https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4 compare/contrast principles of learning from different frameworks en-us 2016-07-06 20:56:48 UTC 2025-10-30 05:45:21 UTC hello@padlet.com cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116219532 The first big difference I noticed was the fact that Graham brought up the heart.  The students don't care what you know till they know you care.  (OK cliche I know)  This is so true.  The other resource gives not mention of this.

]]> 2016-07-11 18:19:41 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116219532 cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116219660 Both of the sources talk about prior knowledge playing a role in our learning.  Graham points out that our past experiences lead to our beliefs. This will influence what information we decide to accept or reject.]]> 2016-07-11 18:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116219660 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116280881 Both Graham and the educational researchers state that teachers can make the classroom environment (physical space, climate, etc.) conducive to learning.]]> 2016-07-12 15:30:33 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116280881 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116305750 I am following your lead on this, Clint.  The big difference between the two involves the concept of heart.  This extends into what is truth.  The educational researchers would go with truth being what is learned, while Graham points to the Holy Spirit as the only way to make a heart receptive to real truth]]> 2016-07-12 23:54:39 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116305750 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116313862 I was thinking along the same lines as Clint and Tym. Both sources discussed their environment or nature they live in and how this is so important in helping them make their own choices and being responsible ultimately for their learning.

]]> 2016-07-13 02:01:02 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116313862 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116313970 A difference I see is that Graham speaks of the heart and how this drives everything we do in our learning process. In the other source, motivation (how motivated are the students for reaching their goal), and practice with feedback will help them attain their personal learning goals. I think this are a little different because while knowing what is in our heart and what makes us happy in our life seems to be, according to Graham, motivation enough. This effects our amount of engagement and our behavior. While the other source is dependent on feedback. ]]> 2016-07-13 02:03:07 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116313970 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116321075 Good thoughts so far, everyone. I agree with you and would add one more.  The educational researchers said that students are to learn to monitor and adjust their approaches to learning.  This ties to the biblical view, as stated by Graham, as accepting something as truth, making a heart-level commitment to it, and acting on it.  Acting on newly acquired truth requires a shift in practice just as adjusting a learning approach does.

]]> 2016-07-13 03:57:42 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116321075 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116321633 The heart does seem to be the biggest difference.  While I don't think Graham would disagree that motivation drives what students do to learn, Graham would disagree on where the motivation comes from.  I also think that Graham would go a step further to say that students are internally driven by who they were created to be in the image of God--active and purposeful, creative, thinking, free.

]]> 2016-07-13 04:04:59 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116321633 cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116343022 Trisha,
So would you say two is better than one? Meaning that dealing with the heart and giving feedback would both be beneficial?]]> 2016-07-13 12:52:28 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116343022 cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116343103 Tym and Trisha,
We have all talked about environment influencing the experiences that our students have. How do we design lessons that hit everybody when they don't all have the same experiences? I teach in small town Iowa where everybody is very similar to each other compared to a city for instance. The kids still have different experiences. How can I design things to give everyone the same opportunity?]]> 2016-07-13 12:54:16 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116343103 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116372686 Tym, I see the classroom environment as being both a similarity and a difference. I think that Graham would focus on the spiritual aspect of the classroom first, with the others (intellectual, social, emotional, physical) stemming from that purpose. The researchers seem to miss the spiritual aspect.  Would you agree?]]> 2016-07-14 00:02:01 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116372686 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116372999 Clint, this is a good question. I think a starting point is to give students choices in their learning when possible. Projects are a great way to do this. For instance, I had my third graders do a solar system project using very general guidelines. Each student had to come up with a representation of the solar system to scale. Some students came with paper mache models, osome used balls and string to explain the solar system, others made posters. Each used their experience to find a unique way to meet the learning goal.  ]]> 2016-07-14 00:09:08 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116372999 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116379094 Clint, absolutely two is better. We can work towards what our hearts want and in the meantime isn't it nice to know we are on track with feedback? I think so. :)

]]> 2016-07-14 02:08:02 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116379094 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116379197 Clint-
I don't know if you can create one big lesson that fits to all the students. Instead, that is where I see small group instruction really coming into play and being a positive learning tool in itself. Try to focus your lessons on the majority for whole group but then use small group instruction to really individualize. Again, I teach little ones so I am not sure how much opportunity there is for that in the intermediate grades. ]]> 2016-07-14 02:09:56 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116379197 cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116405040 Julie
Do you think or when do you think students have the cognitive ability to monitor and change their approach to learning? That might be a little loaded since each student is unique. Generally speaking though.]]> 2016-07-14 12:46:40 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116405040 cprofit https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116405182 Julie
Do you find that in third grade students have an easy time making a choice on what to do or is it hard for them? I ask because I think in school we have a tendency to train them to listen follow directions and do what they are told. Maybe not just in school. How many kids do you see getting together to play a sport or something that is not planned by a parent? I think it is down from years ago. Everything is scheduled for kids these days. Sorry struck a nerve, I am done now.]]> 2016-07-14 12:49:06 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116405182 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116421127 Julie, yes I would agree with you that the researchers would miss the spiritual aspect.  I would also say that as a difference, Graham would colour all of the different elements of learning with the light that the learner is an image bearer.  This changes everything about how we see the learner AND the process of learning.]]> 2016-07-14 17:39:07 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116421127 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116422055 Clint, part of the answer to your question about "hitting" all our learners lies in differentiated instruction.  But aside from that, it is one of the elements of PBL that I so appreciate.  It is actually fairly easy to differentiate a project based on individual student needs; some students are capable of taking a given project to a much deeper level.  Great question!]]> 2016-07-14 17:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116422055 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116422312 Julie, I agree with you completely on Graham saying that students are motivated by who they are as image bearers of God.  I also love the concept of 'shalom' as wholeness.  (I know this is from a later chapter, but I think it fits here too)  I think that Graham sees learning in this context of wholeness/togetherness as well.]]> 2016-07-14 17:57:20 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116422312 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116429324 Trisha, I agree that two are better than one, and I think your tie-in to formative and summative assessment is a great example.  And, it goes both ways , as you have suggested; it allows us as teachers to give students feedback and to assess and modify what we are doing.  We all have taught from "the seat of our pants" at one time or another, and those are often the best, most intuitive lessons! ]]> 2016-07-14 20:47:55 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116429324 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116432842 Clint,
I think the answer to your first question really has to do with what the topic is and it depends on the individual student. I completely agree that most kids are way too scheduled today. This seems to be killing off creativity, imagination and even critical thinking skills. How can we teach students to think for themselves if we as adults are making it too easy for them not to think for themselves? ]]> 2016-07-14 23:15:46 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116432842 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116433254 Tym, I agree.  Whether or not we see students as image bearers impacts the whole learning process.  Great connection!]]> 2016-07-14 23:22:52 UTC https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116433254 julie_gross2 https://padlet.com/patkornelis/01T4/wish/116481379 Clint,
Very good question. I do think it depends on the student. I've seen some elementary students do this successfully, where others are not able to explain what approach they are using at all.  Many elementary students know what they enjoy doing, but to be able to self-talk themselves through the learning process requires a much deeper level of thinking.  A lot of it also depends on how well we teach the different learning strategies and whether or not we are allowing students to describe them in their own words or if they are just spitting back what we've told them.

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