Haiku by Basho by Karen https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8 en-us 2023-03-09 18:19:22 UTC 2023-03-22 00:06:05 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516945163 New Years Day
thinking lonely thoughts
of an autumns evening ]]> 2023-03-15 01:14:19 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516945163 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516946203 I think humans play the role of the observer, they are the ones providing a commentary or evaluation of what they're experiencing, and sharing through Haiku
M.G. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:15:00 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516946203 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516946553 the contrast between nature and human nature]]> 2023-03-15 01:15:14 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516946553 Descriptions of nature that represent emotion and human experience https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516947618 2023-03-15 01:15:56 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516947618 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948099 I do not think that haikus can effectively be translated from language to language, as there is a very specific structure that needs to be followed. In order to effectively translate it, you would likely need to either lose the structure, or lose some of the meaning behind the Haiku. I think it could happen if someone tried very hard and got very lucky with how many syllables they used, however I do think it would be incredibly hard to keep the structure and the meaning. Maria Schul]]> 2023-03-15 01:16:17 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948099 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948737 The bare and empty nature of winter, which represents loneliness and hopelessness ]]> 2023-03-15 01:16:41 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948737 Nature in Haiku https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948845 Nature is by far the most important theme in Japanese Haiku. It derives itself not only from the importance of nature in Japanese culture, but also from the interaction and physical reactions to nature in it's most raw and pure form. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:16:46 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516948845 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949321 I don't think they can be translated effectively because some words don't translate over into other languages and some meaning would be lost.]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:05 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949321 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949345 I do be that it can be translate but not completely effective because different languages have their own ways to saying things.]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:06 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949345 andreacarrillo1201 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949590 I believe with a proper translator it can be accurately translated but the meaning it held in its original language can never be fully carried over with a translation of haiku to another language. It is very difficult to accurately translate something word by word and hold the same meaning. -Andrea C]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:15 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949590 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949648 Descriptions of human nature or human interactions told through a different lens, typically being nature. Maria Schul]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:18 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949648 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949718 A theme that I saw was the Haiku taking notice of a small point in time, like a bird catching a fish, or  the beginning of a rainstorm. It was a way to be present in nature at that specific time. 
M.G. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:20 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949718 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949767 Because a haiku is such a short way of expressing oneself in a poem you have to make sure that you are able to convey what you mean in a very specific way. I think that is the beauty behind a haiku, that you can get across a really deep rooted message in such a simple form ]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:22 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516949767 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950050 I would rather use nature. I like the ways you can incorporate different elements like the seasons into haikus]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950050 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950073 The structure of the haiku can change the amount of emphasis placed upon the subjects. If placed in the middle, content may be viewed as 'details,' and if placed at the beginning or end, the content may be viewed with much more importance and consideration. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:36 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950073 I believe that humans partake in haikus by talking about something that they perceive through their own perspective. For instance, just because one views something in a positive manner doesn't mean that everyone does. -Tracy L. tracylam2468 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950252 2023-03-15 01:17:43 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950252 Nature stevennakamura22 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950292 A common theme is nature, but I think a specific theme are changes in nature throughout the seasons]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:45 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950292 Haikus can be translated into other languages, but not effectively. maria_olekh https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950504 A haiku is infamous for having a specific syllable count (5-7-5, or 5-7-5-7-7, if you were to write an “extended haiku” or renga), and that restriction is exactly what forces poets to really consider which words are necessary and why. That minimalism can be translated into other languages, but it wouldn’t convey the true essence of the poem. And if someone were to try to translate it in such a way that the syllables matched up, they would risk losing some or all of the nuances of the poet’s original intent and meaning. 
-Maria Olekh]]> 2023-03-15 01:17:53 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950504 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950775 I think translating any form of written word (haiku, poetry, the bible) causes mistranslation and a lack of understanding. Some words exist only in one language and when a haiku is tranlsated and the word doesnt exist in english, for example, then the next closest word is picked and some meaning is lost. 
- sanne]]> 2023-03-15 01:18:03 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950775 Humans are usually represented through an animal, like exposing human beings when under stress or extreme situations. At the end of the day, humans are viewed like animals with basic needs, hunting and preying on the week. However, nature takes a different approach through emotions. Unpredictable and uncontrollable; I enjoy reading or finding symbolism in films that reflects the characters journey. https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950806 -Getsemani ]]> 2023-03-15 01:18:04 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950806 Translating Haikus https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950899 Haikus follow a strict 3 line, 5 syllable, 7 syllable,  then 5 syllable structure. While translation into other languages may be able to convert superficial meaning, the poet’s choice of words and structuring of the poem is lost if translated into another language. However, this is not to say that all meaning and all implications of the poem are lost. Explanations/Translation notes often help the reader to better understand such nuance that may have been lost. / Dylan Chae ]]> 2023-03-15 01:18:08 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516950899 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516951006 I think humans are the ones who experience all the things throughout time and a haiku is their way to express certain moments of time. As it is meant to be a short poem, it allows the person to be concise in what they are saying and use very descriptive terms in order to portray their emotions or experiences.]]> 2023-03-15 01:18:12 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516951006 Humans take the role of describing their own perceptions to their experiences in nature and everyday life. - Genesis :) r5cnp8sdt4 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516951868 2023-03-15 01:18:49 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516951868 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516952369 old pond---

A frog jumps in

The sound of the water 
]]> 2023-03-15 01:19:07 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516952369 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516952502 I think the short and simple statements in a haiku allow for more interpretations of their meaning while also having a very specific topic behind them which I think is fun to interpret. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:19:12 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516952502 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516953439 I'd rather use animals to represent human nature in Haiku because you can take notice  of the animal interacting with their environment or other living things and see their expression and behavior that is unique to them. 
M.G. ]]> 2023-03-15 01:19:48 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516953439 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516954321 Traditionally, haiku seems to be about observing the world outside to better understand one’s inner world, and capturing it in brief, direct written form. They were created as a reaction to elaborate poetic traditions much like Wabi tea ceremonies were formed in contrast to overly-elaborate and indulgent practices of the time. The haiku seems to me an extension of the concept of Wabi Sabi into literary practice, as it traditionally seems to be the practice of humbling oneself in order to more clearly see the beauty beyond the poet and capturing it in a restrained form.

- Sydney]]> 2023-03-15 01:20:22 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516954321 https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516957285 I do think they can be translated- but not effectively. Although I think it’s possible to get the general idea and thought process portrayed, little intricate details may be lost in translation which would of course take away from the subject matter. So although I reckon they could be translated I think they would lack important Elements- Eli ]]> 2023-03-15 01:22:18 UTC https://padlet.com/karendomingokedh/w5wgvi0xozqopeu8/wish/2516957285