Student Voices in QA by Kelly O'Neill https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj Nov 15, 2019 en-us 2019-11-15 12:35:15 UTC 2019-11-15 18:48:31 UTC hello@padlet.com How might we design training for students about academic QA? kellyaloneill https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411732828 What incentive is there for them to participate?]]> 2019-11-15 12:37:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411732828 How do we engage our online learners? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411961724 2019-11-15 18:10:49 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411961724 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962074 Showing the students that their input will be used and how]]> 2019-11-15 18:11:24 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962074 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962078 How can we encourage all faculty to recognize the value of students as partners.  Changing the flavor of discussion, and addressing resistance..]]> 2019-11-15 18:11:24 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962078 Ongoing connection https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962257 How might we keep this QA conversation going provincially and nationally]]> 2019-11-15 18:11:41 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962257 'students as partners' - how are we fostering the connection between course level projects and program-level involvement? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962521 assumption that if we're including them in courses, it is influencing program level, but this isn't always the case. is involving them at the course level enough? how can we do better?

]]> 2019-11-15 18:12:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962521 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962575 Involve Students’ Unions or Assiciations? Get Facilty to partner with them to introduce/insuct]]> 2019-11-15 18:12:15 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411962575 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963491 seems very secretive ... how do we get students to want to participate 

]]> 2019-11-15 18:13:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963491 Closing the feedback loop https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963576 We discussed the importance and the challeng  of closing the loop. We wonder if a issue tracking or ticketing system could work]]> 2019-11-15 18:13:53 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963576 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963730 How do we ensure that we are *acting* on the student voice?]]> 2019-11-15 18:14:09 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963730 top down https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963810 leadership need to help us engage students from the top down.. show  the students that we want their voice. they won't want to participate if they dont see the inherent value. 

]]> 2019-11-15 18:14:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411963810 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964018 By showing Faculty that working with students in partnership can provide greater job satisfaction ]]> 2019-11-15 18:14:35 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964018 How do we convince senior leaders to invest in paying students to participate in QA? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964156 2019-11-15 18:14:47 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964156 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964176 How might we enrage students inQA as. Vehicle  to develop other skills (like critical thinking, communications , team work) and  as part of general education course? ]]> 2019-11-15 18:14:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964176 students just dont know about it https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964334 varying degrees of involvement, need more widespread awareness that this is a thing. 
 ]]> 2019-11-15 18:15:06 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964334 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964401 What is the role of top-down vs. Bottom up We need leaders to show the value, encourage transparency]]> 2019-11-15 18:15:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964401 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964657 How might we develop a pool of students who are ready to engage inQA work. ]]> 2019-11-15 18:15:38 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964657 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964838 problem is... some people only want to involve students who are going to speak highly or mostly highly of the program? internal battle to get quality feedback from a diverse group of students. C & D students are just as critical to improvement than A & B students

]]> 2019-11-15 18:15:54 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411964838 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965444 if we change what we're measuring (good quality vs. bad), we might get more voices to engage in giving their feedback]]> 2019-11-15 18:16:46 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965444 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965496 How might we organize a provincial or nationality conference by and for students  on student QA ]]> 2019-11-15 18:16:52 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965496 How migh t we invent students to participate and raise awareness about the value of being involved in QA? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965605  ]]> 2019-11-15 18:17:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965605 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965771 How might we raise the profile of quality. Assurance among students. ]]> 2019-11-15 18:17:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965771 Defining quality https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965858 How can we measure quality without defining it? How can we avoid definitions that mean something to policy makers but not students]]> 2019-11-15 18:17:20 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965858 Changing culture starts with awareness, which is sometimes lacking (among students but also among faculty). https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965989 Awareness needs to happen first

]]> 2019-11-15 18:17:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411965989 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966349 How might we have a unified understanding of QA? ]]> 2019-11-15 18:18:00 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966349 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966580 Students need to know what systems are already in place]]> 2019-11-15 18:18:18 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966580 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966821 still viewed as a bearocratic process. until we overcome this to be seen more as enhancement, engaging ALL parties will still be a struggle

]]> 2019-11-15 18:18:39 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966821 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966945 Students need to know their opinions will be taken seriously]]> 2019-11-15 18:18:51 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411966945 overall approach to process https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967524 how is the way we structure our process affecting the view of the process? we do all this work with them during the review time and then just say 'ok you're done, see you in ___ years' ... resources are always an issue but realistically students will know we care more when we engage them in all years

]]> 2019-11-15 18:19:47 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967524 How should external quality agencies External QA agencies https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967833 How should they involve students? I  their governance? In developing standards? In their activities? ]]> 2019-11-15 18:20:13 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967833 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967890 How do we demonstrate  incremental change and impact so that students involved in QA see the impact of their contributions?]]> 2019-11-15 18:20:19 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411967890 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968184 How do we engage students outside the “high flyer” group?]]> 2019-11-15 18:20:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968184 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968426 Faculty and administrators need to understand the value and credibility of students voices]]> 2019-11-15 18:21:07 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968426 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968462 How might we move from quality assurance to quality enhancement ]]> 2019-11-15 18:21:11 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968462 Defining consultation https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968471 What should be required in seeking feedback from students?]]> 2019-11-15 18:21:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411968471 how do students get engaged in all of our processes in a meaningful way? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969078 throughout the cycle, throughout the improvement process. is it more than just asking them for their input? even for minor curriculum changes

]]> 2019-11-15 18:22:05 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969078 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969146 How do we measure the impact of student engagement?]]> 2019-11-15 18:22:12 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969146 What we measure for QA, and how we measure it - is linked to who is consulted for self-study https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969261 As long as the process focuses on QA and not QEnhancement or growth, process will be biased towards A students and all the 'good stories'

]]> 2019-11-15 18:22:20 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969261 Moving from inputs to outcomes https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969571 Instead of facilities, measuring learning outcomes]]> 2019-11-15 18:22:50 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411969571 ownership https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411970392 does the QA office need to be making the connections with students and making sure their voices are included, or is this the departments responsibility? or is it both?

]]> 2019-11-15 18:24:05 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411970392 QA Is a top down process - so change in culture needs to be modelled and $upported from top down https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411971660 We can't solely put our efforts into including departments to support SaPs

]]> 2019-11-15 18:25:56 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411971660 different types of engagement https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411972112 students giving feedback on the program, or students giving feeedback on other processes. are both examples of capturing student voice? does it always have to be about student giving feedback about their programs or is it more about engaging them in all the ways that we can

]]> 2019-11-15 18:26:30 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411972112 Teaching quality https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411973688 Having assessment take place in class with out instructor in the room. The agency sends the link to the students,  they are informed directly by the agency.]]> 2019-11-15 18:28:20 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411973688 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974070 Need to include voice of less engaged, less enthusiastic students too. Representation for all student perspective (ex: part-time, mature, etc.)]]> 2019-11-15 18:28:48 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974070 need buy in https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974277 how are we ever going to have $$ to help us implement these things well? is there a way to do this without $$? institutional support is needed to help really encourage students to engage

]]> 2019-11-15 18:29:05 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974277 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974298 How might we make the short term curriculum modification process more flexible to allow for systematic change in the timeframes that it can affect students who are driving the change.]]> 2019-11-15 18:29:06 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411974298 Do we need an external framework? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411975638 Similar to the degree qualification framework developed by CMEC? Will anything happen without external pressure? This will increase cost, so do we need a policy imperative? Could policy lead to culture change?]]> 2019-11-15 18:31:03 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411975638 repository of ideas https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411975697 helpful for all of us to share and also to share with the programs we're working with. they might be able to implement these things but just may not have thought about it that way. if we can give them concrete ideas and examples where it's worked well, it may help them actually engage students better 

]]> 2019-11-15 18:31:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411975697 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411977227 we have the presumption that students KNOW how to participate in committees. they have an interest because they're doing it voluntarily, but do we need to do more to ensure that they have spaces to give feedback (explicitly prompting/asking them). should we be doing more to make sure that they show up and that they give feedback

]]> 2019-11-15 18:33:21 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411977227 how do we ensure the safety of students who are putting themselves in vulnerable positions when giving feedback/ contributing? https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411978601 is there some sort of handbook/training that we can give EVERYONE to ensure that they are all prepared 

]]> 2019-11-15 18:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411978601 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979103 How might we re design our processes to favour collaboration without cumbersome bureaucracy and slow downs ]]> 2019-11-15 18:35:53 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979103 When groups are doing SaPs in QA processes well, invite them to speak to others and champion their work https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979288 2019-11-15 18:36:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979288 preparing students for meetings with external reviewers https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979650 can we reach out to the students to tell them more about what will happen in the room, why we are doing this, etc. we let hte programs reach out to the students to invite them but we dont know what kind of prep they are doing with them. also, if the students have other things they want to share after the visit but dont feel comfortable sharing them with the program

]]> 2019-11-15 18:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411979650 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411984117 How might we evolve into a quality assurance system that encourages currency beyond maturity? ]]> 2019-11-15 18:42:45 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411984117 https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411986014 How might we decolonize quality assurance processes? ]]> 2019-11-15 18:45:22 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411986014 Investigate existing resources https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411986579 Are there work study or internal grant programs that could be mobilized to employ students in quality assurance processes]]> 2019-11-15 18:46:08 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411986579 Recognize Student Partnerships https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411988399 Value student involvement through paid employment and making part of course work ]]> 2019-11-15 18:48:31 UTC https://padlet.com/kellyaloneill/sywqgxegmlyj/wish/411988399