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P. 8 Socratics by https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx en-us 2018-05-25 18:37:05 UTC 2025-11-22 16:08:51 UTC hello@padlet.com zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715370 Yeah I agree with Sarah, an obsession only occurs after the only thing you can think about is that obsession.]]> 2018-05-25 18:42:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715370 brandonsza1186 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715467 I would agree that Victor got so addicted in his monster that other things in life were not important to him anymore. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:42:52 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715467 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715476 A situation becomes an obsession when the person devotes so much time to a certain thing that they start to damage relationships around them ]]> 2018-05-25 18:42:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715476 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715489 I agree with Sarah that Macbeth was obsessed with being powerful, which led him to kill many people.]]> 2018-05-25 18:43:00 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715489 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715541 Obsessions were found in multiple instances throughout Frankenstein: when Victor was originally creating the monster, when the monster decided to pursue Victor in order to try and make Victor's life miserable by killing Victor's loved ones, and by the way that Victor pursued the monster to kill him with the same vitality that he had when originally creating the monster. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:43:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715541 lexisric1181 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715576 I agree with Sarah, the obsession increased over time for Victor. You can only think about it.]]> 2018-05-25 18:43:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715576 abigailmee3019 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715648 A situation becomes an obsession when is when you sacrifice your normal life in order to do whatever it is you're doing.]]> 2018-05-25 18:43:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715648 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715687 Like Jimmy said, a situation becomes an obsession when your behavior impacts your life and others around you. It becomes an obsession when your behavior becomes irrational and unusual]]> 2018-05-25 18:43:57 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715687 haleyjon5450 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715723 I think when you are so obsessed with the obsession that that is the only thing you can think about where you forget about all the people you love, that is when it is irrational. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:44:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715723 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715772 I agree with Alaina, and obsession is something that consumes your thoughts and could affect your actions.]]> 2018-05-25 18:44:23 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715772 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715779 Victor becomes obsessed because he starts focusing too much on something that he forgets his normal life activities and other things that are important in his life.]]> 2018-05-25 18:44:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715779 alexisall1138 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715822 I agree with Jimmy that an obsession begins once someone starts acting irrationally. He offers a good analogy of stalking too and how in Frankenstein, Victor became so obsessed with creating new life that he deprived himself of sleep and food. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:44:34 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715822 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715920 Alaina had a very good connection to Frankenstein in the way when William talked about how Victor is his father, it reignited the flame of anger and vengeance within the monster that caused him to act irrationally and kill a child. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:44:56 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715920 christophermor1902 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715938 Macbeth was clearly more than just interested in power, he was most definitely obsessed with it, as shown by his constant murder and sending hits to keep the throne. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263715938 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716011 I agree with jimmy an obsession occurs when it leads to irrationality because Victor's obsession with science led him to irrationally create life without thinking of the consequences. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716011 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716025 I think that the family in the cabin was an obsession because, as said earlier, the family consumed his thoughts and he was constantly watching them.]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:23 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716025 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716108 Victor and Macbeth are related, but I think Macbeth is more severe, because he went all out to kill the king, and he didn't really go back to his normal lifestyle and character.]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:46 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716108 abigailmee3019 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716120 The monster watching the family was not an obsession because he was trying to learn the ways of life .]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716120 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716138 In response to Sami, there is a significant difference from obsession and routine, for an obsession it is something that you hold deeply, and that routine is something you must do, a part of your daily life.]]> 2018-05-25 18:45:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716138 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716322 I agree with Daniel, I don't think the monster watching the people was an obsession, it was simply curiosity. He was watching them to learn how they lived and functioned, so he could live like them also because no one taught him]]> 2018-05-25 18:46:46 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716322 davidbog7001 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716415 I think the monster was not obsessed with the family, more like he was obsessed with the idea of being able to end his loneliness. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:47:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716415 janlak2140 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716439 I think that these obsessions are caused by deeper mental problems, which are only triggered by their curiosity. Victor was clearly obsessed, but I think it was a product of his own mental health]]> 2018-05-25 18:47:16 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716439 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716515 I feel that the Monster developed an obsession when he was watching the people in the cottage. The monster was curious about the actions the people in the cottage. He was curious for knowledge and information he wanted to learn.]]> 2018-05-25 18:47:34 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716515 haleyjon5450 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716530 I agree with Jimmy that curiosity leads to obsession, this was shown a lot through Frankenstein when Victor was so obsessed with trying to create life that he stopped doing things that were essential to his life.]]> 2018-05-25 18:47:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716530 lexisric1181 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716535 Curiosity is the starting stages of obsession. As like Victor, He was curious about knowledge and the things he did not know. He soon researched and became obsessed with creating this life and creature. The obsession developed over time and started with the basics of curiosity. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:47:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716535 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716726 I agree with Jimmy's point, and it seems realistic, because once curiosity goes too far, it can immediately alter one's mindset and gets them addicted to what they're doing. In this case, Victor was just curious about the lightning strike, which then led him too consumed by knowledge.]]> 2018-05-25 18:48:27 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716726 christophermor1902 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716766 You have to be curious about something you are obsessed with, but you don't have to be obsessed with something you're curious about.]]> 2018-05-25 18:48:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716766 saipou8029 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716797 Obsession causes people to go out of control when they focus too much on the outside part of their wants, and not analyzing the consequences that result from the obsession.]]> 2018-05-25 18:48:41 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716797 alexisall1138 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716920 I think Matthew makes a good point at how someone becomes so obsessed that they do irrational things. For example, Macbeth became obsessed with having power, so he acted and thought irrationally by killing anyone who "threatened" him being king. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:49:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716920 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716950 Curiosity can lead to obsession, but in itself is not considered obsession. Curiosity is the desire to learn, whereas an obsession consumes your thoughts and impacts your life]]> 2018-05-25 18:49:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263716950 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717133 The idea that curiosity can lead to obsession is found within Victor's story by the way that natural philosophy ignited an interest in his life and as Matthew said, that curiosity caused him to begin to pursue that subject relentlessly, giving up other passions to follow his obsession. In addition, Victor tried to prevent Robert Walton from following in his own footsteps as present in the way that Victor said “Learn from me, if not by my precepts, at least by my example, how dangerous is the acquirement of knowledge and how much happier that man is who believes his native town to be the world, than he who aspires to become greater than his nature will allow" (Shelley 31). Victor noticed a passion and ardent desire to have his voyage make himself "famous" and well-known among other people for new discoveries. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717133 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717143 Macbeth's obsession for power would ultimately lead to his own demise, because the prophecies of the witches make Macbeth and Lady Macbeth to continue their crimes in desire for power and advancement. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717143 anthonyste2957 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717146 Obsession can lead to curiosity which an idea can go to the extreme and to what extent they want it at.]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717146 brandonsza1186 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717156 I think obsessions can also change someones social ability because when someone is so interested in something they forget about the other things they have in life. Like Victor did when he spent two years creating a monster. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717156 janlak2140 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717201 I think that addictions is different than obsession, because an obsession is a extreme fascination, but addiction is like a dependence on something else.]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717201 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717253 Maddie, do you think that obsessions lead to negative or positive outcomes? or is this dependent on the situation?]]> 2018-05-25 18:50:37 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717253 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717541 I think it's dependent on the situation and how the person handles their behavior. Their obsession could lead to irrational behavior, and then could cause negative outcomes @zohaib]]> 2018-05-25 18:51:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717541 davidalv4919 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717579 A connection to mental disorders is a very good one never thought of the idea that some of the characters ^weve discussed could have one]]> 2018-05-25 18:51:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717579 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717615 I agree with Jimmy, I believe that an addiction can be an obsession, but an obsession can not be an addiction.]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:06 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717615 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717629 I believe that an addiction is the necessity or need of something, when an obsession is when you have an interest in something and wants to learn it. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:11 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717629 johncas7159 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717652 Obsessions are caused because the person wants to feel the positive outcome over and over and will never get old]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717652 lexisric1181 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717683 I think fear can cause obsession. I don't think obsession can cause fear. Victor had a fear of the monster, which soon became an obsession to him. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717683 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717699 I agree with Jan an addiction is when someone is dependent on something not necessarily just interested in it ]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:27 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717699 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717710 addictions are actually just things that you bond with because you haven't anything else to bond with, e.g. the lonely drunk]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:30 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717710 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717776 Continuing what Matthew said, there are certain disorders such as panic disorder that involve a high level of fear that causes someone to potentially avoid certain situations that could cause another panic attack. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:52:44 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717776 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717954 I think that obsession can drive human behavior, but I don't think it is the main factor. Not everyone has an obsession, so it does not influence everyone.]]> 2018-05-25 18:53:28 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263717954 saipou8029 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718007 Going off of Rohan, addiction is something that you constantly need to make you satisfied. It doesn't mean that you are into it.]]> 2018-05-25 18:53:36 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718007 haleyjon5450 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718150 I do think obsession can drive human behavior, for Macbeth's case he was so obsessed with all the prophesies and wanting to be king that he ended up letting that drive what he does which was killing Duncan and many other innocent people. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:54:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718150 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718230 I think that Obsession definetely drives human behavior because everything you do in then devoted towards the progress of that obsession which can prove that obsession is one of the factors that affect human behavior, in the long and short terms.]]> 2018-05-25 18:54:28 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718230 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718338 Continuing with what Sarah said, irrationality can be a byproduct of obsessions due to the way that an obsession causes someone to be unable to focus on other ways of perceiving a situation that others may see. This causes a person to continue to pursue their own desires with little to no understanding of what other people may thinking.]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718338 brandonsza1186 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718342 I agree with Sami and Daniel that Macbeth was obsessed with power so he kept killing to gain more. ]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:02 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718342 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718384 Irrationality is when you act outside your personal morals ]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718384 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718386 I agree with Sami, because it wasn't just the ambition to get king, but it also has to do with his obsession. He became obsessed with the witches prophecies, which caused him to think a lot about it.]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718386 jeremiahmal1822 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718411 To go back with Matthew said I completely agree that obsession can come from a person's fear like the rabbit in Winnie the pooh who had OCD and would constantly ask the same question to make sure nothing bad would happen]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718411 johncas7159 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718425 Obsession definitely drives human behavior to reach what they want to achieve and wont give up until they reach fulfillment ]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718425 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718452 Irrational behavior can be anything that wouldn't be done under normal circumstances. It can be harmful to yourself and others, and can greatly impact your current situation]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:30 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718452 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718462 A person that is acting irrational would create irrational or bad decisions for his/herself ]]> 2018-05-25 18:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718462 jeremiahmal1822 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718624 Irrational behavior would be going against better judgement or being careless]]> 2018-05-25 18:56:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718624 janlak2140 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718642 I think that Victor's obsession with obtaining knowledge wasn't the main driving force of his behavior. I believe that it is a smaller part of human behavior because it is the underlying feeling that lead to obsession that drive our behaviors as well, rather than the behaviors themselves.]]> 2018-05-25 18:56:14 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718642 anthonyste2957 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718712 Irrational thinking is careless behavior.]]> 2018-05-25 18:56:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718712 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718730 Jan what do you think is the main driving force?]]> 2018-05-25 18:56:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718730 davidbog7001 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718940 Irrationality often stems from obsession, for instance Victor's obsession led him to dig up dead bodies to create a living creature and Macbeth's obsession led him to commit acts that not only led to his own demise, but the demise of multiple people around him.]]> 2018-05-25 18:57:44 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263718940 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719000 The main driving force of Victor's behavior was to create a new life (the monster) ]]> 2018-05-25 18:57:57 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719000 saipou8029 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719119 People can do irrational things in order to protect their family or loved ones. They can go to great lengths to accomplish anything even though they might take the wrong path.]]> 2018-05-25 18:58:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719119 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719265 Priyanshu I can agree with that, because they probably do it for a purpose. But for the purpose of Frankenstein/Macbeth, I wouldn't say Victor/Macbeth would do that for a good reason.]]> 2018-05-25 18:59:03 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719265 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719297 ya, love makes people do rather irrational things]]> 2018-05-25 18:59:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719297 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719468 ^^ Lady Macbeth?? Since she technically told Macbeth to kill Duncan...]]> 2018-05-25 18:59:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719468 jeremiahmal1822 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719490 I believe because that Victor felt like he had a complete life supported by Maslow's hierarchy of needs the top of the pyramid is self-actualization and that's being the best you can be and i believe that's what drove victor to create this monster]]> 2018-05-25 18:59:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719490 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719571 I think of irrationality is the inability to be able to see the other side of a situation and solely pursuing one's own desires in spite of adverse conditions that could be very plausible. For example, this showed up in The Things They Carried because of the way that Tim O'Brien began to become obsessed with getting revenge on Bobby Jorgenson. Tim's experience of nearly dying as a result of Bobby's actions caused him to become consumed with the idea of inflicting pain upon Bobby even though his friends who he had to leave a few months prior specifically told Tim to leave that idea of causing pain to Bobby. The desire and obsession to inflict pain upon Bobby shows up in the way that O'Brien said “I’d head down to the wire and stare out at the darkness, out where the war was, and think up ways to make Bobby Jorgenson feel exactly what I felt. I wanted to hurt him” (O’Brien 184). He put these words into action through the very intricate and multi-tiered plan that O'Brien fulfilled on the night that he tried to instill fear in Jorgenson's life. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:00:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719571 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719580 Priyanshu Poudala I agree with you, this can actually apply to many situations in life, especially in the corporate/business world, some companies make mistakes and know they did but proceed on still doing that.]]> 2018-05-25 19:00:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719580 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719738 I think similarly to truth, rationality is subjective and what others think is irrational could be considered completely rational to others. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:01:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263719738 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720373 this isn't much of a thematic answer to the question. We learned in physics that depending on where you are and how fast you're going relative to those around you, your entire experience of reality could be warped]]> 2018-05-25 19:04:30 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720373 davidalv4919 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720388 good connection of when his obsession began and how his life was changed forever because of it]]> 2018-05-25 19:04:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720388 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720478 brandon says a good thing about the fact that a complete perception of something takes time to develope]]> 2018-05-25 19:05:08 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720478 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720501 I agree with Brandon, the monster has good intentions, but nobody gives him the change due to his scary appearance. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:05:16 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720501 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720596 In Frankenstein from Victor's perspective the monster is ugly and horrible but when you are looking through the perspective of the monster you are able to relate and sympathize with him. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:05:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720596 danielpac5060 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720601 I agree with Brandon i think the monster was good to start, but after constantly being judged for how he looks rather than how he acts, he changes ]]> 2018-05-25 19:05:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720601 dakshyasha6060 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720613 I agree with Priyanshu saying about situations in life can be either good or bad]]> 2018-05-25 19:05:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720613 jamesdav1237 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720643 Actual sight doesn't have to be the only form of perception, Delacey still has a perception towards the monster it's just different from others.]]> 2018-05-25 19:06:04 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720643 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720659 I agree with Priyanshu, because of that single lightning strike, it started changing his perceptions of life and family. He starts viewing his life to think all about his studies and knowledge, and he would rather put his family second. He says, "to procrastinate all that related to my feelings of affection until the great object" (Shelley 56). He would rather put his loved ones second, and focus on his studies first.]]> 2018-05-25 19:06:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720659 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720780 Perceptions are also influenced by where and when you live ]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:00 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720780 lexisric1181 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720799 I agree with Chris, I used the example, when answering the questioning, that De Lacey had a different perception on the creature because he could not see him. He judged him by the way he act and his personality. I think the author really wanted to drive that point, when writing this book. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:09 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720799 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720826 I don't think so he was pretty ugly]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720826 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720866 I really don't think that Victor perceives women as objects, let alone Elizabeth. What he was saying about her was more of an odd way of saying that she's his responsibility to raise and take care of]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:35 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720866 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720868 Chris had a very good example with the way that many people perceived the creature to be a monster before really understanding the intentions of the monster and its character. However, De Lacey perceived the monster differently due to his lack of being able to see that caused him to solely focus on the content of the character and who the "monster" really was. The difference in behavior between the two situations is very great as a result of different perceptions as a result of sight. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:35 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720868 matthewzhe1833 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720906 The monster's perception of the world started as him having a positive outlook on life but as the monster realized that the world was "evil" towards him, never rewarding him for good deeds and constantly punishing him, shaped him into being "evil" towards others.]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720906 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720914 I agree with Brandon that the monster may have had good intentions, but he was never given the chance to display them because he was shunned by humans. Their perceptions of him caused them to act violently toward him, which changed the monster's attitude towards the humans]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720914 abigailmee3019 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720917 I do not think the monster would not be accepted into society because people would be afraid of him, but I do agree with Chris that if people learned more about them, they would be more accepting.]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:51 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720917 janlak2140 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720933 I don't think that the monster would actually be accepted into today's society because he is such an individual, that the perceptions of everyone else would we be fearful towards the monster.]]> 2018-05-25 19:07:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263720933 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721064 in response to anthony, due to our current government and secret services, if this creature were to be here during our times, we probably wouldn't even know about it, this monster would probably be in some lab that the governemnt controls.]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:38 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721064 sarahblo2276 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721070 even though our society may be more open now, i really do not think that people now a days would be more accepting. i almost feel like our world is more judgmental now then it ever was.]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:41 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721070 alainaste3514 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721087 I agree that the monster would be more accepted today because it is a more open society ]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:46 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721087 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721113 I feel that the monster would be accepted in today's society because in today's world we accept the different types of people that back then society would have let them die. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721113 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721120 I don't think the monster would be accepted today, because people's perceptions of him would remain the same. Because he had a horrifying outward appearance, the first impression would be the same, and people would be afraid of him]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:56 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721120 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721127 zohaib coming in with the conspiracy theories]]> 2018-05-25 19:08:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721127 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721182 I agree with Brandon, the authors characterize their characters based on their perceptions of people.]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721182 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721184 its truth 🅱en]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721184 dakshyasha6060 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721186 Chris had a good example saying about the monster to understand him first and than think after what would be right to do]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721186 samanthaack2025 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721195 I think that the monster would be accepted in our society. There will still be people who are afraid of him, but I think that overall everyone would be accepting. Everyone has something different, so we would accept him. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:22 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721195 lexisric1181 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721203 I don't think the monster would be accepted into the society because there is lot of judgement and hate in our world between different races and gender. We would have a hard time accepting someone who is completely different from us and a completely different creature. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:24 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721203 haleyjon5450 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721218 There are many perceptions in life and in Delacy's case he had a different perception then most people being blind that he couldn't see what the monster looked like so he was able to accept him more unlike Felix and Agatha who could see him and ended up being very cruel to the monster.]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:29 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721218 jamesdav1237 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721241 Regarding Anthony's question, I do not believe that the monster would be accepted in our modern society. Although it can be said that we are quite accepting, the stretch for the monster might just be far too much for an average person. He is described as this "ugly" towering figure and that's pretty spooky.]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721241 alanjun2087 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721252 I think the monster would be acceptable if Victor only would teach him a little bit. But because he didn't, I think other people will perceive him scary and unnecessary, like in Frankenstein.]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721252 alexisall1138 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721283 I feel like our perceptions on how we see the world and behave are based upon our beliefs and opinions that are formed from past experiences. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:09:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721283 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721394 Yeah but humans don't have past experiences with artificial human life]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721394 danielpac5060 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721439 I agree with Jeremiah i believe the monster would not be accepted in society today due to the potential danger it possesses ]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:38 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721439 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721448 chris implied that mental asylums help people, I never thought this was true, am I mistaken?]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:41 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721448 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721477 I think the monster will be put in like a circus or some form of entertainment]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:49 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721477 abigailmee3019 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721480 I think that many of our perceptions come from the way people were raised and the things that they experienced within their lifetime. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721480 samanthaack2025 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721491 I think if the monster was made, but didn't kill people, he would be accepted. But if he did kill people I think he would not be accepted. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:10:53 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721491 alexisall1138 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721542 The monster's perception of the world and his behavior was negative because he experienced cruel treatment and neglect. He believed the world was bad because it treated him bad. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:11:11 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721542 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721684 Does one's reputation affect the perception that someone has on that person?]]> 2018-05-25 19:11:51 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721684 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721690 2018-05-25 19:11:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721690 alainaste3514 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721694 I also think that our perceptions and opinions reflect upon those of others. Human psychology is often doing things that others are doing ]]> 2018-05-25 19:11:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721694 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721719 saying whether society as a whole would accept the monster or not is a bit silly, because our society is a bunch of separate groups lumped together, so we'd be getting different responses from each]]> 2018-05-25 19:12:02 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721719 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721754 The extent that different perceptions can have upon behavior is very great, causing people to act in irrational ways, and even harming those who were once our friends which is present in Macbeth. Macbeth merely perceived Banquo to be a threat to his ruling, causing Macbeth to vanquish this threat by sending murderers to do his deed for him. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:12:08 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721754 davidalv4919 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721771 i dont think he would be accepted at all due to him looking like something out of a horror film and a murderer]]> 2018-05-25 19:12:11 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721771 janlak2140 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721797 I feel like people pitying the monster as an animal would not qualify acceptance because he would still be treated differently than everyone else, which is exactly the opposite of what he wants.]]> 2018-05-25 19:12:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721797 jamesdav1237 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721916 Being in the circus doesn't really mean that they're being accepted in society. Oddities in circuses are displayed purely because they are not normal.]]> 2018-05-25 19:12:56 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721916 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721936 Taming of the Shrew is a clear example of this as views on gender roles have changed drastically since the Shakespearean era]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721936 sarahblo2276 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721964 i definitely agree that the community really impacts what an individual does ]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263721964 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722016 I agree with Brandon, we tend to follow social norms and when the influencer sees someone one way, others follow suit.]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722016 matthewzhe1833 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722049 Perceptions could change depending on environmental factors. If the people start accepting the monster, treating the monster as a human, then the monster might stop being so cruel as the world is not treating him as such. If a person is raised in a terrible environment but put into a good environment they might drop their "bad habits" that they have picked up.]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:35 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722049 haleyjon5450 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722084 I think if Victor taught the monster things about life the monster would have a better perception on the world. Because people never gave him a chance that led to the monster never giving others a chance and he wouldn't listen and he would act irrational like killing all of Victor's family.]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:45 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722084 enriquecam7774 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722117 Yes people's reputation do affect the way people see that person. For example if a person is know to be lazy and does not want to work than people would not want to work with that person because he/she wouldn't work ]]> 2018-05-25 19:13:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722117 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722191 I agree with Priyanshu, when things are out of the norm, then those things feel out of place and usually will be shun upon by the society as a whole.]]> 2018-05-25 19:14:18 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722191 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722200 Jeremiah, I'll have to disagree because social "norms" are there for a reason; they're "normal" and thus are a part of our society]]> 2018-05-25 19:14:21 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722200 alainaste3514 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722275 Priyanshu makes a good point: many people follows others based on little evidence that they are right ]]> 2018-05-25 19:14:50 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722275 danielpac5060 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722294 i agree that perceptions are always changing due to the evolution of society ]]> 2018-05-25 19:14:57 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722294 jamesdav1237 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722298 So if a large population starts sniffing each other, does that become a social norm?]]> 2018-05-25 19:14:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722298 alexisall1138 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722311 Perceptions can also be influenced by social media. I personally think that our social norm of having social media is not healthy for most people and it can change the way we see the world and behave in social situations. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:15:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722311 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722369 Chris, as logical as that is, people don't tend to change their perceptions when they're proven wrong because they tie their opinions and perceptions in with their identity]]> 2018-05-25 19:15:20 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722369 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722550 This world is made up of two types of people, leaders and followers, the monster, if brought to our world, would represent a leader, and because of that maybe others will follow him and make him feel like home, as if he is wanted and a part of the society.]]> 2018-05-25 19:16:22 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722550 madalynbro4512 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722803 Perceptions can be changed through experience, as David said. External events have the potential to change our perceptions, which can influence our beliefs and attitudes]]> 2018-05-25 19:17:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722803 taylorwer2199 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722878 I agree with David, I think that experiences influence our perceptions on others because experiences give us knowledge. That knowledge can influence how we react in certain situations]]> 2018-05-25 19:18:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263722878 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723023 Perceptions can be deeply rooted in certain experiences that happened in the past but continue to affect the future. Different experiences and situations cause people to act and think in different ways as a result of their different way of perceiving the world. This theme can be found in The Things They Carried with the difference between Tim O'Brien and his daughter, Kathleen. Although some may say that it is quite obvious that there would be a difference between Tim and his daughter as a result of the difference between ages, we never knew as an audience whether those situations truly happened, nor if O'Brien did have a daughter name Kathleen. If this is true, then it begins to highlight the reasoning behind why O'Brien may have incorporated Kathleen in the story. I think that it could partially be done to show momentous impact that war is capable of having upon people: O'Brien experienced war and Kathleen embodies innocence by the way that she is a child and has never been to war. Kathleen was also symbol in the book for those when never went to war. If this is the reason for incorporating Kathleen into the book, it demonstrates the difference in perceptions caused by experiences such as war: war is something that is nearly incomprehensible in the impact that it can have for those who never experienced it. This can be present in the interaction between Kathleen and O'Brien when Kathleen started off by saying “'Sometimes you’re pretty weird, aren’t you?
‘Well, no,’ I said.
‘You are too.’ She pulled her hand away and frowned at me. ‘Like coming over here. Some dumb thing happens a long time ago and you can’t ever forget it’” (O’Brien 175). ]]> 2018-05-25 19:19:10 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723023 zohaibakr7962 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723099 wow @nathan]]> 2018-05-25 19:19:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723099 samanthaack2025 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723131 I agree with David. Your perception comes from your experiences. Like with the monster, he had a very rough time "growing up": he had no one there for him and he had to learn things all on his own. He then saw the world as evil and bad. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:19:43 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723131 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723202 I think that the biggest influence on our perception of a given thing is when we first meet it. This is shown in our perceptions of the world in general in the formative years of a child's life; it is very hard to break away from a good or bad childhood, it's basically set in stone. Another example is first impressions. As silly as they are, they're very important because the first impression is your "formative years" for your perception of something.]]> 2018-05-25 19:20:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723202 rohanmen4896 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723396 “When by the dim and yellow light of the moon as it forced its way through the window shutters, I beheld the wretch the miserable monster I created”

Through Victor's perspective the monster is horrid but from other perspectives it is the complete opposite. You need multiple perspectives to expand your personal view of the story and not have as narrow-minded of a view of the story.

]]> 2018-05-25 19:21:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723396 samanthaack2025 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723586 What is the difference between fact and perception?]]> 2018-05-25 19:22:42 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723586 nathanfre6507 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723684 Perceptions can cause us to view the world in different ways, but it can also cause a person to view himself or herself in a different light. This is present in Frankenstein by the way Victor believed that he was the reason for the death of his family members, although he never truly killed them, it was the monster that he created that caused those loved ones to die. These beliefs and different perceptions caused Victor to despise himself in some ways and separate himself from others.]]> 2018-05-25 19:22:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723684 matthewzhe1833 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723765 A relationship between a "creature's" perception and biology could be the "imprinting" period that an organism experiences in its youth. An example could be dogs, when they're puppy they undergo a period where they associate certain feelings with certain feelings permanently. If they were to say, be chased by a vacuum as a puppy it's likely that they will be forever scared of vacuums as their perception of the vacuum is almost permanently set into stone during the imprinting period. ]]> 2018-05-25 19:23:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723765 benjaminblo4688 https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723784 I guess facts can be described, in their relations to perceptions, by how they're not viewed through the lenses of perception]]> 2018-05-25 19:23:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katelyn_stanley/vge1uknvqsqx/wish/263723784