https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu Choi - Greer en-us 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC 2023-06-02 17:56:48 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-uploads.storage.googleapis.com/1857737561/d8558634b8adcd4e8735bc797fe3c5ef/BFADE986_8F4C_40F6_B876_7C5E16712E2E.jpg 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508784 Meeting 1 Date: Tuesday, April 25
Pages / Section: Pages 1-52

Meeting 2 Date: Wednesday, May 3
Pages / Section: Pages 52- 126 

Meeting 3 Date: Thursday, May 11
Pages / Section: Pages 126- 207 

Meeting 4 Date: Friday, May 19
Pages / Section: Pages 207-288]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508784 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508786 Section/Pages: 52-126
Members Present: Alex and Ed

Discussion Highlights:
- Should kids be exposed to reality unfiltered? Should ignorance keep them at peace?
- Those who tell the kids the truth will lose their job like Miss Lucy.
- Is life worth living when it is a lie?
- We believe the purpose of life is to contribute to society in a positive manner and leave a lasting impact. However is harvesting organs of cloned humans necessary for society.
- Children cope with disappointment in different ways. Tommy’s method of anger is not positive in most cases.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508786 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508787 It seems that the idea of creativity plays a large part in this story. Does creativity prove to be a defining characteristic for Kathy throughout the novel?

]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508787 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508788 As students, we must understand that from our own experiences many students are struggling with fitting into ideals valued by society. Why does creativity take up such a high place at Hailsham.


]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508788 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508789 Question that will incite deep conversation: What is the reason that the students at Hailsham are kept away from the truth of being a donor?


]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508789 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508791 1. Our group discussed the importance of childhood and education, as we can see how these children are conditioned over time to see no problem in their fast approaching fate.
2. We had strong group discussions regarding how censorship are employed in our own lives as well as the characters in the story. We worked extremely well together and stayed on task the entire class.
3. Despite our strong performances there is one area in which we could have improved. Both of us should have spoken more about the thematic meaning in the plot so far. ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508791 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508793 Section/Pages: 126-207
Members Present: Alex and Ed

Discussion Highlights:
- we discussed the importance of conforming or being unique to society. What holds more value to progress.
- A main point was the result of this idea of a means to an end. What is justified? 
- The cruel reality of a good for society always comes at a price. As disturbing as the organ donation system in the dystopian society was we have similar sacrifices for the “greater good.”
- Who gets to determine when the meads justify the ends to a good? Is it right for a society to pursue the end over the means. 
- Was it necessary for the donors to be kept in the dark about their plans?]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508793 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508794 “There were times I’d look down on you all from my study window and I’d feel such revulsion...”
This quote shows the complexity behind any kind of action. While the actions of the guardians seemed like they were all bad people, Miss Emily showed that some people were influenced by social pressure to practice the same harvesting of organs. In fact Miss Emily felt compassionate for the kids. She believed that if she stopped her job the kids would be sent to a more cruel guardian. What is the problem or good in this situation?]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508794 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508797 In the story this idea of conformity is the reason why a society could accept such a Morally wrong practice.


]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508797 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508798 At this point of the story emotional development of diverse groups of individuals begin to emerge. As we see the view of the guardian who turns out feels some emotion for her actions. This suggests that the individuals mostly all feel some levels of empathy. However they are all following through a mob mentality. They seem to need a unique individual to lead them away from conformity.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508798 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508800 1. Going past the rhetorical choices Ishiguro made the sheer impact of the plot climaxing to this revelation after small hints is satisfying. The point of this quote was to inspire a hope in any group of people who face oppression by a stronger power. While the donors have been conditioned to think in a certain way some guardians are conscious of what they are doing. In fact the complexity in this is that Miss Emily has been fully aware in what she has been doing. However it can be inferred that she could not bear to watch the children be sent off to more harsh guardians. Miss Emily recognizes that her action of showing some emotion is more helpful than being silent. This can be seen in our society in almost any matter that may be debated. From the issue of abortion to border crisis there are people who conform to societal expectations instead of standing up. Unfortunately Miss Emily did not bring herself to do more however her effort preserved her morality. -From my reading journal. I used this specific reflection because it is the best reflection I can make on this section as I wrote this reflection as I was reading. The genuine emotions are apparent in the reflection.
 
2. Today in the meeting we discussed many different approaches to psychology. The main focus was on the idea of why people feel the need to conform to a model. We related this concept to Huckleberry Finn and the mob scene with the sheriff. We noticed how similar events will occur repeatedly as it is in a humans nature to follow each other. We shared how this could impact the future. Through this we came to the realization that history is vital as it can prevent future disasters made by humans. While the plot of Never Let Me Go may see far fetched it could happen.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508800 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508802 Section/Pages: 207-288
Members Present: Ed and Alex

Discussion Highlights:
-  We discussed the resolution of the climax where there was no happy ending. The brilliance of the writing was the fact that to tie the lesson to a close the ending was tragic. A tragic ending to a tragic life which is less far fetched than most people realize.
- We also grew our interest in possibly watching the movie adaptation. We watched the trailer and it seemed pretty cool.
-We tied the book together by describing what we enjoyed about the story and what our least favorite parts were.
- We both agreed that the best part of the book was when Miss Emily reveals her complex character towards the later part of the story.
- We disliked that the book felt slow in the beginning. It took time to get going but a lot of great books have the same style.


]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508802 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508803
“I saw a new world coming rapidly. More scientific,… more cure old sickness. Very Good. But a harsh, cruel world. And I saw a little girl, holding to her breast the old kind world, one that she knew in her heart could not remain, and she was holding it and pleading, never to let her go.”
- I notice that this quote seems to be the most relevant to our society. The subtle hints to our culture where there is a constant struggle between right and wrong. With the most groundbreaking discoveries there are many sacrifices and challenges along the way. ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508803 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508804 I want to discuss the issue of how relevant this story it to our society’s. I also feel like there are some more subtle themes to this book. Beyond the story of morals and sadness there must be a new level.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508804 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508805 We should discuss some contemporary examples of a societal practices that could evolve into something more twisted like the organ donation system in Never Let Me Go. ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508805 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508808 -As our final meeting of not only this book but the year comes to a close we are grateful for the opportunities and time we were given to grow as readers. We found increasing levels of enjoyment for reading after each book.
-We spoke about how we felt going into this book and how our perspective on our culture’s current state is.
-Overall we did a very good job working together and improving each-other through intellectual communication.
- Since this was a bookclub we worked well being it was just the two of us. ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508808 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508813 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508813 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508815 Section/Pages: Pages 1-52
Members Present: Alex and Ed

Discussion Highlights:
- General work and layout for this project.
- Basic set up protocol 
- Assigned reading hw for every meeting.
- Managing expectations 
- From the moment we read the first few pages it was clear that  Ishiguro wrote in a way that brought suspense and haze into the plot. We know that this book will be filled with surprises that will reveal a dystopian society.


]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508815 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508817 Group Members form up]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508817 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508821 Start reading pages ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508821 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508823 Group Members order book]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508823 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508824 1. Catch up with reading
2. Come to next class having read 2 cycles worth of reading,
3. Enjoy the reading]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508824 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508827 Do your part in all work.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508827 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508829 Communication is key to a group’s success.]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508829 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508830 Try your best!]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508830 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508831 Name: Alex Choi
Email: 24075Ac@chaminade-hs.org

Name: Ed Greer
Email: 24181Eg@chaminade-hs.org ]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508831 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508833 https://forms.gle/hoLc39eUwn3ARRoe8]]> 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508833 24075ac https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508834 2022-10-20 17:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/24075ac/tdy7667zi7av25vu/wish/2349508834