Blink Chapter One Back Channel Discussion by Aubrey Robertson

Jinu Kim

2018-03-05 18:36:04 UTC

My prep

Andrew Wang

2018-03-05 18:36:07 UTC

Cindy Lee

2018-03-05 18:36:08 UTC

Elizabeth Koller

2018-03-05 18:36:13 UTC

Angela Lee

angeglee17 — 2018-03-05 18:36:15 UTC

Lisa Okooboh

2018-03-05 18:36:17 UTC

Andy

2018-03-05 18:36:20 UTC

Sophia Schieltz

2018-03-05 18:36:20 UTC

Ella Bower

2018-03-05 18:36:21 UTC

Emily Miller

enm14007 — 2018-03-05 18:36:23 UTC

Michael Kim

2018-03-05 18:36:25 UTC

Izzy Nolton

2018-03-05 18:36:26 UTC

Kyle Zemel

2018-03-05 18:36:27 UTC

Mrs. Chaffin please replace my original Socratic grade.

Arjun

2018-03-05 18:36:29 UTC

Deirdre Weissman

2018-03-05 18:36:31 UTC

Divya Mallemadugula

2018-03-05 18:36:39 UTC

This is my discussion prep

Luis Da Silva

2018-03-05 18:37:22 UTC

Katie Cooper

2018-03-05 18:37:22 UTC

Dube

2018-03-05 18:37:30 UTC

Daria Molkova

2018-03-05 18:37:33 UTC

Rishabh Rege

rishabhrege — 2018-03-05 18:37:42 UTC

Andrew Wang

2018-03-05 18:38:25 UTC

Cayden Shapiro

2018-03-05 18:38:43 UTC

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 18:39:04 UTC

Sade Major

2018-03-05 18:39:09 UTC

Lisa Okooboh Part 2 Prep Notes

2018-03-05 18:41:18 UTC

Aiden

2018-03-05 18:41:20 UTC

Cindy Lee

2018-03-05 18:41:37 UTC

Emily Miller

2018-03-05 18:41:41 UTC

Emily Miller

2018-03-05 18:42:22 UTC

Deirdre Weissman

2018-03-05 18:42:28 UTC

Lulu Sui

2018-03-05 18:42:32 UTC

Brian Ramirez

2018-03-05 18:42:32 UTC

Kyle Zemel

2018-03-05 18:42:36 UTC

On page 23 It shows them watching a couples reaction, "He liked their old dog, he said. He just didn't like their new dog." He keeps some secrets from his wife but only strangers know that because the wife thin slices and see that he talks great about the old dog and didn't mention the new one. She thinks by thin slicing that he is a dog lover.

olivia hillhouse

o_hilly26 — 2018-03-05 18:43:44 UTC

Luis Da Silva

2018-03-05 18:44:17 UTC

Please replace this with my past Socratic seminar grade

hayden_gardner — 2018-03-05 18:45:20 UTC

Daria Molkova

2018-03-05 18:45:36 UTC

For me, the most interesting part of chapter 1 was that thin-slicing is an essential skill. As quoted on page 44, "We thin slice whenever we meet a new person or have to make sense of something quickly" (Blink). This relates back to our unconscious mind's interpretation of a situation.

Hayden Gardner

hayden_gardner — 2018-03-05 18:46:20 UTC

2018-03-05 18:48:42 UTC

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Sajan

2018-03-05 18:48:46 UTC

Cindy Lee

2018-03-05 18:49:06 UTC

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 18:49:13 UTC

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 18:49:27 UTC

Sajan Parikh

2018-03-05 18:49:59 UTC

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 18:51:19 UTC

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 18:52:05 UTC

Arjun

2018-03-05 18:52:29 UTC

Over the years powerful speakers have been known to show powerful hand movements while speaking to emphasis certain points. Some have thought this hand movement is what makes them such effective speakers. For example, on box 35 of "Getting a Grip", the author gives an example of how Adolf Hitler was such an effective speaker because of his hand movement. The author goes on to say that Hitler was filmed practicing hand movement to become an even more effective speaker. Do you think that hand movement really makes that much more of a difference?

Angela Lee

angeglee17 — 2018-03-05 18:52:50 UTC

Do we make more decisions with our unconscious mind than our conscious mind? According to Getting a Grip on page one, "An understanding of hand behavior is crucial to decoding nonverbal behaviors..either consciously or subconsciously." Something as little as hand gestures can determine how others perceive you. However, although we do many things without thinking, we still have control over how we control ourselves. Serial killers are successfully able to manipulate others to believe a certain way. How much can humans control their own behavior?

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 18:53:06 UTC

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 18:53:19 UTC

i forgot who said it earlier but a couple of people said that Bill will want to end up in a divorce but on page 24 it does say "he was cross-complaining and engaging in "yes-but"

Aiden

2018-03-05 18:53:26 UTC

Replying to Hayden, on page 24, it shows some of the most important information, such as revealing the things the scientists looked for when analyzing Bill and Sue. While saying "at no time as the conversation continued did either of them show any overt signs of hostility." he also said that Sue's closing/rolling of the eyes (lots of body language) were signs of contempt which is, as said later in the book on page 33, the worst sign to show. "Contempt is closely related to disgust, and what disgust and contempt are about is completely rejecting and excluding someone from the community." This shows lots that body language can really show exactly what someone is saying rather than the word choice they use.

Cayden Shapiro

2018-03-05 18:54:58 UTC

I agree with what people are talking about in the discussion. They are saying that you can tell a lot about people in a very short amount of time by thin slicing and paying attention to body language and other signs. I agree and believe that first impressions are very important and can tell you a lot about someone.

Rishabh

rishabhrege — 2018-03-05 18:55:04 UTC

Responding to Angela: According to Malcolm Gladwell ,"much of the time, we are simply operating on automatic pilot, and the way we think and act." (Gladwell 58). This means that yes, we use our unconscious mind more than conscious, without realizing it.

brian ramirez

2018-03-05 18:55:36 UTC

i agree, nonverbal communication is an important part of thin-slicing because you can see how someone expresses emotion with their hands.

Sajan Parikh

2018-03-05 18:56:09 UTC

Facial expressions also play a big role in thin slicing. If someone always has their head up and is smiling then someone assume they are happy and doing well. But, if someone has their head down and frowning then they seem to be sad and thinking over things. In a TED talk, Von Edward said, "smiling makes you look smarter."

Rishabh

rishabhrege — 2018-03-05 18:58:36 UTC

Question: According to Lea Winerman of the American Psychological Association, "We can all be social dunces--oblivious to these nuances." This means that our first judgement can always be flawed. However, in the introduction of Blink, long term judgement can be flawed as well. Should we focus on our judgement based on thin-slicing or "thick-slicing"?

olivia

o_hilly26 — 2018-03-05 19:00:01 UTC

on page 21, Blink says "the couples have been videotaped , and are being analyzed..." how long does it take to analyze these videos?

Divya Mallemadugula

2018-03-05 19:00:24 UTC

Going off of what Emily has said, I do think that thin-slicing can explain a lot about a person's character. According to Psychology Today, "It only takes a tenth of a second to form a judgement about another person's character." I think if you don't know much about a person, you observe the little things they do that show their personalities. If you already know the person, you have a impression of them already, so it is hard to change what you think about the person.

Dube Anyanwutaku

2018-03-05 19:00:26 UTC

Why do you think the strangers were able to find out more than there friends?
I believe that with friends you have already made a special connection to them. Friends might know, but it only goes through their unconscious mind. Strangers are fully aware and disregard there emotions when they are examining the friend.

Katie Cooper

2018-03-05 19:01:18 UTC

What types of body language do you think would help someone read another person's life?

Cayden Shapiro

2018-03-05 19:02:58 UTC

Arjun

2018-03-05 19:03:09 UTC

“Despite the acquisition of spoken language over millions of years of human evolution, our brains are still hardwired to engage our hands in accurately communicating our emotions, thoughts, and sentiments.” - Getting A Grip. This quote shows that even though we have learned to speak as a baby, from the beginning we have spoken with our body and this still continues today. Our emotions, thoughts and sentiments are shown from our body movement.

Cayden Shapiro

2018-03-05 19:03:20 UTC

Sade Major

2018-03-05 19:04:42 UTC

On page 25 Gladwell begins to say "Even though he started to validate her, he went on to say that he didn't like the dog. He's really being defensive." Bill is being really defensive by contradicting his own answers. He begins to agree with Sue and then starts to get defensive. Do you agree that Bill is being defensive towards Sue?

Angela Lee

angeglee17 — 2018-03-05 19:04:58 UTC

Answering Katie's question, I believe there are positive and negative types of body language. Positive attitudes include maintaining eye contact, smiling, and using hand gestures. According to Getting a Gap on page 2, "People may regard you with suspicion if they can't see your hands while you are talking." Negative body language includes having your arms crossed, avoiding eye contact, and lowering your head. People with negative body languages may have had a bad day.

Cayden Shapiro

2018-03-05 19:05:07 UTC

Ella Bower

2018-03-05 19:06:30 UTC

In page 24 Bill engaged in the conversation by saying "yes-but". At first glance you can see that the couple is happy and they acknowledge each others views. Then again Bill is always trying to contradict her by trying to state his piece and by trying to say is views are more important.

Emily Miller

enm14007 — 2018-03-05 19:06:44 UTC

Answering Brian's question, thin slicing examples include stereotyping, making split second decisions, nonverbal gestures being observed etc. In the article, "Why Blink Matters" on the balance.com it states, "At the same time, this ability we have as humans, to quickly make judgement calls, saves lives, provides interpersonal insight, recognize fake artifacts, allows us to assess situations and take action and can even predict the future of a relationship." Everyday we as humans are think slicing, even if we don't realize it. We make snap decisions about situations and people, unconsciously, that bring into play all of our biases.

Rishabh

rishabhrege — 2018-03-05 19:06:50 UTC

Responding to Katie: I believe that tone and hand gestures are good focuses for body language.

Izzy Nolton

2018-03-05 19:06:53 UTC

Do you think that thin-slicing is more important than getting to know someone over time? According to Dr. Gottman "We thin-slice because we have to, and we come to rely on that ability because there are a lot of hidden fists out there, lots of situations where careful attention to the detail of a very thin-slice, even for no more than a second or two, ca n tell us an awful lot" (pg 44). On the other hand, a amazing and perfect person can give a bad first impression and not giving them a chance can cause a lost friendship.

Lisa Okooboh

2018-03-05 19:06:55 UTC

To add on "Thin slicing is to find pattern in situations" (Gottman 23).

Luis Da Silva

2018-03-05 19:07:03 UTC

The answer to Brian's question is that thin slicing is the ability to find patterns in the small things such as hand gestures.

To add on to Angela's comment about how you need less than 5 minutes to thin slice in Psychology Today they state that "5 second clips have been reported to be just as accurate as 5 minutes clips".

Michael Kim

2018-03-05 19:07:04 UTC

"Most of us have difficulty believing that a 275-pound football lineman could have a lively and discerning intellect. We just can't get past the stereotype of the dumb rock. But if all we saw of that person was his bookshelf or the art on his walls, we wouldn't have that same problem." Chapter 1

So how can we avoid judging a person by their looks?

Andy Yin

2018-03-05 19:07:06 UTC

Lots of famous speakers have very powerful hand gestures. According to box 35, in getting a grip "Unfortunately, the best example of an individual who developed his hand gestures to improve his communication skills is that Adolf Hitler."
Why could Adolf Hitler make a powerful hand gesture and we can't?

Deirdre Weissman

2018-03-05 19:07:25 UTC

How accurate is thin-slicing? How can we use thin-slicing to determine a person's characteristics and what they are like?

Hayden Gardner

hayden_gardner — 2018-03-05 19:07:32 UTC

do you think that verbal ques are more important than nonverbal ques?

Cindy L

2018-03-05 19:07:45 UTC

I agree with Jinu when he says that he believes that Bill and Sue are headed for divorce. I agree because they both show signs that Gottman says are vital reasons for divorces. These four signs are defensiveness, stonewalling, criticism, and contempt. (Pg. 32). Gottman notes that Bill is very defensive on page 24 when he constantly says "yes...but." This may make it seem that Bill is agreeing with Sue but in reality, he is being defensive. Also, on page 24, Gottman notes that Sue rolled her eyes many times during the interview. This shows contempt which is one of the non verbal cues.

Jinu Kim

2018-03-05 19:07:47 UTC

Does social media that we use today can show our impression to others while other shows their impression through behavior and verbal?

Ella Bower

2018-03-05 19:09:18 UTC

On page 25 Bill kept saying "yes-but" this is him trying to acknowledge his partner but making his views seem more important than hers.

Deirdre Weissman

2018-03-05 19:09:22 UTC

Contempt is the feeling that someone or something is worthless. Why do you think contempt is the main factor in deciding whether or not a married couple will later get divorced?

Sophia Schieltz

2018-03-05 19:09:36 UTC

In the article "Snap Decisions Work!" a professor of social sciences states, "there are times when it is very dangerous to make these first impression type judgement, especially when using stereotypes." This mentions the dangers of thin-slicing, our first impressions (although may generally be correct) can be wrong in some instances. It may be worth providing our snap-decisions the benefit of doubt.

Lisa Okooboh

2018-03-05 19:09:38 UTC

To answer what Deirdre asked, thin slicing seems pretty accurate because from the excerpt Getting a Grip, it a grip it talks about "Brains have a natural bias to focus on the hands.....People may regard you with suspicion if they can't see your hands when you are talking"(2 Getting a Grip). A lot of people seem to believe this so from the tiniest aspects, thin slicing comes out to be accurate.

Ella Bower

2018-03-05 19:11:06 UTC

Expressions do play a huge part in a relationship but what we are constantly seeing is that it goes deeper than that. All of our movements and tone shows about how we really feel in a situation. The problem is people have a find a way to read their partners emotions.

Sade Major

2018-03-05 19:12:00 UTC

To agree with Sajan, by taking one look at someone it is easy to make an assumption on a person. Facial expressions show what a person may be thinking or feeling. If someone has a big smile on their face you can definitely tell that the person is happy. Most people want to approach a person if they have a smile on their face.

Emily Miller

enm14007 — 2018-03-05 19:12:05 UTC

Adding on to what Cayden said, by us realizing the impact of thin slices, it is a critical first step in being an effective communicator and realizing the importance of nonverbal cues and elements.

olivia hillhouse

o_hilly26 — 2018-03-05 19:12:07 UTC

hand movements and actions can help people make first impressions

Michael Kim

2018-03-05 19:12:10 UTC

"Everyone in that room had not one mind but two, and all the while their conscious mind was blocked, their unconscious was scanning the room, sifting through possibilities processing every conceivable clue. And the instant it found the answer, it guided them - silently and surely - to the solution." Chapter 2

Even if their conscious mind is blocked, their unconscious mind is scanning the room for clues, so how are these two different?

Lulu Sui

2018-03-05 19:12:33 UTC

I agree what Cayden said about the hands. In page two of Getting a Grip, it says, on the third page "... we discovered that people with hands under the desk were perceived as more open and friendly, and none was perceived as deceptive." Hands do play a big part on how a person is percieved.

Emily Miller

enm14007 — 2018-03-05 19:13:50 UTC

Adding on to what Sajan said about key observations made while observing people, such as how judges look at the criminals, psychology today states, "These observations are, often surprisingly to many people, very accurate compared to self ratings and ratings based on the entire interaction." These observations can include first impressions; being able to identify sexual orientation, telephone operator's job performance, teacher ratings, sales people, and trust, etc.

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 19:14:14 UTC

In Chapter 1 of Blink, the author talks about how there are 2 different states of relationships, "positive sentiment override and negative sentiment override". He says that positive sentiment override is like if your "spouse does something bad" you'll just think "he/she is just in a bad mood today" and negative sentiment override is like if your spouse does something good, you'll think that "it's just a selfish person doing one good thing." What do you guys think about this?

Kyle Zemel

2018-03-05 19:14:16 UTC

In Part 4 of chapter 1 starting on page 34, the doctor conducts a social experiment and shows how friends know a lot less about someone then a random stranger. On page 36 when he found all the proof he needed, " On balance, then, the strangers ended up doing a much better job." This shows how thin slicing takes place because strangers can easily see all the body's actions, literally every little thing they did. So the friend would often see a lot less by a person and easily be fooled.

Sophia Schieltz

2018-03-05 19:14:22 UTC

In terms of marriage, a happy couple needs positive emotion, and Goldwell states on pg. 26 that "the ratio of positive to negative emotion...has to be at least 5 to 1." To avoid divorce and foster a happy marriage, the 'four horsemen' must be avoided, and positive emotion must be prominent. However, is it really possible to analyze if this ratio exists in thin-slicing?

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 19:15:03 UTC

Based on the eaarlier question does thin slicing affect your school life i believe so because before i even meet someone i already judge them and based on the video we wqatched it said that one bad first impression can weigh more than 20 good impressions so first impressions and thin slicing affects school lives entirely

Izzy Nolton

2018-03-05 19:15:06 UTC

What I found interesting was that Dr. Gottman only really had to look at on e emotion to determine if a couple will last, contempt. Contempt is the feeling that you are above someone and have less respect for them. ON page 32, he says, "...the one emotion he considers the most important of all: contempt" (pg 32). I agree with this becuse the most important thing in relationships to me, is respect.

2018-03-05 19:15:25 UTC

Is there a difference between what you think your doing and what you are actually doing?
I think there is a difference because of your unconscious mind and conscious mind. Withyour unconscious you have no idea what you are doing. That is why some people sleep walk with the belief that they are sleeping.

Lulu Sui

2018-03-05 19:16:34 UTC

Gottman points out certain things that he can see in the relationships on their feelings that give him big insight on if they are going to divorce or not. Contempt is one of the examples of a feeling that gives him a big red flag on if their relationship will fall apart. Contempt is the most important one to find because contempt isd dfferent because one partner speaks in a superior plane. In the book, Blink, he says, "But if I speak from a superior plane, that’s far more damaging, and contempt is any statement made from a higher level"(Goldwell 15). Contempt is a huge negative feeling that would make their positive ratio turn into a negative one.

Deirdre Weissman

2018-03-05 19:17:20 UTC

Do you think it is easier to give off a positive or negative first impression?

Michael Kim

2018-03-05 19:17:23 UTC

Adolf Hitler used his hands a lot in his speeches, do you think he was able to convince the citizens with his powerful motions?

Sophia Schieltz

2018-03-05 19:17:27 UTC

Goldwell stated on pg. 31 that "half the couples... split up at the same point 15 years after the discussion was filmed. Half were still together." Could those discussions potentially affected or influenced the couples' divorces by bringing light to issues in their relationships at the time?

Ella Bower

2018-03-05 19:17:46 UTC

On page 30-31 he stated on how he can predict by a 95% chance if couples will get a divorce, but how does he know that anything else happened to cause this. Yes, their emotions and signals can make it seem like a bad relationship but is it possible to fix it or will one thing over throw their marriage?

Luis Da Silva

2018-03-05 19:18:04 UTC

Adding on to the discussion of thins slicing being flawed do you think there is sometimes more to the human mind than just emotions?

Emily Miller

enm14007 — 2018-03-05 19:19:01 UTC

I agree with Daria, everyone makes assumptions and thin slices. It is the stereotypes we make every day about people before we even talk to them. It affects the way we treat and interact with people, as well as who we choose to be around. According to psychology today it says, "Thin slicing methodology has been researched and its accuracy has been demonstrated in a variety of areas." This information agrees with the point that thin slicing is a real thing, and it can be accurate.

Lisa Okooboh

2018-03-05 19:19:10 UTC

In the article "Acting on Impulse", from theguardian.com, it emphasizes on how "Research shows that we make up our minds about someone in a matter of seconds". I agree with this becasue when I tend to look at poeple I get an impression of their facial expressions and how they tend to be like.

Jinu Kim

2018-03-05 19:19:36 UTC

I agree with Aidan,because I think emotion can change the the way you behave to peer and it is also too early to determine the person’s life for just 15minutes. When you look at the long term people or person can chang period if time because their behavior and mind of thoughts can impact theory impression to other.

Kyle Zemel

2018-03-05 19:20:01 UTC

Overtime when seeing a persons personality and how they act it will be better then thin slicing and judging a person by a day or less of how they act. Like for observing someone over a period of months or years is better to understand them mentally then just for a minute, hour or day. This is why I dont believe thin slicing could be used in a good way for every situation.

Michael Kim

2018-03-05 19:21:27 UTC

What did Adolf Hitler use to make his statements so powerful? Think about it...

Divya Mallemadugula

2018-03-05 19:21:33 UTC

In the book, Gladwell says "But there are moments... when haste does not make waste, when our snap judgements and first impressions can offer a much better means of making sense of the world" (14). We can make better judgements if we don't have previous influence. We observe everything carerfully if we don't know them.

Andy Yin

2018-03-05 19:22:05 UTC

People look at people's hand gestures all the time, according to getting a grip "Because our brain have a natural bias to focus on the hands, successful entertainers, magicians, and great speakers have capitalized on the phenomenon to make their presentation more exciting or to distract us.

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 19:22:24 UTC

Ben Keeble

2018-03-05 19:23:25 UTC

Katie Cooper

2018-03-05 19:23:33 UTC

Andy said something about hand gestures and on page one of Six Getting A Grip, "Therefore,whether people are speaking or not, hand gestures merit our attention as a rich understanding of the thoughts and feelings of others." I think that the way people receive people's emotions and thoughts by hand gestures is a unique way of thin slicing. Do you think this was used in the experiments in Blink? How?

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-05 19:23:40 UTC

arjun

2018-03-05 19:23:52 UTC

In Getting a Grip, it explains how hiding your hands when talkinbg acan comeoff as a negative thin slice. This shpwows off that you look that you are lieing or that you are nervous ab

Rishabh

rishabhrege — 2018-03-05 19:24:28 UTC

Along with what Katie said,"Research on nonverbal sensitivity has shown that people from similar cultures are better at judging eachother personalities (American Psychological Association). Not just age.

Lisa Okooboh

2018-03-05 19:25:20 UTC

In a way it seem like when a person that doesn't know you judges you, they seem to get a better understanding of how you are like. In "Blink"it talks about the big five inventory experiment and how "On the remaining three traits of the Big five, strangers with the clipboards came out on top" (Gottman 36). People that do not know us can look look at things around us or even just by looking at our room can get a sense of who we are and what we like or do not like. They can make an inference about us.

Jason Gardner

2018-03-05 19:34:35 UTC

Eshaan Patel

2018-03-05 19:34:44 UTC

Kate Hoben

2018-03-05 19:34:54 UTC

Josie Stewart

2018-03-05 19:34:58 UTC

Alex Arabis

2018-03-05 19:34:59 UTC

Amogh

2018-03-05 19:35:04 UTC

Chase Thomas

2018-03-05 19:35:10 UTC

Allison Swift

2018-03-05 19:35:15 UTC

Liam ross

2018-03-05 19:35:18 UTC

Jagger Inniss

2018-03-05 19:35:21 UTC

Z Ahmedi

2018-03-05 19:35:28 UTC

IsabeIla Caswell

2018-03-05 19:35:35 UTC

Danielle Baptiste

2018-03-05 19:35:58 UTC

Justin Vexler

2018-03-05 19:35:59 UTC

Toby Stempler

2018-03-05 19:36:01 UTC

Lenox Lee

2018-03-05 19:36:50 UTC

Lydia Coffman

ljc2002 — 2018-03-05 19:37:17 UTC

cassidy elgomayel

2018-03-05 19:37:19 UTC

Lauren Greenwald

2018-03-05 19:37:26 UTC

Z Ahmedi

2018-03-05 19:37:43 UTC

Ella Uhde

2018-03-05 19:38:12 UTC

Ella UHde

Kendall Slade

2018-03-05 19:38:18 UTC

Prep (in case it's unreadable)

~The chapter begins with a couple discussion between what seems to be happy, but after Gottman went deeper into the conversation by using a number system to determine the emotion of each person every second

~Gottman could tell if a couple would last 15 years or not in about an hour of observing their conversation, if they were or weren’t contempt, tensed, arguing, and/ or passive agressive as stated on page 31.

~Gottman claimed “thin slicing” could determine who someone is or if a relationship will last for example the first couple in the beginning chapter.

~I disagree with Gottman, because people tend to make incorrect assumptions based off “thin slicing”. We watched a video in class where 2 people would sit facing away from each other and make assumptions about each other appearances based off their hobbies, dislikes, and likes. Once they turned around they realized their description of the other person were incorrect. Thus including “thin slicing” is inaccurate and based off stereotypes.

~Jobs interviews is also an example of “thin slicing”, because it’s a short conversation were the interviewer is judging the person based off their appearance and body language.

~On page 27 Gottman states that he believed the results he got were just people caught on their bad days, but soon realized that he got the same results every time and the same pattern. I am shocked by these results, because I am against “thin slicing”.

~I believe “thin slicing” can be effective and somewhat reliable, but it shouldn’t be the only source someone uses to determine a future of a relationship or how someone is. It should be use as a guideline, but not the only thing someone uses.

Marcello Serlin

2018-03-05 19:39:01 UTC

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Cassidy elgomayel

2018-03-05 19:40:36 UTC

Marcello Serlin

2018-03-05 19:40:38 UTC

Chris Tang

2018-03-05 19:40:43 UTC

halle maya

2018-03-05 19:43:19 UTC

halle p

2018-03-05 19:44:12 UTC

Amogh

2018-03-05 19:44:39 UTC

Halle and Isabella said that a scientist can tell about marriage in fifteen years. In the getting a grip article "Hand gestures can prove many things about people." This can go back to marriage also.

Chase

2018-03-05 19:44:51 UTC

According to an outside source, The Balance, we simply thin-slice because we have too not because we want too.

Eshaan PAtel

2018-03-05 19:45:19 UTC

As stated in chapter 1, gottoman was able to predict outcome in a short amount of time. DOes this apply to all families?

Josie Stewart

2018-03-05 19:45:20 UTC

To add onto Halle on page 19 it said "Bill and Sue banter back and forth happily, both with a half smile on their lips." It was cool to see how he was analyzing their falseness.

Liam Ross BackChannel Posts

2018-03-05 19:45:35 UTC

I would add on to Halle by saying that bill and sue seem to have a nice conversation, yet when you dig deeper it is more passively aggressive

Allison Swift

2018-03-05 19:45:45 UTC

Marcello Serlin

2018-03-05 19:45:49 UTC

I think that thin slicing sometimes isnt a good idea because there may be some instances where you should get to know them and according to the text (pg.21) their system is able to respond to every conceivable emotion a human has but it only explains some of the person not all of there emotion and personality.

Jagger Inniss

2018-03-05 19:46:10 UTC

Since the the 1980s Gottman has brought more than 3000 couples to his"love lab"

Toby Stempler

2018-03-05 19:46:15 UTC

In the book blink during chapter 1 it explains how people who study this kind of stuff specific topic can look at a relationship for a few minutes and can make an educated guess with a good percentage of being right if the couple will stay with each other for more upcoming years to come.

Ella Uhde

2018-03-05 19:46:37 UTC

I wonder if the support nog

Jason Gar

2018-03-05 19:47:03 UTC

I completely agree with what halle and isabella were saying about the dog and bill and sue.

Z Ahmedi

2018-03-05 19:47:16 UTC

So is thin slicing good , bad , or does it depend?

Kate Hoben

2018-03-05 19:48:53 UTC

On page 21 of the book, it says" If he analyzes an hour of a husband and wife talking, he can predict with 95% accuracy" I dont really believe that can really be possible because events change all the time which will influence the relationship.

Isabella Caswell

2018-03-05 19:49:25 UTC

In an outside source, I read in an article by the America Psychological Association that Bernieri, a social psychologist said “We can be distracted by the most visible and salient aspects of a person’s personality.” I interpreted this by the fact that physical attractiveness and charisma can hide the inner layers of the onion. This relates to blink because in the text it talks about how first impression can lead to assumptions. One is not focusing on the inner personality and therefore I believe does not really know the person.

In section 6 of Blink, it also talks about how we base celebrities off of how they act of camera compared to how they truly are in real life. I can add onto this from a real life experience. I went to the American Music Awards last year and I noticed that many celebrities were not how I perceived them to be.888888i9i9i9999

chase

2018-03-05 19:49:26 UTC

I agree with Halle about the fact that we don't chose to thin slice. On page 43 Gottman says that thin-slicing is not an exotic gift:It is a central part of what it means to be human

Alex Arabis

2018-03-05 19:49:49 UTC

Chris Tang

2018-03-05 19:50:02 UTC

Can Thin slicing be possibly a positive factor in real life communications?

Liam ross

2018-03-05 19:50:19 UTC

I would add on to Halle by saying that bill and sue seem to have a nice conversation, yet when you dig deeper, it is more passive aggressive.

halle maya

2018-03-05 19:50:35 UTC

i agree with halle on thin slicing i definitely agree that people judge one another very fast.

EShaan Patel

2018-03-05 19:51:48 UTC

Linda stated that you can see that the couple is still young and and there image on each other can be changed. On page. 27 it states "the ratio of positive to negetive is 1-5". A few negetive thoughts about each other can make a big impact.

halle maya

2018-03-05 19:52:21 UTC

i agree with halle p that it isn't our choice to thin slice

Liam ross

2018-03-05 19:52:33 UTC

In the text it’s says, “What often happened couples who ended in a divorce is that when one partner would ask for credit, the other would not give it.” This is another thing that was happening with bil and sue.l

Jagger Inniss

2018-03-05 19:53:03 UTC

Since the 1980s Gottman has brought more than 3000 couples to his "

davin

2018-03-05 19:53:20 UTC

i agree with Lidia that in a relationship once you have a negative thing happen it will only go downhill from there

Toby Stempler

2018-03-05 19:53:21 UTC

The theory that the scientist have is that you can take a small piece of the "cake" and get a sense or taste of the whole cake.

halle maya

2018-03-05 19:53:55 UTC

I agree with Cassidy because almost every person judges people on the way they look and to say something about the new topic hand motions do intrigue people in a conversation and it shows people what personality you might have.

marcello serlin

2018-03-05 19:54:05 UTC

i agree with z that we make assumptions about one another subconsciously but i don’t be think it has everything to do with hands burbank they have more to do with emotions and preferences/viewpoints. Going back to chapter one, Gottman explains how he isn’t able to read facial expressions but i don’t think think that explains the full person in the front jest expression.

Kate Hoben

2018-03-05 19:54:53 UTC

On page 21 it syas " Spaff, a coding system that has twenty seperate categories corresponding to every concievable emotion" I think this is really cool because most of the time people just make guesses on what the other person is trying to say bt with SPAFF, they can prove what the other persons emotions are.

Liam ross

2018-03-05 19:57:41 UTC

“People respond positively to effective hand movements.” I would add on to what the people who were discussing were saying by saying that’s this quote is very importantly since we often talk to people over text. When we do not have these hand gestures, we cannot understand that much of what’s they are saying.

halle maya

2018-03-05 19:58:00 UTC

In the book it talks about "The videotape of Bill and Sues discussion seems, at least at first, to be random sample of a very ordinary kind of conversation." At first i thought the couple would be okay, but as the book gets farther along theres more negative things about the couple. That gets me thinking they might not last.

marcello serlin

2018-03-05 19:59:00 UTC

i agree with lauren because you can’t fully understand a person from onenote aspect of them. it’s like the old saying, don’t judge a book by a cover. to be able to fully understand someone you need to be able to talk to them but and feel what they feel.

halle p

2018-03-05 19:59:29 UTC

In the book on page 47 it says, "We're old hands at thin slicing." This means that people tend to thin slice everyday and we are basically used to doing it in our everyday life.

Justin Vexler

2018-03-05 19:59:58 UTC

On page 36 the Big Five questionnaire finds that people who do not know the person they are asked about, answer questions more accurately than close friends of those people. I think this is interesting how someone can judge someone so accurately from just a look at their room and their things.

Jagger Inniss

2018-03-05 19:59:59 UTC

Kendall Slade

2018-03-05 20:00:12 UTC

Adding onto what Danielle said about first impressions can help you in the long run, because in a Ted talk we viewed in class there was an example about a rowdy football enthusiasts who spilled food all over this guy. The next day it was raining and the guy forgot his umbrella, but the same football enthusiast offered him to share his umbrella and they stated that the guy would most likely decline the gesture due to his first impression with the football guy. The Ted-talk also stated that bad actions usually out-weights positive ones and have a greater impact on a person's image.

Allison Swift

2018-03-05 20:01:27 UTC

Eshaan

2018-03-05 20:01:39 UTC

ON Psychology today, it stated that there are micro and macro triats. Micro triats are traits that do not tell alot about a person, (vis-versa for macro).

halle maya

2018-03-05 20:01:57 UTC

I agree with Josie and Marcello because a first impression is everything, thats what everyone remembers about you.

chase

2018-03-05 20:02:07 UTC

I agree with ella about needing a lot of information about people to make the wright assumption. On page 31, "Gottman has discovered that marriages have distinct signatures, and we can find them by collecting very detailed emotional information from the interaction of a couple."

Jagger Inniss

2018-03-05 20:02:18 UTC

I agree with what Josie said because first impressions are very important and normally th

Jason Gardner

2018-03-05 20:03:22 UTC

I completely agree with Chris because posture is a key thing when interviewing for jobs and job interviewers will notice little things that the interviewee does that might give him or her an advantage to get the job.

Danielle Baptist

2018-03-05 20:03:57 UTC

I respectively disagree with Eshaan about characterizing people into character into specific traits. On a text/episode of Grey's Anatomy there was a couple who were generalized. One of the characters said their state was cold and silent. In reality the coldness is relaxation from the front the hard jobs they work and the wife always being silent is because the husband knowing exactly what she is thinking/wants.

halle maya

2018-03-05 20:05:19 UTC

In the article Getting a Grip it says that humans are "hardwired" to look at how someone presents themselves rather than actually what they actually say

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Lauren Greenwald

2018-03-05 20:05:45 UTC

Going off what Chris said, I agree with him because how you act on camera, at a job interveiw, really anything in person can greatly effect what people think about you, especially with first impressions.

Alex Arabis

2018-03-05 20:06:30 UTC

According to the article Getting a Grip, the author says that the successful communicators use “very powerful hand gestures”, such as in court cases, where people are trying to use their hand motions to plead their case, and that judges favor people who use hand motion to those who do not. I think hand motions are very important to help get your point across.

Eshaan Patel

2018-03-05 20:07:36 UTC

In getting a grip, it states "human brain is programed to see slightest hand and finger movement". This can be dangerous if the brain becomes too unexperienced since people can be taken advantage of. To what point are you considered "good" in hand gestures?

Justin Vexler

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Amogh

2018-03-05 20:08:42 UTC

I agree with Chris because I saw that presidential discussion. There is many more examples beacuuse there a

Davin

2018-03-05 20:09:22 UTC

i agree with Lidia because when in a relationship if something negative happens the relationship can only go down hill from there.

Kendall S

2018-03-05 20:09:26 UTC

I agree with Chris's statement about appearances can influence how someone thinks about someone and then begin to bring up the Nixon vs JFK's oral argument. He stated that everyone who saw the debate thought JFK won and if you listened Nixon won the debate, because the way Nixon presented himself he seemed very unprofessional and he looked unprepared, while JFK was dressed formally and behaved himself like he was confident. This is extremely true, because at job interviews they person who’s interviewing you is judging you based off how professional you look and how you present yourself.

halle p

2018-03-05 20:09:46 UTC

Again referring to the book, on page 23 it says, "When out unconscious engages in thin slicing, what we are doing is an automated, accelerated unconscious version of what Gotten does with his videotapes and equations." This means people often thin slice without even knowing it, and we judge people based off a short first impression just like Gotten does.

Lauren Greenwald

2018-03-05 20:09:55 UTC

In blink, Amber Tabares goes on to say how a couple who will end in a divorce, when one partner ask so for credit the other spouse will not get it. In a happier couple, when one asks for credit, the other one responds with something positive, like you are right or yeah, indicating support. (Page 25) Because Bill does this quite often.

Alex Arabis

2018-03-05 20:11:45 UTC

According to phycologist.co.uk, even if a trait is not in a human, if you see it on your first impression you can “expect a certain action you normally perceive even if it is not there.” That means your first impression is critical as even you may do something you do not usually do, it may take a while for a person to unsee that trait in you. While they may not be accurate, they are crucial.

Justin Vexler

2018-03-05 20:12:12 UTC

Cassidy e

2018-03-05 20:14:41 UTC

On page 33 gotthem says “ that the presences of contempt in a marriage can even predict such thing so as how many colds a husband or wife gets” and it brought up an interesting question as how can 10 minutes of Small arguments help to determine the well being of one s immune system.

Lydia Coffman

ljc2002 — 2018-03-05 20:15:11 UTC

Liam brought up the topic of showing contempt in relationships. The thought of “...having someone you love express contempt toward you is so stressful that it begins to affect the functioning of your immune system” (Gladwell 35). This is could add to the idea that contempt can negatively impact relationships.

Lydia Coffman

ljc2002 — 2018-03-05 20:15:38 UTC

Liam brought up the topic of showing contempt in relation

Chris Tang

2018-03-05 20:15:47 UTC

I would like to add on to the conversation about impressions with a court case example. Judges like witnesses to show their hands during a speech. When witnesses do not show their hands, "...they assume that the person is holding back,or perhaps lying"(Getting a Grip).

Lydia Coffman

ljc2002 — 2018-03-05 20:17:36 UTC

“When I first started doing these interviews, I thought maybe we were getting these people on a crappy day. But the prediction levels are just so high, and if you do it again, you get the same pattern over and over again” (Gladwell 27). This was interesting to me while I was reading because it shows that the results achieved by Gottman were much different then what he expected.

Allison Swift

2018-03-05 20:23:57 UTC

I found it really interesting how Gladwell could determine a couples future using his four horsemen. His four points that led him in his research where Defensiveness, Stonewalling, criticism and contempt.

Toby Stempler

2018-03-05 22:34:26 UTC

In the book Blink there is one part where they started talking about doctors, and how if doctors spend just a few minutes talking to their patients, and acting more concerned for them there is a higher chance of them not being sued. All of the doctors who sound more confident and talk less to their patients have a way higher chance of getting sued if something were to go wrong.

Jada

2018-03-05 23:00:58 UTC

Jada

2018-03-05 23:05:55 UTC

Body language can determine a lot when examining people, when Gottman interviewed Bill and Susan they disagreed multiple times. Bill asked Susan for credit because he took good care of the dog, but Susan did not give him credit. On another occasion Susan rolled her eyes at Bill on numerous times (pg.24). Its quite obvious they had some tension in their marriage.

Jada

2018-03-05 23:10:31 UTC

Thin slicing does affect your everyday life. According to Psychology Today, thin slicing refers to observing a small section of an interaction, usually less than 5 minutes,and being able to accurately draw conclusions. Every day you make an assumption or judgement about someone just off 1 little detail

Lenox Lee

2018-03-05 23:59:54 UTC

Thin slicing can be found in many real-life examples like in first impressions. This was even shown in a test in the gum video that was shown in class

Lenox lee

2018-03-06 00:09:23 UTC

A major part of thin-slicing can be found in body language. Body language can help improve or deteriorate their misconceptions about you. For example, in box 35 of the article getting a grip, it says "Most successful speakers use very powerful hand gestures."

Lenox Lee

2018-03-06 00:28:45 UTC

Another example of thin-slicing can be found in the article getting a grip in box 36 where the author ran a test with a jury and got "When conducting jury surveys, one thing that stands out is hoe jurors dislike it when attorneys hide behind the lecture."

Kendall Slade

2018-03-06 01:27:02 UTC

I disagree with Gottman, because people tend to make incorrect assumptions based off “thin slicing”. We watched a video in class where 2 people would sit facing away from each other and make assumptions about each other appearances based off their hobbies, dislikes, and likes. Once they turned around they realized their description of the other person were incorrect. Thus including “thin slicing” is inaccurate and based off stereotypes.

Cindy Lee

2018-03-06 01:43:56 UTC

I agree with Jinu when he says that he believes that Bill and Sue are headed for divorce. I believe this because they both shows the 4 signs that Gottman mention are the 4 vital signs when looking for a coupe that will eventually divorce. On page 32, Gottman say that that the four signs he looks for when examining couples are defensiveness, stonewalling, criticism, and contempt. Out of those 4, Gottman note that Bill and Sue show 2. On page 24, Gottman notices that Bill is very defensive but is masking it by saying ""yes...but...". This makes it seem as though he is agreeing but in actuality, he is being very defensive. Gottman also notices that Sue shows contempt multiple times throughout the interview. Gottman notes on page 24 that Sue rolls her eyes whenever Bill talks ad id very inflexible and stubborn.

Cindy Lee

2018-03-06 01:58:51 UTC

I believe that although thin slicing is a very effective way to make a judgement on some one or something, regular everyday people may not be as well equipped or informed as a psychologist or someone like Gottman. For example, on page 23, Gottman says that at first glance to a regular person, Bill and Sue may seem like an happy, easy going couple. However, Gottman knows better because he knows to look for small, subtle signs whereas a regular person would just look at Bill and Sue and see the image that they are trying to project. Signs that Gottman looks for are mentioned on page 32. (Defensiveness, criticism, stone walling, and contempt.)

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-06 02:16:20 UTC

Arjun

2018-03-06 02:16:28 UTC

Body language does in fact affect how others interpret what you say. For example if you are talking while rolling your eyes one might think it is coming off in a disrespectful way even though your tone might not be giving it that way. In fact, according to psychology today, 55% of 🤬 people interpret you is based on your body movement and emotion.

Andrew Cargill

2018-03-06 02:17:13 UTC

I disagree with kendal, because she is basically saying that the vieo showed us that thinslicing isnt possible but just because you can just hear someone doesnt mean anything thin slicing has to do with narrow windows of experience and just talking to someone in a way they new they were being tested wasn't an accurate way to determine that because in the video we watched it said how just one experience can help you determine what that person will do jus twith those few seconds of experience in that other video it wasnt really a good example.

Cindy Lee

2018-03-06 02:35:50 UTC

I believe that non verbal cues are more important than verbal cues. For example, on page 24, Although Sue's tone was playful and light, Gottman noted that she constantly rolled her eyes. This shows that Sue was aggravated. However, it didn't show when she talked.

Andrew Wang

2018-03-06 03:33:43 UTC

I agree with Cindy on her statement saying non-verbal cues, or body language as we like to call it, is more important than verbal cues. I can personally vouch for this because as a public speaking teacher, I have always taught my students that body language accounts for 55% of all public speaking and communiccation, whereas the words you speak only account for 7%. So to bring up another topic, do people recognize these small remarks in terms of body language? a lot of the times, only proffessionals can point out these small points so does it really affect interactions between people without this knowledge?

Andrew Wang

2018-03-06 03:39:22 UTC

An interesting point about thin-slicing is how it relates to probability. In probability, let's one out of every 3 dogs have brown fur, now this might not always be the case, as it is not guaranteed that for every 3 dogs that you pull out, one of them will have brown fur, they might all be white. However, as you look at thousands upon thousands of these dogs, the trend will become more and more evident because you have had more encounters to support your theory. This relates to thin-slicing, as according to Blink, thin-slicing is "the ability of our unconscious to find patterns in situations and behaviors based on very narrow slices of experiences" (p. 23 Gladwell), well the more "experiences" you have with a person, the more you get to know about them, and certain patterns and traits will become more evident, just like the dogs, and how the mroe dogs you see, the more evident the one out of three dogs are brown theory becomes. So can we really make assumptions on people based on "narrow slices of experience"? do you really have enough evidence to back up your theories? What do you guys think, do you agree, disagree?

davin

2018-03-06 03:45:16 UTC

SungLin Hieh

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SungLin Hsieh

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davin

2018-03-06 03:46:35 UTC

i think it is interesting how gosling can predict a relationship. in the book blink gosling says that there are 5 things to measure people: extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, emotional stability, and openness to new things. do you think that this could be accurately used.

Sunglin Hsieh

2018-03-06 03:48:53 UTC

Thin-slicing is a term used in psychology to describe the ability to find patterns in events based only on narrow windows of experience. Gladwell uses many factors in determining whether or not a couple will be married in the future in a short amount of time. In my opinion, the most important factor is marriage and morse code. Galdwell could easily tell by the gestures that the couples do and use that to determine their future. Gladwell says that signs of contempt such as rolling your eyes will end up in a failing marriage. (Gladwell 11)

Andrew Wang

2018-03-06 03:49:37 UTC

What do you guys think of stereotypes, and how does it apply to thin-slicing? I personally believe that sometimes, we apply experiences from others and apply it to different people that are similar (such as in race, or gender). this essentially is the essence of stereotypes, just like how from the Tedx video we watched in class depicted a person sitting next to a unmannerly person at a football game, through this experience, that person might appy that knowledge to other people similar to the unmannerly person (either in looks or things like race and gender) in specific ways without even talking to someone. I believe this is a case in which thin-slicing is a horribel thing, becasue it causes people to make radical decision based on insufficient information. This has been seen in history before, for example during the civil rights era, many racists would have a bad experience with a minority person, and apply that same knowledge to the entire race, thinking that they are all the same, without even knwoing them. This proves a stagement Gladwell made on page 14 stating: "Decisions made very quickly can be every bit as good as decisions made cautiously and deliberately", in this case, the better idea would be to ue your conscious brain and think things over before making assumptions. This relates alot to life, for example, a common saying of don't judge a book by it's cover is an example of thin-slicing becasue using prior knowledge and experience, you make assumptions about something based on appearance without ever really getting to know the object or person.

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Lulu Sui

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davin

2018-03-06 04:02:22 UTC

we unconsciously thin slice people all the time and we dont even know it. thin slicing is a easy way to test if a relationship is going to last. on gadion.com they say that on mistake or bad judgement may be all that it takes to create a bad first impression, do you agree with this.

Ella Bower

2018-03-06 23:23:44 UTC

Luke Malcolm

2018-03-12 18:56:52 UTC

Some people are good at making positive decisions more than others because some people think through situations and really carefully analyze what would be the best possible decision for that specific situation. Some people do not think very carefully, which results to them not making the best decisions sometimes. (Responding to Ella

Luke Malcolm

2018-03-12 21:43:14 UTC

He explains thin-slicing on page 44, he says, "We thin-slice because we have to, and we come to rely on that ability because there are lots of hidden fists out there, lots of situations where careful attention to the details of a very thin slice, even for no more than a second or two, can tell us an awful lot." Here he explains exactly why they use thin-slicing.

Luke Malcolm

2018-03-12 22:04:47 UTC

Responding to the topic of split second decisions, which is discussed on page 36, i think that there are more negative than positive outcomes from making split second decisions because when you make a split second decisions, you are not fully thinking, you are usually going from right out of your mind, because believe it or not, we are not always correct.

Joey Riccardo

2018-03-13 03:25:44 UTC

I do think that thin slicing is a good way to determine how a person will fit in with somebody else or their relationships. I believe this because when the couples were viewed in chapter 1 they had a 90% success rate at determining who would still be married showing that it has a huge success.

Joey

2018-03-13 03:25:45 UTC

Joey Riccardo

2018-03-13 03:29:43 UTC

On page 32 it says that "If you can measure contempt, then you don't need to know every detail of the couples relationship." I believe that with something as small as contempt the couples may not even notice this and it could lead to further noticeable problems that you could only find out through thin slicing and measuring contempt at that time.

Joey

2018-03-13 03:29:45 UTC

Joey Riccardo

2018-03-13 03:31:03 UTC

When they did the experiment with the bedroom I found it interesting that "they were much more accurate at predicting both the students emotional stability and their openness to new experiences." Do you think that this would be a very consistent or good ways of forming opinions of people?

Joey

2018-03-13 03:31:04 UTC

Joey Riccardo

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Ameya Hegde

ameyahegde — 2018-03-14 13:37:24 UTC

Ameya Hegde

ameyahegde — 2018-03-14 13:43:51 UTC

Gladwell uses a cake as a analogy for thin slicing, which is very interesting because you don't need to eat the whole cake to find out the flavor, same with a person we can see their personalities very quickly and have a good idea of what they are like.

Ameya Hegde

ameyahegde — 2018-03-14 13:52:08 UTC

Gladwell shows that contempt is the biggest factor for a divorce. This is a big deal because if you begin a relationship with contempt than it is very likely the relationship won't last.

Ameya Hegde

ameyahegde — 2018-03-14 13:57:10 UTC

There are a lot of good sides to thin slicing such as painting a big picture with just half the paint, but there are down sides. People can be too quick to judge others, because of their past experiences which are not always accurate.