https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox Making Sense of The Things They Carry en-us 2021-10-20 12:16:39 UTC 2021-12-07 13:01:27 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f99d.png lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844734770 Lieutenant Jimmy Cross
Ted Lavender (deceased)
Kiowa
Martha
Henry Dobbins
Norman Bowker
Mitchel Sanders
Rat Kiley 
Dave Jenson
Lee Strunk]]> 2021-10-26 12:18:03 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844734770 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844738521 2021-10-26 12:19:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844738521 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844743630 the run on sentences create an overwhelming feeling of everything the soldiers feel and experience ]]> 2021-10-26 12:21:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844743630 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844748250 Jimmy loves Martha but the love seems to be unrequited. His obsession with her is what he blames for Lavender's death and views his feelings different. ]]> 2021-10-26 12:23:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844748250 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844750349 "He wanted to sleep inside her lungs and breathe her blood and be smothered" (O'Brien 11)

]]> 2021-10-26 12:24:23 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1844750349 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847975975 We learn what about the 'me?'- A former soldier and a current author.]]> 2021-10-27 12:14:59 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847975975 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847986168 Jimmy Cross survives the war. 
Martha likes women not men, that's why she doesn't want to get married.
Martha and Jimmy meet up at a college reunion. Jimmy still loves Martha, but it seems that Martha will never be into Jimmy. 

]]> 2021-10-27 12:19:29 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847986168 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847993730 Ted Lavender? Martha? Something we don't know about?

Probably Ted Lavender, which means that the author/narrator didn't keep his promise to Jimmy Cross.]]> 2021-10-27 12:22:41 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1847993730 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848034924 Do we understand the reason Azar is Azar? 19 year-old soldier surrounded by death and fear and shame.... blowing up a puppy or having zero sympathy for a maimed child might not be excusable, but can be understood. ]]> 2021-10-27 12:39:12 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848034924 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848052621 -The narrator is Tim O'Brien and he is 43 years-old
-Kiowa sink into a shit field and Curt is blown into a tree
-Tim has a Daughter named kathleen 
-Tim killed a man with hand grenade on a village trail


]]> 2021-10-27 12:45:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848052621 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848055858 -tim might have some ptsd
-how do you forget the bad?
-Norman bowkers story about the medals. Relatable because some of us felt that ]]> 2021-10-27 12:46:52 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848055858 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848068020 - Not being able to forget the horrors of war 
-How soldiers coped with what they saw and experienced
-Stories....]]> 2021-10-27 12:51:14 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1848068020 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1858584857 - emotional, it was overwhelming to the reader purposely, and the author created that emotion by flooding the reader with information. 
-it was very detailed about how the author chooses to stay. 
-hallucination seen showed how far he'd been pushed.
-ends hallucination with the guy he killed]]> 2021-11-01 12:28:07 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1858584857 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864405626 -Shame is a motivator.
-environment (people, town,) influence actions.
-How reliable is Tim? How accurate is his memory?
-Can a war story have a happy ending?
-Tim is fighting a war he doesn't believe in.]]> 2021-11-03 12:12:41 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864405626 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864419126 "I was a coward I went to the war"(58).-Tis goes against our common understanding of bravery and soldiering. Usually we think that soldiers who go off to war are brave; Tim takes this idea and flips it on its head when he suggests the brave thing to do would have been to NOT go to war. ]]> 2021-11-03 12:18:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864419126 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864427742 -What if Elroy is not real?
-"He was a witness like God, or like the gods, who look on in absolute silence as we live our lives, as we make our choices or fail to make them"(57).]]> 2021-11-03 12:22:10 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864427742 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864446645 -Your worst enemy is your own mind
-Paranoia drives people mad]]> 2021-11-03 12:29:53 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864446645 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864451238 Jenson and Strunk became "enemies", but I don't think Strunk saw him as an enemy, just Jenson. ]]> 2021-11-03 12:31:46 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864451238 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864455676 The idea that Strunk might want to get revenge for breaking his nose creates paranoia for Jenson. This leads one to consider who is the real enemy in war?]]> 2021-11-03 12:33:32 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864455676 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864458955 Jenson and Strunk made up quick. 
I know it said they took a few months to become friends but its crazy.
-Why make a pact? 

]]> 2021-11-03 12:34:52 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864458955 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864460816 Strunk dies from leg exploding. 
Jenson didn't have to put down Strunk so he felt relieved. ]]> 2021-11-03 12:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864460816 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864465423 - The whole fight started because Strunk stole Jenson's switchblade; that lead to Jenson filled with paranoia. 
-The thing that solves their conflict is Jenson breaking his own nose. ]]> 2021-11-03 12:37:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1864465423 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869803843 First Person perspective
Descriptive language allows readers to visualize it ]]> 2021-11-05 12:24:58 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869803843 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869805734 Curt dies when playing catch with rat and standing on a booby trap.
Rat shows his emotions by torturing a baby buffalo]]> 2021-11-05 12:26:03 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869805734 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869812701 Truth.
what makes a true war story?
-a war story is something hard to believe
- a story that has no morals is true
- a story that has no good guys
What is true and not true?
what is the actuality of what happened and what the point is]]> 2021-11-05 12:29:50 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869812701 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869817273 "absolute occurrence is irrelevant. A thing may happen and be a total lie; another thing may not happen and be truer than the truth" (80)]]> 2021-11-05 12:31:30 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1869817273 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878129072 Curt Lemon was a weird dude. He's scared of dentists, yet he went to the dentist on his own regard to get a shot.
-maybe to prove to himself he can do it? because he was embarrassed?]]> 2021-11-09 12:58:44 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878129072 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878134387 -Tim didn't know Lemon very well, and didn't have a good opinion of him.
-Described him as narcissistic and always trying to talk himself up
-Maybe overconfident, But Lemon was likely insecure and trying to combat that. ]]> 2021-11-09 13:00:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878134387 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878216189 War changes everyone]]> 2021-11-09 13:29:01 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1878216189 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881234562 she was innocent, young, naive, traditional view of future
curious obsession travel, live together before marriage 
she become self-aware unrestrained, she become the war/Vietnam.]]> 2021-11-10 13:26:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881234562 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881320941 Tim kept repeating the same sentence, to show the guilt building inside him. 

]]> 2021-11-10 13:55:21 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881320941 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881327963 The use of repetition and humanizing the dead man as himself. 
Fear of shame and embarrassment. 
Humanizes the vietcong ]]> 2021-11-10 13:57:25 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881327963 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881346702 He constantly places says the "man I killed" to attach the responsibility, and guilt to it]]> 2021-11-10 14:02:59 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881346702 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881348280 uses later, the body changes. the lighting changes. ]]> 2021-11-10 14:03:31 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1881348280 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886557661 Same repetition from last chapter. 

]]> 2021-11-12 13:04:40 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886557661 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886558470 He was ambushed in the story and by his daughter asking him if he had killed anyone. ]]> 2021-11-12 13:05:11 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886558470 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886560130 How killing that man has stuck with Tim.]]> 2021-11-12 13:05:58 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1886560130 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896838955 Everyone on the squad blamed themselves in someway for Kiowa's death. Even Azar.
" 'Nobody's Fault,' he said. 'Everybody's'"(168). Is a good example of how everyone felt about the freak accident that killed their friend.]]> 2021-11-17 13:28:05 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896838955 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896842133 I think it's weird that Dobbins had pantyhose from the girl but it showed how everyone had something to be attached too.]]> 2021-11-17 13:29:20 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896842133 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896843564 I think this chapter highlighted how the men's religious beliefs affected them each. ]]> 2021-11-17 13:29:55 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896843564 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896853510 This chapter is another chapter that highlights the importance of 'story-truth' and 'happening truth'
Tim explains how even if he didn't kill anyone saying he did was still a truth in itself, because he was there he attached the guilt of mens' deaths to himself which in itself made it that statement true. ]]> 2021-11-17 13:33:38 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896853510 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896879438 Tim went back to the place where Kiowa died 20 years after the war, with his daughter Kathleen. 
He explained how he felt like a part of him died there along with kiowa 20 years ago. ]]> 2021-11-17 13:43:39 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896879438 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896885487 Norman Bowker blamed himself for Kiowa's death, and drove around this lake over and over imagining conversations he would have with his dad and ex if he could. He highlights how he felt he couldn't talk to anyone about anything. ]]> 2021-11-17 13:45:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896885487 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896891082 Tim explains how 'Speaking of Courage' was a story written by Norman but wasn't necessarily about Norman, as he didn't actually almost win the Silver Star, however how it represented the truth of how people felt. The therapy that speaking provides, and how Bowker killed himself after the war because he had no one to speak to. ]]> 2021-11-17 13:47:49 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896891082 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896892692 Could it be Tim? ]]> 2021-11-17 13:48:22 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1896892692 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1931046812 It's sad, this chapter emphasized the futility of life.
I think Tim was trying to emphasize the futility of life and how stories bring people back to life.]]> 2021-12-06 13:15:54 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1931046812 lilyreid https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1931049393 Linda was Tim's elementary school girlfriend that died at 9. 
How he could visit her in his dreams, and stories brought her to life. ]]> 2021-12-06 13:17:06 UTC https://padlet.com/lilyreid/siulxde6i9w4aqox/wish/1931049393