https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc Or are they? en-us 2020-07-15 23:12:18 UTC 2023-05-21 22:10:05 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096903298 From the article I read it doesn't sound like we necessarily have a good amount of facts to support this claim, we have mainly theories, observations, and some possible correlations. We need specific studies and experiments conducted to really identify whether the correlations equal causations. The studies would need to take into consideration certain things like race, gender, socioeconomic status, and many other variables that could play a part in this topic.]]> 2022-03-15 23:37:23 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096903298 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096913389 Some of the problems with this belief could be that there are a lot of lurking variables that could be influencing this correlation. However, many of the correlations appear to be extremely strong which could create additional problems amongst parents as well as children. Being a parent is a difficult role, so assuming that the first children born are going to be smarter, puts pressure on parents to do better for their other children. It could also cause the 2nd, 3rd, etc., children, who are grown up now, to compare themselves to the oldest child. ]]> 2022-03-15 23:48:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096913389 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096914894 I think this information could be useful to parents especially, to really decide and understand what type of parent they want to be, before having children in the first place. This information could teach them to practice parenting skills that are maintainable for all of their children in order to make sure each child is receiving equal amount of discipline, care, etc. ]]> 2022-03-15 23:50:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096914894 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096920863 A possible issue could be the lack of education on parenting skills. No one is really ever taught how to properly parent, and it is obviously going to be different for everyone but maybe providing more free opportunities for individuals who want to improve and learn parenting skills could help this issue. The schooling system could also be gradually getting worse which is why the oldest child seems to be getting a better education, maybe we need to improve the curriculum and review it more frequently. ]]> 2022-03-15 23:56:55 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096920863 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096927431 It is hard for me to decide on how I feel about this situation because I personally have seen a higher level of intelligence in my oldest sibling compared to the second child and I. I also know my parents were more strict and hard on my oldest sibling, but I don't necessarily think that made the biggest difference. All of us have done well in school, but we have all gone into different fields so comparing the oldest siblings intelligence to mine is hard because our careers require different information to be learned and studied. It is definitely an interesting topic, that I would like to see more studies done on though. ]]> 2022-03-16 00:03:59 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096927431 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096930400 I think the biggest thing we can do in moving forward is just staying consistent with our parenting skills, that way there is no possible way that the parents can be blamed. I think each child is intelligent in their own ways and its hard to measure and say that one is significantly more intelligent than another. ]]> 2022-03-16 00:06:55 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2096930400 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098611027 There are many theories on this, but through most observations, I've made in my own life, the 6th theory about Lazy Parenting is the most plausible. New parents have more energy, time, and other things to devote to 1st first-born children. That's a fact because there are no other children to compete against within the household. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:24:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098611027 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098615731 I agree with the previous statement about parenting, and no one really learns to be a parent until they are one. Maybe a solution could be to have better support systems with each child so it's a more neutral learning environment. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:27:02 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098615731 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098623205 The negative aspects of the theory that first born children are smarter and get more attention than their younger siblings, could cause siblings to feel less loved and less important. It also may change the correlation among different geographical areas or ethnic groups. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:31:26 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098623205 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098626613 I think the current suggestion is useful for studying families and how different placement in them changes personality, and other things. I am a first born and I know from experience that my younger siblings had less strict rules and expectations that I did. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:33:34 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098626613 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098630205 I feel like my siblings would also agree that parents are stricter on first born children and have higher expectations, at least early on. I have seen this in their children and my own. I also may be a little bias because I am a first born. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:35:44 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098630205 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098632891 I think that this is an issue worth exploring and studying more because it's interesting and birth order has been shown to play a role in personality. There are many other studies that have been done and it's an interesting theory. ]]> 2022-03-16 18:37:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2098632891 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101345633 It doesn't sound like there's a lot of solid information/ stone-cold facts out there that support this idea. Although I would have to also agree about the sixth theory on Lazy Parenting as well. ]]> 2022-03-18 04:58:06 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101345633 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101352938 I agree with the lack of education with parenting skills as said previously. I also agree to the solution about having neutral support systems with each child. But, for example, if you fall under the category of The Lazy-Parent theory, how can one fix that? There are ways to become less tired and a little more energetic but not to the extent you had from when you had only one child.]]> 2022-03-18 05:05:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101352938 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101356259 That first-borns are kind of put on a pedestal. Even at school when teachers try to compare you to your older siblings. It creates a toxic environment all around and the consequences can be severe. It would make sense if first-born children are smarter because the other children are now buried in stress trying to become something that they just aren't. ]]> 2022-03-18 05:08:47 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101356259 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101359754 Positive aspects are that it's being talked about and hopefully, something useful can come out of it in order to educate people in this topic. I don't think a lot of people really think about it when they compare others to their older siblings on an intellectual level. So benefits would be to pinpoint the problem so, moving forward, one could approach this in a different way. ]]> 2022-03-18 05:12:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101359754 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101363776 I honestly don't think people think about it too much. My biases are that I'm the youngest child of 5 so I've kind of lived through this in many ways but I really don't know enough about this to consider it a huge problem in society. My gut says that it is a problem but maybe more of an issue that's dealt with internally? ]]> 2022-03-18 05:16:24 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101363776 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101366624 I think it's definitely more of an internal issue; like an issue that is seen behind closed doors. I think parents in this day in age are much more aware of these topics than they were back 30 years ago. I do believe, though, it is definitely a topic worth exploring more and exactly the damages it causes. ]]> 2022-03-18 05:19:27 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2101366624 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103498080 We know that one study was done that asked mothers to rate the academic achievement of their children. Researchers found that birth order was correlated with higher ranked academic ability. There are six hypotheses about the reason for these findings. They are the divided-attention theory, the bad-genes theory, the I've-had-it-with-kids theory, the no-one-to-teach theory, the divorce theory, and the lazy-parent theory. We need more research to test these hypotheses and explore other variables that could affect the results of this study.]]> 2022-03-20 08:16:25 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103498080 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103501815 One negative aspect is that younger children could be compared to older siblings. This could affect the child's self esteem and worsen their performance in school. Parents may not have as much time or resources to spend with younger children. Another problem is that older children could be tutoring the younger children. The older children could benefit from this since academically since they are practicing what they have been taught. The younger child's performance could suffer from this since they are having concepts explained to them by another child instead of an adult.]]> 2022-03-20 08:23:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103501815 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103504768 I think helping younger children in the family develop their own skills and self-efficacy can help their performance. Parents and educators can take time to acknowledge what the child has down well, instead of comparing to older siblings. I also think we can try to lessen the pressure on oldest siblings that comes from constantly being told that they have to be the example to their younger siblings. I think that we could help improve parental education and help parents set realistic expectations for what it will be like if they have several children.]]> 2022-03-20 08:28:07 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103504768 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103510054 I agree with others that this information can be useful for parents to maintain consistency in their parenting across children. Parents can work on setting realistic expectations for all of their children. This problem could be useful to examine different types of intelligence in children and explore how children can maximize their potential effectively. ]]> 2022-03-20 08:34:56 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103510054 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103512908 My gut tells me that even if there are differences in academic achievement, it may not matter in the long run. One bias that I have is that I am the oldest child. Honestly, I was doing better than my younger sibling academically in elementary school. I felt that I had to be perfect and that I had to set the precedent in the family. However, I ended up getting burnout and my sibling ended up doing better than me in high school. We are doing about the same now that we are in college. We have different strengths and have both turned out fine. I feel it is more important to address parenting issues that could be causing this discrepancy.]]> 2022-03-20 08:39:39 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103512908 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103517432 I think we can conclude that more research could further examine this correlation. I think it would be interesting to explore other factors such as parenting style, SES, and later life success. I think that helping children develop self-efficacy could help them later in life. It will be important for parents and educators to take action to support the younger siblings without comparing them to older siblings and put less pressure on older siblings to be perfect.]]> 2022-03-20 08:47:19 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2103517432 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113970202 The only factual evidence we have from this study is the study of mother's perceptions on their first born child. The theories given are great ideas but have not been tested and truthfully, they would be very difficult to test. ]]> 2022-03-25 15:00:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113970202 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113974748 Having known this information in general, is a good way to prevent this from continuing to happen. A solution is to educate parents and educators on this topic so they can be better parents for their later children as well. Just being aware of the tendency can allow parents to self correct themselves and be more consistent.]]> 2022-03-25 15:03:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113974748 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113979915 I think a lot of times, the younger children in the family compare themselves to the oldest child anyway- regardless of any evidence of study making them feel that way. In my family and my husband's family, this rings to be totally true. The difficulties for this study will be that the theories are almost impossible to test and provide factual answers. ]]> 2022-03-25 15:06:03 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113979915 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113985024 Each child is going to have individual struggles- not just the younger children. I consider this a positive because it shows that the oldest doesn't get all their parents eggs in their basket. Younger children may compare themselves but the oldest may feel a responsibility to set an example. Each child will have individual feelings. I also think this information holds a lot of value to help parents be more self aware of their parenting over the years. ]]> 2022-03-25 15:08:55 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113985024 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113991971 Like I mentioned before, this rings true in my life and my husband's family. I think there is a lot of truth to this study but it's difficult for me to take it as factual evidence instead of just a tendency in families. In my family, I think it had a little to do with my parents strictness but a lot more to do with the fact that my older brother was setting an example and I had the motivation to follow it and work just as hard- but my youngest sister grew up trying to live up to mine and my brother's accomplishments and had negative efforts. A lot of it has to do with personality type too. My sister didn't get to have little siblings cheering her on or parents who were only invested in her achievements. ]]> 2022-03-25 15:13:03 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2113991971 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114000140 Being aware of this tendency is important for the future. More importantly, I believe giving each child the same sense of belief in their abilities. Older kids should be taught to cheer on their younger siblings just like they did for them. ]]> 2022-03-25 15:17:35 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114000140 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114079881 The only real facts that we can gather from this post is that mothers are more likely to believe that their first born child is "best in class" than their last born child and vice versa. There are many theories as to why, but these aren't necessarily facts. ]]> 2022-03-25 16:02:59 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114079881 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114085921 I absolutely agree with the post above, this toxic environment of the younger children being compared to their older siblings is something that causes trememndous stress and potentially adverse effects. Another aspect of this study that is poor is that having a higher IQ than someone else doesn't necessarily mean they are smarter. There are many aspects of intelligence and having tunnel vision on IQ causes issues. ]]> 2022-03-25 16:06:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114085921 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114087890 In the black hat issue, I talked about tunnel vision on IQ as the only form of intelligence. I think that an effective way to combat that would be to educate the general public on the many different forms of intelligence and assure younger siblings that just because they might not have as high of an IQ it doesn't make them less intelligent. ]]> 2022-03-25 16:08:01 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114087890 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114089261 I think a positive aspect of this study could be to make parents aware that their parenting style on younger children could also have an effect on their relative success.]]> 2022-03-25 16:08:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114089261 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114090852 I agree with the statements above that the general consensus would definitely agree that parents are more strict on their first-born children than that of the younger ones. ]]> 2022-03-25 16:09:54 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114090852 brandenpetersen12 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114092759 I think the best thing that we can do is to educate parents on the importance of maintaining similar protocols on younger children and insuring the best upraising for them. It is also important to help the kids understand that IQ isn't everything and that there are many forms of intelligence. ]]> 2022-03-25 16:11:02 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114092759 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114916610 I agree with my peers. The article does mention some great theories but as far as how we can accurately test them is tricky. In my family situation my parents did go really hard and strict on my older brother, but because they were so strict, he did not want to do good in school on purpose even though he was a smart person. Its things like that that can vary and are hard to test or gather information.]]> 2022-03-26 15:36:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114916610 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114919788 AMEN to Emily's post. Taking several FAMS classes here at UVU i've learned so much about parenting skills. I remember learning about proper ways to speak to your children when your mad, and how its important that your "punishment" matches the mistake your child made. Just 2 days ago I was counseling my own mother on a wise way to bring something up to my younger sister that would help them have a healthier conversation about a certain matter. Just because I have seen how my mom can really take it to another level and that just doesn't help. ]]> 2022-03-26 15:40:40 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114919788 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114921761 Comparison. I remember because my parents were so strict with my older brother for not "getting good grades" that made me want to get good grades just so i didn't get in trouble like him. Because I got good grades my parents didn't need to consistently be checking on me or getting me in trouble. This caused issues between my brother and i's relationship. It goes back to the comparison and parents being one way with one child, and a different way with another child.]]> 2022-03-26 15:43:24 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114921761 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114924421 Being able to continue researching this topic would be very informative to parents of all ages. To help them understand why a child is acting the way they are, how they can most effectively help them or change their parenting styles to cater to that childs needs.]]> 2022-03-26 15:46:53 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114924421 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114925975 Like I previously mentioned, my older sibling did not get "the best grades in school" but he certainly is smart. I as the middle child wanted to be good to not follow in my brothers footsteps, and my younger sister can do what she wants without getting in trouble. Parents do really start to go easier on each kid, but its knowing what each of their needs are that would really help that parent child relationship.]]> 2022-03-26 15:49:09 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114925975 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114927793 There is no book on how to be a good parent to all your kids. I truly believe that each parent has the potential to become the parent their child needs but there will be a lot of mistakes along the way. When I would see how hard my older brother had it, I never thought his relationship with my parents would be the same, now I think he's the favorite child in the family. Its all about learning from your parenting mistakes and if there is something you need to change, there is always time to make up for it. ]]> 2022-03-26 15:51:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2114927793 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115157992 2022-03-26 23:45:56 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115157992 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115158845 2022-03-26 23:48:52 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115158845 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115159563 2022-03-26 23:51:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115159563 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115160132 2022-03-26 23:52:42 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115160132 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115160901 2022-03-26 23:55:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115160901 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115161725 2022-03-26 23:58:15 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115161725 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115958463 From what I have read in the article it doesn't seem like there is enough supporting evidence to back up this statement, so I would have to agree with others in the group. I think that there are some good mentions of things that could make some good statements on the subject. But I do feel like every family is different. In my own family it feels like my parents have always been the same on the subject of making sure we all work hard in school, I am only a few years younger then my brother, and it seems to me that my parents are sometimes harder on me being the middle child then they were on my older brother. So I feel like it is different for every family.]]> 2022-03-27 22:19:38 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115958463 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115961870 I agree with some of the previous comments that have been made, I think that it really takes time to learn to do the things that parents do. I am not a parent yet, and sometimes I think to myself that it would be an easy thing to do, but I know that it is not. I think that at times that it really does depend on the lack of parenting skills. I think you cant judge, until you are put in those shoes. Something that might help would be to make sure that those parents and kids have the help that they need to learn from these issues that could be present. ]]> 2022-03-27 22:25:37 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115961870 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115964064 Some of the negative aspects could be like I was talking about back in the green hat section that it could be a lack of parenting, another thing that I think could be a negative thing, is a lot of learning comes from the teachers as well, especially at a younger age so possibly siblings get teachers, maybe the older one gets a better teacher, and the younger one gets one that isn't as good. Some of the issues that come from this topic that could be present is that maybe the younger siblings feel neglected because there parents put so much time into all of it. Then maybe the younger siblings try to change the way that they are to try to gain their parents attention because maybe inside they feel a lack of love from their parents. ]]> 2022-03-27 22:29:57 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115964064 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115965075 I think that in the article it could be a eye opening read for parents that have kids to maybe show them maybe some of the things that they have been struggling with or maybe they would be able to see it better from the younger siblings shoes a little better. I think that it could benefit all parents to read, just to see where they think they are at, to see if they have some things they think they could work on. ]]> 2022-03-27 22:31:58 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115965075 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115966131 I feel like for me personally I dont feel like this topic is as crucial for me because I do feel like my parents cared about my school just as much as my older brothers. I think that for some people this is a very real topic and is something that this article could help them work on. But I feel like my parents are equally as strict on me as they were for my older brother. ]]> 2022-03-27 22:34:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115966131 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115967874 I think one conclusion that can be made on the subject is that every family is different, I do feel like for a lot of families they are a lot more strict on the oldest child just because it is a first for everything, but it does not mean that every family is like this every family is different. I think an action that can take place would be for all parents to read this article to see where they are personally at on the subject and how to help their kids in school. I think we have to start with people examining themselves in the topic then they can jump to action. ]]> 2022-03-27 22:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2115967874 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116002313 I agree with my peers that this article was interesting but had to factual evidence to support the claim. I agree with some theories but the proof is coming from the parents perception of the child. ]]> 2022-03-27 23:37:59 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116002313 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116003765 A negative consequence is the constant comparison of the older and younger siblings and not feeling like they are good enough. This could cause tremendous stress if you are constantly either being put on a pedestal or constantly not measuring up to your older sibling. ]]> 2022-03-27 23:40:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116003765 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116005821 I think education is a good start in helping parents not fall into the habit of comparing children. I think it is important to realize that each child is different has different talents and strengths and recognize them for their different strengths and not compare them to other siblings. ]]> 2022-03-27 23:43:34 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116005821 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116007716 This article could be helpful in helping parents determine what kind of parent they want to be. I think each parents has an idea of how they want to do it but don't necessarily know how difficult being a parents really is especially with multiple children. I think knowing that you aren't perfect but striving to have the same parenting style for all children can help the older child not feeling like their parents are so strict and the younger child to still be disciplined. ]]> 2022-03-27 23:46:14 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116007716 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116009902 Being the youngest, I feel like I have lived through phases of this article. I do think my parents were easier on me than my older siblings. However, I also think I got compared to them as well. I don't think it is a huge issue but I do think it is something that should discussed more and finding solutions based on each individual and family]]> 2022-03-27 23:48:25 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116009902 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116107964 Not to sound like a broken record, but there doesn't seem to be enough evidence to support this idea. There are too many variables between families and personalities and other circumstances. I'm the oldest in my family, but while I had better grades earlier on in my schooling, both of my siblings I feel are smarter, especially in certain areas like math or geography. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:13:40 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116107964 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116114523 Several people have mentioned the fact that anyone can be a parent, there aren't any qualifications or tests that need to be done. There should probably be a training or class that is mandatory to help with that. Many societal ills could be improved upon with proper and widespread education in many areas, but in particular family issues. We have been learning a lot of children and development in these classes, and while I don't have any children, I feel more prepared for them than before. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:18:10 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116114523 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116133143 Speaking as the oldest child, to my parents I was the guinea pig, the experiment, so that the kids after me could benefit from their trial and error. There was and is plenty of responsibility on my shoulders to be more mature and more helpful and to get the grades and do the right thing always more than my siblings were pressured to do so. Like in Encanto, I was feeling the "surface pressure"; expected to be a third parent or a babysitter to my siblings, and most of the time I was happy to do all these things for my family, but occasionally the pressure would get to me. So the negative to the thinking that the first child is smarter may be putting undo pressure to be perfect. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:31:29 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116133143 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116145594 A positive thing that can come from this, that some others had mentioned, is that this will open up the discussion for the family to become aware of how each kid is treated, and if adjustments need to be made for them based on personality or skill level. Parents can educate themselves on a variety of parenting techniques and styles. Also, comparison and competition can be detrimental between siblings if not tempered with praise and individual attention. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:40:49 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116145594 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116153254 I mentioned in another post already, but I feel strongly about being careful to put so much pressure onto the first child and neglect the other children, it'll just mess them all up. It's all based on personality and what parenting and learning styles work for each parent and kid. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:46:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116153254 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116169362 I feel it has been covered by others in these posts, and by myself in the other posts, but as we grow older, we discover that our parents were just winging it, and so are we, but there are resources available for children and parents alike to benefit from years of research to try other parenting and learning styles to improve themselves. Avoid pressure and neglect for any of the children, and work with strengths and personalities over generalities. ]]> 2022-03-28 01:58:29 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116169362 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116256902 Throughout this article I feel like there is a lot of information and several different theories that can pursuade people to think the first born child is often the smartest. As they impliment the study of mother's perspective on their first born child, I think it's headed in the right direction to give solid evidence and facts but it's just not all the way there. The other theories and beliefs do not have enough studies or evidence to support them as well so they are not that credible to the overall statement that the first child is usually smarter. It seems like they would have to conduct more research and solid facts to prove this idea at hand. The article also mentions how it would be difficult to conduct this research which can debunk their previous statements. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:01:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116256902 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116267590 I would defneitly have to agree with the outlooks and views Emily talked about in regards to this issue. Everyone parents differently and whether we like to admit it or not we learn from our parental figure growing up and often parent our children in similar ways. I think it would be very beneficial if we hadd more oppurtunity to learn and grow in regards to parenting skills and do more research about the positive and negatives of different parenting styles. I also think that all children are different and their learning cabailities and learning styles differ as we are all similar and different in many ways. If we were able to tend to those needs while children are learning and the best possible way for them to reiceve information we could benefit from that. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:09:41 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116267590 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116275055 Being the youngest I think I looked to my siblings for an example in regards to their work ethic and behavior for sure. Although I think this point of view could put lots of pressure on the oldest child and the youngest. If one or the other is smarter, they may feel down on themselves or less confident in their work. I think it could result in kids giving up when they don't live up to that expectation. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:14:57 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116275055 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116278645 I think this study can help parents understand what kind of influence they have on their children. If rules and expecations differ from child to child this may cause an unstable home life or resentment from children. I think it's beneficial to know so that we can learn from it when we have children or with the children we have now. It can help us to better understand how to parent and be a good support system during our childrens education. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:17:52 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116278645 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116282662 I think being an oldest child can lead to better grades mostly because of the expectations and stricness. Often times parents learn from each child and maybe would be more leniant on the next child when it comes to grades. Although it's hard to say because there is often the opposite situation where the younger child learns from the olders mistakes and may do better academically. It also could depend on their enviornment and I think thats a crucial role in this situation. Overall I do think the oldest child is more likely to get the best grades because they may feel pressured or have more rules during the parents first time really parenting. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:21:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116282662 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116285170 I think that as a whole it's important for us to learn from our parents mistakes as well as the things they did right. I also think it's important to learn about parenting styles and how each affect eachother. I think making sure we stay consistant with our children and most of all be supportive whether they do very well academically or not. Some kids need that extra support and we should encourage them in order to give them motivation. ]]> 2022-03-28 03:23:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116285170 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116495216 After reading the article, I would agree with my peers. There are multiple theories on why first-born children have higher IQs overall, but there was not much hard evidence or proof of research found in the article.]]> 2022-03-28 06:29:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116495216 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116506240 I would agree with a lot of the comments above. One major negative effect this research and theory could cause is comparison between siblings. This can negatively affect all siblings. It can make the oldest child feel pressure to perform at a higher level and can make the younger children feel behind at no fault of their own. ]]> 2022-03-28 06:38:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116506240 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116511786 I think that one way to help the possible negatives of this would be to just treat each child as a valued individual. This would hopefully help with siblings comparing each other. Another thing that some others have mentioned is taking advantage of parenting and educational resources.]]> 2022-03-28 06:42:37 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116511786 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116515363 I would agree with previous comments that it could help parents to be more aware of their parenting approaches and how they may differ over time. I also think that if the oldest child does have a higher IQ they may be able to make it a positive experience and help their younger siblings academically, which could be a bonding experience and positive for both parties. ]]> 2022-03-28 06:45:10 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116515363 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116576678 I would agree with the above comments that oldest children may feel more pressure to perform well academically and set the precedent for younger siblings. Being the oldest child of 6, I could see this being a factor in my decisions - especially academic. I am also going to be a first generation graduate from college and knowing that has been a factor in helping me continue to be motivated. I want to be a good example to my younger brothers. ]]> 2022-03-28 07:06:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116576678 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116580965 I do think that continuing to research this could be beneficial just to know about how sibling order affects individual children. It could also help to know if parenting has an effect on this and what parenting style(s) may be most effective. ]]> 2022-03-28 07:09:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2116580965 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215440510 According to the article, there are several theories telling of the first-born child to have higher IQ scores, yet there are no references to check. I would like to check references before making a decision about this topic.]]> 2022-06-08 20:53:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215440510 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215442764 Parent involvement is one area that studies show that children's performance in school depends on. Especially the father. If the father is actively involved in the child(ren), there will be a better home environment and better test scores in school.]]> 2022-06-08 20:57:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215442764 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215446754 Some may think that putting the oldest child on a pedestal may be pushing the child too much. This may lead the child to think that they have to be a perfectionist in order to satisfy the parents.]]> 2022-06-08 21:03:57 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215446754 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215448225 A positive aspect may be that the oldest can learn difficult things and pass them onto the younger siblings. This could give the oldest child confidence and assist in their self-esteem.]]> 2022-06-08 21:06:34 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215448225 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215450690 I am the middle child in my family. Growing up, my oldest brother always set the example for us. My younger siblings also learned to set the example. So, I was able to learn not only from my oldest brother, but also from my younger siblings.]]> 2022-06-08 21:11:05 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215450690 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215451842 I do not believe that all older children have a higher IQ than their younger siblings. I do, however, believe that this debate should be based on nature and nurture to define how children are scored for IQ.]]> 2022-06-08 21:13:15 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2215451842 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218261842 Although there are no facts to say that the oldest child is smarter, there are  theories that have left a majority of mothers to suggest their oldest child is the smartest and one of the best students in their class (As seen in the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth in 1979). Human evaluation studies are hard to do, but for the majority of mothers to have this perception seems to be more than a cultural ignorance. That being said, there is simply not enough conclusive evidence. The theory that each child is receiving diminished genetic IQ could be studied by having a large group of families volunteer to have each of their children have their IQ's tested at a young age and see if there is an downward trend. The theory that younger children don't have anyone to teach could hypothetically be tested by evaluating families that have a large gap between the oldest and youngest child and those that are at home enough to teach their siblings and see if there is a difference in IQ. Even so, most of these tests have too many variables that would be hard to control in order to make the studies perfect.]]> 2022-06-11 18:47:21 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218261842 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218263649 Exposing theories like this to the world can lead to limited thinking and growth in children who are not the first born. This exposure could also lead to the first born having insane pressure placed on them to perform, simply because they have access to the most IQ in the family, and therefor making them responsible to be successful or prosperous. Creating labels and boxes for humanity always hinders creativity and can mask potential. I think that studying this and teaching this would do much more harm than good.]]> 2022-06-11 18:53:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218263649 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218264772 I think that studying how the world impacts different members of the family is useful because it can lead to an understanding of circumstance and can create a plan for improvement, but I think that all birth orders should be studied with a light of every member having unique gifts and skill and have the research be broad enough to not label every individual in that birth order to be that way. I think that every child has unique things to work on and possibly more generic things being born as a middle child, first born, or otherwise, and that those things could be helpful to take note of to help society cope with challenges and improve. ]]> 2022-06-11 18:57:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218264772 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218265839 As mentioned in the green hat, I do believe that research about birth order is not only fascinating but that it can provide understanding and improvement in where a child resides in their own birth order. Research of any kind that can be positively proven can make an impact for improvement, there are just some things that are less necessary to study or ethically reasonable to know. I do find this research interesting but I think there is a Godly reason why it is so hard to prove.]]> 2022-06-11 19:01:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218265839 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218268140 My intuition is balanced between learning what theories suggest and also creating no limits or excuses because of them. A lot of these theories are sensible and plausible explanations as to why the first born would have the highest IQ, but passion is much more powerful than IQ. If a child shows passion in something, I hope that parent will recognize how to harvest that and allow that child to reach the potential they desire regardless of their birth order. I believe each person is an individual. I also believe that our families have an effect on us, but that effect can always be viewed positively. Regardless of studies that come out, there are always exception and I hope that nobody ever takes this research to pardon themselves from being successful. ]]> 2022-06-11 19:08:53 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218268140 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218269354 I am intrigued by the research of birth order and believe that it provides knowledge that can be beneficial, but I also believe that these theories are more of cautioning words to parents as they are defining characteristics of all first born children. I think that educating on how each child has a unique experience being raised in the home depending on what order they were born in and how to best help each of your children shine would be monumental research. I hope that the progress of this research is not to bring shocking news to the public but to help people genuinely improve the family unit and help ever child be successful. ]]> 2022-06-11 19:13:19 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218269354 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218329619 It doesn't seem like we have a ton of facts on this. There seems to be a lot of hypotheses but not necessarily anything scientific to back it or at least not enough to really solidify it as a theory.]]> 2022-06-11 23:07:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218329619 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330198 The biggest negative that comes to mind is the pressure put on both the parents and the first born kid. The parents will feel pressure to raise a smart kid and the kid will feel pressure to be the smartest kid. This could cause unnecessary stress on both parties and doesn't take into consideration any mental or physical disabilities. ]]> 2022-06-11 23:10:30 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330198 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330618 As far as what I said in the black hat section, I think a good solution is including language or guidelines of some sort for the situations, like mental or physical handicaps, so that there isn't that pressure to be the "perfect, smart" kid or parent]]> 2022-06-11 23:12:42 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330618 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330935 I'm not sure if there are really a ton of positives to this way of thinking, but one could potentially be helping parents figure out what kind of parent they want to be. Meaning, whether they decide to pressure their first born into "greatness" or whether they let their first born kind of follow their own path]]> 2022-06-11 23:14:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218330935 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218331523 It took me a bit to come up with an answer for this one because in my family there are 4 kids who all grew up together and we're all smart in different ways. Though as far as like school smarts, the youngest would be the smartest out of us. She's got a full ride to Gonzaga and graduated with a 4.05 GPA from high school while the rest of us barely made it through high school and only I made it to college afterwards. ]]> 2022-06-11 23:18:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218331523 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218331907 I think this is an interesting topic and definitely something that should be looked into more. I know there have been studies done that show how birth order can affect certain things, but like I said I just don't feel there's enough evidence to show how it can affect smarts. I think going forward, more research for sure and just keeping in mind those situations that aren't "normal" or "ideal"]]> 2022-06-11 23:20:20 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218331907 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218359140 The facts are "First borns around the world, it turns out, have higher IQs, perform better in school, and are considered more accomplished by their parents." There is no valid explanation given for these facts. Parents is the easiest and appears to be the most logical approach when trying to find out why this occurs. However there is no evidence that this is the case. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:35:48 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218359140 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218360544 What I noticed was that there really wasnt much statistical evidence other than the opinions of mothers. Although the information was relatively consistent, I would not suggest that it was completely accurate. I also think the level of observations from the parents differ because of their age later in life. They may think that the younger children are doing less because they now have full time jobs and aren't paying as much attention as they did to their older children. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:42:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218360544 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218360731 The current situation is the further down the birth-line you are, the more likely you will have a lower IQ. There are a host of negative aspects to this situation. First the weakness in this situation, it can be viewed as a one shoe fits all sizes type of approach. Creating an anchoring bias, "IQ is the most important variable in someone's life." What are the dangers and risks? First off society may become too dependent on IQ at large. When in-fact a person has much more to offer society than simply their IQ. The consequences of not understanding this have the potential to become dire. Families having less children, playing favorites and only pushing or progressing first born children, creating a wave of low self-esteem. Starting a snowball of more mental illness we do not need in our society. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:43:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218360731 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218361309 I thought this was a little funny. I am the oldest and even before this article my family and I came up with the different types of pancakes we all are and I was the odd, funky guinea pig pancake. Reading this I thought that although that is a humorous thought I do not think it is true. Learning about different theories in birth order from Alder I think there really are specific talents that each child inherits through their time born as a child.  For example, older children develop responsibility traits as younger child develop quicker social skills. I think it is through exposure and each individual family. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:46:30 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218361309 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218361914 I think the biggest thing we an do as parents is to stray away from labels and like a couple of others have said, to remain consistent with children. I do think that parents are imperfect and that parenting styles change over time so doing the best with what parents know. One other thing from the side as the child, is not to accept the label. As an older child to not think I am more responsible or smarter just because of the order that I was born or not to think that I am less responsible because I am the youngest but see these skills as changing in a process of development. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:49:28 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218361914 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362049 I don't think there is one over arching solution to this issue. There are many avenues of attack that can be taken. Starting at a macro level, provide truthful and accurate information about IQ, however let everyone know that this is one aspect of an entire person. You could be the smartest person a live but if all you want to do is kick rocks, what does IQ matter? Since we do not know what is causing greater IQ for first born children, and the only seemingly plausible place we can point is parenting. We can encourage parents to put continual effort in with all of their children and possibly even more with their youngest. At the micro level, let each individual take reasonability for their own IQ. May hap IQ cannot be changed, but every person should be encouraged to make the most out of what they can. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:50:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362049 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362495 I think it is interesting to think of different traits that are learned through different environments. On the side of children and the traits that they can develop, I think there are some high correlations in some of the skills developed. Maybe not on IQ but social skills, I think that younger children normally have higher social skills than grew up with older siblings. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:52:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362495 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362788 I think the positive to first children being smarter is it makes us start asking questions. Why is this happening? What can we do to change? Can it be changed? I think that knowing this information can be valuable to first born children. Knowing they may have strengths that their siblings do not have and they should reach out and be willing to help their younger siblings when needed. ]]> 2022-06-12 01:53:35 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218362788 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218363518 My gut and biases tell me that first children are smarter and it probably has to do with children being less disciplined by their parents. From personal experience I see this with my girlfriends family. All of her younger siblings are much wilder than she is and are not disciplined to half the extent she was. 
My intuition leads me to thinking of who has the highest IQ scores? What are homes like for the population of those who have the highest IQ scores? Could continual discipline change any of this? ]]> 2022-06-12 01:57:33 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218363518 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218363929 As I am sitting in my chair typing these responses I think, I will never let up on any of younger children. I will be fair, and a egalitarian to all of my children. But truth is that probably won't be the case. I am a worrier about stuff until I have done it. Once I've been through the ropes I stop worrying and it will be very likely that the same thing happens when I have children. 

]]> 2022-06-12 01:59:34 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218363929 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218364302 I think the negatives of this is definitely the conclusions that an assumption like this could take. Thinking that an older child is smarter than a younger child is not exactly backed up nor should it be assumed for every family. I also think that there are different statistics based off of different cultures. Even looking at the sex of the child, if we started saying that older brothers are smarter than older sisters people would start hoping for sons.]]> 2022-06-12 02:01:09 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218364302 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218364679 One thing that would be important would be to look at all environment factors. Coming from the parents, to the child life style and even to the different communities that are being studied. Also instead of looking at IQ maybe looking at other intelligences that could be used to measure effectiveness and how the order of birth can influence specific characteristics of the child. ]]> 2022-06-12 02:03:18 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218364679 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218413194 I honestly agree with my peers. The article makes strong points and ideas, but there is no factual evidence to support said theories. A lot of the proof that is being presented is from a parents perspective of their children which is very biased.]]> 2022-06-12 05:34:07 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218413194 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218414949 One big issue that I agree with is the lack of education and parenting skills. Although there is no handbook on how to parent every parent should still strive to give their child the very best, especially education wise. Another idea that I agree with is relieving the pressure on children. A lot of parents put an immense amount of pressure on their oldest children which is not fair at all. ]]> 2022-06-12 05:39:42 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218414949 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218418645 I agree with my fellow peers with he idea that attention to all kids is very important. Although there may not be a handbook on parenting, parents should strive to give their children a sufficient amount of attention. They should strive to give their children the upmost education. ]]> 2022-06-12 05:53:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218418645 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218419577 I accidentally posted on the wrong post. To bounce off of my previous post. The pressure that is placed on the younger siblings is hard to live up too. Only because the younger siblings live in the shadow of the eldest siblings. This could cause a lot of discouragement and self-doubt in the younger children. ]]> 2022-06-12 05:57:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218419577 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218420538 I think the awareness of the pressure that the oldest and the youngest have to face is a positive thing. Only because the playing field would be "evened out" because each child's expectations would be individually based instead of one based off of the other.]]> 2022-06-12 06:01:49 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218420538 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218421320 Honestly I do not have too much of an opinion because my older brother is smarter than me. My parents never really set the bar higher for me just because my brother was smarter, but I set higher expectations for myself. I wanted to make my parents proud just as my brother did. My gut tells me that my parents are proud of me no matter what, but my intuition says that I need to fill the shoes that my brother has set out for me.]]> 2022-06-12 06:05:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218421320 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218422030 In think that the biggest think to conclude form this is that there is no need to place blame anywhere. As long as parents are trying there best, and their child is trying their best as well that is all that can be done. Not every child is going to be the same especially intelligence wise. With that being said, we need to drop the expectations, and just let people be themselves.]]> 2022-06-12 06:08:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218422030 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218994982 From what I understood from the article, there is not much evidence to support the claim that the first child is smarter. Although the theories are compelling, statistical analysis is lacking. I agree with my peers who state that there are multiple factors that contribute to intelligence--attributing intelligence to birth order seems irresponsible. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:02:51 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218994982 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218995848 This is almost impossible to test, but there is some research that suggests that the first child born in a family is the smartest. There are several different theories as to why.]]> 2022-06-13 03:03:48 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218995848 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218997921 I agree with my peers that lack of education and little knowledge about parenting different children influence childhood development. However, I also feel that parents rely on their older children to interact with and help their little siblings which may lessen contact between parent and younger child relationships. I also think that children naturally have different gifts such as creativity, artistic ability, or other forms of intelligence. 

]]> 2022-06-13 03:06:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218997921 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218999832 I tend to agree with the 6th theory, The Lazy Parent Theory. I have worked with children for the last 6 or so years and it is often true; parents are very committed to doing everything perfect with their first child. Then by the time more come around, they are much less stressed about it and probably worn out. I think a solution to this is to know that NO ONE will ever parent any of their children completely perfectly. The same amount of effort should be put into each child, but expectations should be lower. No one is perfect.]]> 2022-06-13 03:08:27 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2218999832 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219001054 I agree with all of my peers and Kaden's comments resonated with me. I think having this misconception about birth order could be detrimental to self-esteem and cause people to become too focused on IQ-related activities that, as a society, we will not develop other necessary skills. To echo my peers, this theory puts immense pressure on all children and can cause resentment and unhealthy competition in the family. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:09:47 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219001054 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219001670 The problem with this is that now people can assume that first-borns are the smartest. I feel like this sets unrealistic expectations on the oldest child to always be the best, even if they don't have a higher IQ than their younger siblings. Labels aren't good for anyone.]]> 2022-06-13 03:10:32 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219001670 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219003927 I think this information is helpful because it can help parents understand how to help parents raise their children in a way that is somewhat equal to the children. I also find it helpful to educate ourselves about any topic regarding children so that we can raise them better. I like how many of peers mentioned that this information can cause us to ask why there are differences and how we can change them. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:12:58 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219003927 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219004734 I believe that the benefits of this research are that we can look at how we are raising our children and evaluate ourselves. I mentioned in the Green Hat section that I think parents do put more effort into their first round of parenting, but I don't think it's benefitting anyone. I think that all parents need to give themselves some credit and acknowledge all the hard work they do. Hopefully this research can encourage parents to do that.]]> 2022-06-13 03:13:49 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219004734 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219007043 I'm sure this research has some bias. Like the article said, it's nearly impossible to measure this accurately. While many oldest children have high IQ scores, there are many other ways to measure intelligence. Each person is unique and has their own strengths. There's no need to base intelligence off of a single skills test.]]> 2022-06-13 03:16:37 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219007043 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219007115 I feel like this is somewhat the case in my family. My oldest sister is the smartest (regarding academic pursuits) and I am similar to her even though I am the fourth born. My oldest sister and I have two siblings in between us; however, we have similar goals, aspirations, and drives. I feel like I suffer from confirmation bias in this instance. I also fail to account for how our other siblings are more successful in other areas of life. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219007115 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219009708 I agree with my peers that consistent parenting styles and high parental interaction with their younger children will help contribute to their success. We can conclude that more research must be done in order to determine the factors that contribute high IQ in children besides birth order. Families are different and have different issues, but it would be beneficial to share good parenting practices at a community level where the majority can have access to the information. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:19:54 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219009708 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219009717 All in all, IQ does not alone measure intelligence. It also cannot give a person a score of how amazing they are. Moving forward, I would like to see testing phased out of schools eventually. Unless a test really is being used to gauge what a person has learned, I don't find them necessary. There are other ways to measure learned information that will damage self-esteem less than tests. I hope one day we can stop comparing our weaknesses to others' strengths, and getting rid of testing is a great way to start. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:19:55 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219009717 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219018104 This article gives us just the tip of the ice berg on information needed.  With this being said, I believe that the lazy parent theory is the most reasonable that doesn't need as much information to be backed up. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:29:25 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219018104 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219019443 I really like what Emily had to say about the schools becoming worse as the years go on.  I think what she meant specifically is that the teachers are becoming less and less passionate leading to poorer education. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:31:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219019443 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219021441 One of the negative aspects that can be taken from this article is that being the 2nd, 3rd, 4th born will be much more difficult because the first born is getting all the attention.  They are basically getting the better everything. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:33:38 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219021441 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219023458 I believe it is all about what kind of perspective you have.  For 2nd, 3rd, 4th born children they can see this as a challenge and use it as motivation to be the smartest kid in this class.  This could potentially give them motivation they never know they needed. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219023458 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219027447 From personal experience, I would definitely disagree with this article.  My oldest sister was the first born in our family and never made it through college.   I was the youngest and I am on track for my bachelors and I was spoiled for the most part throughout my whole life from my parents. ]]> 2022-06-13 03:39:46 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219027447 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219028378 I believe that better education is a must in this situation.  There are many human development classes that hint at ideas to help you become better parents but if there were actual courses we could all take, I think it would benefit us all in the long run.  ]]> 2022-06-13 03:40:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219028378 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219120933 The article states that there are several theories that could possibly explain the reason that first-born children are typically more intelligent than later-born children. There is no real way to test these theories.]]> 2022-06-13 05:37:06 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219120933 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219123977 By performing tests on children, there may be an increased stigma that later-born children are just not as intelligent. That could lead to a self-fulfilling prophesy which could harm the development of these children, and causing them to think in a destructive way of not believing themselves to be enough.]]> 2022-06-13 05:41:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219123977 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219126852 To fix the problem of creating an unwanted stigma about later-born children being unintelligent, we can continue to focus research going forward of helping to improve the problem. Once we are able to pinpoint a reason why later-born children are less intelligent, we can implement workshops for parents to ensure that their younger children are getting all of the help and attention that their older siblings got.]]> 2022-06-13 05:44:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219126852 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219129020 This conversation is very valuable in providing equal opportunities for all children going forward. There are many opportunities to nurture children more equally, and once we know what later-born children lack, we must educate parents on how to create equal opportunities for their children.]]> 2022-06-13 05:47:23 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219129020 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219131084 There are of course biases against younger children, leading to children possibly being treated differently by parents or teachers based upon birth order. There still seems to be speculation on the correlation, but the link is strong between birth order and intelligence.]]> 2022-06-13 05:49:56 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219131084 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219132490 It is important that, moving forward, we continue to see children as equal to their elder siblings, and to encourage growth among all children. The more we see and treat children individually, the less those biases will affect us.]]> 2022-06-13 05:51:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219132490 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219147743 I agree with the comments of my peers that there is not really any factual evidence in this article. There are a lot of observations and theories, but no facts that first children are smarter. There are also many ways to measure intelligence, not just solely looking at IQ test results. 

]]> 2022-06-13 06:07:38 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219147743 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219149845 I believe that there needs to be more ways to measure intelligence instead of just IQ tests. They can be very helpful, especially to determine if additional help may be needed, but it should not overlook other measures of intelligence. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses and may be more intelligent in one area than another. I believe that there should be more education on the multiple areas of intelligence and that they should be considered in studies.  I also agree that there should be more education and support for families. However, there are also a lot of things that can only really be learned through experience. ]]> 2022-06-13 06:09:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219149845 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219150256 I believe that a difficulty is being able to measure intelligence. There are multiple forms and so it would be unfair to just determine intelligence by an IQ test. There is also risk for parents to view or treat their oldest child differently from the rest of the children or to increase the comparison of the younger to the older. There would also be more pressure on parents to see how intelligent their first child is and would use that to predict that the other ones would be less than that. Which could lead to even more biases. 

]]> 2022-06-13 06:10:09 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219150256 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219150671 I think that a positive aspect is that it can give a good perspective to parents of why their first child might be more intelligent. It can help them analyze how their parenting and expectations might be different from their other children. It could lead to good self reflection and changes made for parents of multiple children and even those preparing to have children.]]> 2022-06-13 06:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219150671 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219151055 My intuition tells me that it is not always the case that first born children are the most intelligent. I am the oldest sibling in my family and so I do see some good points in how parenting changes with younger siblings and may become more relaxed. But I also know that each of my siblings excel in different areas. We all have different strengths and weaknesses. I agree that parenting and expectations definitely influence behavior, but at the same time parents are not perfect and are doing their best.

]]> 2022-06-13 06:11:01 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219151055 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219151429 I think moving forward we can be more mindful with how we parent our children. We can work on managing our expectations and trying to provide the same amount of support and encouragement for each child to be successful. At the same time, each child is different and so parents have to adjust their parenting for each child. I think there needs to be more consideration about multiple intelligences as it can be hard to really say who is the most intelligent when there are so many factors. Each person has their own combination of strengths and so I think it would be more beneficial to focus on those, and if the oldest children have a similar combination. I do think this topic is interesting though and that there should be more studies done. 

]]> 2022-06-13 06:11:26 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2219151429 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229793409 I just want to talk about how we now know per this class, that there is not only one form of intelligence, but multiple forms. We are all so different in our own way. Some other weaknesses to the article could be that some variables have been left out such as demographics, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, etc. ]]> 2022-06-24 12:55:43 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229793409 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229794735 Just as some of my other classmates have suggested, I think that it is important that we have parents that are continually being present for their other children. Either that or figuring out that we need more resources for our children in order to help them suceed. ]]> 2022-06-24 12:57:58 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229794735 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229798382 one thing that I might agree with is that there is a biology factor to this statement as well. Older siblings might be able to get better genetics because they are less at risk for health defects the younger your parent is. 
Also it is positive as it brings awareness like my other classmates have mentioned. It is important as well for parents to remain consistent. ]]> 2022-06-24 13:03:34 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229798382 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229799574 My gut tells me that first born children are not always the most intelligent. In my personal observation, I know too many adults who are the youngest in a large family who have come out to be doctors, lawyers, etc. Being born first is not an always an indication of intelligence. ]]> 2022-06-24 13:05:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229799574 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229801200 If there were more testing done in the other areas of intelligence testing than I think the hypothesis could become more reliable with positive testing. I also think looking at DNA and genome sequencing could be good indications of outcome as well if there was testing done in that area. ]]> 2022-06-24 13:08:05 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229801200 https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229804267 As far as I can tell, there were only bias conclusions based off of a mothers perception of intelligence within her children... This is not a good indication of results. There could be many reasons for the majority vote of intelligence with the first born. First born children are also given the most leadership experience, greatest fast-track for maturity due to a caretaking role and more undivided attention given from parents. ]]> 2022-06-24 13:12:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kristinaoldroyd/yli3v8busrfiucvc/wish/2229804267