https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden Discuss the concept of marriage that you found interesting and give your opinion about this? how are we the same and different with them? en-us 2020-10-14 04:14:31 UTC 2020-12-03 04:14:57 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f468-1f469-1f467-1f466.png devi_natalia https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/827435497 In this link, you can read about types of marriage.]]> 2020-10-14 04:21:45 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/827435497 0216003538 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843574968 from what i see from the video is that in the maasai tribe, polygamy marriages are very much common in their culture since most of them said that they would have at least 2 or more wifes, but what the define marriage and love as is the amount of help they need or will carry, one man said he would have two wifes so they could help each other with chores and that is how they define love as, from what i see is that they define love as helping one and another? aside from that arrange marriages are also common there, where it was said that girls would be in an arrange marriage by a young age with a man who usually their father chooses, and even at a young age they also still have a sexual relationship included even if some of them aren't even able to produce any children yet. in the Maasai tribe men have much more rights to make decisions in the family where women have almost none as how the elderly woman said that "women have nothing, she just feed the animal, she cannot dispose of one for any purpose"]]> 2020-10-20 04:50:02 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843574968 0110000256 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843589079 the maasai tribe defines "love" as a sexual partner. They dont have the same concept of "love" that we do, where we are attached to our partner in an emotional level. From what i've seen, the reason that they form families is not our of emotional needs but rather a survival needs. A wife's role in a marriage is fixed as someone who do the chores and work. Such as tending the livestock and taking care of the house. Polygamy is common and is also considered as a symbol of wealth, since the ability to sustain a high amount of human dependents would require a larger amount of wealth (and livestock is considered as the only form of wealth). Another thing i noticed is that forced marriage seemed to be common, and that parents would punish their daughters if they disagree. Also, women have no power or wealth in the society. The livestock is owned entirely by the men and the women have no say in managing or using the animals. Their homes, which they need to build for their husbands, are also property of their husband. Leaving the women with nothing.  ]]> 2020-10-20 04:58:10 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843589079 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843589948 The concept of marriage for the Masai Tribe is objective, they marry for wealth (In which wealth is defined as the amounts of women they marry and the amount of animals they herd) and they marry for sexual relations. Polygany is majorly seen in this tribe being that men marry more than 1 women. Younger women are still told to marry and are expected to perform sexual relations with their husband, chosen by their fathers, women are seen as objects and when they are seen as people, they are only seen as people who live to work. There are heavy patriarchy morals and the interesting aspect is that the women seemed not to object, to not disappoint the people around them, they also feel grateful for the being of the other wives since their purpose is to work and not to love. 

I believe that the aims of marriage differ between people, cultures, laws, etc. Yet my personal perspective is that the women are being dehumanised but the standard that their society has allowed them to perceive that this treatment is normal. I believe I fully contradict to their values and do not see marriage similarly in any way. ]]> 2020-10-20 04:58:42 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843589948 0110000256 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843590678 i guess the only thing i can think of that we share in our culture related to this topic is that in Islam and some parts of Indonesia, polygamy is considered acceptable.]]> 2020-10-20 04:59:07 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843590678 0216003538 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843595095 Personally in my opinion how are we the same is the polygamy part and the male part, although not the same in islam a male is allowed to have more than 1 wife and in some areas in indonesia it is allowed and the male having more rights than the woman is also common here but more like men serve as a leading role in the family but women still have rights in the family unlike in the maasai tribe. so most of the concept of marriage that is similar is probably similar to the rules of marriage and roles in the religion wise.]]> 2020-10-20 05:01:43 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843595095 0219005389 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843597028 polygyny and arranged marriage are very common in the Maasai tribe. it's kind of pathetic for me that the Maasai women don't get to choose their own husbands, they also got married in a very young age, they even do sexual relationships despite their young age and their incapability to reproduce, they're also being objectified by being seen as one of the symbols of wealth, they feel like they can't say no to their husband because they don't want to disappoint their husband, and lastly they have to build their own houses for them and their children. however, despite all that, those women still seem happy as ever. it's also sad that the Maasai men married several women so that those women can help each other on doing the chores and support each other instead of the husband and the wife helping each other. from what I saw, I personally think that the Maasai tribe is a heavily patriarchal tribe. either way, I don't exactly blame the tribe for having such culture. I just feel sorry for them because those women and girls deserve to be treated better than that.]]> 2020-10-20 05:02:53 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843597028 0110000256 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843600147 Honestly, i cant really blame them for having that kind of culture. since my opinion is heavily influenced by western values, i myself would disagree with the kind of culture that they have (no gender equality, women having very few rights, polygamy). But looking at their living conditions, i understand that their way of living is important for survival. The amount of responsibility they need to survive would be too much for a single person (tending the livestock, tending to the house, gathering firewood, gathering water), whereas western values typically is that the male is the only one working in the family. That being said, i still strongly disagree with the fact that the gender equality in their culture is basically nonexistent. ]]> 2020-10-20 05:04:48 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/843600147 0219005389 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/847875451 I think that what happens in the Maasai tribe is also prevalent in Indonesia, especially in rural areas. arranged marriage, child marriage, and polygyny are pretty common in Indonesia. even, according to UNICEF, Indonesia is at the 8th highest absolute number of child brides in the world, while Kenya (where Maasai tribe is) is at the 20th highest. regarding polygyny, Indonesians are also influenced by the major religion, which is Islam where it's believed that a man can have up to 4 wives as long as they can treat all of them equally. arranged marriage in Indonesia happens because of different reasons, but I think the most common ones are wealth/status, religion, child's age, and the parents want to be in-laws. ]]> 2020-10-21 08:10:08 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/847875451 0219005515 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851101591 From the video about the Massai Tribe, polygamy is very much common in their culture because most of the men have at least 2 wife. So the Massai Tribe men see a woman is not his lover however they see the woman is his survival partner. They define love as working partner, so they will doing some works easily the woman can do chores and the man hunt or doing some outside work. Another thing that i see that force marriage is very commonly in their culture. Their parents is force them or they will be get the a punishment if they disagree. In the Massai Tribe men have more rights to make any rules or decisions in the family where a woman have none.]]> 2020-10-22 03:38:36 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851101591 0218004663 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851115824 2020-10-22 03:48:38 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851115824 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851121829 2020-10-22 03:52:53 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/851121829 0219005515 https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/884676468 My opinion about the Massai Tribe is polygamy is still exist in these times so its still the same with the massai tribe because in islam we can have two wife as well. Their concept of marriage still similar to ours the different is in Massai Tribe they treat woman's like nothing but in us woman is treat normally ]]> 2020-11-03 02:00:25 UTC https://padlet.com/devi_natalia/u84g67rn652tjden/wish/884676468