https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa Does the war novel reinforce or challenge traditional gender stereotypes? en-us 2018-01-10 17:32:00 UTC 2025-09-28 15:04:12 UTC hello@padlet.com 10014535 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345165 Tim O'Brien shows a difference in his war story compared to traditional war stories because of the use of masculinity and feminism in the story. The two articles written by Susan Farrell and Pamela Smiley show different types of roles but they are both correct. Susan Farrell shows how men didn't believe women could understand anything about the war simply because they haven't experienced it. Pamela Smiley wrote in her article about the role that the female characters play in the novel.]]> 2018-01-10 19:14:35 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345165 10019440 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345601 Tim O'Brien uses The Things They Carried as a way to interpret the differences between the perspectives of men and women in the Vietnam War. In the novel women are expected to be young and innocent, but they can go through the same experiences like men do in war times.]]> 2018-01-10 19:15:30 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345601 10026777 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345921 Tim O'Brien uses The Things They Carried to flip society's views of gender roles. He uses experiences to negate typical gender stereotypes. His characters invite readers to empathize with human struggle. It is cemented by both Ferrell and Smiley that O'Brien's work yields to everyone and is not as narrowly gender specific as it is perceived to many readers.]]> 2018-01-10 19:16:03 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220345921 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220348175 O'Brien's novel The Things They Carried diverges from the norm of gender stereotypes on either sides of the spectrum that is based upon sex; From the losses of innocence, the evolution of all characters, and a psychological standpoint, the novel provides a refreshingly realistic twist on most war stories.]]> 2018-01-10 19:20:24 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220348175 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220349562 In "The Things They Carried"Tim O'Brien uses the chapters of "Sweetheart of the Song Tra Bond" and "The Lives of the Dead" to illustrate the opposition of traditional men and women stereotypes. These chapters allow the reader to view the the ways that women can be effected by situations that are traditionally exposed only to men and how women can cause boys to become more manly over a sergeant molding the boys into men by using war.]]> 2018-01-10 19:23:12 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220349562 10026299 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220350416 Tim O'Brien's novel "The Things They Carried" promotes the human experience in connection with war and does not attempt to exclude or eliminate women in the overall experience of war. Instead his novel helps all understand the truths of war and better connect to the feelings and conflicts associating, therefore negating traditional gender stereotypes.]]> 2018-01-10 19:25:01 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220350416 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220353944 The novel "The Things They Carried" challenges the traditional war time novel that excludes female readers and portrays female characters as weak and innocent by including female characters that understand war and can connect with it, and by making male characters that go against the traditional ideal male character that is macho, and born to be a soldier and to kill. ]]> 2018-01-10 19:31:51 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220353944 10020402 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220354173 Tim O'Brien's "The Things They Carried" is a war novel that focuses mainly on the experience and trails from men. Susan Farrell and Pamela Smiley argue diverse arguments about the role of a female character in the book. O'Brien uses the "Sweetheart of the Song Tra Bong" and Linda to display how women can be a symbol of feminism. The novel reinforces traditional gender roles for women. ]]> 2018-01-10 19:32:15 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220354173 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220354620 Gender roles are often portrayed and reinforced in war novels. These traditional gender roles illustrates how war literature portrays women as weak and innocent and incapable of experiencing and understanding the effects of war. In Things They Carried, Tim O'Brien shows that women can participate, in understanding, and be affected by war. Traditional gender roles challenge the idea of women in war.]]> 2018-01-10 19:33:07 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220354620 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220355985 Throughout "Sweetheart of the Song Tra Bong" in "The Things They Carried", Tim O'Brien shows the  traditional  men and women stereotypes. Both of these chapters show how men can naturally be exposed to certain situations and how women can also cause men to become more masculine in a way.]]> 2018-01-10 19:35:20 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220355985 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220357648 Tim O'Brien's novel "The Things They Carried" focuses mainly on men's experiences in war, seemingly excluding women.  Through the loss of innocence in female characters and their experiences , along with arguments made by  Susan Farrell and Pamela Smiley, it can be seen that the novel challenges  gender stereotypes.

]]> 2018-01-10 19:37:58 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220357648 10036791 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220359645 Tim O'Briens "The Things They Carried does offer knowledge of the war and does not remove women from the war. He uses different roles and perspectives of women in the war. ]]> 2018-01-10 19:41:18 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220359645 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220360478 The novel "The Things They Carried" tends to show the dominance of masculinity in America during the Vietnam War and how it is shown through the characters in the book which agrees with the article written by Susan Farrell]]> 2018-01-10 19:42:47 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220360478 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220361272 Tim O'Brien's The Things they Carried is different from traditional war novels because of the way women are aligned with men in the traditional war portrayal]]> 2018-01-10 19:44:38 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220361272 00034136 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220362818 Tim O'rien connects women to war by using Mary Ann as a docal point and the effects of war on both genders.]]> 2018-01-10 19:47:40 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220362818 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220365584 Tim O'Brien changes the perspective of traditional war literature in the stories Sweet heart the Song Tra bong and Love.]]> 2018-01-10 19:52:31 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220365584 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220373532 In Tim O'Brien's The Things They Carried, the women misrepresented innately break gender stereotypes specifically through foils Linda and Martha, as well as Mary Ann.]]> 2018-01-10 20:07:55 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220373532 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220438102 Tim O'Brien challenges typical gender roles in "The Things They Carried" through his unique portrayal of men's masculinity blending with femininity and of women's involuntary lack of experience leading to a lack of understanding.]]> 2018-01-11 02:19:58 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220438102 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220731141 2018-01-11 18:39:04 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220731141 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220754228 Susan talks about the masculine story and how women can understand the war even though they are not necessarily in it.]]> 2018-01-11 19:22:07 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220754228 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220765242 Tim O'brien challenges gender stereotypes throughout the book. He shows the feeling side of men with "On the Rainy River" and women's stereotypes with "Sweetheart of the Song Trabong". He shows that not everyone adheres to the sterotypes by displaying different sides of the characters.]]> 2018-01-11 19:43:23 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/220765242 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/221695454 The Things They Carried heavily challenges traditional gender stereotypes present at the time. O'Brien accomplishes this through several means of representation.]]> 2018-01-16 13:48:59 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/221695454 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/298491916 2018-10-30 13:39:04 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/298491916 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/330630205 2019-02-13 01:21:42 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/330630205 https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/356191389 2019-05-02 13:32:23 UTC https://padlet.com/nglenn/ys01lzgi2rwa/wish/356191389