https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9 Contribute 1 quote from your assignment to this Padlet. en-us 2017-11-06 15:47:56 UTC 2025-10-01 15:44:49 UTC hello@padlet.com bb8951 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947607 O'Brien emphasizes the aspect of telling the truth verses keeping secrets when he states, "What stories I can, I guess, make things present" (180).]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:12 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947607 mb5007 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947768 When talking about his trip to Vietnam and the hardships it brought, O'Brien states, "But I was present, you see, and my presence was guilt enough" (179).]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947768 pk5132 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947802 O'Brien writes, "'Daddy, tell the truth,' Kathleen can say, 'Did you ever kill anybody?' and I can say honestly, ' Of course not'" (180).]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:31 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947802 af8871 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947851 O’Brien makes the audience think and reflect when he says, “I want you to know why story-truth is truer sometimes than happening-truth” (179).]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947851 rs5275 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947894 O' Brien describes his internal conflict when he states, "Even now I haven't finished sorting it out. Sometimes I forgive myself, other times I don't" (132). ]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203947894 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948043 O'Brien explains his thoughts after throwing the grenade by stating, "There were no thoughts about killing. The grenade was to make him go away" (133).

]]> 2017-11-06 15:51:55 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948043 jk5143 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948125 O'Brien ties his chapters together by continuing the use of repetition used in previous chapters: "his one eye shut, his other eye a huge star-shaped hole" (133).]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948125 kg8878 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948153 O'Brien discusses his impulse emotions and actions after seeing the young man in the distance when he states, "It was entirely automatic. I did not hate the young man; I did not see him as the enemy; I did not ponder issues of morality or politics or military duty," (132). ]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948153 ng1324 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948162 O'Brien said the following: "All I could do was gape at the fact of the young man's body" (134).]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948162 jb5009 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948196 I believe that O'brien keeps writing war related stories because that's how he copes with stress and depression . This is his way of facing his fears and past experiences. He responds to his daughters question (so I guess you must've killed somebody" in a hesitant way by stating " It was difficult moment, but I did what seemed right, which was to say, of course not" (p.131)]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:10 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948196 jm10810 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948310 it confuses me because he could be making up the entire or at least some of the story so far, like what he says on page 131: "It was a difficult moment, but i did what seemed right, which was to say "of course not,"

]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:23 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948310 sp1473 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948352 "When she was nine, my daughter Kathleen asked if I had ever killed anyone. She knew abut the war; she knew I'd been a solider. "'You keep writing these war stories,"' she said, "'so I guess you must've killed somebody'" (131). ]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:27 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948352 ba4999 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948384 Speaking of the man he was forced to killed at war, O'Brien says “Sometimes I forgive myself, other times I don’t”(134). ]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:30 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948384 nd5068 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948481 "But I was present, you see, and my presence was guilt enough". (179)]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:40 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948481 ml5170 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948521 Expanding on the idea of speaking two truths, O'Brien writes, "Kathleen can say, 'did you ever kill anybody?' And I can say, honestly, 'Of course not.' Or I can say honestly, 'yes'"(180).]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948521 da4991 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948617 O´Brien says,¨I was terrified. There were no thoughts about killing¨ when describing his feelings the day he killed someone.  (133)

]]> 2017-11-06 15:52:56 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948617 ma5001 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948772 O'Brien shares his story view of writing his war stories compared to what actually happened: "I'm forty-three years old, true, and I'm a writer, now and a long time ago I walked through Quang Ngai Province as a foot soldier. Almost everything else is invented" (179).]]> 2017-11-06 15:53:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948772 ch8595 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948791 O'Brien says, "But it's not a game. It's a form" (179).]]> 2017-11-06 15:53:12 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203948791 ab5034 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949246 O'Brien justifies his 'story-truth' when he writes, “There were many bodies, real bodies with real faces, but I was young then and I was afraid to look” (180). ]]> 2017-11-06 15:53:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949246 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949294 page 180
O'Brien is speaking to his daughter and is expressing the fact he did and didn't kill someone: "And I can say, honestly, 'Of course not.' Or I can say, honestly, 'Yes.'"

]]> 2017-11-06 15:53:52 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949294 tcjohn08 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949751 In trying to convey his internal struggle to face reality, O'Brien recalls a conversation with his daughter in which he writes, "Daddy, tell the truth," Kathleen can say, "did you ever kill anybody?" And I can say, honestly, "Of course not."

Or I can say, honestly, "Yes." (180)]]> 2017-11-06 15:54:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203949751 ab5032 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203950145 O"Brien once again states, "His one eye shut, his other eye a huge star-shaped hole" (133).

]]> 2017-11-06 15:55:05 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203950145 ad5059 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951288 O´Brien states, ¨Sometimes I forgive myself, other times i don't.¨(134).]]> 2017-11-06 15:56:45 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951288 js5258 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951735 In the book The Things They Carried By Tim O’Brien, he explains his thoughts when faced with the enemy: “I did not hate the young man; I did not see him as the  enemy; I did not ponder issues of morality or politics or military duty” (132).]]> 2017-11-06 15:57:22 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951735 mc5046 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951807 O'Brien talks with his daughter: "''You keep writing these war stories,' she said, 'so I guess you must've killed somebody.' It was a difficult moment, but I did what seemed right, which was to say, 'Of course not"' (131).]]> 2017-11-06 15:57:27 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203951807 https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203961490 In recalling the hardships of war, Lil Pump says "Gucci Gang Gucci Gang Gucci Gang Gucci Gang Gucci Gang Gucci Gang]]> 2017-11-06 16:11:53 UTC https://padlet.com/sandra_karolus_mikhael/stal5jt7gal9/wish/203961490