https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4 en-us 2022-07-06 03:40:19 UTC 2022-07-06 05:40:53 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237828649 Indonesia surprised the communist rebels 
But the communist forces controlled Vietnam
This the Dutch we’re happy but the French were not this longer fights in Vietnam ]]> 2022-07-06 05:14:47 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237828649 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237831233 US wanted economic recovery in Indonesia as it did not approve of the way the Dutch exploited Indonesia whereas in Malaysia, the US trusted the way the British were handling matters. There was also anti-communist sentiments in Indonesia, which assured the western powers, while the British still felt the need to address the Communist party in Malaysia. Furthermore, the Soviet Union and China did not show interest in either Indonesia or Malaysia.]]> 2022-07-06 05:18:48 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237831233 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237831838 People controlling Indonesia was harsh and lost support :( 
Negotiations with Dutch was successful 
Managed to put down revolt by communist

Negotiations between Vietnam and France did not go as well and caused war :( 
Communist upbringing occurs and USA helps to combat it
USA forced to retreat 


]]> 2022-07-06 05:19:44 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237831838 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237832205 The Malayan Union was much more peaceful compared to the Republic of Indonesia. This is likely due to the fact that the Dutch had treated Indonesia very harshly during the time it was a colony and had continued to treat Indonesia cruelly, including the two Police Actions, the second one which was met with international condemnation, forcing the Dutch to acknowledge Indonesia as independent. Meanwhile in Malaya, most armed conflicts during the decolonisation was for the intention of removing the communist forces in Malaya.]]> 2022-07-06 05:20:20 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237832205 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237832739 Indonesia:
Dutch lost support because of their actions + Republic of Indonesia was anti-communist
Therefore USA helps the Republic gain independence
Vietnam:
Viet Minh was pro-communist
USA did not want Viet Minh to take over, Soviets did
Vietnam War happened, lengthened the amount of time to gain independence

Therefore, Vietnam took longer to decolonise than Indonesia]]> 2022-07-06 05:21:05 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237832739 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237833606 While Indonesia faced less resistance, as it had less support from Communist powers during the cold war, USA supported it's independence and sped it up. However, in Vietnam, communist Chi Minh Ho and the fear of support by Communist China meant USA wanted tighter control, opposing independence and slowing down decolonization.]]> 2022-07-06 05:22:21 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237833606 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237833664 The Indonesian nationalists cracked down on communist rebels, hence the US saw Indonesia as a potential ally against the communist bloc. Hence the US backed Indonesia in its quest for independence. However, the communists were leading the independence movement in Vietnam, hence the Western bloc was not willing to let an independent Vietnam be communist]]> 2022-07-06 05:22:26 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237833664 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237834576 Indonesia's views on communism aligned with the Western countries, being anti-communist, while North Vietnam is strongly communist and thus the Western countries were very against accepting Vietnam as an independent country]]> 2022-07-06 05:23:53 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237834576 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835342 Indonesia:
The Indonesian goverment was heavily against communist as communist goes against religion. As such the US was keen on having Indonesia as an independent state to aid them in being against the Communist Bloc. But in Vietnam, after the Japanese were kicked out, they intend to set up a Communist regime, to which the US was not happy. As such they interfere heavily, fearing the Domino effects, causing Laos, Cambodia, Myanmar, Thailand would fall to communism and build a strong Southest Asian Communist Bloc. This cause a civil war to broke out in Vietnam with the US interfering militarily, delaying independence in Vietnam.]]> 2022-07-06 05:24:59 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835342 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835557 Colonial attitudes:
The Dutch were a lot more brutal in their methods than the British, who were open to dialogue. 

International reputation:
The Dutch almost immediately lost the support of their allies because of the reported brutality while the British were still seen positively by their allies and had their support until the Suez Crisis, which tarnished their reputation.

Communism:
There was no perceived threat of communism in the Dutch East Indies as Sukarno was fervently anti-communist, at least at first, but Malaya was undergoing a communist insurgency, which convinced America to continue helping them. ]]> 2022-07-06 05:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835557 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835688 In Malaya, peace was quite commonplace. The only threats were the Communist insurgency which was dealt with quickly. They required Malaya to be multiracial to assure the British and this was quickly achieved. However in Indonesia, even though there was a small insurgency that was crushed very shortly after it started, it was not peaceful and the Dutch treated Indonesia badly for 2 eras until the invasion of Bali, and still their actions were insufficient to make up for their previous crimes.]]> 2022-07-06 05:25:35 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237835688 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237836534 Indonesia was able to crush the Communist insurgency very quickly, however the Communist rebels in Vietnam were hard to crush. In Indonesia, the Communist insurgency was gone but for Vietnam, both world superpowers were pulled into a proxy war and at the end, the Communists surprised the world by launching a surprise invasion of South Vietnam and lead to the reunification of Vietnam after 20 years.]]> 2022-07-06 05:27:12 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237836534 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237837222 Malayan emergency occurred and they needed support from western countries.
Briggs plan implemented 
Sir gerald Templar managed to win peoples hearts.

Dutch was exploiting Indonesia
More independent and needed less support ]]> 2022-07-06 05:28:03 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237837222 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237837793 The ROI managed to gain independence from the Dutch much faster as they managed to launch massive rebelliong against the Dutch. This is likely due to the fact that the Dutch treated the indonesians much worse than the british did to the malayans and thus the indonesians gained their independence from the Dutch through heavy handed violence and were much faster]]> 2022-07-06 05:28:56 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237837793 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237838159 Malaya was relatively untouched by conflict compared to Indonesia, the US entrusted Malaya to the British, unlike Indonesia, which was controlled by the Dutch. The US didn’t approve of the Dutch oppressing Indonesia and rather preferred the Dutch to focus on recovery in Europe after World War 2. Furthermore, due to rash decisions by the Dutch such as the Second Police Action, the Dutch lost international favourability and the US ultimately decided to side with the anti-communist indonesia against their fight for independence against the Dutch. This led to an early victory and earlier décolonisation. On the other hand, the international community didn’t have any problems with the British and their occupation of Malaya, including the US, which was convinced there was no immediate communist threat in Malaya. However the British wanted to trample any remaining communist forces before acknowledging Malaya’s independence, that décolonisation took longer.

]]> 2022-07-06 05:29:34 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237838159 titusng101 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237838657 The superpowers were not concerned for Malaya as the communists were not a threat in Malaya with the addition of the Doviet Union and China not providing any assistance to the Malayan Communist Party. However, the British that was in charge of Malaya did not want to decolonise Malaya until communism in Malaya was eradicated.
The USA wanted the Dutch to focus on its own economic recovery and the containment of communism in Europe. The USA also did not approve of how the Dutch handled matters in Indonesia. Communism was also not a threat in Indonesia as the Soviet Union and China did not provide assistance to communist movements in Indonesia and the Republic of Indonesia was also against communism. Hence, the USA decided to help Indonesia achieve independence.]]> 2022-07-06 05:30:22 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237838657 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237839601 The Soviet Union and China were both not interested in either Indonesia or Malaya. However, the USA had intervened to help the Indonesians since the USA wanted recovery of the Indonesian economy. In addition, the Dutch did not receive any support since they had exploited the Indonesians. On the other hand, the USA let the British take care of Malaya since they trusted them to be able to care care of it. In Indonesia, the USA was not concerned about communism since the Indonesian nationalists were successful in their anti communist campaign while in Malaya, the British felt the need to also take care of the issue of the Malayan communist party. Due to this, Indonesia had a faster decolonisation while Malaya had a slower decolonisation.]]> 2022-07-06 05:32:05 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237839601 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237840564 In Indonesia, straight after the war, Sukarno declared the independent Republic of Indonesia. He had quite a few supporters due to the strong nationalistic ideals of many Indonesians, partially due to the harsh treatment of the Dutch in the colonial years before the war. The Dutch naturally did not want to let go of Indonesia, and so the Dutch forces clashed with the Indonesian ones. The Dutch were forced to sign a treaty recognising the independant republic of Indonesia, however, the Dutch were still reluctant to let go. They launched a few police actions to try to undermine the Indonesians, but this was met with a lot of resistance from America. This was due to the Indonesian government being very anti-communist, leading them to even put down the communists in Indonesia by themselves without the Dutch. And so the Dutch had to withdraw from Indonesia, leading to a quick decolonisation. The British in Malaya, however, had to stay in Malaya after the war to deal with the problem of communism, which took a while to deal with. Sir Gerald Templar won the hearts of the Malays, and this allowed the communist influence in Malaya to be undermined, and this led to communism no longer being a threat. However, this also took a while, as the British could not put down the insurgency immediately as most of the communists were supported by Chinese. ]]> 2022-07-06 05:33:45 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237840564 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237841840 In Indonesia, the decolonisation was fast mainly due to the demonstration by the Indonesian Government that they were strongly anti-Communist after the events of the Madiun Revolt where they put down a revolt by pro-communists. The actions by the Dutch also drew international condemnation due to their cruelty, especially since the US did not support colonization after the war during this period, when they were generally friendlier with the USSR.

In Vietnam, initially the US left the French to deal with Vietnam, as the US wanted the French to focus on economic recovery. By the time the gaining communist strength drew US attention, the attitude in the US had turned strongly anti-communist


]]> 2022-07-06 05:35:47 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237841840 https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237845544 Communist forces were weaker in indonesia due to its largely theistic community standing as opposition to them. But in Vietnam the communist forces were a more significant force and the US did not want the communist Viet Minh to take over vietnam and cause communism to be spread around southeast asia. The USA intervened in Indonesia as the Dutch’s harsh actions led to it losing support from the international community. Vietnam went through a proxy war between communist and anti communist blocs]]> 2022-07-06 05:40:53 UTC https://padlet.com/anhsloh2/yanmc974drwj7fb4/wish/2237845544