Beowulf Discussion: Fighting Grendel's Mother by Bill Smith https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb Discuss the blending of pagan and Christian elements from the fight scene (pp. 50-53) en-us 2016-08-23 10:34:36 UTC 2020-11-03 17:05:29 UTC hello@padlet.com Battle With Grendal's Mother  amari_rouzan https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335099 After Grendel is killed, Grendel's mother attacks Heorot for revenge.]]> 2016-08-23 12:16:12 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335099 Pagan and Christian  dennis200307367 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335163 Grendel's mother is a demon.]]> 2016-08-23 12:16:42 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335163 Grendals mother shvetsmargaretha15 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335183 The sword is blessed with magic by giants. Grendals mother and son are demons. 

]]> 2016-08-23 12:16:52 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335183 Grendel's mother  alexrose99 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335396  ]]> 2016-08-23 12:18:20 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335396 chrisgonzalez1173 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335691 The battle between Grendel and Beowulf caused the battle between Grendel's mother and Beowulf ]]> 2016-08-23 12:20:21 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119335691 The story uses pagan wicth craft  jonesmichael8547 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336003 And uses people from Christianity ]]> 2016-08-23 12:22:23 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336003 The battle is lit boyntonimportantemail https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336075 The story uses elements of Christianity by using god's divinity and powerfulness and pagan witch craft]]> 2016-08-23 12:22:46 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336075 The conflict between Grendel  https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336106 2016-08-23 12:22:57 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336106 millskassie99 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336228 They blend them by having magic and witchcraft which is a pagan belief and having Grendel and his mom being evil and having God help Beowulf defeat then is the Cristian beliefs.]]> 2016-08-23 12:23:31 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336228 Pagan vs christians karich1415 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336294 They blend these two by Having grendel be the evil sprite of can and having pagan witchcraft being used on the soldiers weapons.]]> 2016-08-23 12:23:56 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336294 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336475 The conflict between Grendel led to Grendel's mother trying to avenge him -ismael]]> 2016-08-23 12:24:48 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336475 kyra_myles https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336496 Beowulf manages to defeat Grendel's mother becauwe God was spiritually with him . ]]> 2016-08-23 12:24:54 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336496 Jjsjsjj https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336551 2016-08-23 12:25:08 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336551 Darius dowdell https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336632 Grendels mother goes after Beowulf after Grendel was killed and God was "with him", allowing him to defeat grendels mother.]]> 2016-08-23 12:25:27 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336632 selenaremyy https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336695 Grendel's mother is mad that Beowulf killed Her son Grendel and wants revenge ]]> 2016-08-23 12:25:48 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336695 catswillsoonrule https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336941 Some Christian elements from the fight scene were the parts when it said things like "Holy God, who sent him victory" that the Christian scribes who wrote the story obviously just threw in there for  ood measure. Some pagan elements of the story were the ~*magical*~ things like the magical sword or just the general idea of monsters using black  ]]> 2016-08-23 12:27:07 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119336941 Mama G tafarilawrence https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337068 Grendel represents pure evil and that's how his mother and everyone else looks upon him. He is tight about the party sounds in all the fun that his ears take in. ]]> 2016-08-23 12:27:52 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337068 Mother taylondg https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337177 The fight had pegon and Christian elements like when they described her as an evil spirit it was the christian influence
The pegon aspect was when he found the weapon that he slay the mother with]]> 2016-08-23 12:28:28 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337177 Sofia https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337615 The battle has Christian elements in it  when the used references to Christianity. Also pagenism in the fight with swords and magic]]> 2016-08-23 12:30:54 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337615 Jasmi jasmine13martin https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337640 the fight with Grendel mother has both Christian and pagan elements the pagan element comes into aspect when he uses the sword to kill grendels mother. The Christian aspect comes into play when they used Christian references such as her being evil ]]> 2016-08-23 12:31:01 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337640 monalisacostales https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337678 Conflict between boewulf and grendels mother. He defeated the mother with his bare hand because God was spiritual with him]]> 2016-08-23 12:31:17 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119337678 It has Pagan witchcraft but monotheistic Christian values ibrutus17 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119399657 Isaiah]]> 2016-08-23 16:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119399657 Pagans believe in gods as well as Christianity so when they saw Grendel they were saying things to send the evil away  https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119400026 Hector  ]]> 2016-08-23 16:04:32 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119400026 Pagans fight with swords while on the Christianity mindset, Beowulf wanted to fight barehanded  mastertrilogy1999 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119400360 2016-08-23 16:05:34 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119400360 The pagans fought with swords while Beowolf wanted to fight with his barware hands. Beowolf had an advantage to since God kinda helped him kill grendals mother. https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401272
-Ilijah Thompson ]]> 2016-08-23 16:08:18 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401272 Noah inman https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401285 It has the witchcraft factors of paganism, but the moral values and views of christianity]]> 2016-08-23 16:08:19 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401285 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401826 beowulf used his strength within God to kill grendels mother with his bare hands. Grendels mom Wasn't phased by beowulfs sword due to paganism. Angel & Taylor ]]> 2016-08-23 16:10:01 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401826 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401973 REVISE: The weapons were "cursed" ro the sword was MAGICAL AND MADE BY GIANTS so this is like a PAGAN VIEW.
Beowulf was the ALMIGHTY'S hero, so this would have been added later by a CHRISTIAN writer.

Pagans wanted to fight with weapons and use other things for a battle while Beowulf wanted to fight with barehandes like Christians -mady betancourt &Francisco Resendiz ]]> 2016-08-23 16:10:34 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119401973 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119403354 2016-08-23 16:15:26 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119403354 deven saray Ty https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429450 2016-08-23 17:41:27 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429450 Pag https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429718 2016-08-23 17:42:15 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429718 Pagans fought with soward https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429726 2016-08-23 17:42:16 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429726 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429920 At the bottom of page 51 it states, "-and Holy God, who sent him victory," which represents the acknowledgement of the presence of God during a tough time. (Nicolle Bochenski)]]> 2016-08-23 17:42:59 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429920 Pagans used magic while the Christians used the power of Almighty God https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429975 -Tysean and Matthew ]]> 2016-08-23 17:43:10 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119429975 Cody Canedy https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430507 The weapon forged by giants, and the iron sword not being strong enough was probably a pagan trope/thing, ]]> 2016-08-23 17:44:37 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430507 Jon,josue,jesus,edgar https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430582 Pegan uses magic and christians used amighty god]]> 2016-08-23 17:44:50 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430582 Pagans fought with sowards. Christians used spirit and god to fight. And Beowulf fought barehaned-Chris,oz,paul https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430753 2016-08-23 17:45:23 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430753 Pagans use magic and Christians use God.   Corey https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430886 2016-08-23 17:45:52 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119430886 she was jealous and wanted revenge -kt k e https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431006 2016-08-23 17:46:18 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431006 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431070 2016-08-23 17:46:31 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431070 She wanted revenge on beowulf for killing her son. - Steven jake odalys micaela. https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431705 2016-08-23 17:48:41 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119431705 Alyssia  https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119496741 The pagans used magic and the Christians used God as there element of power ]]> 2016-08-24 00:45:53 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119496741 Jonathan  https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119557314 she was just filled with rage because her son was killed by Beowulf]]> 2016-08-24 12:02:58 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119557314 Cammi Bennett https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119561677 The scene, while keeping many pagan aspects in its plot and recognition of the giant-forged sword, was heavily laden with Christian undertones. The author frequently describes monsters and locations as unholy and hated by God.]]> 2016-08-24 12:27:50 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119561677 Luke moore https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119562834 The lake is described as being God-forbidden and full of demons and discusses the battle being between demon and man. But then refers back to the original story as Beowulf uses a magic (pagan) sword to kill grendels mother (for the sake of the story), while the author still describes the situation with Christian references.]]> 2016-08-24 12:34:51 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119562834 Tanner Dunphy https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119629637 2016-08-24 16:20:38 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/119629637 https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/886978733 2020-11-03 17:05:29 UTC https://padlet.com/billsmith/yj7liuuyvisb/wish/886978733