Situation 3: Thoughts by Rebekah Barbian https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d Record your ideas in the space below. en-us 2016-10-18 15:18:22 UTC 2017-06-28 20:34:27 UTC hello@padlet.com Guidelines that Comply and Don't Comply https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/141524858 Again, I don't believe any guidelines comply. This example is not specific enough to know. If the teacher took poems that were 250 words or less, than that would comply. Having her put it on itslearning though, I think violates this. The rules state the poems can be distributed one copy per student and only incorporated in multimedia, not being posted online. ]]> 2016-12-03 00:26:19 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/141524858 How to make it work https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/141524949 As the teacher, I would keep the poems to 250 words and just print out a paper copy for students to share, since only nine instances of copies can be made per term. ]]> 2016-12-03 00:29:51 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/141524949 Guides that Comply and Don't Comply https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/146567544 It's hard to say if any of this instruction complies with the Guidelines as we don't have any details about the poems being used.

Only 250 words of a poem can be copied, so if the poem is relatively short, the entire poem can be copied. If, however, you're dealing with a poem that is longer, only an excerpt (maximum of 250 words) can be used. 

Also, these poems can only be used as paper copies or incorporated into a multimedia presentation. I believe by posting to ItsLearning, this falls outside of the acceptable distribution channels.

Lastly, it says that the teacher scans "a collection" of poems, which is fairly vague. The teacher should be keeping each of these copies separate from the others, as creating an anthology does not fall within the appropriate guidelines.]]> 2017-01-11 16:42:05 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/146567544 How to Make it Work https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/146569600 In order to make this project work, the teacher should use short poems of 250 words or less or should be using short excerpts from larger works.
Regarding the distribution of the poems, they should be kept as separate files so as to not create an anthology.
If I were the teacher, I would approach the distribution in one of two ways.
1) Make paper copies and gather them back up after students use them. This is because teachers are only allowed to make nine copies of these poems per term.
2) I would link out to the poems in a multimedia presentation. If these poems are only needed for class time and students don't necessarily need to access them at home, it would be possible to link to the poems in a presentation, eliminating the need for paper copies.]]> 2017-01-11 16:46:31 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/146569600 Non Compliance https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776426 This situation is considered non-compliance because it is not known if the teacher personally owns the book and we are not sure if students will be turning in the packets or taking them home. We also do not know how many copies are being made and we don not know if the correct citations are being used.]]> 2017-01-26 22:20:41 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776426 Non-Compliance bvilliar https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776427 This activity is in complete non-compliance because we do not know if the teacher owns the original poetry book, we do not know if the students will be keeping the poems, we do not know how many poems will be used and we do not know if proper citation would be used. ]]> 2017-01-26 22:20:41 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776427 Suggestions for Improvement bvilliar https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776763 If the teacher wants to use and read poems for a unit, they should order enough copies of the poem book so each student has an individual copy. Another option would be to use "pieces" of the poems so that fair use according to schools is followed. ]]> 2017-01-26 22:22:59 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776763 Ways to improve https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776936 The teacher could have a predetermined plan of how many copies will be made as well as a plan to collect the material each day so the copies remain in the classroom. Another idea would be to have the teacher budget for enough copies of the book so copies do not need to be made.]]> 2017-01-26 22:24:21 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/149776936 I guess I misunderstood. If it were in her teaching manual it would be different. He/she is using the material for an educational use. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/151316590 2017-02-02 22:35:46 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/151316590 Specifics: Poem less than 250 words; 250-wordexcerpt of poem greater than 250 words https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/151697939 What you can do:  Teachers may make multiple copies for classroom use, and incorporate into multimedia for teaching classes. • Students may incorporate text into multimedia projects.  The fine print: Copies may be made only from legally acquired originals. • Only one copy allowed per student. • Teachers may make copies in nine instances per class per term. • Usage must be “at the instance and inspiration of a single teacher,” i.e., not a directive from the district. 

This example, as long as the poems are within the 250 word limit and it was an act of the individual and not mandated by the district, then this is permissible usage of learning material. ]]> 2017-02-05 23:28:01 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/151697939 https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/152239123 In this scenario, the teacher is creating a collection of poems which cannot be done according to the fair use rules "fine print." We also don't know if the teacher owns the original texts.]]> 2017-02-07 18:07:04 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/152239123 How to make it work https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/154703933 poems less than 250 words can be used in multi media for educational purposes but not printed for student use.]]> 2017-02-17 21:14:06 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/154703933 I believe since it is used for educational purposes only, and the poets are given credit for their work - it would be okay. jmcgiver https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/154865063 2017-02-20 06:20:30 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/154865063 I voted yes because the teacher is not creating an anthology, it is not a directive from the district, and https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/155025165 it is from a legally attained as an original.]]> 2017-02-20 22:53:58 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/155025165 I voted yes because they aren't claiming the poems and articles as their own. They are using them for teaching purposes and the teacher is not changing the poem/articles in any way. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/155495856 2017-02-22 16:10:03 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/155495856 I voted yes, as long as they are less than 250 words and one copy per student and they are using them for teaching purposes only https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156146379 2017-02-24 21:01:52 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156146379 This activity is compliant as long as it is less than 250 words and only one copy is made per student, and used for teaching purposes only. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156146420 2017-02-24 21:02:14 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156146420 https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156156461 As long as the teacher acquired the originals legally, they are less than 250 words, and the teacher gives proper credit to the authors/sources, I believe this would be compliant.

]]> 2017-02-24 22:39:49 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156156461 Yes...it is compliant; with a few assumptions. JulieFaulkner https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156170357 The guidelines state, "teachers may make multiple copies for classroom use, and incorporate into multimedia for teaching classes." So, the idea of her presenting the idea in it's learning is compliant.

]]> 2017-02-25 07:15:13 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156170357 Yes...The poems are being used for educational and enrichment purposes and assuming the poems were acquired appropriately. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156517585 2017-02-27 18:38:15 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156517585 ariege https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156614053 I believe that it does follow copyright and fair use policies. If the teacher lays out the information about each poem and where it is from and is using it as a teaching tool, then that would be okay. It does not say that the teacher is putting the poems together for his/her own personal use. ]]> 2017-02-28 03:06:09 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156614053 Yes https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156757623 Assuming that the poems were from a legally purchased book, yes. The teacher is taking the initiative to help his/her classroom. The 250 word count should be looked at, but otherwise that works. ]]> 2017-02-28 15:40:20 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/156757623 https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/157469607 This activity is compliant with the guidelines because it is being used for educational purposes, not for anything else. This is copyright and fair use friendly because the teacher gives credit to the poets and doesn't change their work]]> 2017-03-02 20:06:36 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/157469607 Yes jtruax https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/157475743 As stated by many others, its educational purpose to increase learning makes it  acceptable under the copyright and fair use guidelines as long as the teacher gives the credit to the author.  The only other concern is the word count.  ]]> 2017-03-02 20:27:47 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/157475743 Yes https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/159805726 The teacher is in compliance with copyright rules if the poems are less than 250 words and it was from a legal copy right source.]]> 2017-03-13 19:20:24 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/159805726 Yes https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160122953 After reviewing the guidelines, the teacher would have to be sure that they were copying poems of no more than 250 words.]]> 2017-03-14 22:38:36 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160122953 Yes https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160126947 The guidelines indicate that it would be allowed as the poems are less than 250 words.]]> 2017-03-14 23:11:29 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160126947 No https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160320251 There was no citation and we don't know if this book of poems was purchased.]]> 2017-03-15 17:11:13 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160320251 Yes. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160354553 First, the poems are allowed as reproducible for educational intent. Second, the itslearning access can be restricted only to students in a given course, so the content would not be "published" online in the general sense. 

]]> 2017-03-15 19:02:19 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/160354553 No https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/161987102 It would be allowed if a poem was less than 250 words. But, the "fine print" states that anthologies should not be created out of printed material. Taking numerous poems from multiple sources and posting them to an itslearning page would be creating an anthology. Although the definition, online, of an anthology is that it is published. Does posting the poems on in itslearning page constitute publishing? In a sense it is.]]> 2017-03-22 22:57:45 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/161987102 Yes, poems are allowed to be copied. Cite the source https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/161999859 2017-03-23 01:08:02 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/161999859 Yes, if the poems are less than 250 words. And used for learning https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/163435939 2017-03-29 14:27:00 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/163435939 No based on the fact it is several poems being put together rather than copying one poem that is 250 words or less. It states "don't create anthologies" which is what this seemed to be. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164078722 2017-04-01 00:58:02 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164078722 Yes. Printed material can be made available for students to be viewed for educational purposes. I saw someone's anthology comment and it isn't clear if that is what the teacher was doing or if there were posting them separately. Cite, cite, cite always. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164083346 2017-04-01 04:04:47 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164083346 Yes, this is allowed in my opinion. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164488584 Students should cite the sources, and teachers need to do the same when borrowing materials. ]]> 2017-04-03 22:12:44 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164488584 I think the teacher needs to make sure he/she is not creating mini anthologies. The teacher should use fewer poems. The teacher can only make copies in 9 instances per term. I would have to do more research to know if that means 9 poems or 9 different times the teacher copied a "collection of poems" as stated in the example. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164506071 2017-04-04 01:42:04 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164506071 Yes, as long as the poems that the teacher is copying is less that 250 words. And the https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164635108 2017-04-04 14:51:40 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/164635108 If it is for educational use and the teacher appropriately cites the source, I believe this would be a compliant use of the materials. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/165514035 2017-04-08 16:11:38 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/165514035 As long as the material is of 250 words or less, and it is for educational use, then it should be compliant. Although, I'd question what "anthology" indicates... because if combining and copying two or three poems = anthology, then I suppose you could do it but only if you handed them out separately. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/167931660 2017-04-24 18:23:24 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/167931660 Yes as long as the poems are not all from the same source and they are less than 250 words. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/168467151 2017-04-26 18:23:27 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/168467151 Yes, but the poems must be less than 250 words and from a legally acquired source. The teacher should probably cite the sources of the material. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/168480770 2017-04-26 19:11:37 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/168480770 Yes, because it states that "Teachers may make multiple copies for classroom use, and incorporate intomultimedia for teaching classes." I think the teacher should have to cite the source(s) that the poems were from. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/169816985 2017-05-04 00:10:09 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/169816985 While the poems are for educational use, the teacher is, in a sense, creating an anthology which violates the fine print rule. I wonder if a solution might to see if the poems are available in a copyrighted on-line poetry site and provide students with hyperlinks to this site for their review. In any case, all materials should be cited. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171024988 2017-05-10 14:40:56 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171024988 I voted yes because it is for educational use and it would be important to make sure the poems are 250 words or less. The teacher must also appropriately cite the source and author of each poem. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171140421 2017-05-11 00:46:25 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171140421 Yes, if the teachers own the original material, the poems are less than 250 words, and she/he doesn't use the entire collection of poems. The poems must be correctly cited. bpagel https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171625717 2017-05-13 16:21:27 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171625717 Yes, as long as the teacher properly cites each poem, they are less than 250 words and depending on what the assignment is for the students -ie. they can't be copying the poems without proper citing. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171980444 2017-05-16 01:24:53 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/171980444 Yes, I believe as long as the teacher is using it as an educational lesson and the poems are less than 250 words it is within the guidelines of copyright. I would properly cite each one too. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/173501442 2017-05-23 21:59:51 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/173501442 Yes. "Teachers may make multiple copies for classroom use, and incorporate into multimedia for teaching classes." I would make sure to include the sources of the poems and make sure that the authors were clearly listed. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/174062391 2017-05-27 01:59:16 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/174062391 I voted no because it was https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/176737666 posted on-line. The teacher also created an anthology and probably goes over the 250 word limit. Each poem would need to be cited and only nine copies can be made and distributed. ]]> 2017-06-17 21:57:04 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/176737666 I voted yes because poems that less than a certain amount of words can be used by the teacher for educational purposes. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177296696 2017-06-23 13:22:47 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177296696 yes. Cite the original and use less than 250 words. https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177579119 2017-06-27 18:06:25 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177579119 kconnaug https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177683925 I think it is okay as long as all works are cited and amount is less than specified.]]> 2017-06-28 20:34:17 UTC https://padlet.com/rbarbian/slsm0whjcr2d/wish/177683925