Reading and writing in English by Itziar Elorza https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang When and how would you start? en-us 2018-10-22 07:33:04 UTC 2019-10-26 10:01:30 UTC hello@padlet.com Start reading at 4, learning the phonemes of most used words like their names, Ama, Aita... https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400232229 2019-10-21 11:46:34 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400232229 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400268439 Learning of the FL occurs in the first years of pre-primary. The main resources used are storytelling, songs and vocabulary reviewing through visuals. The first years are usually quite memoristic and repeating.

]]> 2019-10-21 13:01:00 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400268439 Kids should start doing English activities when they are 4 so that they can begin to get used to the FL and its context. However, I would not work with it in detail until they are 8. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400329989 2019-10-21 14:28:49 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400329989 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400343697 With foreign languages such as English, I think written should start later than speaking as writing is more focused on formS and they first should need to develop communicative competences. However,  in early primary they should be able to read and understand simple sentences or words as well as being able to write them in an understandable way. 
Nadeth O.

]]> 2019-10-21 14:46:56 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400343697 English learning should start at 4 with storytelling, educative songs, and basic vocabulary (colours, animals, weather elements and simple shapes). This way, children would internalise and produce the language from the very beginning and with 5-6 years they could start reading and writing what they learnt during the previous years. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400366513 Leire P.]]> 2019-10-21 15:17:55 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400366513 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400402659 Learning reading and writing is a compulsory task to do. It is very important to start this process when children are in Pre-Primary in order to develop their abilities. When it comes to English, being this quite different to Basque may happen to be difficult for children in the BAC. Anyway, this can not be left aside and should start working on it at some point. Teaching English as a communicative tool also takes with it the need of learning how to communicate through written language.
Olatz Lucas]]> 2019-10-21 16:08:16 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400402659 It could be said that reading and writing are the first steps towards literacy. But first, children have to develop their language by constructing the meaning of those words that they are constantly listening to. Afterwards, children should be able to read and write on their L1 for first primary, which means they have been already exposed to spoken language for almost 6 years. We have to take into account that in that process, the phonemic learning has also happened. So, when should children start to read and write in English? Well, I would say that when they are already capable of communicating orally in an efficient way; just as they do in their L1. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400417739
Cristina]]> 2019-10-21 16:29:33 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400417739 From my point of view, the key is not when to start, but how to start. The fact that two-year-old children only do English for two hours a week will not bring much benefit. Perhaps it would be better to start English when thay are older in a more intensive way. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400428094 2019-10-21 16:44:31 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400428094 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400440033 Writting, based on my own experience, while learning other languages, should start as early as possible. Written language and spoken language are often completely different. In English for example, how you write and how you prononce the word you have written are sometimes disctint. So, if you learn how to talk but  still do not know how to write or even read, you do not comprehend the language, neither its' rules.
Endika Serón]]> 2019-10-21 17:02:52 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400440033 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400455688 I would say that the best moment to start with writting in English is almost a bit later than speaking. It is true that kids start learning to write with 5-6 years old, so, from my point of view, it can be take advance of that moment to start with english writting too. And the same happens with reading]]> 2019-10-21 17:23:59 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400455688 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400473013 In my opinion, there is no an exact age to learn a language, but it is true that according to what I have seen, it is easier to do it since you are a child. Referring to English, not having as much contact in our lives as Basque, it is difficult to learn it as the L1 in the few hours you have contact with English at school. So English learning should start at Pre-Primary, as they work on storytelling, songs and basic words of vocabulary. They should be able to understand what they read and what they say, creating simple sentences, and if it is possible writing them understandably. 
Ainhoa G
]]> 2019-10-21 17:50:22 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400473013 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400507670 In my opinion it is better to start writing once the kids pass to Primary, rather than in Pre-Primary. The reason is that in Pre-Primary students learn just a few things, such as, the alphabet, and counting from one to ten, but pushing theme to start writing would be too much challenge, so I would probably  focus more on the input.
I would ask theme to fill cards with the name, the street, and the birthday of all their classmates.

Martin Zufiria.]]> 2019-10-21 18:41:01 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400507670 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400510164 From my point of view, English learning as a L3 should be based in communication, so firstly, Pre-Primary 4th grade children should start understanding and producing the language orally, focusing on form (the basic words and sentences). Then, when they get older, as in the other languages, they are going to start connecting sounds with letters. So, I would say that English written language could start at the end of Pre-Primary. However, rather than the age, is HOW to start.

Ainhoa Iraundegi]]> 2019-10-21 18:45:03 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400510164 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400524164 I think that as writing is involved, students should start learning to write or at least to link the sounds with their corresponding symbol at the age of 4 (Pre-Primary) as what the L1 concerns. As for the TL, my opinion would be to start in Primary Education, once they have more or less mastered their L1 writing, even though the listening and the speaking can be performed in Pre-Primary.
Iker Badallo]]> 2019-10-21 19:08:54 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400524164 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400529641 The children learn through imitation, so the exposure is vital for a good development in the language. There is not probably a perfect age to start learning another language, but I would say that 4 year olds are capable to start with the process. However, in order to teach the language, a lot of aspects have to be taken into consideration.  

]]> 2019-10-21 19:18:36 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400529641 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400531986 I would say that as English is not the first language of the students and they start to learn it in Pre-Primary it should be focused in oral communication. And then, once they start to produce the language and are able to communicate in English it is the time to start teaching how to write. However, instead of focusing on when children should start writing in English, we should focus on how that could be done.

Ainara Picamills]]> 2019-10-21 19:23:04 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400531986 Regarding when to start writing, I would say that first of all it is of vital importance to develop the language orally. Once the learner has acquire a good spoken level, he or she must learn to read by not only saying what it is written but also understanding the text itself. Afterwards, the learner would be able to start writing and for that, teachers should provide children with appropriate tools. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400536276
Mikel Gabirondo]]> 2019-10-21 19:32:02 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400536276 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400536390  I would start teaching how to read in the foreign language as soon as possible (the earlier the better). This needs to be done in an entertaining manner rather than in a rigid way, therefore, teachers can use different types of games and similar resources. In the case of writing I would not worry that much about it in early stages. I think it is better to start working on vocabulary and grammar having as a goal oral communication. And once students have started to understand and produce the oral language, I would start with the writing part.

Ana Campos]]> 2019-10-21 19:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400536390 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400543792 As each student is different I wouldn’t say that there is a “perfect” moment in which they must start writing in English. First of all, I would start focusing on students’ oral communication and I would work on it until they feel comfortable enough with the language. When we reach that point, I would start introducing the writing work. 

Irati Grela

]]> 2019-10-21 19:50:23 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400543792 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400551442 I would say that the period in which students should start learning a L3 is between the las years of Pre-Primary and the first ones of Primary due to the oral communication that can be produced. First, children need to know how to talk in order to associate sounds with letters. After that, I would star introducing the written language. 

Leire Escribano]]> 2019-10-21 20:07:41 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400551442 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400553789 In my opinion, in order for children to acquire a language  there is a process that has some steps to be followed. I would say that first children need to focus on producing the language orally and connect sounds with the words in order to begin writing them. This happening in pre-primary, writing can be more inportant later in primary maybe when they already know how to do it in their L1. Even if writing is very important, I would mention that it is better to improve it and focus on it on later stages. 
Katrin Bergua]]> 2019-10-21 20:13:25 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400553789 From my point of view, I don't think the key is when to start but how to start though. I would say that English learning as L3(mostly in the Basque Country) should be based first on communication and after having a knowledge onproducing the language by connecting some words or sentences with sounds, it would be the momento to learn or acquire the written skills. After saying this, I would say that last stages of pre-primary would be an adecuate to start writting in English. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400562195 Leire Elola]]> 2019-10-21 20:34:05 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400562195 PROGRESSIVE APPROACH https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400563932 Based on the articles we have read it is clear reading and writing should be introduced in Pre-Primary. In the case of English it might be a little more complex but we have already seen many resources a teacher can use to make that work, such as storytelling activities and so on. Even though it could be used for linking words to meaning, it can also be used for the sake of practicing pronunciation. From my perspective, there are three compulsory steps all teachers should follow when teaching reading and writing in L3: being able to identify phonemes, being able to identify the word as a whole and finally, being able to use it in a communicative way within a context. Sounds of the language should be introduced at the same time Pre-Primary students are learning vocabulary by linking a picture to a word. Every word gives the chance to experiment the sound of a language. I would do it in Pre-Primary years and would later focus on writing, given the fact that L1 writing should be adressed first. However, I reckon that it is beneficial to start introducing English written words as soon as kids realize the connection between sounds and letters. 

XABI HERNANDEZ]]> 2019-10-21 20:38:47 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400563932 In my humble opinion, if we consider children should acquire the language in a natural way, they also need to understand that this language has a written form which is something not new to then, unless by the time they start learning English they are not able to write (pre-primary). Taking into consideration that in many of the cases children start English lessons when they are in primary, there is no need to do it later, as they know how to write. Obviously, the way it should be done (easy tasks) and the level of exigence might be lower (no many corrections and appropriate feedback). https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400583488 MELISSA PEREZ]]> 2019-10-21 21:43:11 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400583488 I don't know much about this topic because we have not learned much about it, but from what I've heard, the sooner they start the better. https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400584502 We tend to think that learning English or L3 will be more difficult for kids since they do not use it in their everyday lives. However, as they do with Basque and Spanish, children should start knowing the language in Pre-primary (at the age of 4).  They can start little by little trying to understand the general idea of what they're talking about or reading about, and then they would start learning the meaning of each word and more specific content. That's why the sooner children start using the L3 and reading in that language, the better it'll be for their future.

Alaia Lopez.]]> 2019-10-21 21:47:20 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400584502 itziarelorza https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400707161 Children who are learning a foreign language at an early age should start writing in that language at the age of 4-5 years, once they enter the language.
Natalia Crismeli Guerra]]> 2019-10-22 06:55:23 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/400707161 https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/401126766 Based on what we have been reading and working, the sooner children starts making contact with L3, the better. I would introduce L3 at the age of four. At first, I would introduce the language in a natural way by speaking and working simple things, for example, by storytelling. They love stories, so could be a good start point to introduce it and to catch their interest. After having a basic level, I would start working the written and reading skills as writing and reading are quite related to each other.
Nerea Loizaga]]> 2019-10-22 20:10:41 UTC https://padlet.com/itziarelorza/writtenlang/wish/401126766