"Killers of the Flower Moon" by David Grann by ovbc2024.q4@gmail.com

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USO Indo-Pacific and USO Europe | Middle East | Africa will host our monthly Overseas Virtual Book Club discussing "Killers of the Flower Moon" by David Grann on November 14th at 2000 JST on Zoom

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About the Book

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David Grann

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Did you like the book? Why? Why not?

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Before starting “Killers of the Flower Moon,” had you ever heard of the Osage murders? If so, how did you learn about it, and what did you know? Do you think this history should be taught in schools?

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What do the contemporary media reports on the wealth and lifestyle of the Osage reflect about white perceptions of Native Americans (pp.6-7; pp. 76-77)? In what way do they lay a foundation for the way the murders and mysterious deaths were treated by law enforcement?

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Discuss the circumstances that distinguished the Osage from other Native American tribes, including the actions taken by tribal leaders early in the century; the influx of white settlers and oil prospectors; the granting of headrights; and the guardianship system.

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How trustworthy do you find the various authorities who appear throughout the book to investigate the murders? They include William Hale, who Grann initially describes as a “powerful local advocate for law and order,” as well as the frontier lawmen, the brothers who conduct autopsies of the bodies, the local sheriff, and later, the FBI

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What was your impression of William Hale? What qualities does he share with people who achieve power and influence today?

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What does Grann’s account of the relationship between the U.S. government and Native Americans contribute to your understanding of the country’s history? How did government policies affect individuals like Mollie and her family?

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Why do you think the FBI pursued the case of the Osage murders? What did you learn about the birth of the agency?

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The crimes in Osage County involved many levels of deception and betrayal. In addition to the actual conspirators, who else either directly profited from the crimes or was silently complicit in them?

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During Hale’s trial, a member of the Osage tribe said, ”It is a question in my mind whether this jury is considering a murder case or not. The question for them to decide is whether a white man killing an Osage is murder – or merely cruelty to animals” (p.215). Why does this observation resonate beyond immediate circumstances?

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We are familiar with many American crimes and criminals during the early 20 th century from various media. Why do you think the story of the Osage murders hasn’t received similar attention?

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Are there any recent examples of racial prejudice and injustice that parallel those described in Killers of the Flower Moon? What has changed about the approach taken by law enforcement?

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About the attitudes expressed by the white community in the face of racial or religious discrimination, in what ways have things remained the same?

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How much did you know about the Osage Murders or the start of the FBI before watching the movie?

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Which character/actor was your favorite? Which character/actor was your least favorite?

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What did you think of the movie portrayals of the Osage Nation (for example the actors, language, clothing, and other cultural practices)?

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The Osage were given modernized nicknames like “Mollie” and “Anna”. Does this still occur today, changing a cultural name to a simplified or commonly used name?

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What was the purpose of transitioning from “black and white” to “color” throughout the movie? Was it effective?

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Discuss the “wasting illness” and how it attributed to the deaths of countless Osage.

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What would you have done if you were Ernest? What would you have done if you were Mollie?

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In your opinion, who was the worst criminal?

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Why did the director conclude the movie with a production of “True Crime Stories”?

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Compare and contrast the movie to the book. Which did you prefer?

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Character List

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Current Reads

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Book Recommendations?

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