Question: Why was Octavio mostly mad at Sixto for the death of his father even though his brother, Junior, was also somewhat apart of it as well?

Quote: “But you showed me. I knew how much you loved me. You did shit like, like how you got me that expensive-ass Schwinn. Probably used to be some hipster’s bike, you probably stole it, but still, you stole it for me, and in some ways that’s even better than if you bought it.” (Daniel Gonzales, pg. 191)

Question: Why did David mainly blame Octavio for his brother's death?

Something I learned: Something I learned in this chapter was that the Cheyenne word ¨Veho¨ means spider, trickster, and white man all at the same time which is interesting to me.

A quote I would like to discuss is “Part of what kills me about you being gone is that I never really said anything to you. Even when you emailed me. I didn't even really know how much I wanted to say to you until the day you left. Until I felt that feeling of losing you on the lawn out there, right on that same spot where that boy's blood stained the grass. But you showed me. I knew how much you loved me.” pg.212

I am confused on why Daniel blames Octavio for his brother Manny being killed, what did Octavio say that made Manny get into the fight?

Question: Is there an even deeper reason as to why Thomas Frank is referring to himself in a second person point of view?

Something I learned about the Native American Experience: I learned that the Cheyenne word for "veho" means spider, and tricker, and white man.

Question: Why did Ronald change from trying to help Jacquie and Opal deal with their mother's loss to then abusing Jacquie?

While reading I learned that native Americans can get married in a tipi ceremony, also called the Native American Church.

Question: Why would Opal make it so difficult for Orvil to try and connect to his heritage if he is so passionate about it?

Something I learned was that the Natives have their own Church where they can choose to get married at for a special ceremony.

Something I learned was that the teens and the kids didn´t know much about what was going on with them and the Whites.

Question:What does Octavio's grandma mean about when she talks to him about "someone aiming a bullet meant for you"?

Something I learned is that "Veho" which is a Cheyenne word means spider and trickster and white man.

question: why are mirrors such a big significance in the book and what does it tell us about the characters.

something I learned is that there is a lot of times characters use mirrors to shows their identity or look back in the past.

"As for your mom's side, as for your whiteness, there's too much and not enough there to know what to do with." 216

Question:

Did Blue really make it away from Paul?

I learned about the "medicine box[es]" and what they're made for.

Question: How does the fragmented storytelling in There There reflect the fractured yet interconnected nature of Native American identity?

Something I learned about the Native American Experience: I learned how urban Native Americans navigate dual identities, balancing cultural heritage with the challenges of modern urban life, often maintaining traditions despite systemic erasure.

question: what do the spider legs mean to opal

something I learned is that the characters in are book are very spiritual so when something happen with bugs or animals it means something to them

Question:
How does urbanization impact the sense of identity and belonging for Native Americans, and how does this relate to historical policies of assimilation?

Something New I Learned:
I didn't realize the extent to which Native relocation programs, like the Indian Relocation Act of 1956, were designed to erase Native identity. I always assumed urban migration was primarily for economic opportunity, but this passage helped me understand that it was also a continuation of colonial efforts to dismantle Native culture.

Question - Why is Opal making it so hard for Orvil to try and connect to his Native American culture if he is really eager about it?

Something new - something I learned was the word "veho" which means spider or trickster in Cheyenne

Question: How do the characters in "There There" cope with the historical trauma and ongoing challenges faced by Native American communities?

Something new I learned: I learned about the Urban Indian experience, specifically how many Native Americans have been displaced from their ancestral lands and now live in cities, often facing unique struggles related to identity, community, and cultural preservation.

Question: Why didn't blue anything to Jacquie about her knowing she was her daughter?

I learned about Peyote Medicine and what its used for and what its called!

How does the novel illustrate the lasting effects of historical trauma on Native American characters and their sense of identity?

I discovered that Native American communities are still actively impacted by generational trauma, which has an impact on their issues with identity, addiction, and belonging.

Discussion quote, "We all came to the Powwow for different reasons. We all came to the Powwow with different needs. We all came to the Powwow carrying different burdens. But we all came to the Powwow to be together."

Question: How does Orange use different people/perspectives of Native people to show that most of them are dealing with the same problems.

Question:

One question I have is why do people forget where our roots came from and why does it have to turn to stereotyping when other people don't?

Something I learned is that Cheyenne word ¨veho¨ means spider, trickster, and white man.

Question: Are the spider's legs supposed to represent the past?

Something I learned: I learned how Natives in Urban communities feel disconnected due to being away and apart from those in their tribes. Like how Blue feels due to being adopted into a white family.

Question: How does the imagery in the Indian Head test pattern reflect the broader themes of surveillance and targeting of Indigenous people?

Something I learned: Something I learned is the Indian Head test pattern symbolically represents the surveillance and targeting of Indigenous people. The use of rifle scope imagery and the bull’s-eye conveys a sense of ongoing threat and dehumanization, linking past and present experiences of Native communities.

Question: Do all natives feel this way?

Something I learned: They used badger fur as an ingredient for medicine.

Question: Is the fact that there were spider legs in Opal's leg a reflection or metaphor for being "home and trap" or is there another meaning?

Something new I learned was how much spirituality means to Native culture as spiders and animals all have meaning and are relatable in more than one way to their history.

Question: How does Opal's perspective of her world relate to the sense of the world around her today?

Something I learned is that the Native American experience has a deep emotion of generational trauma, which connects to a loss of identity for some of the characters due to their own experiences and their struggle to connect with their heritage.

Question: How does Opal's past relate to how she deals with all the trauma she's endured?

I learned that Native Americans are usually superstitions.

Something I learned was that generational trauma within native communities can lead to personal struggles that impact one's present life.

Question: Is there a particular reason why there are change in points of views (first, second, third person)?

Something new I learned was that Native Americans had their own places to get married and hold their own ceremonies.