https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr en-us 2022-08-23 05:22:50 UTC 2022-08-23 20:49:12 UTC hello@padlet.com rvagnino https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2268358661 Wellman argues that “without positing a right to freedom of association, we could not satisfactorily explain what is wrong with one country forcibly annexing another” (p. 112). Do you think this is the case? If so, explain Wellman’s reasoning and defend it. If not, explain what other reasons might explain why forced annexation might not be morally acceptable.]]> 2022-08-23 05:23:33 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2268358661 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269252348 Wellman argues that countries have a freedom to associate. Do you agree with this premise? Explain wellmans argument and explain whether you think wellmans right of an individual apply to states. How is a state different from an individual in its rights. Is it the same or different? What other concepts in political philosophy can this carry over too. ]]> 2022-08-23 20:30:51 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269252348 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269253493 A Libertarian response to Wellman’s premise that there are no more important rights or moral concerns that override a states right to exclude is that people, and foreigners, have a right to “freedom of movement” — however, is this something that can truly be deemed an absolute and general right? Can, and should, people be allowed to inhabit or loiter in any place of their choosing?]]> 2022-08-23 20:32:16 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269253493 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269253515 Does a state’s right to association extend to excluding certain groups of individuals, or does its power end at excluding all individuals. ]]> 2022-08-23 20:32:18 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269253515 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255197 In the paper Wellman argue that the right to freedom of association is important and overshadows other rights such as colonial past or global trade. Do you agree with Wellman that there is not right that supersede the right of association? If yes, provide some further reasonings, else, can you provide an example of a right having higher priority?]]> 2022-08-23 20:34:32 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255197 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255592 On page 130 Wellman talks about how it is a property owners right to invite someone from another country to come and work on his private property. From a libertarian point of view the individual is more important than the government so a foreign should be allowed to work on private property. Do you think this is right or wrong. Should there be additional restrictions for that kind of work.]]> 2022-08-23 20:35:08 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255592 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255902 Wellman wrote in his paper that a state has a presumptive right of association, and since no right can overwrite this presumptive right, it grants the state the power to exclude immigrant. Do you think that this presumptive right is of the highest order? If not, explain otherwise.]]> 2022-08-23 20:35:32 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255902 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255976 I agree with Wellman that "without posting a right to freedom of association, we could not satisfactorily explain what is wrong with one country forcibly annexing another" (p. 112). This is true for all justifications of laws and beliefs. Without being able to accurately describe the morality of something you'll be unable to properly justify the thing you're enforcing or standing out against.]]> 2022-08-23 20:35:36 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269255976 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256011 Wellman argues that individuals have a right of movement indicating they can exit a country at any time. To what extent can this individual right be extrapolated to a state's right? What implications would such a right have on the state and surrounding states ?]]> 2022-08-23 20:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256011 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256091 Wellman argues that freedom of association is the most important right that a person can have, specifically groups of people. Argue for or against wellman’s claim for freedom of association being the most important right. Debate specific arguments from wellman’s essay where he tries to make this claim.]]> 2022-08-23 20:35:46 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256091 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256437 The egalitarian approach towards Wellman’s ideas present itself as an objection. It attacks Wellman’s premise that states that there are no more important rights or moral concerns that top over the state’s presumptive right to exclude. However the egalitarian approach says otherwise where there are an abundance of social and material inequalities between people living in the states that are more important. Is the egalitarian objection right and if so, explain. If not, explain why The states’ presumptive right is more important in favor of Wellman.]]> 2022-08-23 20:36:18 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269256437 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257118 Wellman argues how some rights can be more important than the others rights. Do you agree with this statement? If so, how are we suppose to know which right is more important in different scenarios.]]> 2022-08-23 20:37:13 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257118 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257269 Wellman points out that “just as an individual’s freedom of association entitles one to remain single, a state’s freedom of association entitles it to exclude all foreigners from its political community “ (111). Do you believe it is right to compare an individual’s experience in attempting to associate with a country to the example of marriage and right of association that Wellman provides? If so, explain how this analogy helps defend Wellman’s argument. If not, discuss why this analogy is not fitting for the discussion. ]]> 2022-08-23 20:37:25 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257269 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257808 Wellman argues that "a country may not institute an immigration policy which excludes entry to members of a given race because such a policy would wrongly disrespect those citizens in the dispreferred category." [p. 139] Do you agree with his point? Give specific reasons why you think it is true or not.]]> 2022-08-23 20:38:08 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257808 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257885 Wellman argues for the importance of the right to freedom of association. Do you think this right justifies any or all acts of exclusion by individuals or nations? Is it morally acceptable for a country to exclude another from association on any basis?]]> 2022-08-23 20:38:13 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269257885 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269258077 I don't think Wellman's argument is correct. Freedom of association is important, but it is not the sole reason why forced annexation is morally unacceptable. If I were to annex your country, I would be imposing my laws, beliefs and worldview on your citizens. To do this without consent would also be violating your citizen's right to liberty and their pursuit of happiness however they choose. ]]> 2022-08-23 20:38:29 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269258077 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269258627 Wellman argues as one of his premises, “No more important rights or more pressing moral concerns override the state’s presumptive right to exclude,” while the luck egalitarian perspective argues that equality is necessary to overcome the unfairness of the situations of one’s life due to luck or the conditions they were born in. Wellman responds to this objection by stating that luck egalitarianism can override the right of association, but states still have this right of association by saying that distributive duties are different than associative rights. Do you agree with Wellman’s point of view that these duties differ or are luck egalitarian ideas in conjunction with the rights of association?]]> 2022-08-23 20:39:18 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269258627 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269259423 Using the example of "White Australia", a suite of Australian laws designed to restrict all nonwhite immigrants from entering the country, Wellman states that "[u]nless Australia were already composed exclusively of white constituents...it would be impermissible to institute immigration policies designed to approximate a “White Australia,” not because such policies might insult potential black immigrants (though no doubt it would) but because they would fail to treat nonwhite Australians as equals" (p.140). Is this a reasonable continuation of Wellman's line of reasoning, or is this still morally incorrect?]]> 2022-08-23 20:40:00 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269259423 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269261608 I believe that a country would be at moral fault in institution of a policy that prevented members of a particular race the ability to immigrate, given its abject discriminatory basis, its violation of people’s right to associate, and that it impedes a person’s right to move freely.]]> 2022-08-23 20:43:04 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269261608 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269262891 Yes the state should be able to limit immigration because the state is the highest power.]]> 2022-08-23 20:44:17 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269262891 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269264245 The state’s right to freedom of association, while being crucial, is not the most important right as there are other rights that supersede it in importance. One such example can be the foundation of citizenship, as one individual must hold citizenship of some state such that they are under regulation of some law or holding identity of some state. The state does not have the right to “disassociate” one citizen and revoke their citizenship]]> 2022-08-23 20:46:16 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269264245 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269264596 People has limited right to inhabit any place they want just because states have the right to decide whether to accept immigrants or not due to their right of autonomy. Therefore, "freedom of movement" is not an absolute right that overrides the freedom of association.]]> 2022-08-23 20:46:51 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269264596 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269265822 A potential criterion for determining which rights are more important than others could be which one is more important to protect. This can be decided in a number of ways: 1) which right protects the largest amount of people, and thus is more important to protect in order to ensure the well-being of the most people; or 2) which right protects the most vulnerable people, and thus is more important to protect in order to ensure that no member of the population is left especially vulnerable.]]> 2022-08-23 20:48:27 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269265822 https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269266117 The concept of a state lends itself to a definition of its individuals suggesting that a state's right to association must extend to excluding certain groups, however it is immoral to exclude groups based on certain unalterable criteria.]]> 2022-08-23 20:48:54 UTC https://padlet.com/rvagnino/w97v668yrwntodyr/wish/2269266117