"A Doll's House" by Henrik Ibsen by glenda https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w Analysis of Ideas and Characters w/ focus on symbols, images, etc. en-us 2017-10-03 18:32:33 UTC 2025-09-24 17:10:08 UTC hello@padlet.com Point: comment/opinion alericwil https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193625223 Line: quote
Application: Why important, so what?
A.W.

]]> 2017-10-03 19:37:14 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193625223 Comment 20170911 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193628256 Nora keeps secrets from Helmer which can ruin relationships. "And your husband never get to know from your father that the money had not come from him."
The whole time he never knew that the money had not came from his father which then makes Nora a liar.  pg 22BH]]> 2017-10-03 19:44:38 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193628256 kaleehillier https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193628528 "Helmer: Because such an atmosphere of lies infects and poisons the whole life of a home" (pg.37 lines 3-4).
This quote by Helmer shows irony not only because Nora is doing exactly this, but also because he is saying it straight to her face without having any idea what she has done. K.H.]]> 2017-10-03 19:45:16 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193628528 Helmer Talking About the Guilty Man ea2626 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629084 The irony of Helmer addressing Nora about a mask while Nora wears the mask of a perfect wife each day.

"Helmer: Just think how a guilty man like that has to lie and play the hypocrite with every one, how he has to wear a mask in the presence of those near and dear to him, even before his own wife and children. (36 Line 22)"

The way that Helmer describes the terrible things that Krogstad does is irony as he talks to his wife who is truly hiding behind a mask. As he tells her this, the reader gets the sense that Nora is in distraught because she doesn't want to be the cause of harm in what she believes is a happy marriage. But yet, her actions have begun what could be a snowball effect.

EAL]]> 2017-10-03 19:46:28 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629084 crazyladybug10 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629499 "This Krogstad, now, has been persistently poisoning his own children with lies and dissimulation; that is why I say he has lost all moral character" (37).
Krogstad did the same thing that Nora is doing. Helmer speaking this way makes Nora afraid that he will see her this way, and that she may be poisoning her children/ losing her moral character. K.R.]]> 2017-10-03 19:47:29 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629499 Character Analysis (Nora) 2016415 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629823 As the story progresses the audience begins to realize that Nora isn't actually stupid as she makes herself seem to Torvald. We see this take place when in the beginning of the story Nora acts as if she is just a little girl to Torvald, this is shown very prominently when he calls her by nicknames. "Helmer: Is that my little squirrel bustling about? --> Nora: Yes!"(Ibsen,12) Later on we begin to see that Nora actually know a lot more than expected of a woman and has many secrets of her own that could hurt the relationship. Such as when we discover that Nora had taken out a loan to save her husbands life. This is stated directly later on when Nora is talking to Krogstad a 2nd time."Nora: You don't mean that you will tell my husband that I owe you money?"(Ibsen,31) 
S.M.]]> 2017-10-03 19:48:21 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193629823 Comment 20170911 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193631671 Nora broke the law. "A wife can't borrow without her husbands consent" 
She had to have her husband say before she took the money but she get his consent. Ms. Linde is trying to explain to Nora that she cant do that but she ignores her. It shows that Nora doesn't mind being dishonest.pg 21
BH]]> 2017-10-03 19:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193631671 Nora characterizes a short-sighted, slightly 'ends justify the means' way of thinking. alericwil https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193632693 "Mrs. Linde: Listen to me, Nora dear. Haven't you been a little bit imprudent?
Nora: Is it imprudent to save your husband's life?" (p21).
Nora accomplishes a good deed in her mind, saving her husband, by employing potentially harmful or unethical means. She, as a child, focuses on an outcome and disregards the effects of the actions to achieve that outcome. Nora does not care that she may have offended Torvald through her actions, because in her mind the important thing her actions have done is save him, and that is good. The good at the end justifies the faults. This creates a theme that sometimes instantaneous satisfaction is worth the long term regret or problems associated with it. 
A.W. ]]> 2017-10-03 19:56:04 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193632693 Literary device crazyladybug10 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193632739 Helmer: "I literally feel physically ill when I am in the company of such people" (37). The irony is that she is the kind of person that he's talking about, and he has no idea. K.R]]> 2017-10-03 19:56:12 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193632739 Nora 2020820 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633551 As the reader is introduced to each of the characters, Helmer calls Nora "my little lark" giving the image of a bird, flitting here and there, always busy (pg 12). This image is reinforced as Nora's character is seen to be temperamental and ever-changing along with her mood. During her conversation with Krogstad, Nora uses her husbands position to claim a certain degree of influence as she tries to establish her superiority. However, when Krogstad claims that she should be able to use her "influence" to help him, she protests, saying "But, Mr. Krogstad, I have no influence" (pg 30). This is not the only time we see Nora contradict herself or change the story, proving to be a pattern that could eventually end up having serious consequences. A.S.]]> 2017-10-03 19:58:24 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633551 hannahlowman23 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633585 "Mrs. Linde: Listen to me, Nora dear. Haven't you been a little imprudent?" (p. 21).
Mrs. Linde doesn't understand how Nora could do something so extreme to obtain money for her husband and to lie to him about it. She also does not understand how Nora can't see how rash her actions were. HL]]> 2017-10-03 19:58:29 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633585 Quote llt9183 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633627 Krogstad:"The matter never came into court; but every way seemed to be closed to me after that. So I took to the business that you know of. I had to do something; and, honestly, I don't think I've been one of the worst. But now I must cut myself free from all that. My sons are growing up; for their sake I must try and win back as much respect as I can in the town. This post in the Bank was like the first step up for me-and now your husband is going to to kick me downstairs again into the mud.
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Krogstad gets exciting on Nora and he expecting her to influence her husband to make another decision or Krogstad is going to have trouble.
]]> 2017-10-03 19:58:37 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193633627 Comment crazyladybug10 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193634311 With Nora discovering that Krogstad committed the same crime as Nora did, and that it ruined his life, it gives her more motivation to try and help him. She's become defensive of Krogstad, because she doesn't want her life to be ruined as well. K.R.]]> 2017-10-03 20:00:41 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193634311 20170911 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193634662 On page 37 why does Nora tell the Nurse she doesnt want her kids to see her. "No! No! Dont let them come to me. You stay with them Anne." What is she talking about, they are her kids why doesnt she want to see them?
BH]]> 2017-10-03 20:01:48 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193634662 The Little Songbird ea2626 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193636094 The theme of identity is presented through the character Nora and how she finds her true identity through the play.  
At the start she is called by Torvald pet names which reveal more about how he sees her than who she really is. She goes along with this "we larks and squirrels", suggesting that she does not know herself but is a reflection of what Torvald sees. Neither Torvald, nor  Nora, actually know who the real Nora is. In Act 3 however Nora realises her true identity when she says to Torvald "You've never understood me - I have been greatly wronged."
Mrs Linde's role is a dramatic device as it  is she who leads Nora to her self-discovery and to honesty. Mrs Linde tells Nora "it's impossible to carry on with all these concealments and excuses." which turns out to be right. Mrs Linde sees Nora for who she really is.
Nora has to leave Torvald and her children as she realises that she is "first and foremost a human being" and that she has to find her true identity as one - "I have to think these things through for myself and see to it I get an understanding of them." She can only discover herself through leaving Torvald and her family, however painful that may be. 
Ibsen seems to be suggesting that to find your identity you need to be honest and true to yourself. 

EAL (Rory the Lion)]]> 2017-10-03 20:05:38 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193636094 kaleehillier https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193636653 "Mrs. Linde : [walking to the window]. I have no father to give me money for a journey, Nora" (pg.19). The way Mrs. Linde speaks to Nora shows a hint of jealousy, and stemming from that jealousy, a bit of resentment. Although they are friends, this underlying feeling will most likely lead to problems in their relationship. K.H.]]> 2017-10-03 20:06:58 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193636653 20170911 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193637213 Krogstad and Nora are talking about the death of Nora's father. He died on September 29 but it is signed as 2nd of October. Turns out it was Nora signed it for him and then admitted  it to Krogstad She was suppose to send it to her father but instead she did it herself. It shows Nora's character as her personality as a dishonest human. pg 33 BH]]> 2017-10-03 20:08:31 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193637213 Quote llt9183 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193637573 Nora:"Well, do it, then!-and it will be the worse for you. My husband will see for himself what a backguard you are, and you certainly won't keep your post then."
Krogstad is trying to threat Nora by revealing her secret of borrowing money from Krogstad, but Nora doesn't seem to afraid Krogstad's threat.]]> 2017-10-03 20:09:51 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193637573 Character Analysis (Torvald 2016415 https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193638356 2017-10-03 20:12:44 UTC https://padlet.com/gfunk441/w53kaed6xb8w/wish/193638356