https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2 Research Question – What are the key arguments surrounding the development on Kampung Baru? Checklist: 1. Some personal testimonials. 2. The main arguments for/against the development. 3. The size of Kampung Baru. 4. The cost of the development (emotional/financial/cultural) 5. The outcome of the final development. en-us 2019-01-14 01:40:31 UTC 2023-02-10 03:29:03 UTC hello@padlet.com Everast2006 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127337 Kampung Baru is a rural traditional Malaysian village in the centre of Kuala Lumpur, the capital of Malaysia. Therefore, making the land very valuable. There are Malay wooden stilt houses here, shaded by coconut palms and banana trees. Chickens and goats wander the narrow lanes, and stalls sell street food like grilled fish and dragon fruit smoothies.

In my opinion, I believe that Kampung Baru should stay how it is currently as I feel that it preserves the true Malaysian culture in one of the biggest cities in South-East Asia. Imagine the government suddenly telling you that you have been evicted from your traditional family home, a home where many generations have lived.

The transaction value of development land in Kampung Baru land is in the range of RM200 to RM350 per sq ft and a small number of sales (closer to Sultan Ismail) hitting above RM500 per sq ft. Doing some "simple" maths tells us that RM500 (per sq ft) x 375 (acres) x 43,560 (sq ft) = RM8.2billion.]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:17 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127337 vijayaa_natasha https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127356 The government in malaysia is practically broke, and when a new prime minister comes they might stop development in Kampung Baru 
(e.g. cyberjaya)]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:21 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127356 shena2024 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127359  To begin with, Kampung Baru is a major symbol of Malaysian culture and a physical depiction of life in 'traditional Malaya'. Destroying such a significant piece of land that essentially bestows 115 years of Malaysian culture would be simply inhumane and unethical. Stripping 35,000 people of home doesn't sound exactly fair, nor moral.

 In addition to that, while developing Kampung Baru would be a beneficial action from the perspective of developing Malaysia as a whole, realistically, it would not only be a major hassle for the citizens of Kampung Baru, but it would also be utterly unfair. This point is implicated by the fact that Kampung Baru is valued at 300 MYR per square foot, or 8.2 Billion MYR (2 Billion USD). To the government, this land could be tremendously helpful to the government in the sense that having more land equates to having more space to develop properties. 

  Thirdly, the vast majority of the citizens of Kampung Baru completely disagree with the motion of 'killing their culture'. However, with that being stated, some of them are keen to develop Kampung Baru under the condition that they would receive monetary compensation. 

On the other hand, developing Kampung Baru would potentially allow Malaysia to become a 'developed superpower' in the future.

  ]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127359 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127369 Kampung Baru, the oldest Malay settlement in Kuala Lumpur. It is a traditional Malaysian village. Kampung Baru, home to 18,372 people. 

If we were to develop Kampung Baru, the entire physical landscape and the economy of the people of Kampung Baru. But on the other hand, people who vowed not to allow progress to take place. "My grandparents opened this land with their blood and money. We won't sell at any price," said Ms Hashimah, a 56 year old retired bank employee. 

In my opinion, I do not think we should remove Kampung Baru, the area could be a cultural and historical staple, in order to remind the people and the world about Kuala Lumpur's beginning and how it has progress and developed into its current landscape.]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127369 charlottelesslar https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127370 How is the Malaysian government meant to develop Kampung Baru when they are 30 billion ringgit in debt? If they do start to develop the land, instead of having a positive impact on the economy, it will put Malaysia in even more debt. There are also approximately 34,500 properties in the property market that are not sold throughout Malaysia, that in total are worth 22 billion ringgit. The people in Kampung Baru should be able to keep what has been there for decades- their home and heritage.]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127370 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127376 Kampung Baru is a traditional Malaysian village with over 17,000 inhabitants. The land is situated in the centre of a growing ecosystem and at this current time is worth 8.2 Billion Ringgit (2B USD). 

If the government were to destroy Kampung Baru, over 100 years of traditional malayan history and wildlife would go along with it. Many people may not like the new developed skyscrapers as well as not being able to afford it. The culture of KL would have been destroyed

On the other hand, some people in Kampung Baru might prefer a more modern apartment instead of the rustic house.]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127376 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127426 People who have been living in Kampung baru, mostly elderly people say that they want to keep their ethnic Malaysian lifestyle. Kampung baru is estimated around 1.4 billion dollars. i believe that the Malay government want to expand their capital city. which is understandable. but i think that you can't just go build on peoples homes and expect them to live in a place where they haven't even chose. 

Some of them have even lived in Kampung Baru for their entire lives and for the Malay government to just come and say, you have to get out because we want to make better houses. i don't think people who are living in KB want that to happen. Just imagine if you were peacefully living in your house in leisure Farm and then all of a sudden a man or a woman from the Malay government would say that you needed to get out of your house, because they want to build a even bigger house on it. Most people would absolutely hate that! it would be one of the most distressing moments of your life!

In my opinion i don't think that the Malay government should build on KB because it is a last little slither of traditional Malay culture that is left in the capital city of Kuala Lumper. This Kampung attracts tourists who are staying in KL to come and see the traditional Malay culture. Not only is that good for the whole city, it is good for the people who are living in the Kampung. i am sure that they would love to speak to the visitors and the tourists and their lifestyle and daily routine. 


]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:54 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127426 lecheesypotato https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127435 Kampung Baru is a traditional village situated in the middle of Kuala Lumpur, with not much development in an attempt to preserve the culture. However, recently, the government has been proposing development projects for the area. There are both praises and criticisms for the change.

In my opinion, I think Kampung Baru needs to be preserved for many reasons, including the fact that many families live their lives there. If the government were to tear apart that place and put high rise buildings in that area, many innocent families will have to be relocated to other places throughout the area, disrupting them. 

However, some people might disagree with my opinion, saying that cities should need development. Some people think the village is disrupting the city's skyline, and also preventing Malaysia's economy from flourishing, and that Malaysia's capital needs to be developed instead of living it as a kampung.

]]> 2019-01-14 01:42:59 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127435 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127438 kampung baru is a traditional village where familys have lived for many decades. to take that away means taking away the old history of malaysia

man kind want money but lets think about the wildlife and how many people it would effect to get rid of kampung buru.

Kampung Bharu was founded in 1988 by british colonial authoritiesso is pretty old and it costs 1.4  billion us dollars home to 18,372 people

kampung baru brings great contrast to the city because the skyscrapers power of the little colourful village and i think thats a good thing to have in a village. contrast.

bye bye ]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:00 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127438 danielhowaikit https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127446 Kampung Baru is a traditional village close to the heart of KL and highly valued by land developers who wish to redevelop the land and 'unlock it's value'.

The project is predicted to cost around 43 BILLION RM, which Malaysia simply doesn't have, and what about compensation? The land developers will pay the villagers a small pitiful amount of money, kick them out and start developing their array of condos and sell them for a massive amount of profit, how is that fair?     ]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127446 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127450 - Approximately population of 35,000 people
- Costs 1.4B US Dollars/8.2B RM
- Formed in 1900
- Based right in the centre of KL
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Kampung Baru is located in the center of one of the busiest and crowded cities in South East Asia, Kuala Lumpar. It is currently worth over 1.4B US Dollars (8.2B RM) and its price in the market is rising. The debate of whether to knock it down or keep tradition in the middle of society. 

In support of the destruction of Kampung Baru, you could say]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:05 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127450 elisaseeyicen https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127484 Kampung Baru is a rural traditional Malaysian village which contains stilt houses and is surrounded by coconut and banana trees, which gives a Malaysian vibe. This seems insignificant at first, but is actually provides some insight into typical Malaysian life. Malaysians love coconuts, and in many grocery stores there is a section dedicated just to coconuts and santan(coconut milk). Bananas are used for banana fritters and the making of otak( the leaves wrap the meat). Lastly, banana leaves are generally banded together to make a broom in Malaysian kampungs.

This leads on to the first point that I will make, which is that this Kampung has a significant cultural meaning to KL. Without Kampung Baru, KL would just be another dull city in the world filled with apartment blocks and just have a dystopian type grey skyline.

The urban village now has some 17,000 people, but most of them were foreign workers. This is partly due to the lower cost of living there. He said almost 60% of the original inhabitants had moved out. An Malaysian official is quoted saying“The condition of Kampung Baru is deteriorating by the day. The land owners do not care much about their houses here, they only care about the rental they receive,” Thus, even though on the outside, the village looks like a traditional village, inside, most of the villagers aren't preserving the Malay culture and are actually destroying the village, just like building skyscrapers will.

The kampung is 4 km² which could actually contain many skyscrapers as well and house more of Malaysia's population. But it is also argued that there are too many houses in KL, however, this would be more convenient as the main reason that the houses are unoccupied is because of inconvenient locations. Kampung Baru is nearby the city centre so many people will vie for houses in an apartment there .

]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:23 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127484 altonwong1108 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127548 Kampung Baru holds all the traditions of Malaysia. It is located in the centre of Kuala Lumpur. In between the coconut trees and banana trees lies the rural style villages and food stalls selling Malaysian street foods. The villages are all made out of wood and they are low lying houses which is what defines the Malaysian tradition. Kampung Baru has an approximate population of 35,000 people.

Although Kampung Baru is what defines Malaysian culture and the wonders of Malaysia, there are some people that are considering to demolish Kampung Baru for a better development. As a matter of fact, the earth is slowly running out of space meaning that most buildings needs to be high rise in order to safe space. Kampung Baru is currently taking up a lot of space therefore people are deciding to rebuild it so that more people can live there. But if this happens, the Malaysian tradition will slowly be lost and in the future everyone would have forgotten the culture.]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:51 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127548 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127549 The people who want to tear down Kampung Baru are only looking at it financially. If they build condos and tall buildings, there will be lots more space, and all of the village locals would be able to move into the tall condos, but the Village Elders have continuously turned away the requests to tear it down. The village itself is estimated to be about RM5,732,300,000.00 or 1.4 billion US Dollars. There is almost 4 km² of land. I believe that it should NOT be demolished, because that would ruin 119 years of Malay culture. It is really nice to have some tradition in the modern city of Kuala Lumpur. The village is in the centre of the city and right next to the Tin Towers.]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:51 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127549 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127555 $1.4 billion to develop and rebuild. that would be destroying 119 years of Malaysian culture. There is a community there and people gather at the local market.
- however the government are offering nice big apartments wich to many local seems better that a small matchstick house.
one local even says that "i live in fear because our houses are not sucure from robbers."

]]> 2019-01-14 01:43:55 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127555 laxylesslar https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127630 Our government is in no state to rip away one of its traditions and tourist sites. Our Government are already in billions of Ringgit of dept and in no shape to develop. Not only that but the Malaysian market is terrible at the moment. There are more houses and apartments than people who want to live here. So why do we need EVEN MORE houses? Malaysia is in so much dept and they want to spend $1.4 billion to develop somewhere no one will live. They don't want to buy the current houses. This is no different. Colonial British administrators gazetted Kampung Baru as a Malay agricultural settlement in 1900 to allow the Malay people to retain their village lifestyle within the city. This represents not only Malaysian history but independence and importance.  

What will happen to the residents of this village? They are accustomed to this lifestyle. Especially the elderly. Try living 50 years ago then being launched into this other world where everything is run differently. Not only that but where will these people go? The government are in huge dept and want to spend even more money to develop this place so it dose not look like they will be dishing out houses or apartments for these people. How would you like it if your childhood and whole life home or place of nostalgia. Not only that but this is cultural and tourist come here to Malaysia to experience different lifestyles. Not to live in the same or similar apartment with the same routine with the same everything. They want to be able to visit these cultural site and kampungs to see how people live and get a taste of Malaysia.]]> 2019-01-14 01:44:27 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127630 AnnabelEliz https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127658 There are still lots of locals living there in Kampung Baru, for example on man, called Maizan Ariff, who has been living there for 43 years says 'I’d go over to the weekend market and there were so many things to do. I could see wayang kulit (shadow puppets) and dancing. It was so lively and there was such a community spirit.' clearly this is portraying that the village of Kampung Baru cannot be destroyed, as there is too much that is depending on the village. - Guardian Newspaper 
The Malaysian government is in no fit state to be taking over the kampung baru land, as at the moment, the entire development rebuild costs approximately $1.4 billion, and it would be destroying 119 years of Malaysian culture. 

]]> 2019-01-14 01:44:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127658 vijayaa_natasha https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127788 Destroying kampung baru would also destroy culture and heritage. Many people who live in kampungs are also fairly old and retired and do not have jobs. Getting rid of their homes and forcing them into a new lifestyle is not nice]]> 2019-01-14 01:45:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127788 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127904 kampung Baru is something that represents kl

]]> 2019-01-14 01:46:49 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320127904 oweerstand2024 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128050 who agrees that kampung baru should stay as it is!?!]]> 2019-01-14 01:48:21 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128050 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128368 kampung baru is like, worth a lot. who knows if it will get more expensive.]]> 2019-01-14 01:49:55 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128368 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128557 i would say nope nope nope nope forever if they drestroy kampung Baru]]> 2019-01-14 01:52:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128557 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128986 why do some people want some stupid apartments for something that is important to kl]]> 2019-01-14 01:55:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320128986 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129235 -it would destroy 119 years of Malay tradition.
-the land would cost 1.4 billion US dollars.
-It would destroy culture, tradition and a stable ecosystem.
-Tan sri SM salim the famous singer lives there.
-Allahyarham M Shariff - Malaysian singer also lives there

]]> 2019-01-14 01:57:18 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129235 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129293 Ambassador of housing]]> 2019-01-14 01:57:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129293 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129446 kampung Baru is needed for tourist atraction. this will get them more money than expensive apartments.]]> 2019-01-14 01:59:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129446 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129818 say aye is you want kampung baru to stay!]]> 2019-01-14 02:02:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320129818 https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320130144 2019-01-14 02:05:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sbrown128/tuc8uhroqdw2/wish/320130144