https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf Thomas Jefferson vs Alexander Hamilton debate en-us 2021-01-12 19:00:23 UTC 2025-05-22 08:41:36 UTC hello@padlet.com christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080263295 Hello, I represent the Anti-Federalists, and my name is Thomas Jefferson. I was born april 13th, 1743.]]> 2021-01-12 19:13:56 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080263295 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080296521 Hello I represent  federalist and my name is alexander hamilton. I was born on the 11th of january 1755.]]> 2021-01-12 19:20:16 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080296521 christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080302014 I believe before we ratify a constitution we make sure everyone has their own individual rights, and that a federal government would cause us to end up just like our past leaders, so I believe we should not ratify the constitution.]]> 2021-01-12 19:21:18 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080302014 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080323886 I feel that we definatly do not  have enough time to make rights for the people. We can do that afterwards, the articles of confederation need to be gone imediatly. Also the constitution will help better take care of our debt and fund wars in the future. The new constitution will also let us tax and have banks. ]]> 2021-01-12 19:25:24 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080323886 christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080371170 Even if our articles of confederation were horrible we need to ensure the rights of every person in this land, the rich and wealthy can't be the only ones with rights and power, the little guys need some power as well. And if we rush this it will end up just like those same articles you criticize.]]> 2021-01-12 19:34:55 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080371170 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080386705 I know we are rushing it but we can put the constitution out now and then edit it. Also, people that have more money have more money to get a better education so they are most of the time smarter. People without a lot of money dont have as good of an education therefore the opposite takes place. ]]> 2021-01-12 19:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080386705 christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080406155 And going back to your mentioning of banks earlier, the constitution is giving the country too much power if it can control all of the wealth and how people's money is controlled within the banks. I believe each state should control the banks because your plan will bring more power to the upper-class aristocrats.]]> 2021-01-12 19:42:07 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080406155 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080920648 I see what you are saying but it would be very complicated to have each state have separate banks. It would be much more simple to have one central country bank the the government controls. And when you say it gives the government a lot of power, it does but that´s why we have a democracy not a monarchy.]]> 2021-01-12 22:05:49 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080920648 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080982716 On the subject of the the french war against spain great brittan and holland we should stay neutral. You May say that we need to that we need to honor our treaty but that was with the king not the french republic which is the one fighting the war.]]> 2021-01-12 22:39:02 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1080982716 christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084588249 But we need some form of allies for this new nation, and France is a very powerful one. We obviously wouldn't try to ally with Great Britain, we just came out of war with them, France is our best bet.]]> 2021-01-13 19:06:43 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084588249 christophershockey https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084612290 I would just like to end off this argument saying, we need to make sure everyone in our country has their own individual rights, and keep the power more towards the bottom than having one big powerful government. The states know whats best for their own region because they are more involved with it, how would someone up in Philadelphia know whats best for the people virginia.]]> 2021-01-13 19:11:56 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084612290 https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084635607 My final counter argument is: it would be much harder to control the country and keep it in order if the states governed themselves. We should eliminate the state governments entirely. Certain parts of the government would know what is best for each state because each state elects representatives. And the people can feel free to voice their concerns by peacefully protesting. That way we can get the opinion of the people.]]> 2021-01-13 19:17:02 UTC https://padlet.com/christophershockey/t4clwqmtzmhaflkf/wish/1084635607