https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6 questions en-us 2017-11-09 12:43:44 UTC 2017-11-14 15:42:16 UTC hello@padlet.com lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205233951 Hello]]> 2017-11-09 12:47:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205233951 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205233957 Hello

]]> 2017-11-09 12:47:45 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205233957 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205235972 What were some of the arguments  given by the Framers on June 29th related to states having independent and sovereign powers to govern themselves or by a federal gov?
If you respond to this post please write name and #1. ]]> 2017-11-09 12:54:00 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205235972 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205236714 Why does Ellsworth move on June 29th that a compromise was needed regarding the rule of suffrage of the 2nd branch of Congress so the US would have a partly national government?]]> 2017-11-09 12:56:17 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205236714 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205237547 Madison concludes on June 30th that states were not divided by size but by climate and having or not having slaves. Why would proportional votes of states in both branches be an issue for states with or without slaves?]]> 2017-11-09 12:58:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205237547 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238383 Why was the Gerry committee formed on July 2nd?]]> 2017-11-09 13:01:07 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238383 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238674 On July 5th explain the meaning of Gerry's statement "We were neither the same nation nor different nations"]]> 2017-11-09 13:01:55 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238674 lee_day https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238975 Summarize how the Gerry committee Report, also know as the Connecticut Compromise come out with a 5-4-1 vote. ]]> 2017-11-09 13:02:47 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205238975 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205298034 The proportional representation in the first branch would secure the large states against the small. An equality of voices was conformable to the federal principle and was necessary to secure the small states against the large. He said if a compromise did not take place the meeting would not be in vain but worse than in vain. He was not in general a half-way man, yet he yet he preferred doing half the good we could, rather than do nothing at all. The other half may be added when the necessity shall be more fully experienced. The power of self defense was essential to the small states. ]]> 2017-11-09 14:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205298034 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205298273 the discussion was over representation concerning the size over small and large states. the committee was ready to agree to the compromise that was concerning the new jersey and virginia plans. the people who were discussing knew that a compromise was needed because if not it could lead to serious problems for the nation as a whole. due to the situation at hand and the terms regarding both plans the nation felt divided but under government was still united. it was thought that if no compromise was to take place the future of the nation was uncertain. the states (large and small) were still a part of the nation but if no decision was made then a divide would take place that we as a whole couldn’t come back from. the divide would be present and secession and foreign affairs could become a severe problem for the nation. ]]> 2017-11-09 14:54:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205298273 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205299419 Proportional votes of states in both branches would be an issue for states with or without slaves. States with more slaves would have more votes and representation because those slaves count as more people, even though they count as 3/5ths of a person. States without slaves or with less slaves won't get as many votes and people representing them because they have less people. This can be an issue for states without slaves because they wont have as much say, representation, and power. It will make them feel small and they would most likely want equal representation. However, equal representation could be unfair for the slave populated states because they have more people and it is hard to get that many people to agree on one thing.]]> 2017-11-09 14:56:15 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205299419 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205304130 So a few days ago I was browsing the national archive and I came across this one document called the constitution? It seemed really neat so I looked a bit more into it and they had a whole convention to make this thing! That's crazy! Any who, I was browsing the dates and it happened on my birthday! June 29th! On this day, the framers (the people who put the constitution together :P) had lots of arguments over states governing themselves or having a federal government. One of the arguments were that smaller states should have the same representation as the larger states. Lots of the framers disagreed with this idea, though. They much preferred representation based on population However, the people didn't :O. Another argument the framers debated was states that are independent should have the right to have protection along with those who are under a government. Basically, each individual state should have their own army. The framers thought this was bogus! They didn't believe the states could do it. Another argument was that the framers believed that the federal government should have two branches, One with equal representation and one with representation based on population. The two branches are meant to govern the people. There were a lot of other arguments too, but these were the best! Haha I just love government.

Bye!!
- Group One]]> 2017-11-09 15:03:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205304130 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205304650 The Connecticut compromise was an agreement that large and small states reached during the constitutional convention of 1787. During the process to reach an agreement, many plans were introduced. The Gerry Committee Report was chosen over king from Massachusetts, Yates over Hamilton from new York, franklin over Wilson from Pennsylvania, etc.... They al believed the key to the compromise was winning over national supports like Gerry and mason. On july 7th they took up question of the equal vote for each state. in second branch and agreed (6-3-2) to retain this provision. On July 9th the committee suggested approval of the population formula. The second paragraph of the Gerry committee report was approved (9-2)

]]> 2017-11-09 15:04:33 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205304650 spareone2002 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205307554 The Framers were looking to make their own constitution, but we’re having a lot of trouble putting it together because of the people wanting different things. Some wanted the states to have more power than the gov, some didn’t. This caused them to make a decision of how they will make this constitution.

]]> 2017-11-09 15:09:12 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205307554 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205520112 The Gerry committee was formed on July 2nd. The convention appointed its first committee, this was to help prepare standing rules and orders. The convention created the Gerry committee to settle representation issues between the large and small states. The Gerry committee didn't feel that the constitution would provide enough protection of people rights and state rights. The Gerry committee's first task was to settle the representation issue. The committee settled on this agreement; 1. the first branch of legislature will be elected by a population with states being apportioned one member for every 40,000 inhabitants. 2. All bills that raise and appropriate money will originate in the first house. 3. In the second branch of legislative each state will be equal. ]]> 2017-11-09 21:42:53 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205520112 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205702511 We agree with your response. It makes sense that a compromise would be necessary in this situation because if no compromise was made our country would probably fall apart. ]]> 2017-11-10 14:37:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205702511 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205702976 we agree that without the compromise the country would have been left in great chaos. it seemed to be a mutual agreement and common themethat the compromise was much needed]]> 2017-11-10 14:38:45 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205702976 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703234 We agree with the Gerry committees decision to make each state equal in the second branch of legislative because it is better for small and large states to be based on equality and not population because if representation was based on population some states would have way more representation than others.]]> 2017-11-10 14:39:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703234 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703541 We did not know what the Gerry committee was until we read your response, so you did a good job answering the question and explaining it.  We agree with everything you've said and cannot have said it any better.]]> 2017-11-10 14:40:10 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703541 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703605 Hey group 6! We agree with your statement that the compromise wanted to outdo all the other plans. However, we want to know what else did this compromise agree to? Did it just agree to equality? It also says they agreed on the population formula but what is the population formula?? This compromise solved many conflicts which was very good!]]> 2017-11-10 14:40:19 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205703605 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205704844 2017-11-10 14:43:11 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205704844 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205704992 We agree that doing something to solve representation in the states was necessary and was better than doing nothing at all. Both small and large states needed security against the other for it to be successful.

]]> 2017-11-10 14:43:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205704992 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205705168 the 3/5ths compromise was a bad idea because we feel like all people deserve equal representation no matter what their background is or their race is. we feel that it would help stop the chaos and fighting if they made everyone equal.]]> 2017-11-10 14:43:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205705168 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205705685 We agree that without the Connecticut compromise, the nation would soon "fall apart" or chaos would erupt because the two plans split up the nation between the small and large states, but the compromise brought them together again.]]> 2017-11-10 14:44:55 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205705685 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205707421 we think he meant that at that point the states were not acting like friends, but at the same time there were not acting like enemies. we think he felt that they needed to unite together to make a better country.

]]> 2017-11-10 14:48:52 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205707421 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205708382 we agree, with out the connecticut compromise the states would not be strong enough to protect them self]]> 2017-11-10 14:51:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205708382 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205708701 We agree with your response. Becoming equal was an important thing to have, which was a good idea to second the idea. I also love the idea that there was so much equality!! The fact that both large and small states get a fair chance is very important and good. It's a good way to balance things. 

]]> 2017-11-10 14:51:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205708701 https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205709982 2017-11-10 14:54:24 UTC https://padlet.com/lee_day/uopjnznugiy6/wish/205709982