Gothic element and quotes selected as evidence. AP Pd 5 by Laura DeSena https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h Provide an element and substantiate it with a single quote from Poe and one from James en-us 2020-09-08 13:57:27 UTC 2020-09-12 04:00:20 UTC hello@padlet.com Darkness is an internal as well as external element. judeobsc17 https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/727569193 " " (Poe)
" " (James) -- L. DeSena]]> 2020-09-08 15:05:25 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/727569193 The supernatural is a common theme in Gothic literature, shown in both of these pieces https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/732810203 "MADMAN ! I TELL YOU THAT SHE NOW STANDS WITHOUT THE DOOR !" (para. 45, Poe)
"The case, I may mention, was that of an apparition in just such an old house as had gathered us for the occasion—an appearance, of a dreadful kind, to a little boy sleeping in the room with his mother and waking her up in the terror of it;" (James)
Christian Patton]]> 2020-09-09 19:27:33 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/732810203 Both pieces are able to incorporate elements of mystery and distress among the main characters which ultimately creates an uneasy or troubled atmosphere. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/733275103 "What was it--I paused to think--what was it that so unnerved me in the contemplation of the House of Usher? It was a mystery all insoluble; nor could I grapple with the shadowy fancies that crowded upon me as I pondered" (Poe, para. 1).
"It took of course more than that particular passage to place us together in presence of what we had now to live with as we could- my dreadful liability to impressions of the order so vividly exemplified, and my companion's knowledge, henceforth- a knowledge half consternation and half compassion- of that liability"(James 24).
Delanie Garzon]]> 2020-09-09 23:23:23 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/733275103 Being an intruder in the presence a supernatural or abnormal environment is a theme used in both texts. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/736344937 "The worldly reason, however, assigned for this singular proceeding, was one which I did not feel at liberty to dispute. [...] I will not deny that when I called to mind the sinister countenance of the person whom I met upon the staircase, on the day of my arrival at the house, I had no desire to oppose what I regarded as at best but a harmless, and by no means an unnatural, precaution" (Poe, para. 27).
 "Dishonored and tragic, she was all before me; but even as I fixed and, for memory, secured it, the awful image passed away. Dark as midnight in her black dress, her haggard beauty and her unutterable woe, she had looked at me long enough to appear to say that her right to sit at my table was as good as mine to sit at hers. While these instants lasted, indeed, I had the extraordinary chill of feeling that it was I who was the intruder" (James 70).
- Jordan Spencer ]]> 2020-09-10 18:00:44 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/736344937 A dark and gloomy setting is present in both the texts. In each piece the narrator describes both homes, Bly and the House of Usher, in a creepy and unsettling way creating this sense of darkness within the setting. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/737177183 "I looked upon the scene before me- upon the mere house, and the simple landscape features of the domain- upon the bleak walls- upon the vacant eye-like windows- upon a few rank sedges- and upon a few white trunks of decayed trees..."
(Poe, par. 1)
"The place, with its gray sky and withered garlands, its bared spaces and scattered dead leaves, was like a theater after the performance- all strewn with crumpled playbills."
(James 60)
Alyssa Gunning]]> 2020-09-10 22:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/737177183 One of the many common themes in these two pieces of Gothic literature is the emphasis of creating an ominous and mysterious situation where the reader must read between the lines to derive their own interpretation or prediction, oftentimes related to death. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740291904 "I learned that the glimpse I had obtained of her person would thus probably be the last I should obtain--that the lady, at least while living, would be seen by me no more." (Poe, para. 14)
"But our young lady never came back, and at the very moment I was expecting her I heard from the master that she was dead." (James 13)
Skylar Greenberg
]]> 2020-09-11 20:06:39 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740291904 One small, but revealing element in both pieces of text is the underlying sexual deviance that Quint and the Ushers are apart of. In the Usher's case, it was incest and in Quint's it is his promiscuity and suggested relationship with Miles. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740396985 "I had learned, too, the very remarkable fact, that the stem of the Usher race, all time-honoured as it was, had put forth, at no period, any enduring branch; in other words, that the entire family lay in the direct line of descent, and had always, with very trifling and very temporary variation, so lain"
(Poe, para. 3).


"'He was looking for someone else, you say—someone who was not you?'
'He was looking for little Miles.' A portentous clearness now possessed me. 'That’s whom he was looking for.'
'But how do you know?'
'I know, I know, I know!' My exaltation grew. 'And you know, my dear!'" (James 30).

Sean Partington
]]> 2020-09-11 20:58:16 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740396985 A theme that is shared among both literary pieces is the element of insanity. In "The Turn of the Screw" the governess is seemingly going insane and seeing "ghosts" that she believes are trying to corrupt Flora and Miles. In "The Fall of the House of Usher" the narrator goes into the ominous house sane, but the author suggests that he leaves the house insane. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740642207 "She isn't there, little lady, and nobody's there- and you never see nothing, my sweet! How can poor Miss Jessel- when poor Miss Jessel's dead and buried? We know, don't we, love?" (James71)

"A hideous throng rush out forever, and laugh--but smile no more." (Poe, para. 24)

Amanda Gerold


]]> 2020-09-12 01:32:49 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740642207 In both pieces a recurring theme is the internal fight within a character to meet expectations that have been placed upon them. In reference to "The Fall of the House of Usher" Rodrick feels obligated to go forth with the family legacy and commit incest with his sister, ultimately causing him to murder her as an escape. In the novel "The Turn of the Screw" the governess wants to make Miles and Flora perfect children for their uncle and when Miles gets in trouble she is in denial and envisions the "ghosts" for the reasoning of his misbehavior. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740710292 "It would have been impossible to carry a bad name with a greater sweetness of innocence." (James 13)

"It was, he said, a constitutional and a family evil, and one for which he despaired to find a remedy --a mere nervous affection, he immediately added, which would undoubtedly soon pass off." (Poe, para. 10)

Cynthia Dreps]]> 2020-09-12 03:23:09 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740710292 Deception is a key element that builds on the gothic theme in the interpretation of these texts. It seems as if Lady Madeline was unresponsive to stimulus coming from the outside world, while at the same time Poe creates this image of living in our brains to make us wonder if she was ever really alive. While in the "Turn of the Screw", the governess is never really sure of what she is seeing which makes us wonder about the connection that she really has with these visions. https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740716708 "While he spoke, the lady Madeline (for so was she called) passed slowly through a remote portion of the apartment, and, without having noticed my presence, disappeared" (Poe, para. 13).

"My second was a violent perception of the mistake of my first: the man who met my eyes was not the person I had precipitately supposed" (James 13). 

Amanda Finke]]> 2020-09-12 03:34:36 UTC https://padlet.com/judeobsc17/u90ojvludegakc4h/wish/740716708