https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj Analysis pg. 53-59 en-us 2019-03-12 02:28:36 UTC 2026-02-07 20:33:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340367894 He brought up the Romans to foreshadow  the death and chaos. The missionaries came over and thought they could help the Nigerians with expanding their culture, but they actually were doing just as much harm as the Romans did. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:31:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340367894 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340368872 The Thames personification is exemplified when the narrator says, "What greatness had not floated on the ebb of that river into the mystery of an unknown earth!" (Conrad 55). The narrator relates the river to all the great people who have sailed the river.]]> 2019-03-12 12:33:54 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340368872 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340369400 Conrad is portraying that not only is the main instance, or inside story a very important aspect, but the instances happening around the main story is important as well. Both have a direct impact on what happens around itself. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:35:02 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340369400 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340369814 Marlow does not agree with the narrator's personification of the Thames. While the narrator describes it as the start of many great and noble expeditions, Marlow notes that the Thames, "has been one of the darkest places of the earth." (Conrad 55).]]> 2019-03-12 12:35:51 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340369814 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370154 "In the offing the sea and the sky were welded together without a joint, and in the luminous space..."(Conrad 53).
"Spread out in the tranquil dignity of a waterway leading to the uttermost ends of the earth"(Conrad 54). The author describes the river as a tranquil place for them to be, even when they may be headed to a place of chaos]]> 2019-03-12 12:36:32 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370154 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370388 "The yarns of semen have a direct simplicity,  the whole meaning of which lies within the shell of a cracked nut" (Conrad, page 56).]]> 2019-03-12 12:37:03 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370388 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370517 The Thames can be described as a great king or queen from that time era. The river is extremely powerful and usually rules and leads for a long time, just like the river. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:37:19 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370517 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370737 "But Marlow was not typical (if his propensity to spin yarns be excepted), and to him the meaning of an episode was not inside like a kernel but outside, enveloping the tale which brought it out only as a glow brings out a haze." (Conrad, 56]]> 2019-03-12 12:37:44 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370737 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370783 He believed Colonization was bad when you looked it.]]> 2019-03-12 12:37:50 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340370783 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340371547 On page 59, he states "What saves us is efficiency - the devotion to efficiency" ]]> 2019-03-12 12:39:16 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340371547 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340373766 You have to be efficient in war and lifestyle]]> 2019-03-12 12:43:31 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340373766 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340373854 Marlow and the narrator both agree that the river Thames has symbolism, but they have differing ideas on what it stands for. The narrator thought that the river stood for prosperity and greatness, because of the people who have sailed it and what has become of their travel. Marlow believes that the river shows darkness and evil, because of the Roman voyage. Rivers are constructed of water, and water usually symbolizes purity and a new beginning, while Marlow believed that, "Flames glided in the river," (Conrad 58) This quote shows that Marlow sees the bad in the river, and the destruction that has come from it.]]> 2019-03-12 12:43:42 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340373854 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374119 He brought up the Romans because they weren't afraid to admit who they were and exactly what their plan was, while the British hide behind the ploy that they are helping the natives.]]> 2019-03-12 12:44:14 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374119 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374334 It's a metaphor for every aspect of the story being important. With nuts, most people disregard the shell and toss it while only focusing on the edible part of it. Conrad wants us to focus equally on the abstract portions of the text just as much as we focus on the main plot line. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:44:37 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374334 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374457 "It had borne all the ships whose names are like jewels flashing in the night of time" (Conrad 55).
"It had known and served all the men of whom the nation is proud, from Sir Francis Drake to Sir John Franklin, knights all, titled and untitled, the great knights errant of the sea" (Conrad 55).]]> 2019-03-12 12:44:54 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374457 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374906 Because Conrad is describing the Thames as this tranquil place, the reader then feels at peace and calm.

]]> 2019-03-12 12:45:51 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340374906 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340376298 "The traffic of the great city went on in the deepening night upon the sleepless river" (Conrad 58). Conrad shows how the river is always in use and being used for trips and trade non stop, therefor it never sleeps (Sleepless). Marlows description/ pov]]> 2019-03-12 12:48:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340376298 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340376511 The Thames river would most likely be an old man/woman, who has experience in many different aspects of life, and is very wise. I also see them having some place of power and being a very strong leader who rules for a long period of time (going along with the idea that the river has been here for a very long time)]]> 2019-03-12 12:49:06 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340376511 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340377406 Marlow is also trying to explain the violence associated with colonization, "Imagine him here-the very end of the world, a sea the colour of lead, a sky the colour of smoke, a kind ship about as rigid as a cencertina." (Conrad, 57)]]> 2019-03-12 12:50:53 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340377406 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340378798 The Thames would definitely be an old man/woman who has all the wisdom and stories of the past. Almost like the village elder.

]]> 2019-03-12 12:53:39 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340378798 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340378915 The cracked nut metaphor is not only a reference to the story that Marlow is telling about his time as a fresh-water sailor, but the story of the four seamen on the boat itself. This relation to Marlow is him seeing life as more than being just a seamen and seeing other meanings to life, unlike the three other seamen on the sailboat.]]> 2019-03-12 12:53:53 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340378915 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340379563 "It was sombre enough too--and pitiful-- not extraordinary in any way-- not very clear either" (Conrad 59). Although he sees the river differently than the narrator and is not as impressed by it as the narrator, he does also state that "it seemed somehow to throw a kind of light on everything about me--and into my thoughts" (Conrad 59).]]> 2019-03-12 12:55:10 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340379563 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340379856 Marlow brings the Romans up to draw comparisons the collapse of the Roman Empire and the conquest of European Imperialism. Marlow notes that while the invasion of the British Isles is portrayed to be glorious and a righteous cause, he reminds the narrator that thousands of people died; most of them either innocent civilians or soldiers. It seems like Marlow sees through the empty promise of European Imperialism and knows that it isn't an altruistic, benevolent force, and that it will bring death and destruction to Africa. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:55:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340379856 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380318 Marlow is a bit worried that the British Empire is going to have the same fate as the Roman Empire. The Romans fell because they were too spread thin and he doesn't want the same thing to repeat.]]> 2019-03-12 12:56:44 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380318 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380885 The mood represents comfort and unity "welded together", the whole setting shows a place that is connected . . . describes it as very open and luminous, which could also create a mood of relaxation. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:57:56 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380885 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380919 The Romans gaining their power was "just an accident arising from the weakness of other. They grabbed what they could get for the sake of what was to be got." (Conrad, 58). The Romans got their power only by chance, and by not creating a strong enough administration to back it up, caused the empire to implode. ]]> 2019-03-12 12:58:00 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340380919 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340381278 "The traffic of the great city went on in the deepening night upon the sleepless river" (Conrad 58). Here Conrad gives the river a negative connotation using the words sleepless, deepening, and night. While the other narrator described it as calm, tranquil, etc.]]> 2019-03-12 12:58:36 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340381278 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382292 Marlow would mention the Romans because he is reminding everyone of what happened nineteen hundred years earlier. The Romans went to Africa, and caused destruction to the land and it's people. Now the Europeans are going to Africa, and may unwillingly and unknowingly destroy the land and it's people. This connects to "Things Fall Apart" because in the end we can see that the Europeans destroy the land and the people's culture, without knowing it.]]> 2019-03-12 13:00:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382292 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382703 Marlow worries that like the Roman Empire, that the British will be too ambitious and spread themselves out too thin and result in the British Empire's collapse.]]> 2019-03-12 13:01:28 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382703 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382801 Marlow believes colonization spreads darkness when he says, "but darkness was here yesterday"(Page 56). In Marlow's perspective, he sees colonization as a way to spread darkness. He believes that wherever people go, darkness goes with them. ]]> 2019-03-12 13:01:41 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340382801 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340383076 He describes the setting as a very peaceful, quiet place. This helps make a distinction between the story that Marlow will tell and the story that Marlow is a part o]]> 2019-03-12 13:02:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340383076 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340383360 The cracked nut can resemble the frame story and the two narrations with in it. In the novel there's outer frame of the unknown sailor, which can relate to the outer shell, with a vague point of view, while inside Marlows story goes really deep into ideas which resembles the actual nut itself.]]> 2019-03-12 13:02:44 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340383360 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340384091 The describing of Thames foreshadows and symbolizes the colonization of the British. The sunset and river was peaceful until the " luminous gloom" chased away the peace of the sunset. (Conrad, 53)]]> 2019-03-12 13:03:56 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340384091 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340832670 The Romans only gained an advantage because of their immense power that they had at the time. They became a huge empire and a powerful one too, which allowed them to easily conquer other small countries. Marlow supports this by saying that, "your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others" (Conrad 58). ]]> 2019-03-13 12:42:14 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340832670 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340833090 basically both marlow and the narrator believe that the Thames is symbolized, but they believe it stands for different things. from the evidence above ^, Marlow believes the river shows evil and dark circumstances, an effect of the Romans, while the narrator describes it as something greater and calm. ]]> 2019-03-13 12:43:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340833090 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834431 The description of the Thames creates a peaceful mood which creates a relaxing environment within the setting. ]]> 2019-03-13 12:45:38 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834431 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834568 The metaphor resembles Marlow and the other sailors, because if you continue to press a sailor for the story they will open up to you and share the deeper meaning of the story.]]> 2019-03-13 12:45:57 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834568 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834749 the metaphor can resemble an overall meaning of requiring to look on the inside of things, not just judging from the outside. this metaphor goes for marlow because looking at seamen, people think they are just seaman with no life, but according to marlow that is completely the opposite. he believes there is life outside of the boat life, and he looks onto the world from an "inside the nut" point of view. ]]> 2019-03-13 12:46:18 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340834749 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340835851 "The old river in its broad reached rested unruffled at the decline of the day, after ages of good service done to the race of that peopled its banks," (Conrad, 54) 
The Thames is personified by the river helping the people instead of the people making use of the river.]]> 2019-03-13 12:48:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340835851 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836500 Marlow brings up the colonization and shares how it spread a lot of darkness and destruction. Marlow could have brought it up because the first colonization was an easier mission than the one they are trying to do now. Also Marlow wants to make sure that they do not go into colonization with the intention of darkness and destruction]]> 2019-03-13 12:49:31 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836500 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836676 The mood about the Thames and setting of the sun are both established as a calm before the storm mood. The storm isn't necessarily a bad thing coming, but it is a deeper story that is going to be told by Marlow. The narrator illustrates the calmness of the seamen as they "felt meditative, and fit for nothing but placid staring" (Conrad 54).]]> 2019-03-13 12:49:55 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836676 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836918 If the Thames were a person, I would picture them as middle aged due to it's wisdom and experience.]]> 2019-03-13 12:50:21 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340836918 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340837444 Marlow told a yarn about the Romans and their horrible fate of colonization to show how imperialism and colonization brings darkness and violence. Although Marlow mentioned that they were "men enough to face the darkness" (57). ]]> 2019-03-13 12:51:28 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340837444 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340839539 Both the narrator and Marlow agree the Thames river is a symbolization of a quality of life. They agree that the Thames is an important tool of trade that is used for transportation and a home for the seamen. The narrator describes the river as a life giving and peaceful. But Marlow describes the river as full of darkness and has the gloom of life.]]> 2019-03-13 12:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340839539 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340839594 A man's mind and efficiency are the two things that can help people avoid the fate of the Roman's.]]> 2019-03-13 12:55:40 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340839594 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340840289 According to Marlow, the absence of racism and blind violence and ignorance are what can save a man from the Roman's fate. He explains that our actions of trying to take the earth away from "those who have a different compexioon or slightly flatter nose than ourselves" (Conrad 57) and instead focused on the idea of helping others and make sure to keep it a pure and unselfish thought and action, then mankind can save itself. 

]]> 2019-03-13 12:57:02 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340840289 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340841606 Marlow speaks of the Romans as brutish murderers and conquerers, only to compare them to the British. “They grabbed what they could get for the sake of what was to be got. It was just robbery with violence, aggravated murder on a great scale, and men going at it blind”(Heart of Darkness, 7). The first sentence is to compare with the Scramble for Africa, where European powers rushed to take all parts of Africa. History repeats itself, and the second sentence is to foreshadow the bloodshed and death and bloodshed that will be caused by the Europeans, just as the romans brought to England and Wales in the Roman conquests. They will then eventually be kicked out by the natives, just like what happened to the Romans. “The conquest of the earth, which mostly means the taking it away from those who have a different complexion or slightly flatter noses than ourselves, is not a pretty thing when you look into it too much” (Heart of Darkness, 7). This is a reference to the racism and oppression that occurs in the conquest of Africa due to colonialism.]]> 2019-03-13 12:59:15 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340841606 https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340846102 “They grabbed what they could get for the sake of what was to be got. It was just robbery with violence, aggravated murder on a great scale, and men going at it blind” (Heart of Darkness, 7). The fate of the Romans in Britian ended with them being kicked out by the native peoples. History is doomed to repeat itself, and the quote is comparing the Scramble for Africa and European colonialism to the Roman conquests, both grabbing what they could because they could, murder and violent theft of people and land, and men going in blind to accomplish this. Because history will repeat itself, the colonialists will also be kicked out of Africa by the natives, just like the Romans were. Their empire will fall, just as the Roman Empire did all those years ago.]]> 2019-03-13 13:07:13 UTC https://padlet.com/eaceret/zuhfq77jomuj/wish/340846102