https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g Watch the TEDTALK video (Alex Honnold) before answering questions! POST COMMENTS ON AT LEAST THREE OTHER POSTS!!! en-us 2020-04-15 04:51:43 UTC 2020-04-30 15:04:47 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508644219 Krakauer and McCandless are similar in many ways, and that is part if the reason I think Krakauer was so drawn to Chris' story. First of all they both shared an affinity for nature an embarked onto soul finding journey's in the wilderness, McCandless into the Alaska bush, Krakauer's, "a mountain called the Devils Thumb(Krakauer 134)" and in doing so were appealed by the solitary nature of the trip and possible danger. Besides that obvious example of them being"kindred spirits, Krakauer goes on to note other critical similarities;" I[Krakauer] believe we were similarly affected by the skewed relationships we has with our fathers. And I suspect we had a similar intensity, a similar heedlessness, a similar agitation of the soul(Krakauer 155)". I think both were very passionate people who dove into something that was way over their heads, based in "hubris...and appalling  innocence (Krakauer 155). Both men were hoping that their respective adventures, would make them whole, or fix the wrongness in their lives, while it might've not directly impacted Krakauer's life, but perhaps it did in some, more subtle, ways, and had McCandless survived his trip perhaps the same would've been true for him.]]> 2020-04-15 14:41:09 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508644219 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508650816
I would describe McCandless' philosophical outlook as society harm's one's soul and the only way to truly understand to is to escape and become free through the beauty of nature and solitude. I would also say he is an extreme minimalist and connected to the Earth. I don't think that it would be a reasonable outlook for most people in the 21st century, but for McCandless, that is what he wanted to believe and he truly went all in, so I think that for him it did make sense. Most people can't escape and run away from society and live in the wilderness.]]> 2020-04-15 14:43:50 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508650816 epatton7320 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508881879 Krakuer and McCandless are similar in many ways which makes them "kindred spirits". In chapter fourteen when Krakauer tells us about his journey to Devils Thumb in Alaska, and how it was a dangerous climb. Krakauer states that "I was twenty-three, a year younger than Chris McCandless when he walked into the Alaska bush" (135). Him establishing this comparison between the two contributes to the irony of how Krakauer experienced a very similar experience, which made it intriguing for Krakauer to investigate. Another resemblance between the two is that they both never had adequate masculine figures and role models in their life. Krakauer claims that "I disappointed my father in the usual ways. Like McCandless, figures of male authority aroused in me a confusing medley of corked fury and hunger to please" (134). This comparison is significant because it shows how both men had the motivation and end-goal to prove their fathers/family wrong. ]]> 2020-04-15 16:14:30 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508881879 epatton7320 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508912108 Based off of Chris McCandless' notes and books, I think he had a very nonchalant attitude toward life, meaning that he believed you should "social distance" and "unplug". He believed that following the cultural customs and doing the same thing everyone else does is boring and pointless, hence why he set out to Alaska and completely changed who he was. I don't think his outlook is a very reasonable and suitable lifestyle for the 21st century because everyone's life is so busy all the time, and in general life is too busy to completely unplug and do something as extravagant as Chris did. ]]> 2020-04-15 16:27:16 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508912108 epatton7320 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508949817 Although Krakauer, Honnold, and McCandles have their differences between the different life-threatening journeys they went on, they are very similar in lots of ways. They all three originate from the idea of setting their mind to a goal and succeeding at it. Despite how scary and dangerous the journey may have been, they kept going because they had an intended goal to reach. Alex Honnold states in his speech that "doubt is the precursor of fear." This is a claim that is true for Krakauer and McCandless as well because they both had to survive off of very little, and doubt and fear could not be one of those. For example, Krakauer wonders what it "would feel like to be balance on that bladelike summit ridge, worrying over the storm clouds building in the distance . . . . could a person keep a lid on his terror long enough to reach the top and get back down?" (Krakauer 135). This conveys the same idea that Honnold was conveying, and that there is no time for fear to creep in during a journey as risky as what they were doing. Because of the journey's that these men went through, they are all very alike and similar in many ways. ]]> 2020-04-15 16:43:15 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/508949817 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509002633 I think they are all very much alike but had different outcomes. Honnold achieved what he wanted and felt very satisfied, Krakauer believed that "climbing the Devils Thumb would fix all that was wrong with [his] life" but in the end "it changed almost nothing(Krakauer 155)" and he did't seemed fulfilled with his trip, McCandless didn't make it out alive but from the pictures and his writings he seemed as though he was very happy and that he had found what he was looking for. All men seemed to be motivated by the unknown and thrill of accomplishing it on their own. All the men also seemed very set on their goals. Krakauer thought about "climbing the thumb so intensely for so long (Krakauer 152)" that any obstacles could not get in the way of trying to climb it, the same could be said for McCandless adventure into the wild, as well as Honnold's assent. ]]> 2020-04-15 17:06:04 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509002633 jmulvey4642 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509052832 Chris followed in the footsteps of the famous transcendentalist named Henry David Thoreau. He had a philosophical outlook that to be truly content with life you need to live off the land and learn to live completely independently . To not rely on society or rely on economic standards. Chris vied himself truly as apart of nature. Im not sure its reasonable in this century. So many places are already inhabited and being affected by humans its almost virtually impossible to find places that do not have human influence on them.]]> 2020-04-15 17:27:58 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509052832 jmulvey4642 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509091292 "But my sense of Chris McCandless’s intentions comes, too, from a more
personal perspective.
As a youth, I am told, I was willful, self-absorbed, intermittently reckless
moody. I disappointed my father in the usual ways. Like McCandless, figures of
male authority aroused in me a confusing medley of corked fury and hunger to
please. If something captured my undisciplined imagination, I pursued it with a
zeal bordering on obsession," PG 134

This comparison that the author shows tells us that he viewed himself very alike to chris. Both of their fathers were successful men that set them up and pushed them towards a normal career path in life. Both were obsessed with something that made them feel happy and alive. This caused them to rebel and pursue their dreams. Krakauer succeeded by climbing the devils thumb but dint not feel content. Chris succeeded in feeling content but sadly never came out of the wild.]]> 2020-04-15 17:46:15 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509091292 jmulvey4642 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509125973 When the adventure did
indeed prove fatal, this melodramatic declaration fueled considerable
speculation that the boy had been bent on suicide from the beginning, that when
he walked into the bush, he had no intention of ever walking out again. I’m not
so sure, however. PG 134

This quote is speaking on mcandless death and it could speak for anyone o these men if they were not successful. All three men are extreme adventurers and put their life on their line to achieve their dream. To do what makes them happy and feel whole even if it is dangerous. This quote speaks on what people thought about Chris when he died. This same thought may of been applied to both honnold and karakuer if they didnt succeed either. WE shouldn't see Chris as less than or an idiot because he did not succeed. These men followed their dreams to the end if even it meant sacrificing it all.]]> 2020-04-15 18:02:56 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509125973 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509146047 It is clear that both Krakauer and McCandless shared a deep appreciation for the outdoors, as well as the prospect of being able to 'get away' from the bustling, chaotic world they had grown up in. Similar to McCandless, Krakauer explains that in his youth, he "devoted most of [his] waking hours to fantasizing about...ascents of remote mountains in Alaska and Canada" (134). It seemed to Krakauer that climbing was his sole priority, and the thought of it was able to get him through work, school, and his problematic family. The idea of climbing Devil's Thumb was similar to McCandless's desire to live and venture in the Alaskan wilderness. ]]> 2020-04-15 18:13:04 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509146047 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509161752 While they were remarkably similar in their dangerous pursuits, Honnold was much more well informed and conscious of the risks that were truly involved in climbing. In his Ted Talk, Honnold discusses that previous to his ultimate climb of El Capitan, he spent years conditioning for such a task, as he, many times, climbed the wall with a rope, becoming familiar with the most efficient paths up to the peak. On the other hand, both Krakauer and McCandless seemed to have idealized versions of Alaska. Krakauer plans to climb the Devil's Thumb with no proper preparation, and fundamentally wings it. The Great North Wall "had never been climbed" and was "twice the height of Yosemite's El Capitan" (134-135). He decides to do it alone, and does so on a whim, as he quits his job in Boulder, Colorado, and leaves for Alaska. Similarly, McCandless brings almost nothing on his trip into the Alaskan wilderness, relying solely on his sparse experience with the harsh climate of Alaska. ]]> 2020-04-15 18:21:23 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509161752 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509191914 McCandless avidly resented many trends of modern living, particularly consumerism and distancing from self sustainability. He felt that he could not partake in such a lifestyle without feeling restless and unsatisfied. While this may not be a reasonable outlook for most, McCandless had the drive and privilege to leave and find himself in the wilderness. For the majority of people, living in a bus in the Alaskan woods is not appealing in any sense, however, it is possible, despite how unconventional it is. ]]> 2020-04-15 18:33:29 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509191914 gkerr7158 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509428070 Both McCandless and Krakauer  have a desire to feel freedom from their pasts. They want to be able to be on their own and it comes from the treatment from their father. They wanted to get away and pursue the adventure inside them. Krakauer  says "I believe we were similarly affected by the skewed relationships we has with our fathers. And I suspect we had a similar intensity, a similar heedlessness, a similar agitation of the soul" (Krakauer 155). They both went to Alaska and even though they went to different places,  they both had the same idea that taking on these adventures "would fix all that was wrong with [their lives]" (Krakauer 155). ]]> 2020-04-15 20:59:46 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509428070 gkerr7158 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509534720 I think that the largest difference between the three of them is their approach to the adventure they chose to take. Honnold planning and preparing for literally years, Krakauer going to climb a mountain on a whim, and McCandless who set out into the Alaskan terrain with very little preparation. On the other hand they are very similar in the way that they wanted the adventures they took on tp change their life and hold a great meaning. Krakauer says he thought similarly to McCandless when he thought that his hike ""would fix all that was wrong with [his] life" he acknowledges that he was looking to better himself just like Chris was (Krakauer 155). Honnold was also trying to better himself and find that fulfillment that is a common thread in most people that go searching the wild. They want something more than the life they are given, whether it is an affluent home or not, they want to get away from the realm or normal, possible lifestyles. Honnold did the impossible, Chris tried, and Krakauer escaped normality as well. ]]> 2020-04-15 22:38:00 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509534720 cmease7190 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509642128 John Krakauer and Chris McCandless are kindred spirits in many ways. In multiple instances, I was shocked by how much the two resembled one another. A passage that shows the similarities between the two is "As a youth, I am told, I was willful, self-absorbed, intermittently reckless, moody. I disappointed my father in the usual ways. Like McCandless, figures of male authority aroused in me a confusing medley of corked fury and hunger to please. If something captured my undisciplined imagination, I pursued it with a zeal bordering on obsession, and from the age of seventeen until my late twenties that something was mountain climbing" (134). Many of the words used to describe Krakauer also resembled McCandless; "self-absorbed", "moody". Also, Krakauer describes how he disappointed his father, Chris doing the same by not pursuing graduate school. The two also both obsessed in what they believed and loved. ]]> 2020-04-16 00:40:05 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509642128 cmease7190 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509667032 Although Krakauer, Honnold, and McCandless resemble each other considering their love for nature and their desire to pursue their respective wishes, the three have some major differences. Honnold stated in his TedTalk that after finally reaching the summit of  the Great North Wall, he felt fulfilled and overjoyed, and almost as if his life wishes were complete. Honnold also trained for many months and even years ahead of time before attempting the total climb of the mountain. McCandless was viewed to have a similar sense of joy from his adventures, however he was not prepared at all for what awaited him, with many of the people who Chris hitch hiked with giving him supplies and/or food out of worry for his preparedness; "Before departing, Franz gave McCandless a machete, an arctic parka, a collapsible fishing pole, and some other gear for his Alaska undertaking" (54). Krakauer also differs from Hannold in this way because he is ill-prepared. He explains his line of reasoning (which may not be very strong) in this passage: "I carried no rope, no tent or bivouac gear, no hardware save my ice axes. My plan was to go light and fast(...)" (152). The three may be cut from the same cloth, but each piece has a unique pattern. ]]> 2020-04-16 01:06:23 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509667032 cmease7190 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509689050 Chris had strong viewpoints that mimicked those of philosopher Henry David Thoreau. Thoreau lived throughout the 1800s and even in that time, his ideologies were viewed as extreme and radical. Chris believed that in order to reach happiness, one must live 'off the grid' with the bare minimum, only obtaining the essentials (which he clearly didn't have enough of). McCandless's outlook is not reasonable for life in the 21st century, and if it was we would see more people living by these standards today. Also, Chris and his ideas were described as detached and different than most others, which shows how his ideas are not reasonable by today's standards.]]> 2020-04-16 01:28:30 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509689050 gkerr7158 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509720669 Chris based a lot of his thought processes on the readings of Thoreau. He looked at society's version of life as a fake world, and he thought the only way to truly live is to be alone and without. He was very minimalistic in what he valued and you can see this in what he carried with him. I think that not a lot of people have this view in the 21st century, but that does it mean it is not reasonable, because it is the 21st century so if you want to have that life philosophy than go for it!! And although this mindset lead McCandless to his death, he died the happier than he would have been living life that was miserable according to him. ]]> 2020-04-16 02:01:54 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/509720669 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/510906136 When I found out how much Krakauer and McCandless were alike, I was very surprised. I never really would've expected for Krakauer to include some of his own personal life into a book about someone who shared the same type of feelings and admiration. Both Krakauer and McCandless' fathers weren't the best role models for them which is what makes them have such a strong connection. On page 134, it says "as a youth, I am told, I was willful, self-absorbed, intermittently reckless, moody. I disappointed my father in the usual ways. Like McCandless, figures of male authority aroused in me a confusing medley of corked fury and hunger to please. [...]." ]]> 2020-04-16 15:00:49 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/510906136 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/510931354 Although Krakauer, Honnold, and McCandless share different ways that they embark on journeys and the different ways they handle things, they all share the love for the great outdoors and a good adventure, even if their adventures aren't necessarily the same. They each had similar things they were trying to conquer, but Honnold was really the only successful one. He climbed El Capo and conquered his dreams. Krakauer alliterates that "as a young man, I was unlike McCandless in many important regards; most notably, I possessed neither his intellect nor his lofty ideals." (page 155). Despite their differences, they both had a hearty connection to each other. Everyone has differences, but everyone also has similarities to each other.

]]> 2020-04-16 15:10:10 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/510931354 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511009955 Based on notes and books related to McCandless, I think he had a very calm, cool, and collected demeanor. He looked through a lens that allowed him to have a certain perspective on society and life as a whole. He thought the best way to deal with all the "fakeness" was to just be on his own in the middle of no where. McCandless was, in a way, representing Thoreau by his values he lives by. He was kind of like the 21st century Thoreau. They both idolized the same aspects on life and how you should live it. ]]> 2020-04-16 15:39:23 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511009955 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511266209 Both McCandless and Krakauer are kindred sprites through the fact that they both went on adventurers at about the same age to escape from society and find themselves. 
"But my sense of Chris McCandless's intentions comes, too, form a more personal perspective. . . Like McCandless. . . If something captured my undisciplined imagination I pursed it with a zeal bordering on obsession.

]]> 2020-04-16 17:26:27 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511266209 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511290162 McCandless had a philosophy similar to Thoreau in the idea that in order to find yourselves and find true happiness you have to leave society behind and crave your own path. This is not reasonable for the fact that in today's society we are so connected through socail media and such it would be extremely hard to do what McCandless did. ]]> 2020-04-16 17:37:47 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511290162 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511345031 The primary difference between the three was that McCandless went with no specific mission. Where as Krakauer and Honnold did it with a specific mission in mind. All three are a like though in the fact that they all set off to do thinks that others thought were insane. 
" The thumb is especially imposing from the north: Its great north wall, which had never climbed." ]]> 2020-04-16 18:05:15 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/511345031 tdodson2621 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513108369 Chris McCandless and John Krakauer are very similar. They both had an 'into the wild' experience, that resulted from their troubled childhood.   Krauker writes "I believe we were similarly affected by the skewed relationships we has with our fathers". This troubled experience resulted in an adventurous and crazy experience. ]]> 2020-04-17 15:18:03 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513108369 tdodson2621 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513135677 Chris McCandless, John Krakauer, and Alex Honnald are very similar. They all had an 'into the wild' adventurous experience. Although they turned out very different, these experiences helped define who they are.  When comparing himself to McCandless, Krakuker says we had  "a similar heedlessness, a similar agitation of the soul" (Krakauer 155). Krauker believes he and McCandless are alike because of their adventurous experience. Alex Honnald no doubt has this adventurous experience and out look as well. ]]> 2020-04-17 15:29:12 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513135677 tdodson2621 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513161356 Chris McCandless had a very simple outlook on life. He does not value physical possessions or digital connection. He left the connected stereotypical world and ventured 'into the wild'. His outlook is very different than most peoples outlooks on life. I believe we need more McCandless style philosophies in the 20th century. We are ever connected and attached to physical possessions. While Chris McCandless may have taken this to the extreme, a little bit more of his thought processes would help society. ]]> 2020-04-17 15:39:56 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513161356 cmosby1709 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513433263 They are kindred spirits because they both feel the calling that their true goal or achievement in life is not tied with what society expects of them. McCandless felt that his true achievement in life was to venture out and do this specific amount of time in nature in order to be able to fulfill a whole in his heart. Krakauer felt that his one tru achievement was not to go to medical school like his father wanted him to but instread was to climb Devil's Thumb shoiwn by, "I thought climbing the Devil's THumb would fix all that was wrong with my life." (Krakauer 155)]]> 2020-04-17 17:48:22 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513433263 cmosby1709 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513440851 They all have the same calling and feeling of the need to go into nature and prove themselves for themselves. They all expected to finish their achievement and then head back into 'normal' society, Alex Honnold would go back to living in his van and riding around the country finding new climbs and still healping the world through his organization, McCandless wanted returnfrom Alaska and even if he wouldn't have fully aclimated to normal society he still was going to contact those he met. Lralauer on teh other hand, didn't know what to do after he returned, he truly felt climbing the Devil's Thumb was pinnacle of his achievements, well atleast during the time, and was torn down by the pwople's responses "The people I chatted with in Kito's didn't seems to doubt that I'd been to the top of the Thumb; they just didn't care." (KRakauer 154) Honnold and Krakauer ahd the most skill and expertise in their achievements, but McCandless and Krakauer acvted upon their hurbris in their actions while Honnolds 'hubris' was just the confidence he needed to go forward after years of training specifically for it.]]> 2020-04-17 17:52:40 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513440851 cmosby1709 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513452842 Chris' philospohical outlook is one of personal achievements, he isn't doing it to leave a perfect record but instead is doing it as a way to keep himself sane and to roganize his thoughts and stay coherent. Like with the moose eh found a way to relate to it by reading Walden, then in his own journal states how it was a bad idea to kill the moose without being properly prepared to handle it and store its meat. It is reasonable for lifge today, because in his own situation he had no direct connection to civilization, it may have been close but he was not planning to stay in communiaction with modern society, if you're only focusing on youself and your own achievements, than what society thinks doesn't matter as long as you're keeping yourself happy durting and after you're endeavor.]]> 2020-04-17 17:59:14 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/513452842 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514569693 Krakauer and Chris are kindred spirits in the sense that they both had a deep connection with the outdoors and a thirst for adventure. In chapter 14 Krakauer talks about his climbing experience, and that immediately connects him with McCandless in that they both have a certain spontaneity that drives them. They both as well also have a strained relationship with their parents primarily their fathers which makes the reader wonder if he felt a certain connection with Chris McCandless’s story and chose to focus on it due to those reasons.]]> 2020-04-18 17:38:02 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514569693 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514576202 McCandless, Krakauer and Honnold are definitely alike as they both choose to embark on dangerous adventures due to a certain drive within them. Krakauer and Honnold Both attempted to climb strenuous mountains just in different ways. They all had a fascination with nature and chose to do dangerous tasks in it, they just had different ways of doing it. ]]> 2020-04-18 17:45:17 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514576202 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514799776 Chris McCandless’s Philosophy could be described as transcendentalist and spiritual. Chris McCandless believes that in order to live right you must be self-reliant and in tune with nature. I think that this could be not necessarily ideal but understandable in the 21st-century. Nowadays people are a lot more open minded but a lot of people could be considered materialistic or idealistic. His philosophies could be excepted most definitely, but not necessarily widely practiced.]]> 2020-04-18 23:24:32 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514799776 rreyes2512 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514820082 Krakauer and McCandless had much in common in terms of their beginnings, and it is partially why they share some similar ambitions. With the author's first description of himself, we can already compare him to McCandless, as he did indeed seem to his family "willful, self-absorbed, intermittently reckless, [and] moody" (Krakauer 134). Both Krakauer and McCandless seek immersion in the wild, especially when there is the promise of danger, for its power to make every detail "stand out in brilliant relief" and "[make the world] real" (Krakauer 134). Both men embarked on their journey alone.]]> 2020-04-19 00:21:46 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514820082 rreyes2512 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514839493 Though they had similarities, there are differences between the three. One I can point out is that unlike Honnold and McCandless, Krakauer was not able to achieve a lasting level of satisfaction from his achievement, coming to the conclusion that the wild is a "poor [receptacle] for dreams" (Krakauer 155). Unlike McCandless and Krakauer, Honnold did not seek to "fix all that was wrong with [his] life," but rather to achieve mastery at something he liked for his own fulfillment. It was not some escapade into the solitude of the wilderness, either. Unlike Honnold and Krakauer, McCandless did not climb a mountain, and he set out with less expertise than either of them, equipped with "experience that made him confident he could ... survive [a] stay in the Alaska wilderness" (Krakauer 162).]]> 2020-04-19 01:18:20 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/514839493 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515701524 John Krakauer and Chris McCandless are obviously connected to being with nature. They both love the idea of leaving society behind and gaining new perspective. "pg.134" they are determined to devote their lives to doing good by being outdoors. ]]> 2020-04-19 17:23:23 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515701524 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515707285 They have a similar way of thinking, even if the outcome is different. "climbing the devils thumb would fix all that was wrong in [his] life"155. Although the differences tend to be focused on, Chris should not be critiqued for following his dream as the other men did as well. ]]> 2020-04-19 17:27:38 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515707285 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515715179 He lives his life independently, never to rely on others. This making him more aware of the world and teaching people that the only way to truly know oneself is to live off the grid with zero expectations or pressure. In the 21st century, with technology on a high rise society is attempting to focus on mental health and minimalism. Taking breaks from constant overstimulating devices. ]]> 2020-04-19 17:32:58 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515715179 rreyes2512 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515766947 Chris had idealistic dreams and high standards for people (including himself) to uphold. His vision of the wild was glorified and based on writings from people who were not always perfect themselves. He favored the idea of solitude, and alongside that, its ability to lead people "inward" to find themselves. It is as if going into the wild is a method of self cleansing from the imperfections of society. I wouldn't say this is completely unreasonable today, as there are still places you can find that are uninhabited where you can get some peace as Chris was able to.]]> 2020-04-19 18:10:17 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515766947 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515786426 Krakauer and McCandless are both very in touch with nature and wanted to be more available and malleable so that the could form their own lives within the realm of nature. Both of them spent a good amount of time outdoors and let it be a large consumption of their lives. The relationship between the two shows the reasoning behind why Krakauer wrote about McCandless in such a passionate manner. He saw their similarities and took a large interest in him and that it one reason why the writing is so detailed and flows together so well. "And I suspect we had a similar intensity, a similar heedlessness, a similar agitation of the soul." (Krakauer 155)]]> 2020-04-19 18:25:24 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515786426 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515796441 I feel that the three are similar in respect to their love of the outdoors, but the reasoning behind much of their journeys as well a the outcomes are quite different. I think that all three men wanted to push their bodies to the absolute maximum limits and show themselves that they could in fact do what many others could never even imagine. I also think that a lot of this idea came from their love for adventure. But, Honnold was from a lot less of a broken past, and had more ambition pushed by self-ambition rather than a changing of narrative. "I thought that climbing the Devil's thumb would fix all that was wrong in my life. In the end, of course, it changed almost nothing." (Krakauer 155)]]> 2020-04-19 18:33:19 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515796441 pjordan5400 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515801443 Krakaur and McCandless share the same attitudes in many aspects of their lives. Krakaur describes the world as being "suddenly rich with opportunity" (136) after he quit his job and hit the road. This is very similar to when McCandless ditched his car and belongings to to go find more adventures and opportunities in life. They both want freedom and to be able to go on adventures and experience new challenges]]> 2020-04-19 18:37:09 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515801443 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515810061 Chris had a very minimalist outlook on life. He believed that full self discovery involved letting go of everything else around you, separating from society as a whole. This does not fit with what we look for today, he was a very odd egg in terms of resolving personal conflict. this idea that he had pretty much went against everything that modern society states. There is passion and peace in having items and capital for many, he was just living on a different plane of thought from the rest of us. ]]> 2020-04-19 18:43:22 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/515810061 pjordan5400 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516024255 Chris is a very carefree person. He thinks that if he believes in things and is patient, he will achieve all of his goals in life. This is not reasonable for life in the 21st century because people can't just go around and do whatever they want. People have responsibilities that they need to uphold in order to make society function. Also, Chris believes in being self sufficient. He doesn't think he needs anyone's help (even though the reason he got to Alaska is from hitchhiking). This is not reasonable because human interaction is necessary for a person to live.]]> 2020-04-19 21:45:22 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516024255 pjordan5400 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516041215 While the three of them may be stubborn and independent, they are not cut from the same cloth. McCandless went into the wild without studying the land or doing any physical or mental preparation in the beginning. This is ultimately what killed him. Krakauer ultimately realized that climbing Devil's Thumb would not "fix all that was wrong in [his] life" (155) and decided to leave his childish dreams behind and save his life. Honnold may seem crazy for free soloing but he has been training for YEARS, around 20 to be exact. This is what separates him from McCandless and Krakauer.
"It is easy, when you are young, to believe that what you desire is no less than what you deserve, to assume that if you want something badly enough, it is your God-given right to have it...I was a raw youth who mistook passion for insight and acted according to an obscure, gap-ridden logic." (Krakauer 155)]]> 2020-04-19 22:05:05 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516041215 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516125587 "The fact that I survived my Alaska adventure and McCandless did not survive his was largely a matter of chance." Pg. 155. Krakauer goes on to describe how people would talk about him, if he had died, in the same way they talk about McCandless. This hunger for foolhardy adventure lives in both of these men.]]> 2020-04-19 23:50:54 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516125587 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516129718 I think the main difference between the three is why they trek into the wild. Honnold's adventure is specific to climbing. Krakauer also enjoyed climbing but he was there for exploration. McCandless's goal was to escape society. "and from the age of seventeen until my late twenties that something was mountain climbing." Pg. 134]]> 2020-04-19 23:55:54 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516129718 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516179691 Krakauer and McCandless are alike in that they both appreciated the power of nature. They both turned to nature to help them to find theirself. ]]> 2020-04-20 00:47:27 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516179691 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516186629 They're all pretty similar as they all went into the wild.]]> 2020-04-20 00:54:03 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516186629 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516190388 Chris doesn't seem very responsible. after all he went into nature unprepared and dies.]]> 2020-04-20 00:57:53 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516190388 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516212752 No! I love Chris's lifestyle. I think it is absolutely fantastic!... for him! This is not the cookie cutter recipe for happiness for all humans. I think there are definitely degrees of this lifestyle. Chris's version of it is definitely closer to the extreme side of things. It makes him happy and that's great but it doesn't mean it would make everyone happy.]]> 2020-04-20 01:18:58 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516212752 sgrayson9663 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516219029 Krakauer and McCandless are alike in the sense that they both appreciate nature. "They are determined to devote their lives to doing good by being outdoors" Pg. 134. This shows how they can connect with each other on the idea of living off the land and learning from nature.]]> 2020-04-20 01:24:53 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516219029 sgrayson9663 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516239241 They're alike because they all seek nature as a way to discover themselves. and yet they're different because of what they're actually got out of their experiences with nature. They all have different reasons for wanting to push themselves and risk their lives out in nature. "I thought that climbing the Devil's thumb would fix all that was wrong in my life. In the end, of course, it changed almost nothing." Pg 155.]]> 2020-04-20 01:43:11 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516239241 sgrayson9663 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516264517 I think that McCandless outlook is simplistic and not materialistic. He cares about personal experiences and self improvement more than anything else. I don't really think it's reasonable now because people live more from their phones and don't really see nature as a way to get away and learn about yourself.]]> 2020-04-20 02:07:34 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/516264517 lmcdougald8714 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/518519393 They are pretty similar in their drive to be isolated in specific sort of ways, but i think Alex has a different drive, not because he wants to be alone but because it is more scary to him (at least for when he was little) to ask someone to be his climbing buddy that=n it is to just go free soloing.]]> 2020-04-20 19:34:06 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/518519393 lmcdougald8714 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/518524389 Chris is a care free soul, he seems to do as he pleases but as long as he isn't in others way. This is different from now because there are obstacles and barriers that keep people from doing these crazy things, such as jobs families etc....]]> 2020-04-20 19:36:37 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/518524389 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529371980 they both enjoyed the great outdoors and exploring and just living life to the fullest]]> 2020-04-24 21:45:16 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529371980 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529372860 They're all pretty similar, although Honnold is less adventerous]]> 2020-04-24 21:45:50 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529372860 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529373543 he just vibin]]> 2020-04-24 21:46:30 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/529373543 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542168805 Both Krakauer and McCanddles shared a deep appreciation and fascination with the outdoors. They both acted in similar fashions when faced with traditional societal constraints. They both discuss connections of living off of the land and getting in touch with the outdoors. ]]> 2020-04-30 14:48:34 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542168805 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542199007 I think that its very interesting to see the three generations of people that don't fit in with traditional society and have completely different definitions of success and fulfillment. You see that as the world becomes more modernized people have to seek out more and more dangerous activity to seek this type of euphoria. I believe that Alex may have some certain shared character traits but also seems to have another level of mental specialty. ]]> 2020-04-30 14:57:44 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542199007 https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542215289 I don't think it is a life that can be defined as reasonable or unreasonable. I believe that Chris and many others will seek out unorthodox ways of gratification and fulfillment due to their complicated or traumatic past or major events in their lives. ]]> 2020-04-30 15:02:41 UTC https://padlet.com/daniel_clare/vjm4eaxmv3w5t90g/wish/542215289