Week 1: Teaching When the World is on Fire by Jessica Patti https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk Using what you learned in your reading this week, share your thoughts on this image with your colleagues. en-us 2020-07-06 02:27:19 UTC 2024-10-15 01:17:34 UTC hello@padlet.com jpatti https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/647961673 2020-07-06 02:30:51 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/647961673 Equity scorbett19 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/648266645 The need to adjust to what individual needs may be.
Equality is given the same box in this situation. Equity is giving what an individual needs during a shared experience. I question the fence remaining the same in both images. could the fence also change to meet the needs of the individuals?
Who is responsible for these changes in the picture?


]]> 2020-07-06 12:41:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/648266645 Equity https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/648284145 This picture illustrates that equity is not about giving every person the same exact thing. It is about giving every person what they need to participate in a shared experience.]]> 2020-07-06 13:07:39 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/648284145 ldavis151 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/649481492 Equity and equality do not mean the same thing. Equality means that everyone is given the same amount, or given the same thing. Equity in this picture means that everyone is given what they need based on their individual needs. Thinking about the first section about politics, I wish that as a kid politics had been discussed more. I now feel uncomfortable with conflict and political discussions because I have had little experience with it, and I've never wanted to offend anyone. If we are teaching students all the same things, and not thinking about the impact that might make on different people we are not necessarily being equitable. ]]> 2020-07-07 19:39:01 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/649481492 Equity abushee1 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/649628651 This picture reminds me of what we might say in the classroom "everyone gets what they need to learn and grow."  I don''t know that that is an accurate representation of society or even education as a whole.]]> 2020-07-08 00:05:52 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/649628651 stroy3 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650206445 I think this image does a nice job of representing the difference between equality and equity, but I think it over simplifies the solutions to providing equity. I don't think there are any "quick fixes" to providing racial equity in our classrooms, although there are certainly steps we can start taking to bring us closer.]]> 2020-07-08 15:33:19 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650206445 Equity vs Equality sthornton37 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650255715 Interesting picture... How does one obtain a box? Does one need to give up a box for all to a sufficient number of boxes? Is there a finite number of boxes, and if so, who determines how they're distributed?]]> 2020-07-08 16:24:09 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650255715 Equity jnatusch https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650268978 The piece that I think is missing from this image is the one we often see in UDL where the children are looking through a chainlink fence with no boxes. In this way, the barriers are removed and everyone is able to participate. I think that true equity cannot be reached by merely providing supports. We need to make society and education something that everyone can participate in no matter what their identity is. 

A quote that really stuck out to me as I was reading was:
"Every human being is of infinite and incalculable value, each a work-in-progress and a force-in-motion, a unique intellectual, emotional, physical, spiritual, moral, and creative agent, each endowed with reason and conscience, each deserving a dedicated place in a community of solidarity as well as a vital sense of brotherhood and sisterhood, recognition and respect" (7). I think this highlights the idea that rather than "raising people up" we need to capitalize on their strengths because that is what can make us all stronger as a whole.]]> 2020-07-08 16:40:53 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650268978 kscott140 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650343541 I recently read something about this image and how it really doesn't represent the problem accurately, especially in consideration of racism. The author of the piece talks about how the image makes it seem like the short person is somehow less or inadequate and needs more help, but really the image should show three people who are the same height and the problem is that the ground is not level. That is a better representation of inequities of race because it shows how the system itself is to blame and some people are starting at a different point, not  because of their innate qualities, but because the system has been created to put some at a disadvantage. 

I think Bill Ayers would agree with that assessment based on two quotes on page 9 "the system is organized to miseducate these children, and it includes the shameful lack of resources...and arcane rules and routines that result predictably in social shaming and widespread exclusions." AND "We disavow the dismal American habit that blames both poverty and racism on the imagined behaviors or poor and Black people."]]> 2020-07-08 18:14:15 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650343541 Picture Reflection camirault https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650406807 Having seen this picture before, and the most recent being during the METCO meeting two years ago, the most equitable situation would be one in where the wall is removed entirely.

In this illustration, the people go from getting what is all equal (the same) to getting what they need. The work we are challenged with now is getting everyone what they need, though I still believe tearing down the wall is the best bet! My shift in knowledge and thinking and identifying unconscious biases may be easier than that of a Southern US person raised in an environment with everyday outward acts and words of racism. 

My hope is to find the greatest strength to engage in these conversations with my students. I want to follow what is said by Mica Pollock in the essay "Standing Up Against Hate." I want to know that I have the support of my colleagues and administration when discussing these issues in school and defending my actions to parents. If we wait until someone thinks kids are old enough to handle and process these conversations, it will be too late.]]> 2020-07-08 19:42:17 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650406807 GOOGLE MEET ANYONE? camirault https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650417126 Hello fellow readers,
Jess has given permission for those of us that would like to to participate in a Google Meet once a week to discuss the book. A notetaker would be responsible for creating a post here on the padlet which contained the group's biggest takeaways from the week's reading and our names. I'm definitely a person that reflects about books better when talking than typing. If you'd like to form a group, please let me know if any of the proposed days/times works for you in the comments. Thank you! -Cindy

A. Tuesdays: 10-11
B. Wednesdays: 10-11
C. Tuesdays: 2-3
D. Wednesdays: 2-3
E. Other (offer suggestions)]]> 2020-07-08 19:57:40 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650417126 Equity and equality swall2 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650715579 I think the two pictures provide a good way to understand the difference between these two ideas. But the idea of equity is much more easily understood when it's transparent. Height is easily identified and able to be measured or evaluated. Equity is extremely difficult to attain when we are unable to determine what factors influence our students or perhaps even unknowing that we need to understand this. I think that this was a major point in the first section of the book. We have to be better at recognizing and eliminating privilege and racism. We have to keep kids safe and encourage kids to think of other perspectives. We have to value each student and allow them to create and model the behavior we desire. Finally, in this section, it puts forth the idea that to make real change, we must not only change ourselves but change others. This idea stuck with me the most. It's great what I take away from this book, but if I don't apply it to my classroom, it's not enough.]]> 2020-07-09 04:49:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/650715579 Equity rloewald https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/651036604 I think this picture representation of equality vs. equity is pretty powerful and connects back to our reading in important ways. The power of educators in providing and insisting on equity for students is highlighted throughout the first section in the book while also recognizing that the true change will be in eliminating the fence entirely. That being said, while we are still working in a system that may create these walls in the first place and it is imperative that we work to dismantle that oppression and those barriers, we also still do have powerful agency as teachers in the system itself. The quote from Ayers' essay stood out to me here "I may be an agent of the system or of the state for several hours a day, but I'm a free agent the rest of the time, and I squeeze every drop of life and light out of each moment of freedom - that's where I'm the teacher I truly want to be" (4). ]]> 2020-07-09 14:26:45 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/651036604 aspies2 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/651187519 Didn't Cyndy Taymore use this image at the beginning of the year once? I think she added the fence being taken down picture. I googled the image and found this article about the evolution of the image. I liked the article by Justin Christensen about a frame work for teaching in 45's era. It is important to break down barriers. ]]> 2020-07-09 17:35:33 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/651187519 agillette4 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652361329 Looking at this image in light of the reading, I think what struck me is that discussing the height differences and different box necessities has been made political, when it is just face. Providing equity, or eliminating the barrier altogether are much more difficult if we are in a system that insists that discussing them or acknowledging their existence at all is "political" and therefore "doesn't belong in a classroom." ]]> 2020-07-11 17:57:03 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652361329 ksimpson20 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652649437 Looking at the picture, it reminds me a lot of how I approach working with the students on my caseload. The picture for equality reminds me of a "one size fits all method" which as we all know does not work. While the picture of equity, shows that students get what they need to be successful. However, I do not feel that this same picture can truly represent racial equity. The path to racial equity is different for everyone with many things to be done/changed. I feel like the boxes do not represent the change that must happen enough.]]> 2020-07-12 15:35:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652649437 rdileo https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652737609 I have seen this picture before many times and thought, "Oh, now I get it." It seems so simple. People should get what they need to make their opportunities equitable. Then I think about transferring it to my teaching and it is no longer that simple. I wish I could just move boxes to give everyone the same opportunities. Understanding and learning what our students/peers need in order to give us all "equity" is a more difficult that I could have imagined. I feel very inept when it comes to talking about racial equity. ]]> 2020-07-12 20:13:28 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652737609 Equity adettore https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652752067 To me, this photo represents fairness- giving each person the appropriate and just supports (different size boxes) to access
 viewing the game. Equality (same size boxes) is not equitable.]]> 2020-07-12 20:59:25 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652752067 Picture Reflection (Anne Zaccardi) https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652905943 I've seen the picture before as many have mentioned as a visual representation that "fair" does not always mean "the same." What's fair is that everyone gets what they need to be successful. I just saw someone explain the fact that the larger issue is the fact that a fence was built at all- a fence to keep certain people out. If the fence is taken down, people may still be stuck in their ways, think it was better with a fence, wonder why everything needs to change, etc. However, if the fence was never put up in the first place, people would have never felt displaced and the boxes as a way of being equitable become unnecessary. 
I also agree with others that boxes seem to oversimplify the solution and we know that as teachers, there is so much that goes into every plan when it comes to equity in education. 

]]> 2020-07-13 02:48:49 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/652905943 After reading this week, the first thing that comes to mind with this image is that on the left, these three people get equal supports but not equal access; on the right, they get different supports that make the view equitable amongst the three of them, but still none of them have the same access that the other fans in the stadium do. For it to be racial equity, I would think the three people (and all others who wish to attend) would be on the other side of the fence viewing with everyone else. The fence needs to be taken down altogether. I know - much easier said than done. ccarman5 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/653624870 2020-07-13 21:37:05 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/653624870 Picture Reflection skornacki https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/654155901 I, like many others, have seen this picture many times. I feel that is a good visual representation of equality vs. equity. After reading others' reflections on this Padlet, I am beginning to think about the larger picture. I wonder why the artist chose a playing field. Is this meant to represent the society we live in? Going off of one of Jess's comments on someone else's post, why are the people outside the field? Do they need to do something to be let in? I have lots of thoughts about this picture and feel like I will continue to reference this illustration throughout the book study!]]> 2020-07-14 13:26:44 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/654155901 Equity and Equality reflection laherne1 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/655211537 The picture for equality represents the false notion that if everyone receives the same thing, all will benefit. 

The picture on the right for equity shows all three people receiving the same view and having what they need in order to see the field the same way their peers are. However, standing on crates may not be as comfortable for two of them.

I agree with my colleagues’ posts in that if the fence wasn’t there to begin with, there wouldn’t have been a problem in the first place. There wouldn’t be a need for supports because inequity was thought of and the barrier to their view wouldn’t exist. 

]]> 2020-07-15 15:31:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/655211537 Equity & Equality ngoodhue https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/658621296 I've seen this image multiple times but I'm not sure how I feel about it now.  I think it's great for it's simplicity but equity is more complex than that.  I have a hard time telling students that all of our needs are different and we work to make sure that everyone gets what they need to learn and grow.  As a district, we've grown tremendously with our UDL practices and I think that helps with some "academic equity".  After reading however, I am concerned with how far we have come as a society and how it seems that some things have not changed at all when considering racial equity.  This is something that will take awhile to achieve but it's important that our schools are the ones to practice it and teach others. It will only spread if it originates from somewhere else first.

]]> 2020-07-20 19:22:42 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/658621296 Sarah Haney https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/662395479 Providing everyone with the same support is not necessarily meeting their needs. Consideration needs to be given on what the need is, and then providing the necessary tools to increase the potential for sucess. ]]> 2020-07-25 16:19:51 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/662395479 Boxes mcrooks4 https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/663469303 I think in terms of Matthew Kay's Not Light, But Fire, this drawing illustrates the difference between 'talking about racial equity' and doing something about it. Too often, according to Kay (and Frederick Douglas from whom the title of the book comes) we Americans talk about equality in ways that serve little purpose in actually advancing the progress of people of color. The idea of finding constructive ways to overcome institutional racism seems to be the overall message of this comic. I do wonder if Mr. Kay wouldn't express a bit of frustration about how this comic portrays that as a process - he strikes me as a thinker as someone unimpressed with simple solutions to complex problems.]]> 2020-07-27 17:32:38 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/663469303 Picture Reflection https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/671551415 First off, I love this picture. I have used it many times before in a lesson with my students. I think it really highlights the difference between fair and equal. I think it is easy to assume, especially in a classroom, that everyone should get the "same things." In reality, it is not that everyone should get the same, but that everyone should get what they need. Students, parents, and even teachers can have a hard time seeing the difference. I like that this picture puts the saying into a visual. It allows a deeper meaning when thinking of the difference between the two. 
After reading and thinking, I am seeing new things I have not thought of before. For example, the difference between the crowd IN the park and the 3 people behind the fence. There is a huge difference there. Not only are the people in the park sitting and enjoying the game, to some degree it must mean they have a financial difference. The people in the park can afford to buy a ticket while the people out the outside are doing just that - watching from the outside. 
-Caitlin Briere]]> 2020-08-06 17:06:21 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/671551415 Equity vs.Equality https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/691172038 We as educators need to understand the real need of meeting different students where they are at and providing them with what each of them needs. It is not about giving everyone the same thing, that does no good. The key is to meet students where they are and identify what each level of need is so that we can provide what is needed.]]> 2020-08-21 12:14:13 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/691172038 TuccREsponse https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/692221749 I think this image is a great conversation starter in equality vs. equity but as you delve into this topic you will realized how oversimplified the graphic is. Does the fence look the same to everyone? What about the game? do they need boxes? could it be an alternative? where did the boxes come from? these metaphorical questions all have complex real life answers or ideas and I believe that is the work that we are doing.]]> 2020-08-21 19:02:43 UTC https://padlet.com/jpatti/tba9pvf1wdiqj7lk/wish/692221749