Trauma Informed Montessori with a focus on COVID by https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0 en-us 2021-08-05 17:13:23 UTC 2023-01-19 22:35:06 UTC hello@padlet.com Quote: What constitutes a traumatic event jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670229879 “Traumatic events are typically situations that are out of our control, beyond our usual experience, and cause us to feel as though our lives or the lives of others may be in danger,” says Adam D. Brown, PsyD, clinical assistant professor in the Department of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at NYU Langone and member of its Child Study Center."

https://nyulangone.org/news/trauma-children-during-covid-19-pandem


]]> 2021-08-05 17:22:26 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670229879 Quote: Could COVID be considered a traumatic event? jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670236000 “The COVID-19 pandemic certainly is an unusual, unexpected event that is causing many to worry and even panic."

-Dr. Brown

Children's reactions may be strongly influenced by the reactions of those around them as well as their exposure to media.

Reactions also vary depending on the child's "age, developmental level, degree of social support, and coping skills, among other factors." 

-Dr. Brown

https://nyulangone.org/news/trauma-children-during-covid-19-pandem

]]> 2021-08-05 17:30:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670236000 What caregivers can do to help jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670244953 The following list highlights ways we can help ease the burden children may be directly or indirectly experiencing during COVID or any other stress-inducing situation.

-Provide developmentally appropriate information
-Ask the child what they’ve heard or had questions about
-Be honest but brief in responses to questions
-Provide child-friendly language and concrete explanations
-Limit media
-Create opportunities to check-in regularly--can be informal
-Provide concrete reassurance about what you are doing currently and in the immediate future to keep them safe
-Label their feelings and provide validation
-Identify activities to help them soothe themselves
-Provide consistency as much as possible or tell the child about what changes they can expect
-Model healthy expression of emotion

https://nyulangone.org/news/trauma-children-during-covid-19-pandem


 
]]> 2021-08-05 17:41:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670244953 Impacts of trauma-related stress jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670249148 Stress brought on by trauma can be so severe that it interferes with a child’s daily life/ability to interact with others. It can also affect their cognitive development, physical and emotional wellbeing, and behavior.

As Montessorians, we look at the child's development holistically. By understanding the impacts of trauma, we can better assess a child's particular needs.

https://nyulangone.org/conditions/traumatic-stress-in-children




]]> 2021-08-05 17:47:16 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670249148 Typical Development vs. Developmental Trauma jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670251542 Children experiencing Typical Development are at ease--their process of development allows them to focus on cognition then later moves to relationships, regulation, and finally how to survive.

Children experiencing Developmental Trauma are under stress, therefore, their development focuses on survival. Because their emotional brain remains in a constant state of survival mode, their thinking brain is on airplane mode. This subconscious focus on survival leads to atypical development in other areas resulting in maladjustment, poor self-regulation, and difficulty making bonds. Cognition is the least of their concerns.

https://youtu.be/Rg-XwY3V91c


]]> 2021-08-05 17:50:48 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670251542 COVID events with potential to cause trauma jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670259586 -Anxiety and fear of contracting the virus or family member contracting the virus

-Public health instructions

-Measures for confinement

-Social and physical distancing

-Food insecurity

-Loss of jobs/financial stability


*children are at an increased risk of experiencing multiple traumatic experiences and complex trauma

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534660/



]]> 2021-08-05 18:02:32 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670259586 For some, at-home risks might be just as dangerous as the virus itself jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670263316 Many children are at greater risk of experiencing multiple traumas during lock-down.

Risks include:
-physical, sexual, and psychological violence
-physical and emotional neglect
-exposure to inter-parental violence
-social isolation
-household stressors and difficulties (e.g., alcoholism, drug addiction, and mental illness of a parent)
-increased social and financial precarity

I understood that quarantine would be trying for families due to the stress of social distancing, medical concerns, and job security, but I hadn't considered the potential threats children face being at home.

As teachers, we spend all day with children in an environment made for them. Our sole purpose is to care for them. We have no idea what home-life actually looks like for them. Particularly during this time, parents are focused on or struggling with so many other things. We can't be certain that children are at the top of their priority list. As best we can, we need to be observant of their needs as well as speak on their behalf if we suspect neglect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534660/



]]> 2021-08-05 18:07:07 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670263316 Helping a student with PTSD jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670264729 https://www.verywellfamily.com/ptsd-trauma-4685816#:~:text=Tips%20for%20Managing%20Traumatized%20Kids%20in%20the%20Classroom,Yourself.%20...%208%20A%20Word%20from%20Verywell.%20


]]> 2021-08-05 18:09:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670264729 Symptoms of a child experiencing trauma/PTSD jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670268134
  • Avoidance/Having trouble forming relationships with teachers due to lack of trust in others
  • Having poor self-regulation--need help to calm themselves and to manage their emotions
  • Struggling with executive functions--require predictability and planning
  • Engaging in negative thinking/don’t want to try in case they make a mistake, often appears as defiant/oppositional, blaming others or self, diminished interest in pleasurable activities--need to feel special, valued, and supported
  • Are hypervigilant--need help to name their feelings
  • Arousal/being on edge, being on the lookout, constantly being worried--need help self-soothing

    • https://www.verywellfamily.com/ptsd-trauma-4685816#:~:text=Tips%20for%20Managing%20Traumatized%20Kids%20in%20the%20Classroom,Yourself.%20...%208%20A%20Word%20from%20Verywell.%20

    https://traumaawareschools.org/impact



    ]]>     2021-08-05 18:13:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670268134     Tips for teachers jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670448500 -take a step back to get a full perspective of what’s going on-not just the behavior that's surfacing

    -find alternatives to "old school" discipline-focus on positive attention

    -be predictable

    -ask how you can help while remaining neutral/nonjudgmental ]]>     2021-08-05 23:15:31 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670448500     How to support children during COVID jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670453009
    Understand that reactions to the pandemic vary

    Ensure the presence of a sensitive and responsive caregiver

    Social distancing, not social isolation

    Provide age-appropriate information

    Provide reassurance, regulation, routines

    Remember boredom leaves extra space for worry-keep them busy with interesting and developmentally appropriate activities

    Increase children’s self-efficacy

    Emphasize strength, hope, and positivity

    https://www.childtrends.org/publications/resources-for-supporting-childrens-emotional-well-being-during-the-covid-19-pandemic



    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:23:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670453009     Classroom impacts jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670453554 Children with trauma exhibit various behavior in response to their experiences. In the classroom, this can surface in the form of impulse control issues, difficulty with self-regulation, critical thinking, retention, and memory, as well as challenges with physical and neurological development, emotional regulation, behavioral needs, social skills, and trust. Without support, these challenges can have lasting effects on the child.

    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:23:56 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670453554     Why Montessori is on the right path to support children experiencing trauma/PTSD jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670454645 The prepared environment is key to the Montessori Method. The following points are reasons why this method of education is beneficial to all children, specifically those with traumatic experiences.

    The environment is calm, uncluttered, visually peaceful

    The environment is sensory-rich

    There is an emphasis on movement

    External support/scaffolding is provided

    Routines and expectations are consistent

    Mindfulness is taught daily

    Intentional emotional awareness teaching is practiced

    Awareness of each child’s needs is considered in the classroom design

    Children experience felt safety

    Guides are calm and self-regulated

    Guides observe to see the true need behind the behavior

    Guides are observant and curious

    Guides understand "attention-seeking" as relationship/connection seeking

    There is open communication with parents

    Guides seek connection with good boundaries

    Lessons and expectations are developmentally appropriate

    By providing children with this type of environment to learn, we are able to meet their individual needs no matter what experiences they come to us with.

    https://youtu.be/Rg-XwY3V91c



    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:25:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670454645     Remember the 3 R's jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670455242 When responding to disruptive behavior-regulate, relate, reason.

    This technique is taught in our Montessori training but also in positive discipline courses. The goal is to help children internalize the process so that they can self-regulate.

    We can only begin to help children learn from their disruptive behaviors if they can be brought back to a state of regulation. This means we have to help the child recenter by calming their feelings of fight/flight/freeze. Then we relate to the child by ensuring they feel heard and understood through an attuned and sensitive connection. Then we can give them the tools to express their feelings and needs, reflect, remember, and become more self-assured.

    If instead, we are punitive when children are disruptive or combative, they don't learn to self-regulate but rather, become less regulated.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNuxy7FxEVk


    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:26:59 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670455242     Stress causes trauma jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670456772 There are three types of stress-positive, tolerable, and toxic. While positive stress and tolerable stress do not cause permanent damage, toxic stress has the capacity to overcome children's undeveloped coping mechanisms and lead to long-term issues.

    Toxic stress can occur when a child experiences strong, frequent, or prolonged adversity. This includes physical or emotional abuse, chronic neglect, caregiver substance abuse or mental illness, exposure to violence, or the accumulated burdens of family economic hardship.

    Scientists have drawn correlations between children's health and development (using the triad of Pediatric studies) and stress. We now know that children can be negatively impacted physically, mentally, emotionally, and socially by stress.

    The image above shows the relationship between the different areas of Pediatrics that doctors consider when assessing children's development. Their interconnections suggest that a disruption or stress in one area has negative impacts on the other areas, resulting in development issues.

    ttb_aces_consequences.pdf (aap.org)



    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:29:35 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670456772     Types of Trauma jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670457273 There are multiple types of trauma-acute, chronic, and historical.

    Acute trauma is generally short-lived, occurring at a particular place and time.

    Chronic trauma occurs repeatedly over a long period of time.

    Historical trauma is the cumulative experiences of a community across generations.

    Considering the various types of trauma, it is reasonable to believe that everyone experiences some form of trauma throughout their life. The impacts of trauma on a person's development, however, differ on the type they experience and how they are supported.

    https://safesupportivelearning.ed.gov/sites/default/files/03%20P2_Integrating%20Trauma-Sensitive%20Practices%20in%20Schools_10.15.15_to%20ED.pdf

    ]]>     2021-08-05 23:30:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1670457273     Short and Long Term Impacts of stress/trauma jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671255731 Children may experience short or long-term effects of stress/trauma.

    In the short term, children may experience anxiety, depression, PTSD, dissociation, depersonalization, and emotional dysregulation.

    In the long term, trauma can impact children physically, as well as cause social and intellectual development issues. In some cases, this may even lead to violent and risky behaviors i.e. self-harm.

    Complex trauma refers to children's exposure to multiple traumatic events and is wide-ranging, resulting in long-term effects. This type of trauma is associated with somatization symptoms-these are recurrent medical symptoms that have no discernible medical cause i.e. chronic stomachaches and headaches. In the long term, complex trauma impacts the brain and nervous system. It can lead to a weakened immune system and risks of high blood pressure, diabetes, cardiovascular problems, cancer, and premature death.

    Though short-term trauma can be more easily managed, the longer it goes undetected or untreated, the more likely it will have lasting effects. This is why it is so important for the child's caregivers (teachers included) to be in tune with the child's behavioral changes.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534660/

    https://www.nctsn.org/what-is-child-trauma/trauma-types/complex-trauma


    ]]>     2021-08-06 17:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671255731     My Voice: I wonder jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671386085 I wonder if children experiencing trauma show the same signs of entering Sensitive Periods as typically developing children. Because children experiencing trauma/PTSD are under stress, their brain's focus is survival, they have difficulty trusting, and often shy away from new experiences as to not make a mistake/be a burden. Is there also a difference in the way they express those Sensitive Period urges or do they express them at all?]]> 2021-08-06 22:02:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671386085 My Voice: Personal Experience Educating during COVID jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671390163 I think that it's safe to say that children have experienced some form of stress or trauma resulting from the initial quarantine period of COVID, if not the ongoing effects of the virus.

    In my observations, social isolation and the fear of contracting the virus have impacted the way children interact with others when the time finally came to come back to school. Some of my returning students seem warier of others than in previous years--unsure if their peers are safe to be around, avoiding group times because they haven't practiced socializing, and some having toileting issues long after independently handling those self-care tasks. Some new children, on the other hand, have never interacted with peers. I don't think that counts as trauma, but it certainly feels like a stunt in their development. 

    Since schools shut down, I have been particularly concerned about the children who knew life before COVID and how they are coping. One of our goals as teachers is to focus on the social and emotional well-being of the children, but it is particularly important during this very uncertain time. Children can't learn anything academic if they are not at rest and they won't be at rest unless they feel safe and supported. This is the importance of social-emotional health and why I am personally so happy to work at a Montessori school.]]>     2021-08-06 22:16:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671390163     My Voice: Trauma versus Other jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671394345 After researching the impacts trauma can have on children's behavior, I realized that many of the indicators could easily be observed as some singular issue. For example, I have worked with many children that needed extra support socializing with their peers, had difficulties with their executive functions, or were avoidant. I never thought to consider if there was a traumatic event in their current lives or past that could be contributing. I think it's because I didn't understand that trauma could be on a smaller scale-anything that puts the child in a state of fear or uncertainty. This is why it's so important to be in open communication with the child's caregiver--we need to know as much about the child as possible so that we can best support their needs. I plan to consider possible trauma in every future child study in the hopes of not missing red flags. ]]> 2021-08-06 22:30:10 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1671394345 My Voice: Supporting children the Montessori way jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672038019 All of the current classroom strategies for supporting traumatized children I've come across are practices that are already built into our prepared environment-physically, mentally, and emotionally. Our goal is to create an environment that can be adjusted to suit individual children and their experiences. We already set a peaceful tone by modeling grace and courtesy, using positive, respectful language, and reinforcing positive behavior. We ensure a sense of security by maintaining consistency, preparing the children for transitions and changes, and anticipating their responses. We encourage independence and self-sufficiency by teaching them the skills they need to handle tasks or situations on their own. We maintain our position in service to them by standing by in case they need further guidance. Montessori may have been the original trauma-informed education system.

    Thinking back to Montessori's first Children's House, all of her students had experienced prolonged hardships and historic trauma. She established a new way of schooling with this in mind--by incorporating strategies for adapting the environment to suit the children's needs, typically developing children or not.

    With consideration to trauma, I think it is of utmost importance for guides to be in a constant state of spiritual preparation. We have to uphold the lessons and values Montessori set by time and time again revisiting our limitations, preconceived notions, and inner biases so that we can best serve the children. All of the classroom strategies are for not if we don't look deeper at our imperfections. This will help us help the children become self-actualized humans.]]>     2021-08-08 13:25:57 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672038019     My Voice: How I'll Change My Own Practice jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672041719 With the understanding that not all caregivers will be upfront about the trauma their child might have experienced, I think it's crucial to treat every child with the same respect and care as if they had undergone a traumatic experience. We will never know a child's situation fully, but statics suggest that most children have endured stress-inducing if not traumatic experiences. The best way I know how to change my practice is to implement the strategies suggested in my research to ensure the best care for all children. I will consider trauma when looking at a child through case-studies. I will continuously observe and take note of their behaviors from a factual basis, but refer to trauma indicators to understand if there's a bigger issue at hand. If I notice indicators of stress or trauma, I will reach out to caregivers to ask them to share any recent or on-going events that might be stressful--a move to a new house, a change in their routine/after care, etc. ]]> 2021-08-08 13:36:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672041719 My Voice: Summation of My Research jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672041783 This topic is so personal to me because I became a first-year teacher the same year the pandemic hit. I grappled with personal fears and anxieties but also the fears and anxieties of my students and their families. I've learned that trauma comes in all shapes and sizes and that healing is not done alone. Just as stress and trauma surface in various ways, the ways in which people need support are also unique. Although COVID is a singular event that has impacted many facets of life, the strategies I've learned to help children during this time are applicable to supporting children experiencing any type of trauma. The techniques are far-reaching and beneficial to every child's experience. ]]> 2021-08-08 13:36:13 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672041783 Quotes from The Unspeakable Mind jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043769 “The personality formed in an environment of coercive control is not well adapted to adult life. The survivor is left with fundamental problems in basic trust, autonomy, and initiative.”

    -Judith Herman, Shaii Jan


    “Adverse childhood experiences are the main determinant of the health and social well-being of the nation.”

    -Shaii Jan

    The Unspeakable Mind: Stories of Trauma and Healing from the Frontlines of PTSD Science 2019

    I found these quotes to be very telling of the traumatized person's experience. The former shows the impacts of their experience on their adult personality--unable to make bonds, feel freedom, and unable to assess or initiate things independently. Coercive control is one type of trauma a person can experience, however, a child is never in control of their care. Being neglected or isolated or mistreated in any capacity is a type of control the caregiver forces on the child. Such events create hardened and maladjusted adults, which in turn cause greater harm to the well-being of society. The latter quote suggests the need to help all of those with trauma if we are to create more nurturing, healthy, and peaceful future generations.]]>     2021-08-08 13:42:12 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043769     Quote: Danielle Bernock jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043809 “Trauma is personal. It does not disappear if it is not validated. When it is ignored or invalidated the silent screams continue internally heard only by the one held captive. When someone enters the pain and hears the screams healing can begin.”
    ― Danielle Bernock, Emerging With Wings: A True Story of Lies, Pain, And The LOVE that Heals

    This quote is so powerful. It depicts the painful experience of someone who has been traumatized and not received the help they so desperately seek. The healing process cannot be done alone. ]]>     2021-08-08 13:42:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043809     Bibliography jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043971 https://nyulangone.org/news/trauma-children-during-covid-19-pandem

    https://nyulangone.org/conditions/traumatic-stress-in-children

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7534660/

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    https://traumaawareschools.org/impact

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    https://youtu.be/Rg-XwY3V91c

    ttb_aces_consequences.pdf (aap.org)

    https://safesupportivelearning.ed.gov/sites/default/files/03%20P2_Integrating%20Trauma-Sensitive%20Practices%20in%20Schools_10.15.15_to%20ED.pdf

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNuxy7FxEVk

    https://youtu.be/LNuxy7FxEVk 

    Danielle Bernock, 2014: Emerging With Wings: A True Story of Lies, Pain, And The LOVE that Heals


    Shaii Jan, 2019: The Unspeakable Mind: Stories of Trauma and Healing from the Frontlines of PTSD Science



    ]]>     2021-08-08 13:42:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672043971     Impacts on Teachers jordanroyaljr https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672063907 Teachers can be impacted by other's trauma. They can experience secondary PTSD after being indirectly exposed to a traumatic event or they can experience vicarious trauma which changes their inner experience over time due to their empathetic engagement with a traumatized person.

    It's painful to think about an individual suffering from trauma, but as teachers, empathy is what helps us understand and possibly relate to another's feelings so we can serve them. It's so important to have structures in place to help both the individual suffering as well as those trying to serve them. 

    https://safesupportivelearning.ed.gov/sites/default/files/03%20P2_Integrating%20Trauma-Sensitive%20Practices%20in%20Schools_10.15.15_to%20ED.pdf

    ]]>     2021-08-08 14:34:20 UTC https://padlet.com/jordanroyaljr/vnoqpiq7d98osof0/wish/1672063907