https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu Ch. 15-16 en-us 2018-01-25 21:54:44 UTC 2018-08-20 12:53:10 UTC hello@padlet.com mcain4 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/224889280 "...of course it wasn't really just Patrick, it was everyone--all her friends. She didn't want them to see her talking to me. Suddenly I knew Kyle must not figure too prominently in the social order or she never would have asked him to deliver the note" (LaBan 128).

This quote has magnitude because it shows the readers another picture of how Tim views himself. He is self-conscious, but he is also aware of how people view him. He is not trying to be someone he is not. This quote also shows how Tim is trying to get the lay of the land at Irving. when talking about Kyle. It also proves Tim is not immune to judging others, as they often judge him. 

How do you think Vanessa will continue to talk to Tim if she is concerned about her social status? How do you think Tim will react if this continues?]]> 2018-01-25 21:55:30 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/224889280 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225786825 "They were all getting ready to sled. He was scared. There were trees at the bottom, despite  what anyone said, he could see that. Students from the Irving School had been doing it for years, they kept saying. They hadn't lost one yet" (LaBan 135-136)

This quote has magnitude because it shows that something dramatic happened or happens. This was a dream that Duncan had one night and he woke up, not wanting to remember anything about it. This could possibly be foreshadowing what happens with Tim's story that Tim left Duncan. The magnitude of a possible disaster at the sledding hill could influence Irving forever. 

How does this quote tie into Tim and Patrick planning the senior outing? Why would Duncan have a dream like this especially if he was a junior? ]]> 2018-01-29 18:33:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225786825 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225786946 "A tragedy is a play or literary work in which the main character---that would be tragic hero---suffers greatly and is brought to ruin. Usually this suffering and ruin come about because the main character's flaw or weakness and his or her inability to deal with the lot he or she has been given. Patrick smiled the smuggest smile i have ever seen. I wanted to stare him down, but I couldn't. I looked at the ground, not sure why what he had said felt so personal " (Laban 150-151). 

I think that this shows magnitude because it seems like something dramatic will happen later on to the main character which is Tim and that's why he said it felt personal so like if it going to happen.

If something bad ends up happening what do you think will end up happening to Tim?]]> 2018-01-29 18:33:25 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225786946 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787084 "I had been staring at him the whole time, thinking how perfect his hair looked even though he probably hadn't brushed it yet, how perfect his face looked even though he had nothing to do with it----he didn't work hard to make his face look that way, to make the pigment be there in his skin---so why would his life be so much better than mine" (Laban 164)?

This quote shows great importance because it reflects how much Tim envies Patrick. Tim ponders why life has been so unfair to him while Patrick seems to have everything in the world. Tim doesn't understand how Patrick can have it all; Tim wishes he did not have to try so hard to be happy or fit in. 

Do you think that Tim will continue to envy Patrick as the book continues? Why or why not? Are there reasons Patrick would be jealous of Tim? If so, explain what they would be.

]]> 2018-01-29 18:33:36 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787084 gaulcl12020 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787366 "I was pretty sure people had gotten used to me- I rarely encountered one of those shocked expressions as I walked toward someone- but that didn't change anything. Patrick was tall and handsome with perfect skin. Everyone liked him, and people expected to see Vanessa with someone like that. That was the right world order (or should I say chaos?) at the Irving School." (LaBan 157)

This quote has magnitude because it is showing what people expect from the social hierarchy. This is Tim now thinking that he will never be good enough for someone like  Vanessa just because that's what everyone else thinks. He is not confident in himself and this is showing how much he worries about what everyone else is going to say or do about his actions.

What would you think if you were Tim? Would you be reacting the same way or differently? Why?]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:03 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787366 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787373 "At first I was thrilled to find out that Vanessa was in a few of my classes, Including senior English. But after I spent the first 2 classes being completely distracted by her, I started to think it might not have been such good luck and forced myself to focus" (Laban 149). 

I think that this shows character development because in this quote all Tim can think about is Vanessa and this could become chaos because he wont be able to focus in classes and he will start to get behind. 

Do you think that something bad will happen to Tim because he was not focusing in class. Do you think he will get in trouble. ]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:04 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787373 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787468 "I think an outing is a great idea," I said. I had no clue at that moment, of course, what I had set in motion." (LaBan 165). 

This quote has magnitude because it shows how Tim is feeling about the situation. It also has a little bit of foreshadowing for what is going to come about later in the story. He seems worried at what he had just done and how that was going to affect him. It also seems like he wishes he wouldn't have said it, or would've said it differently. 

Do you think what he said is going to affect him in the future? Should he have said something different? What if he would've  refused?]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:12 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787468 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787538 "To be truthful--and I feel I need to be here--something had shifted for me. I had built up every gesture in my mind to mean so much, and I was now sure she had feelings for me. The reason she wasn't more open about it, I told myself, was because she didn't know how to get away from Patrick."
(LaBan 157)

I believe there is magnitude in this passage because it can still be connected to and understood by young adults today. Many people nowadays face heartache and heartbreak for this reason, which is of feeling not enough for that one person. On the other end of this complication, Vanessa seems as though she would like to leave Patrick, but doesn't want to face the harsh reality of judgement that comes with it.

If you were Vanessa, would you leave Tim, even though there's the possibility of being judged and being treated poorly?]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787538 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787563 "I mean, a really great outing. A secret outing. Something that we're all in on, that we plan together."

This quote is important because it's showing Patrick being sort of nice to Tim. The first time they met, Patrick got in Tim's face about him hanging out with Vanessa. Now he's being sort accepting, in a way, towards Tim. 

Do you think Patrick is being nice to Tim for a reason? Do you think he has good intentions? Or do you think that Patrick is only "being nice" to him to just end up biting him in the back in the end? ]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:21 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787563 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787564 " I could feel myself going into a cocoon, concerned that i might throw off the balance of the strange things in the universe I was living in if I opened up to them. I didn't want them to know anything about it." 
(LaBan 155.)
This quote is very important. It shows how Tim is developing. It shows he is keeping to himself a lot. Now he is starting to ignore the people who love him most. You would 
think he would rely heavily on the people who love him the most.
Do you think the Tim will continue to isolate himself? Why]]> 2018-01-29 18:34:22 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225787564 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788303 "I figured that was just how it was going to be. So it totally surprised me that next time I saw Patrick, he was nice to me. But I still didn't trust him. I guess I never did" (LaBan 151). 

This quote reveals some of Patrick's character. Patrick isn't always the nice guy because he tries to keep up his social status. This quote also shows foreshadowing because Tim said he never trusted Patrick.
 
What event or thing do think is being foreshadowed here?]]> 2018-01-29 18:35:23 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788303 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788416 "I mean, can I help you in some way" (Laban 139). 

This quote has a big meaning because it shows that Duncan is a caring person. It also shows that he corrected himself when he is mean to someone it just shows that he is a caring person and will help others when needed. This shows that Duncan wants people to see him as someone who is nice and that they would want to be around. This could come into play latter in the book when Duncan is being kind and it made a big impact.

Is there a reason why Duncan rephrased what he said to daisy before he said " I mean, can I help you in some way" (Laban 139). 


]]> 2018-01-29 18:35:33 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788416 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788752 "So it totally surprised me that the next time I saw Patrick, he was nice to me. But I still didn't trust him. I guess I never did" (LaBan 151). 

This quote is important because at first Patrick was rude to Tim. In the bathroom, Patrick was in Tim's face and calling him weird and telling him to leave Vanessa alone. Then all of a sudden Patrick is nice to Tim, inviting Tim to hang out with him and his friends so that Tim will feel as if he fits in. This shows Patrick's character development, he was rude to Tim, at first, but he's slowly become nicer to him. 

Do you think Patrick is genuinely being nice to Tim? Or do you think Patrick is just being nice for now and pretending to be Tim's friend? Why or why not?]]> 2018-01-29 18:36:02 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225788752 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225789478 "Well, apparently she took too many of her mother's Xanax that she stole from her medicine cabinet at home. She was so stressed about school starting that she tool like half a dozen of them or something."

This quote has a lot of magnitude because not only could this girl have died, but it also shows us that Daisy really cares about her friends. It is important that we know this because this can give us an idea on how Daisy may react to certain events.

How will this event cause Daisy to react in the future? Will something like this end up happening to her? Will Duncan get hurt?]]> 2018-01-29 18:37:10 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225789478 flynngr2020 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225789695 "Is everyone helping?" I asked, trying  to get a better sense of what was going on."No," he said . "I think we can do it, just us."
(Laban 168)

I think this quote has magnitude  in the book because Patrick is trying to become friends with Tim. This could be a good or bad thing. it could be good because Tim is making new friends. But it could also be bad because mabey Patrick is just using Tim to get closer with Vanessa.

Do you think Patrick is just being friendly? or why do you think Patrick is trying to get so close to Tim?]]> 2018-01-29 18:37:29 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225789695 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225790259 "I figured that was just how it was going to be.  So it totally surprised me that the next time I saw Patrick, he was nice to me.  But I still didn't trust him. I guess  I never did" (Laban 151)

This has magnitude to the story cause it shows Tim's develop meant to not trust this guy at all, even when Patrick was nice to him.  It also shows a little bit of foreshadowing as something totally surprised Tim when he next encountered Patrick.

How do you think this relationship between Tim and Patrick will affect later events in the story? do you think Patrick felt this way toward Tim?]]> 2018-01-29 18:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225790259 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225790562 "I waited for her to come to me. I told myself that a few seconds a day were enough for me. And surely she would want to talk to me again at some point. But weeks went by and she didn't. You might want to ask yourself -- was this the order or the chaos?" (LaBan 156).

This quote really makes me think. Even though it may seem normal for Vanessa to be ignoring Tim it could also be chaos. I think that this quote is important because it shows that Tim will wait for Vanessa even if she doesn't talk to him for weeks. Also it shows how different Vanessa can be around other people, and that she might be embarassed to be seen with Tim.

Do you think Vanessa ignoring Tim is order or chaos and why? Do you think Vanessa will continue to ignore Tim? ]]> 2018-01-29 18:38:50 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225790562 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225791415 "Okay, he told himself, maybe it could be that simple. He literally counted to three in his head and then he took her soft face in his hands and leaned into kiss her."
(LaBan 144)
This gives the story magnitude by giving it a bigger perspective and longer story. Its adding a relationship which many things can happen. This also shows character by showing that he is a risk taker and is willing to either make it or totally lose everything involving that person  

Do you think that he would've tried again somewhere else if something got in the way of this moment? Why or why not?]]> 2018-01-29 18:40:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225791415 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225791922 "As we walked out the door, Patrick bumped me. His head was turned so it seemed like he didn't realize I was there, and then he stick his elbow out and got me in the side. I figured that's just how it was going to be. So it totally that the next time I saw Patrick, he was nice to me." (LaBan 151) 

This quote shows that Patrick might be 2 different people. At one time, he can be mean to Tim and another time he can be the sweet Patrick that Vanessa sees. Maybe he feels he needs to be different because Vanessa is friends with Tim but Patrick thinks Tim's weird and feels the need to bully him. So he can bully him when she's not around and when she is he needs to play nice. 

Do you think Patrick and Tim will become friend? If not, Do you think Tim will fight back to his bullying? ]]> 2018-01-29 18:41:00 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225791922 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225792248 Patrick smirked. "Well you can vote that way that is completely within your rights but no, there is always some wiggle room." (LaBan 223).

This quote shows that Patrick may not be that good of a guy people might think and i'm pretty sure Tim knows this, this will be important later on I think.

What do you think will happen in the future will Patrick change his attitude towards Tim? Will something big happen later on?]]> 2018-01-29 18:41:35 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225792248 https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225799244 2018-01-29 18:54:02 UTC https://padlet.com/mcain4/z7lbz68mjiuu/wish/225799244