https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu Made with eyes on the prize en-us 2018-03-07 19:01:47 UTC 2025-11-26 16:53:18 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239350684 Petterson chooses not to follow a chronological sequences of events, to create flashbacks for the main characters. This causes the main characters to relive their memories from the past. This also provides the reader with a first-hand account of the character's memory of a certain event from the past,  that affects their future.  ]]> 2018-03-07 19:12:49 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239350684 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239352359 I think that in the case of Out Stealing Horses, Petterson chose to put the chapters in order of importance instead of chronological order. It was more important for the audience to understand the impacts that specific events had before they found out what caused the traumatic event in the first place. When Trond and Jon went out a stole horses, even though this occurred after Odd was killed, it was more important for the audience to understand that this event was a symbol of the end of Trond's childhood than it was to know beforehand that it was Odd's death that caused Jon to want to go steal horses.]]> 2018-03-07 19:15:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239352359 1332001 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239357327 Since this book talks about one man from when he was young, to when he is a grown man, we can see the biggest parts of his life. We see how his perspectives, lifestyles, and values changes through his life based on the most iconic moments of his life. This proves that the meaning of not only text, but any situation that occurs in life is not necessarily fixed. The basis of belief may stay the same, but everything else could change.]]> 2018-03-07 19:23:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239357327 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239357609 In Out Stealing Horses, while women are not completely omitted, we don't necessarily get a complete perspective from them either. While we get to see Trond's mom's reaction to Trond's dad leaving, we don't get to know all of her thoughts. Additionally, the role of women is identified with the roles of Trond's mom and Jon's mom. They are both expected to go along with whatever happens in their lives, which is especially notable when Trond's dad leaves Trond's mom for Jon's mom.]]> 2018-03-07 19:23:40 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239357609 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239358935 This book and its characters consist almost entirely of Norweigian males living the typical Norweigian life. However, Jon's mom helps a Jew by hiding him in the barn during the war time. We gather from this that Jews lived in Norway before, or fled to Norway at its start.]]> 2018-03-07 19:25:58 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239358935 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239359151 I know that this is going to be very repetitive, but I think that the way that events that are in the book is they way Trond(his 67 year old self) sees it. It opens up with the most important and the most pivotal thing about the summer of 1948, where he goes out stealing horses. This loss of innocence changes him entirely, and while we have a normal progression of time in 1999, the recollection of his memories from his past are what he wants to reflect on most. And while the book ends with him getting the suit, and becoming the "man of the family", it does not mean that he has placed this event at the back of his mind. This is the event where his younger self meets his older self, and starts to become the man he is.]]> 2018-03-07 19:26:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239359151 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239360097 This book changes ideas and perspectives frequently, through all time periods. It slowly reveals more details from the past, shedding light on more and more experiences from Trond's life. Both Trond and the story grow and change, but the meaning remains fixed. The motifs of isolation, belonging, and cultural expression among others are consistent, and are emphasized through anecdotes, and the details slowly revealed to the reader. Trond as a character changes, even in 1999, but the meaning of the book remains constant and really rather sad. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:27:55 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239360097 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363661 I agree with the others. Petterson chooses to write the book in order of the most important moments in the characters' lives. I also think that having the flashbacks sporadically helps the audience really picture themselves in this book. We get to see the thought process of the character as there we thinking about it. Having these flashbacks allows the audience to picture themselves with Trond and how certain parts of his current life trigger memories of the past.]]> 2018-03-07 19:33:51 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363661 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363668 I feel that parts of the text do change over time, both in perspective and societal implications. But the themes and motifs, no matter the perspective Trond seeks, stays the same. Belonging, isolation, and familial dynamic is constant throughout the entirety of the text which allows the meaning of the text as a whole to the reader to be fixed. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:33:52 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363668 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363763 In this text, the oppressed are not necessarily given a voice. Not only do the women in the text not get to have their opinions heard/valued, but all of the characters that do get a voice are the same variety of person.
However, this does not mean that literature cannot be a voice for the oppressed.]]> 2018-03-07 19:34:01 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239363763 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239366813 I agree that Petterson chose to put the chapters in order of importance rather than chronological. This also helps the audience to understand how Trond's past has affected his behavior in the present and allows us to see the parallels of his life from when Trond was 15 and 67. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:38:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239366813 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239367458 Although many of the specifics of the book has changed over time, the overall ideas and themes are still applicable to the world we live in today. Even in this time period, people struggle with identity between childhood and adulthood, or with family relationship. The overall themes about these topics given by the book can be used as an anecdote to learn from, and will probably remain that way in the future as well. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:39:35 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239367458 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239370147 How does the fact that most characters in the text are white Norwegian males affect the perspectives of the story? Also, what does this say about the time period in which this takes place?
-Saweyr]]> 2018-03-07 19:44:13 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239370147 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239370486 Is it possible that those who can relate to Trond are those in that position? Those estranged from their families, and wanting to be alone? Can the story be a voice for those people?]]> 2018-03-07 19:44:44 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239370486 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239371431 I agree that the audience doesn't get a complete perspective from women, however I do not think they are necessarily oppressed. In my opinion the story didn't follow the role of women and giving them more of a voice wouldn't necessarily progress the story. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:46:12 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239371431 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239372832 Does this include the hindsight we have from history, and the progression of time? We know that this was post WWII era, and could this have changed the meaning of certain characters, if we had been there at the time(Franz/ communism)?]]> 2018-03-07 19:48:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239372832 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239373839 That's a good point, because there are immensely significant events that take place before the events of the book. I think hindsight is not only included, it is essential. The majority of the book is about reflection, and Trond's hindsight is immensely important in this regard, because he knows the effects of his actions. Then, to address time period; Within the book, there is immense change in time period. A lot happens between 1948 and 1999. One important aspect of the book is the change between these time periods, and the reflection, and the character motifs. The time period may affect how we perceive certain characters, but the core meaning of this text is fixed, because it expresses universal ideas. ]]> 2018-03-07 19:50:16 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239373839 1332001 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239374138 I agree that the minority groups are omitted from the text. The Jewish person hidden in the barn is the only ethnic character. I think this is also an important part of the time period, so the fact that they were omitted is very important to the story line.]]> 2018-03-07 19:50:49 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239374138 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239374512 Lars' abrupt re entrance into Trond's life is what triggers the beginning of the flashbacks. He remembers what Lars did and how he found out about it. Lars is the reason he lost his friend. And after he begins to remember that summer, other things start triggering the flashbacks.
I think Petterson chose to use flashbacks in this particular way to add background behind his current (1999 Trond) thoughts and feelings. Trond states he feels a certain way, and then we get a flashback to find out why.]]> 2018-03-07 19:51:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239374512 addisonknies https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239375316 Because their social interactions and life experiences are generally limited to white males around them, there is likely a clear lack of perspective in their lives. They assume that everyone has the same needs as themselves while ignoring others.

]]> 2018-03-07 19:53:16 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239375316 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239378650 On page 5, Trond starts to think about wanting to be lonely. He also thinks about the reflection of his life. He talks about his age and how old he is, and how the world is changing around him. So I think he would have reflected on his past life, whether or not Lars had been there to trigger the flashbacks. But I do think that Lars did trigger the flashbacks, making him think about his past earlier and more vivid than expected.]]> 2018-03-07 19:59:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239378650 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239483543 I do not think Trond, or people like Trond are oppressed. The definition of Oppressed from the Cambridge Dictionary is, “governed in an unfair and cruel way and prevented from having opportunities and freedom”.  Trond’s issues are all self imposed, while oppressed people’s burdens are caused by an outside source. Trond chose to live in solitude. That shouldn’t undermine the issues that he has, but that does mean that he’s not oppressed. However, this text can be a voice for people like Trond; people who are introverted and long for isolation.]]> 2018-03-08 02:36:48 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/239483543 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240350124 Both of the time periods of Trond's life that are discussed in the book are representative of the times in which he isn't responsible for anyone. The book begins with an old man who is isolated from everything and it is because of this that he reflects on the last time in his life that he wasn't responsible to or for anyone. This is when he remembers the times that he was a young boy. The book ends when his youth is cut short by becoming the man of the family. It is because these events are so nicely juxtaposed to each other  that it isn't necessary for Petterson to follow a chronological sequence. ]]> 2018-03-09 20:01:54 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240350124 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240350793 "A flashback involves (as the name describes) a scene that moves from the present to the past to reveal something about a character or event within the narrative."

As it says on this website, Authors tend to not follow a chronological sequence of events, using flashbacks, to reveal something about a character or event within the narrative. This is huge for Out Stealing Horses because the flashbacks reveal everything we need to know about Trond and all the background we need to know about Lars as well.]]> 2018-03-09 20:03:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240350793 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240351403 People often base their opinion about a certain person purely out of things that they can see, not the things they went through. The problem with this is that people go through things in their life to make them that way. In this book, Trond lives in isolation, and at first the readers may judge him harshly for that, however as they learn more about him, they are able to understand why he acts that way, telling the readers to understand a person before they judge them.]]> 2018-03-09 20:05:04 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240351403 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240353078 Although this may not be our traditional idea of 'oppressed' but this gives an awareness of people who lost their family and how they deal with it or don't deal with it. The author lost his whole family, and he wrote this book which is filled with people who lost their family member and how their lives were ruined by it. In this case, yes, the assertion that literature is the voice for the oppressed is valid because in this book, it is a voice for those people who went through rough times and their lives have been affected since then.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2009/jan/03/per-petterson-interview]]> 2018-03-09 20:09:06 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240353078 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240353545 When we first read about Jon crushing the eggs in the nest on his outing with Trond, we do not understand his behavior, why the eggs are so significant, and why Jon says what he says. After we read the next chapter, we finally realize why the eggs are important, and why Jon feels what he does. This change in perspective enriches our understanding of the events, and makes the scene with the eggs even more interesting and revelatory]]> 2018-03-09 20:10:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240353545 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240354585 I think that Trond has definently had a hard life, but he is not necessarily oppressed by anyone. I think if anything he is oppressed by the people in his life which he is obligated to be responsible for. The oppression comes both from the isolation as well as the reason why he has chosen to be in isolation. ]]> 2018-03-09 20:12:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240354585 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240354952 Are women omitted because of the time being in the 1940's? or is there a different reason for this?


]]> 2018-03-09 20:13:31 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240354952 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240355784 The way that people may have viewed this book who had a similar situation to Trond's in the time period that he did, concerning his father, might relate to this more than someone from now a days. The way that masculinity played a role in Trond's growing up plays a very different role today. Now instead of seeing a 'man of the family' who is too young to be considered a 'man' we see the mothers as 'single moms'. Where the responsibility used to be placed on the eldest sons, it has been replaced with blame on the absent father.]]> 2018-03-09 20:15:39 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240355784 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240356096 This could also just be the culture in which people in Sweden abided to. Especially back then. Where women oppressed in Sweden in 1948? This information can help determine whether this novel was a voice for the oppressed or not.]]> 2018-03-09 20:16:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240356096 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357025 There are flashbacks present throughout the book, as several others have mentioned. But these flashbacks are more important than events out of order. They are actually in order, as the book is written from the point of view of Trond in 1999 looking back on 1948. The fact that they are memories being remembered in the present, and not simply out of order chapters, makes the message more powerful. That the reader must focus on Trond's mind and point of view rather than the plot. ]]> 2018-03-09 20:19:19 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357025 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357417 "1. 5 times the average suicide rate:
2. Dramatically increased rates of depression and anxiety:
3. 32 time the average rate of incarceration:
4. Decreased education levels and increased drop-out rates:
5. Consistently lower average income levels:
6. Lower job security:
7. Increased rates of divorce and relationship issues:
8. Substantially increased rates of substance abuse and
9. Increases in social and mental behavioral issues"]]> 2018-03-09 20:20:32 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357417 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357504 I agree with everyone that the meaning of a text can change over time. The basic themes/motifs of innocence, isolation, longing, etc are still seen today. Depending on the social situations of the time, however, there meaning does change. I also think that the interpretation of the text changes over time. How we interpret the meaning will definitely change over time as well.]]> 2018-03-09 20:20:47 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240357504 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240358862 ~Brianna 
I agree that the main basis of the meaning has to remain the same throughout time and I believe the purpose of this book is to detail into Trond's life story and everything he learned from to attempt to teach the readers the lessons he has learned. I believe the interpretation may differ based on the cultural expectations such as family relationships, social constructs, etc. that may just alter the meaning slightly but not completely change it. ]]> 2018-03-09 20:24:37 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240358862 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240359430 The non-consecutive order of events is extremely valuable because it follows a much more natural storyline. Trond just gets to express his thoughts in a nice, reflective order, explaining everything he encounters at fits into his train of thought. It doesn't feel forced. It flows, allowing him to effectively explain his life as a whole. It makes it easier to piece together the puzzle of his life. Not only is he able to tell a story as it unfolds, but he can make it much more impactful by placing the reader into a similar situation of uncertainty as what the character was in.]]> 2018-03-09 20:26:23 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240359430 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240360427 Why do you think it’s important that Trond is older and has flashbacks to his youth? Do you think he is longing for youth, or do you think he is simply reflecting on the fuller life he had?]]> 2018-03-09 20:29:15 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240360427 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240360480 In the beginning of 1930s and 1940s women still had smaller roles in society. This role is reflected in Out Stealing Horses. We don't have the perspective or view points of any women. Jon's mother probably has the biggest role, much bigger than Trond's own mother.  The women we do see have very little relationship with the main male characters.
http://americanhistory1940-50.blogspot.com/p/role-of-women-during-1940s.html]]> 2018-03-09 20:29:25 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240360480 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240362240  Authors all have their own writing style (obviously), but as far as changing the chronological order of the text, I believe that it may be important if the order is based off of importance and whether or not it adds to the text. If readers aren’t given certain information until later on, it adds to the perspective. If it adds to the suspense or understanding of the text, I believe the order could be extremely powerful in how the text is viewed.]]> 2018-03-09 20:34:38 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240362240 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240362283 Just kidding, but seriously, everything you've said makes sense. I think that the meaning of this text will remain very similar to what it was because it deals with so many deep human themes like insignificance and connection with nature. I don't think that this is something that will easily shift too far over time. However, I do believe that our perception of nature and isolation will absolutely shift as the world becomes more connected and developed. It's already changed a lot since the events in the book took place, so I wouldn't be too surprise to see it change now.]]> 2018-03-09 20:34:44 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240362283 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240520241 I agree that it is very important that we acknowledge that fact that women had very little say in this time period and they were often over looked in society. That being said, I think it's also important to appreciate the manner in which Jon's mother specifically was presented. Throughout the book she was seen as a strong woman who handled herself with poise even while getting the job done.]]> 2018-03-11 04:25:33 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240520241 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240520548 I do not agree that the meaning of a text is fixed and does not change over time. The meaning of any text is different to every single person that reads it and even the author who wrote it. People are constantly changing their thoughts and ways of living and I believe that the message that an individual takes from a set of words can absolutely change.]]> 2018-03-11 04:31:46 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/240520548 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241115439 I agree with Sawyer. I think it’s worth noting that though Trond’s dad left Trond’s mom, we never get her perspective. She is painted as a distant and somber mother and there seems to be little indication of how she responded to her husband leaving her. I think this reflects the time period, and moreover culture during 1948, when Trond was experiencing this. ]]> 2018-03-12 20:43:05 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241115439 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241182811 I believe that literature is a voice for the oppressed. I believe that the loudest voices are often the only one's listened to at times but with literature anyone's voice can be heard. We also see in Out Stealing Horses that Trond has a very difficult time relaying his emotions to others but through his writing, the reader is able to fully grasp what he is feeling but not able to convey to the outside world.]]> 2018-03-13 02:16:43 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241182811 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241183592 I agree that women aren't fully represented in this text but I feel as if it was to emphasize the "man of the house" motif throughout the book. Trond didn't focus on any of the women too hard because the mans role, in his opinion, was far more important than what women were capable of.]]> 2018-03-13 02:21:02 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241183592 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241199191 I pretty much agree with everything you guys said...soooooo uh here it goes. The way people view things are always changing. Opinions, social norms etc. is something that will forever be evolving, so I think that it is safe to say that the meaning of certain texts will continue to change over time as well, even from reader to reader. Even two people reading the book at the same time can draw different messages from it. So no, I do not think the meaning of a text is fixed.]]> 2018-03-13 04:06:37 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241199191 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241199854 I completely agree. Trond is all alone, living out the rest of his life in solitude with no one to tell his stories to but himself. Maybe recounting these times makes him feel as though he is not alone? (off topic, I know). Back to my point, Trond isn't necessarily oppressed, but rather unheard.]]> 2018-03-13 04:11:53 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241199854 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241413386 I completely agree with you, I feel like if the book was written anyother  way it would be hard to understand and see how his life events unfolded. Being able to see the flashbacks allow you to see what makes him who he is. ]]> 2018-03-13 14:48:35 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241413386 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241519020 I agree with the idea that Trond doesn't necessarily seem oppressed, in voice or being. I think he created his isolation for a reason, not to feel caged in and oppressed, rather the opposite and feel free. His whole life was surrounded by trauma to the point where it encompassed his life, and I think by creating isolation for himself later in life gave him the freedom to breathe and no longer constantly worry about what was going to hurt him next. I think by being alone he was finally able to break down the protective barriers he held up his whole life, which is contrary to most who think he created walls through isolation.

]]> 2018-03-13 17:20:04 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241519020 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241522954 I like the point you made about significance rather than in chronological order. I think that it is important in a novel like this one to address significant events sooner rather than later because it allows the narrator to go back and reflect and build meaning from the original significance rather than just state event in a chronological order in a matter-of-fact manner. 

]]> 2018-03-13 17:26:07 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241522954 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241947024 I agree! I don't necessarily think that the order matters as much as the fact that the flashbacks are showing who he is, and how he has grown up. The order does give the book a more interesting plot, and gives the second read of the book more likely to show connections between events, but I don't know if the order really matters that much.  ]]> 2018-03-14 15:38:17 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241947024 https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241949663 I do think it is important to note how little role women had in the time period, and in the story. The women do not affect Trond, at all. And, the only time we really see women is in a negative light. This is when Lar's mom makes him kill the dog because he is the man of the household. We also see when his wife makes him lose all confidence in himself after making love to her. These all prove women's roles were limited, and not in high regard during the time period.]]> 2018-03-14 15:42:14 UTC https://padlet.com/katie_mastroianni/tewhd3rlw3uu/wish/241949663