EDPPSR Returning Teachers Day 3 by Libby Turner https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6 Reflections on Day 3, anonymous unless you choose to add your name :-) en-us 2021-07-06 15:43:46 UTC 2025-11-24 16:32:50 UTC hello@padlet.com marshallbartlett1 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414516 That I share a lot of the same challenges around time and logistics in implementing the EDPPSR with my colleagues here!]]> 2021-07-15 16:55:46 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414516 That others had similar thoughts about rescoring as I did. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414560 2021-07-15 16:55:49 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414560 czito3 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414578 the portfolios were supposed to be submitted as a group of students and not individually]]> 2021-07-15 16:55:50 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414578 We all have a lot of questions that need solving and they vary a great deal between different schools. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414609 2021-07-15 16:55:53 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414609 I am generally consistent with others in my scoring. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414632 2021-07-15 16:55:54 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414632 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414653 That others have room to improve with their grading as well. And that makes me feel like I can grow with my community. ]]> 2021-07-15 16:55:56 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414653 To score the rubric based on what is documented, not what I observe that the group has done. wrsilkman https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414720 2021-07-15 16:55:59 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414720 david_eisenberg https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414721 that with practice we will become better at separating what we know about the student work with what the students actually put in their portfolios. ]]> 2021-07-15 16:55:59 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414721 Spend a lot more time on the rubric and even though I may not actually introduce the rubric until Unit 2, I may look through each activity and try to find tie ins to the rubric and touch on vocabulary so the students can become familiar with terms https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414771 2021-07-15 16:56:03 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414771 jmuscarella https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414796 better utilize the EDPPSR as a formative tool.]]> 2021-07-15 16:56:05 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414796 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414800 That I am not alone in my scoring higher than experts on my students' portfolios. I also have learned much more about what should be going into my students' portfolios. 

I have gained some resources!]]> 2021-07-15 16:56:05 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414800 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414842 A new technique to help students provide feedback to each other using their journals and the EDPPSR

]]> 2021-07-15 16:56:08 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414842 I need to spend more time going thru the elements with my students https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414846 2021-07-15 16:56:08 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414846 I am not alone in some of my struggles https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414859 2021-07-15 16:56:09 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414859 I wonder if scoring the carbonation will be faster since other teachers are not emotionally connected to it. katherineshirey https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414969 2021-07-15 16:56:17 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414969 It took me 40 minutes to score a portfolio, how do people manage when they have dozens of them? https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414970 2021-07-15 16:56:17 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651414970 Add time for student reflection. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415037 2021-07-15 16:56:21 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415037 marshallbartlett1 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415039 What all of the tools for working with the portfolios/EDPPSR will look like (myDesign, etc.)]]> 2021-07-15 16:56:21 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415039 If one of the early elements is poorly done, such as the problem statement, how do I take that into account when the later elements refer back to it (the design requirements, for example). wrsilkman https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415108 2021-07-15 16:56:26 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415108 I tended to be a little more generous than I should have been https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415162 2021-07-15 16:56:30 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415162 Working in the triad groups helped me to develop a better strategy for going thru the elements https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415202 2021-07-15 16:56:33 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415202 About other strategies. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415303 2021-07-15 16:56:41 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415303 how to formatively assess different things in a timely manner https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415365 2021-07-15 16:56:44 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415365 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415422 How to time manage the logistics of grading portfolios to provide more formative feedback]]> 2021-07-15 16:56:49 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415422 We do need some feedback about the expert scorers results. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415464 2021-07-15 16:56:53 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415464 I need to break the EDPPSR down into smaller chunks for next year https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415468 2021-07-15 16:56:53 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415468 Review and reprocess https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415512 2021-07-15 16:56:56 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415512 marshallbartlett1 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415567 There is great value in comparing scores with others. At the same time, the logistics of using time to do that valuable work are not clear cut at the moment (but we will figure it out!).]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:00 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415567 Exemplars https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415591 We need exemplars to help us see what our students should be aiming for! Even if the examples aren't perfect, if they are scored the students and I will see what needs to be done.]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:02 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415591 Implementing the rubric a lot earlier to my students https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415595 2021-07-15 16:57:02 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415595 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415678 I still have to be more decisive in my grading method. But there have been some great suggestions that I started trying with my regrade that helped a lot so far.]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:08 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415678 I am pleasantly surprised with the scores from the expert brendanmccarthy5 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415704 2021-07-15 16:57:09 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415704 Useful, but I need to determine how to use these scores in my gradebook. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415746 2021-07-15 16:57:11 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415746 Stay on track https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415758 2021-07-15 16:57:13 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415758 To give class time for students to document their progress at the end of class work sessions https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415772 2021-07-15 16:57:14 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415772 david_eisenberg https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415884 How to further define some of the higher scores (e.g., when does a 2 become a 3 or a 3 a 4)]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:21 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415884 I was grading too high based on my in classroom bias. wrsilkman https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415898 2021-07-15 16:57:22 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415898 This would also be a great way to handle stakeholder interviews. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415954 2021-07-15 16:57:26 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651415954 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416092 I wonder if the experts saw that element K was labeled twice and when they gave zeroes to element L]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:35 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416092 Rescoring was a good exercise. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416115 2021-07-15 16:57:38 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416115 Provide dedicated time to allow for iteration of prior elements of the rubric. wrsilkman https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416138 2021-07-15 16:57:39 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416138 be iterative. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416154 2021-07-15 16:57:40 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416154 Actually get most of the curriculum taught. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416270 2021-07-15 16:57:47 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416270 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416284 It was eye opening because I saw my students' work in a new light. I started to lower my scores closer to the expert scores and understand the rubric more.

I also learned that I had similar questions as my group members about the EDPPSR and scoring with it.]]> 2021-07-15 16:57:48 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416284 How to better motivate students to complete the rubric https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416325 2021-07-15 16:57:51 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416325 marshallbartlett1 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416451 Find ways to use external reviewers to give students feedback on the EDPPSR (other teachers at my institution, other e4usa faculty members, University liaison, etc.)]]> 2021-07-15 16:58:00 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416451 do more https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416596 2021-07-15 16:58:10 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416596 I need to get my students to revise their portfolios more frequently brendanmccarthy5 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416783 2021-07-15 16:58:18 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416783 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416823 Use the cohorts to help provide feedback to students as an outside source

]]> 2021-07-15 16:58:21 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416823 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416905 The rescoring helped me so much. I feel like that’s a PD all of its own.

]]> 2021-07-15 16:58:25 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651416905 I am getting better at scoring portfolios david_eisenberg https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417065 2021-07-15 16:58:37 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417065 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417109 Get more of the curriculum completed and get complete portfolios. Go over the EDPPSR in a more thorough manner with more practice and scoring.]]> 2021-07-15 16:58:40 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417109 Have more time at end of year to reflect the scorings https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417126 2021-07-15 16:58:42 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417126 imbed class time to revise portfolios brendanmccarthy5 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417138 2021-07-15 16:58:43 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417138 Introduce the portfolio early in the year. david_eisenberg https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417400 2021-07-15 16:59:01 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651417400 I really want to share portfolios to see what other classes are doing and to see how others grade my portfolios https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418049 2021-07-15 16:59:14 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418049 https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418057 Helping students understand the rubric better]]> 2021-07-15 16:59:14 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418057 Think ahead more. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418403 2021-07-15 16:59:40 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651418403 Give the students big picture of portfolio also in the beginning of the school year https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651419026 2021-07-15 17:00:28 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651419026 a lot of the other teachers had as many problems and concerns as I did after the year and their portfolios were scored similar to my students. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651560137 2021-07-15 20:08:12 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651560137 I have a need, a need for speed...no really I need to go through the content faster to stay on the time line. https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651561252 2021-07-15 20:09:36 UTC https://padlet.com/libby_turner/yrzogl46b8mqs0q6/wish/1651561252