T2C Discussion by Holly Anza https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b Did love or hate win in A Tale of Two Cities? en-us 2021-02-09 17:45:42 UTC 2021-02-09 19:30:24 UTC hello@padlet.com Joey Skura jskura5284 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183791023 Love wins
Page 46- “His cold white head mingled with her radiant hair, which warmed and lighted it as though it were the light of freedom shining on him.” After a hard life in jail for 18 years, Lucie brought Dr. Mannete the love and affection that he needs to help him become healthy. Lucie’s love for Dr.Manette allows him to be his own self again, and gives him strength to return back to the man he used to be. When Dr.Manette had his relapses, Lucie would be there to provide love for him, and help him overcome the hatred that he went through during his times in prison. This is an example of love overpowering hate, and triumphing over the hatred that Dr.Manette faced in his early life. ]]> 2021-02-09 18:13:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183791023 Joseph McClennan - Stalemate https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792219 I think that, in the end,there was no winner, only stalemate, and nowhere is this better illustrated than in the very opening of the book. It shows the inherent contradictions in this. As it opens, “It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair”. (1).  Do things like despair and foolishness not spawn hate, and do wisdom and hope not spawn love? Dickens, in his first sentence alone, tells us the contradictory nature of the story, and how in the end, both existing simultaneously is how it is, and quite likely, how it will always be.]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792219 Isabel Feudo ifeudo5393 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792510 Hate won
“With a roar that sounded as if all the breath in France had been shaped into the detested word, the living sea rose, wave on wave, depth on depth, and overflowed the city to that point” (Dickens, 217).  I believe hate conquered love because in this quote (during the revolution) because there was just this massive wave of rage that swept over everyone. The hatred was so powerful that it was almost as if it could control people. I feel like love was conquered more through the characters but overall I think that hate was stronger and more powerful.


]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792510 Calebe Antunes https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792597 2021-02-09 18:14:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792597 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792606 Olivia Higgins
In the Novel A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens, love wins in the end. Throughout the book, there is an ongoing battle between love and hate. The whole first half of the book I strongly believed that hate would win. Due to Sydney Carton’s tremendous growth from Book 2 to Book 3, it became quite apparent that even though there is still hate, Carton sacrifices his life for Darnay out of pure love and kindness because he knows Darnay has a wife and a daughter: “It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known” (Dickens 382). This shows that Carton is dying for a good cause and it displays his growth. He is no longer an alcoholic with no purpose. He died having a purpose.
]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183792606 Jamie Feudo https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793138 I believe that in the end hate won overall. Hate won because although Darnay and the Manette’s escaped and were alive Carton died for them. Not only that but also only four lives were saved while there are countless others dying at the guillotine everyday who might have not even commited any crimes. The main characters were saved by love but there are so many others who are still suffering and Carton’s sacrifice did not change anything except for the fact that they didn’t die. The rebels even said , “‘Why stop? There is great force in that. Why stop?’”(Dickens 344). This demonstrates that the executions aren’t going to just stop because they’ve killed a lot of people, they’re going to continue until they think everyone who deserves to die is dead.


]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793138 Daniel Romero https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793154 Love won in A Tale Of Two Cities by Charles Dickens. Despite many feelings of hatred throughout the book, love won because Carton was able to ensure a bright future for those around him even though he had to sacrifice himself. “I see the lives for which I lay down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous and happy, in that England which I shall see no more… I see her father, aged and bent, but otherwise restored, and faithful to all men in his healing office, and at peace” (381). Carton sees the future as a time where the people he knew have a better life with less fear than they do right now. Love also won because in many years, there will probably be more love between the people of France because now there might not be so much oppression against the poor which fuels their hate towards the upper class. Hate was still present but long-term, love will probably outweigh it.

]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793154 Adrian Nieves https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793378 Love won
I believe that the novel a Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens ends with love winning against hate at the end. At the last chapter of the story, it talks about how “They said of him, about the city that night, that it was the peacefullest man’s face ever beheld there. Many added that he looked sublime and prophetic” (Dickens 381)The person being described, Carton is described as if he knew that at some point this was going to happen and he is in peace because he had completed his purpose in life. Ever since he had made that promise to Lucie he made sure to keep it, and it showed how happy he was at the ending to have finally found his purpose, with Darnay being scared about seeing Carton in his prison cell because he looked so happy and calm, and how he had stopped drinking and was the source of reason for characters such as Jarvis Lorry and Dr. Manette. The love that he had for Lucie gave him his purpose and therefore made him happy, which shows that the love led to a happy ending for Sydney Carton. His death represents how the old version of Sydney Carton, who was very sad and unmotivated, literally and figuratively died to then later give birth to Lucie Manette’s son Sydney Carton, who he believes would be the complete opposite of his former self, showing that the love has finally brought him to the right path.

]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793378 Olivia Palmer https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793621 I believe that love won in A Tale of Two Cities. Even though Sydney Carton and many others met tragic, hateful ends, their deaths were never in vain as they died for people they truly cared about. Carton gave his life willingly for Lucie, without any hesitation. He made it very clear that “[he] would embrace any sacrifice for [Lucie] and for those dear to [her]” (154). While Carton’s death was devastating, his love for Lucie became a legacy that she shared with her children, ensuring that his memory lived on in love even when the bloody revolution was over. ]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793621 Cristina https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793826 Love won
“I see that child who lay on her bosom and who bore my name, a man winning his way up in that path of life which once was mine” (381).
Although in the end Carton died it was not in vain and it was for love, he died at peace knowing he had people who loved him and he also had people who he loved. He knew when he signed up for the end that his life would be celebrated and remembered because of the sacrifice he made for love. Lucie’s son would grow up with his name and live a good prosperous life that Carton always longed for in a way the boy was living for carton because of the love the family had for him.-Cristina
]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183793826 Carlos Estrada https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183794357 In Charles Dickens’ novel, A Tale of Two Cities, he illustrates the constant battle between love and hate. Although this battle is never-ending, in the novel, I believe that love won, and that love is greater than hate. Love is displayed as love for family and friends, an example of this is in the form of great sacrifice, Sydney Carton's great love for Lucie makes him sacrifice his own life to save her. Carton has always been a drunk miserable man, but Lucie's belief in him inspires him to the greatest sacrifice he can make for her. He says that he would do anything to ensure her happiness, even if it means sacrificing himself so that she can be with the one she loves, Sydney asks her to remember him as "a man who would give his life to keep a life you love beside you" (Dickens 134)
. While this shows the love he has for her and how strong it is, it also foreshadows Carton switching places with Darnay to show Lucie how much she really means to him. ]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183794357 Katya Connell https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183795340 Hate won
“Are you dying for him?” she whispered (Dickens 360) Love was what caused Carton to sacrifice himself for Darnay, but I believe hate won in the end because hate was the reason Darnay was accused and sentenced to death in the first place. ]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183795340 Micah Mayborn- Hate mmayborn2893 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183796520 Hate won over love in a Tale of Two Cities. The French Revolution was inspired by hatred towards the rich nobles who had oppressed the people for so long. Madame Defarge is an example of a French citizen who has used the revolution to execute her own personal vendetta, because “imbued from her childhood with a brooding sense of wrong...inveterate hatred of a class… she was absolutely without pity” (Dickens 367). 

The book concludes with the victory of hatred, as the common people of France get to watch 52 people beheaded by the guillotine. They think they have served justice, but many of the people, including Sydney Carton, were completely innocent. When innocent people have to die for no crime other than being associated with an object of someone else’s hate, the hate has won the day.

]]> 2021-02-09 18:14:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183796520 Hannah https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799250 Hate was victorious. Love is freeing, but hate is consuming. From a young age, Madame Defarge has known nothing but hate and fear. She grew up in a broken home, scared for her life and scared for her innocence which was long gone. Madame Defarge spent her life encapsulated with the idea of revenge, to make others pay for the horror she experienced. However, her trauma runs so deep and is so profound it is not something she can fix; it’s something that has been, “imbued from her childhood with a brooding sense of wrong”. She went into the real world believing the only way to make up for her horrendous childhood would be to make others suffer the way she did, to get revenge to satisfy her. Unfortunately, no amount of hate will cause love. Hate brews hate and “to appeal to her, [it] was made hopeless by [Madame Defarge] having no sense of pity.” 367

]]> 2021-02-09 18:15:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799250 Angelina Feudo https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799467 Although love may have won for more of the character aspect of the story, overall, I believe hate won. It was hatred that provoked the revolution. It was hatred that caused Madame Defarge to plot against Darnay and his family.“The deadly nature of her rath”(Dickens 346).- All Madame Defarge’s motives were purely based on hatred. It was hate that put Darnay on his deathbed which Carton later took his place. “ As a whirlpool of boiling waters has a centre point, so, all this raging circled round Defarge’s wine-shop….” (Dickens 217). This describes the rage and hatred in the crowd which is shown throughout the book. It was hate that motivated the crowd to rebel. 


]]> 2021-02-09 18:15:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799467 Mia DeMore https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799901 2021-02-09 18:15:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183799901 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183801817 Layna Demko- “For you and for any dear to you, I would do anything. If my career were of that better kind that there was any opportunity or capacity of sacrifice in it, I would embrace any sacrifice for you and for those dear to you” (Dickens 154).
 
I believe that love won. Carton sacrificed himself out of love so that Lucie could have a life that she loved as he said previously in the book. Even though the revolution ended up taking Carton, he had a clear, loving conscience and he knew that sacrificing himself would allow Lucie to be happy in life since Darnay is her husband. Carton believes that Lucie needs Darnay in her life to be happy. Carton stated that he would do anything in his power to make sure Lucie remains happy. Even though the revolution took many people out of hate, Carton was able to stay positive even through knowing that his life was being taken from him. This is because even though everyone else was focused on hate, he was focused on the love that he has for Lucie.

]]> 2021-02-09 18:15:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183801817 Mason https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183801857 love won over hate
"Carton dressed himself in the clothes the prisoner laid aside, combed back his hair, and tied it with the ribbon that the prisoner had worn." (Page 358)
I think love won over hate even though there was a lot of both but in the end Carton died for Darnay.]]> 2021-02-09 18:15:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183801857 Ripley Calder https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183804265 “The two stand in the fast-thinning throng of victims, but they speak as if they were alone. Eye to eye, voice to voice, hand to hand, heart to heart, these two children of the Universal Mother, else so wide apart and differing, have come together on the dark highway, to repair home together, and to rest in her bosom.” (379)  I chose this quote to show that love won because it shows two people who are about to die be at peace with their situation. It shows that even though they are losing their lives, they still can look at each other and be okay with what is happening because they know in their hearts that everything will be okay without them.]]> 2021-02-09 18:16:03 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183804265 Benjamin Peck https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183807059 “For you, and for any dear to you, I would do anything. If my career were of that better kind that there was any opportunity or capacity of sacrifice in it, I would embrace any sacrifice for you and for those dear to you… think now and then that there is a man who would give his life, to keep a life you love beside you” (Dickens 154-155).
Carton’s sacrifice for Lucie shows how love wins in A Tale of Two Cities. His love for Lucie is so strong that it overpowers his hate for Darnay. Carton could have easily let Darnay die and be able to almost take his life and live the life he always wanted but instead his love was so strong that he chose to sacrifice himself in order to save Darnay. With all the hate in France at the time Carton used love to beat that hate. His love showed how love won in the novel. It showed how one person's love for another is stronger than any hate and that love would push Carton to make the ultimate sacrifice for Lucie and her family.


]]> 2021-02-09 18:16:31 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183807059 Brooke Anderson https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183825290  I think love won over hate in A Tall of Two Cities. The story has a lot of hate in it but in the end when Carton takes his life for Darnay there was a lot of love. "'Are you dying for him" she whispered. "And his wife and child. Hush! Yes"' (Dickens 360). Carton first shows himself as being a sidekick and feeling useless, but in the end he takes charge and wants his life to be remember.]]> 2021-02-09 18:19:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183825290 Logan Shapiro https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183830253 Even though we saw Madame Defarge’s past turn her into a hateful person, I believe love won the battle because of Sydney Carton’s everlasting love for Lucie. Before Carton met Lucie he was a broken man, he was never sober and had no will to live. He confessed his love to Lucie one night and even though she loved Darnay he promised to be “a man who would give his life, to keep a life you love beside [her]!” (PDF 134).When Darnay was denounced and was sentenced to death. He could’ve taken that chance to be Lucie’s next lover but instead he wanted to make Lucie Happy. He sacrificed his life for Darnay so Lucie could live happily, and he could die knowing that the love of his life is happy.

]]> 2021-02-09 18:20:12 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183830253 Elwyn Jacobs “Come on, and have it out in plain words! You hate the fellow.”--Carton, to himself, page 86“He carried the child over, and before the timid arm was loosened from his neck asked her for a kiss”--Carton, after carrying a child across the street, page 319Even after everything Carton has endured, after all the sadness and hopelessness of his life. Even after he had said he cared for no one, he finds hope and is able to show compassion and help a child across the street without prompting or personal gain. This shows that love can win over hate. It always has a chance to win, even if it doesn’t always. ejacobs3991 https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183842472 Carton's journey shows how anyone can find hope and improve, even when life seems hopeless.]]> 2021-02-09 18:22:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hanza1/tvhklp9xf28tbh0b/wish/1183842472