Poetry Tuesday by Ms. Hager

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:02:18 UTC

Succour

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:02:21 UTC

succour

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:02:22 UTC

succour

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:02:22 UTC

Tramp

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:02:28 UTC

hied

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:02:52 UTC

a person or thing that sucks, in particular.

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:03:04 UTC

Tramp: a person who travels from place to place on foot in search of work or as a vagrant or beggar.

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:03:27 UTC

assistance and support in times of hardship and distress.

clagarde4 — 2018-12-04 20:03:29 UTC

hied: go quickly.

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:03:31 UTC

*me*

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:03:42 UTC

Aliens

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:04:47 UTC

labouring

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:04:59 UTC

prostitution

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:05:46 UTC

A man is looking around his surroundings, like he sees Belgrave Square, a babe, a girl, and a tramp

clagarde4 — 2018-12-04 20:05:57 UTC

I believe that the woman in the poem is trying to get money to to raise her kid

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:06:04 UTC

a girl begging for money

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:06:05 UTC

"across, and begg'd and came back satisfied" "a tramp i saw, ill, moody, and tongue-tied"

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:06:11 UTC

i agree

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:06:23 UTC

^^^^^^

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:06:37 UTC

so there's this guy, alright, and he sees this poor woman and her two children. a bunch of guys walk down the street and the little girl goes f a s t and begs them for the $$. the guy notices that, like, the woman doesn't beg rich people because they're actually aliens from another planet and definitely not a metaphor for the stark differences between social classes.

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:06:40 UTC

the reader watching someone sorta sell themselves in order to get money for her family, turning away from people who give her cold support.

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:06:53 UTC

i agree

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:07:01 UTC

you could've said money<<<

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:07:24 UTC

Tbh I agree with Peter

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:08:21 UTC

i agree again

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:08:26 UTC

v agree

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:08:32 UTC

i agree with myself

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:08:45 UTC

i agree with you agreeing to yourself

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:09:14 UTC

agree with you agreeing with yourself thats agreeing with you

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:09:26 UTC

not cool

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:09:32 UTC

i agree with you agreeing on me agreeing on him agreeing

kpeck7 — 2018-12-04 20:09:33 UTC

London is dark and gloomy with not a lot of support for the poor

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:09:42 UTC

not the way we see for pictures

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:10:08 UTC

k;l'

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:10:10 UTC

theres a whole lotta homeless people and social status

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:10:12 UTC

sounds like an incredibly upscale industrial wasteland full of very happy homeless people in poverty that see the middle class as so foreign that they're practically aliens

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:10:14 UTC

Broken
Poor
Dark
Lowly

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:10:16 UTC

London seems stratified, split up into different classes. We really see this in the last two stanzas.

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:10:18 UTC

poverty isnt cool either

clagarde4 — 2018-12-04 20:10:22 UTC

that their are the rich, then there are the middle class, then there are the ones that are giving everything to just make it by each painful day

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:10:26 UTC

There's probably tons of poor people who don't really want to look up to the snooty high class people with money for help, and maybe the lower class wish for a time when they could be with money without having to beg from random strangers.

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:10:44 UTC

bad

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:11:22 UTC

happy'nt

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:11:40 UTC

Peter brings up a valid point .w.

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:11:51 UTC

agreed

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:11:56 UTC

yup

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:11:59 UTC

i agree

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:12:14 UTC

thank you Anderson uwu

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:12:23 UTC

uwuwuwu

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:12:25 UTC

i dont have a personality

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:12:37 UTC

a personality has you

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:12:38 UTC

Eliza you are a personality

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:12:44 UTC

humans SUCK

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:12:51 UTC

YESS

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:12:51 UTC

^^^

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:12:53 UTC

heck u rite

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:13:18 UTC

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:13:21 UTC

its our fault for not helping them

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:13:27 UTC

Rich don't help the poor while others struggling or in the middle class help the poor

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:13:27 UTC

They put themselves before others.

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:13:35 UTC

they're selfish

clagarde4 — 2018-12-04 20:13:36 UTC

that Humanity, is cruel to others and mostly look after theirselfs

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:13:41 UTC

we're selfish

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:13:49 UTC

Humanity suffers because of the working class being able to earn money while some people may not be able to work like this woman, she has two children, she can't work. And because of that she's forced to starve and beg in order to get something from the ones who CAN work.

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:14:03 UTC

okay, at the time of the poem, the british empire was at its absolute height and the life of the average person was a million times better than at any point in history

aeverett8 — 2018-12-04 20:14:04 UTC

I agree with Chloe

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:14:05 UTC

I would argue that some humanity does not suck. in the lines. "She will not ask of aliens, but of friends

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:14:16 UTC

listen man

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:14:18 UTC

humanity is a very unfair (unless you a communist apparently) and unequal thing that nobody wins in

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:14:28 UTC

i believe that he's being pessimistic for the sake of being pessimistic and not actually pointing out any new information

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:14:35 UTC

.... Of sharers in a common fate" to rebuttal Eliza's suck

kpeck7 — 2018-12-04 20:14:38 UTC

Humanity is failing in some ways. If you can't acknowledge someone that is struggling but you have the funds to support them then something has gone wrong. The middle class was able to give funds because they knew what it was like to struggle but the high class people were so arrogant that the seemed aliens to the poor

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:14:57 UTC

fair'nt

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:15:24 UTC

I agree with Kaylee

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:15:32 UTC

humans are cool and all but when it boils down we ruined a whole lotta stuff

clagarde4 — 2018-12-04 20:15:35 UTC

i agree

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:15:45 UTC

i agree alsos

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:15:54 UTC

kaylee is CORRECT

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:16:00 UTC

yeah you know what also ruined a lot of stuff? the meteor that killed the dinosaurs

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:16:08 UTC

The last stanza also gets to the point of humanity is not all bad, and that their are better times to be had.

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:16:26 UTC

Because we separate ourselves instead of us being together where we can solve issues better
or maybe have more ideas from different classes of people
but the simple fact we have classes of value, of wealth, of popularity.
It seems like the higher up people are like politiques but with money, they put money before anything else.

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:16:45 UTC

better times like the constant civil war england was involved in up to the formation of great britain

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:16:50 UTC

Thats why humanity sucks

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:16:52 UTC

Maybe it's also because the rich with money don't really care to look down on people without money, because they should get a job while in some cases, they cannot get a job. So then the low class and the labor class have to work together so that maybe everyone can get what they need at least to survive with their families, or just by themselves.

tanderson55 — 2018-12-04 20:16:59 UTC

faith in a positive evolution of humankind?

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:17:10 UTC

it could be both

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:17:32 UTC

Rich people don't share the money they have unless it benefits them in someway.

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:17:35 UTC

for the people that are pessimists and optimists ya dig?

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:17:41 UTC

HECK YOU RIGHT

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:17:45 UTC

diggin

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:17:53 UTC

>gets ignored> =')

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:17:55 UTC

To evidence Mr. Anderson's point, the last stanza

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:17:56 UTC

thx bradley

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:00 UTC

true

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:18:07 UTC

the "laboring men" would refer to the working class, not the middle class

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:11 UTC

I BROUGHT UP GOOD POINTS

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:19 UTC

again

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:18:19 UTC

you did homie

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:18:20 UTC

Humans are naturally selfish and violent creatures. When put in tough times we react for ourselves. When we have to look up at people that flaunt their wealth, don't have a care in the world, and don't even think about those in need we can all react differently. From robbing them, to begging, to trying to be like them.

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:18:23 UTC

same

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:18:24 UTC

throw baby hands

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:18:28 UTC

i saw 'em

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:28 UTC

humanity sucks because we have classes

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:18:38 UTC

cuz we got schools

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:18:41 UTC

aidan no

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:18:41 UTC

that would happen no matter what

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:47 UTC

why do even have classes in society

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:18:48 UTC

Throw baby hands?

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:49 UTC

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:51 UTC

why

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:52 UTC

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:53 UTC

why

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:18:57 UTC

baby hands?

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:19:07 UTC

you was gettin salty

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:19:12 UTC

no matter what, there are going to be people who are more wealthy than others

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:19:27 UTC

if we didn't HAVE classes where people struggled while the small chunk of upper class sat on their money buying fancy stuff they don't need, then maybe less people would struggle day-to-day with just getting food or clothes for their kids.

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:19:29 UTC

unless your a communist

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:19:30 UTC

but why?

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:19:35 UTC

honestly if we didnt have classes it would be "dystopian" but now is scary and not knowing what will happen is honestly scarier.

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:19:36 UTC

Bad for the rest of us

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:19:58 UTC

this is why i propose the replacement of money with handheld nuclear warheads. that way, nobody is richer than the other because everybody has equal opportunity

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:20:09 UTC

*Dystopian flash backs*

kpeck7 — 2018-12-04 20:20:10 UTC

This is making me very sad

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:20:20 UTC

oops

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:20:20 UTC

Big sad

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:20:31 UTC

happy'nt

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:21:13 UTC

lord of the flies?
more like lord of the pies
got 'em

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:21:13 UTC

The world isn't fair no matter what we do

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:21:19 UTC

True

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:21:24 UTC

Chloe, the class system will always be there no matter what. You can't stop people from becoming successful, and you can't stop people from being less successful. There will also be leaders and followers

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:21:25 UTC

More like lord of everyone dies

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:21:35 UTC

*****DYSTOPIAN FLASH BACKS*****

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:21:40 UTC

oooooooof

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:21:48 UTC

mega oof

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:21:52 UTC

got em

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:21:57 UTC

yep

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:22:03 UTC

dystopia as a genre: repeating that humanity is terrible but with different levels of death rays every book

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:11 UTC

true

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:22:18 UTC

i like it

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:22:18 UTC

i want to believe something will change but i dont think it will. no matter what happens humans will go back to their nature :(

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:25 UTC

but think about it

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:22:27 UTC

yeah

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:27 UTC

life

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:22:29 UTC

lord of the flies makes me sOB

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:22:31 UTC

yeppers

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:42 UTC

the class system is dystopian

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:22:51 UTC

Agreed

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:55 UTC

Eliza

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:22:59 UTC

or liz

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:23:10 UTC

society is actually a just one big dystopia and thomas moore was right

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:23:18 UTC

Yup

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:23:20 UTC

wait no i've got that backwards

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:23:21 UTC

meh

cbouchard1 — 2018-12-04 20:23:42 UTC

We all may be who we are but in times of panic we all lower ourselves to our greedy ways of wanting everything we can take just for ourselves.

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:23:45 UTC

#banpiggyfromdying

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:23:53 UTC

well think about it
authors over exaggerate small dystopian things in REAL life then make a book on it

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:24:00 UTC

bjorgensen4 — 2018-12-04 20:24:10 UTC

and then goverment gets made at them

ewirz — 2018-12-04 20:24:16 UTC

We have already gone away from our nature, see marriage. However saying we can't get better because it is nature is a cop out to not try.

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:24:24 UTC

made?

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:24:32 UTC

brave new world, written in the 30's: maaaan, society like suuuuuuuuuucks maaaaaaaaan

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:24:40 UTC

Yes they do, but that doesn't mean that what they say is whats happening @Aidan

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:24:44 UTC

why is that me now

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:24:51 UTC

1984, written in the 40's: maaaaaaaaaaaaaan

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:25:01 UTC

yep

eburns17 — 2018-12-04 20:25:04 UTC

stop @ing me

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:25:12 UTC

no thats why i said its OVER exaggerated

pjordan12 — 2018-12-04 20:25:12 UTC

the giver, written in 1993: maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAN

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:13 UTC

wait what

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:16 UTC

snap

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:17 UTC

snap

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:25:22 UTC

*snap*

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:23 UTC

napping soundfs

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:25:27 UTC

*snaps*

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:25:28 UTC

SNAP

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:25:31 UTC

CRACKLE

chayes25 — 2018-12-04 20:25:32 UTC

yeps

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:25:34 UTC

POP

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:36 UTC

SNAPPING SOUNDS

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:25:43 UTC

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:25:48 UTC

BUHLER

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:25:48 UTC

*napping sounds*

abuhler1 — 2018-12-04 20:26:02 UTC

*big snapsounds

bpierce8 — 2018-12-04 20:26:12 UTC

THE BIGGEST

gciesla — 2018-12-04 20:26:30 UTC

goodbye everyone!!!!!

gciesla — 2018-12-06 18:51:46 UTC