https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z Post a reaction to the reading. Reference a fact that you found interesting, surprising, or infuriating. State the idea, how you reacted to it, and why. en-us 2017-02-07 17:54:24 UTC 2020-12-14 04:00:26 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f5e3.png hcheng9416 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832243677 I do, and everything it stands for too. But, I think the worst part that stuck out to me is that if a man assaults a woman then it's her fault. She wasn't strong enough or pure enough if it happened to her, and if it did then she would be left in silence and darkness to rot because that was how they labeled assault victims. It's the victim blaming for me.]]> 2020-10-15 13:33:06 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832243677 ksmathers3349 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832319461 This is DIFFINENTLY not my favorite reading. The victim blaming, saying that men are the ones that bring money in the family because women are too fragile and frail so they clean the house is bull. 10/10 DO NOT recommend. ]]> 2020-10-15 13:50:10 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832319461 cramirez6234 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832327262 I never really understood how people could think like this just because someone was born a different gender. They say that women have to responsible and that they have to be pure no matter what even if a man attempts to take that away from her. Yet somehow men are supposed to be superior to women even if they can't "control" their selves and their urges. Even saying how losing their purity was worse than death and how pure she is basically determines her own value. I just think its messed up. ]]> 2020-10-15 13:51:56 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832327262 Anna_M4869 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832359781 The idea of a woman's "purity" and the shame that came with lack there of was instituted by men to have control over women. It was intertwined with religion to secure the seriousness of "proper" womanhood under a theocratic government. In every situation, including ones at which men were at fault, women were severely punished for it; when men assaulted presumably "fragile" girls and took their "purity", the girls were shamed, shunned, and possibly even exiled or executed. I believe the immoral views of womanhood at that time were completely out of line with the claimed "Christian" ideology and structure of society at the time.]]> 2020-10-15 13:59:26 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832359781 dmaginnis4150 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832507515 This reading is a hard concept that we have lived with for the longest time. Just like Slavery and having zero regard for their feelings and only using them for profit and gain, the women who fall victim to "uncontrollable" men also fall victim to society and themselves because we have portrayed the idea that to those who are not strong enough to fend for themselves then it is that said persons fault. The unfairness of this ideology is great and by living in a society where we treat the faults of men towards women as faults of women then we never can really grow as a society or community. We are consciously acknowledging rapes and allegations as if it is normal when it shouldn't be. Our civilization has evolved through history as men being the heroes and strong figures with the exception of the women who showed immense bravery and strong mental fortitude's who have pushed past all the disabilities our society has given them. It shouldn't be that way it should have been these women did great things just like men did, their are most likely plenty of other womanly figures who have completed intense tasks and have not been recognized because the men of our world have all the power and control the media and many other news sources so they go unrecognized. Just in general it is hard to see all the troubles we see women go through for no reason and it is horrific to think we blame women for not being able to stop a 🤬.]]> 2020-10-15 14:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832507515 hdozier05 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832512286 The idea of two different roles based on gender is something I don't agree with and something that is not nearly as normalized in today's society. The fact that a woman should fit 4 specific qualities or she then is subject to not being pure or "premature prostitution" is absurd. ]]> 2020-10-15 14:34:00 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832512286 jlowe1587 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832516052 In the paragraph about purity, it was written that a "fallen women was a fallen angel." I find it surprising that if a women was assaulted sexually they were shunned for the rest of their life, even if they had no say in the situation.]]> 2020-10-15 14:34:48 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832516052 eslater9610 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832621390 The idea that woman are the moral and religious center of the household is very interesting because despite her being righteous and pure it is her fault if her husband does something wrong, she was supposed to make him a pious man, yet if she fails, despite it not being her fault, the society will view as her own mistake.]]> 2020-10-15 14:58:24 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/832621390 jmorris9461 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833094944 I also agree with Liam I don’t understand how people can think that women are objects. Several people talked about how different it is now but it’s really not that different. We still get paid less then men, our razors or anything “pink” in general is still more expensive, we still get raped but men do too. Many people say men and women are equal but it’s not true and you know it.]]> 2020-10-15 16:42:08 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833094944 vgriffis2513 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833107563 I don't understand why women are still treated like objects. The way religion makes women seem so "pure" and how they can't make their own choices is crazy. I agree with Henry on the idea of two different roles is so ridiculous. you don't have to be a women to clean up or raise a family. ]]> 2020-10-15 16:44:51 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833107563 JasonnNguyen https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833577283 Purity plays a big role in this article. The inequality because of gender back during this time was degusting. A woman if sexually assaulted would be averted from society as whole for something that was completely out of her control. Men had so much power of women that if a man were to do something as cruel as that all the criticism and shame would go to the woman. This article really shows how different the two ganders were treated from today. 

]]> 2020-10-15 18:35:11 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833577283 rmoss8741 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833600375 I don’t understand how people could think of women as just objects. All women should be equal no matter what. It does not matter what 🤬, race or orientation you are, everyone should be equal, and it is frustrating that this is not true. Women have the same capabilities as men do, the only difference between men and women is what gender they are, that's it, nothing else. Women should be treated equally no matter what. ]]> 2020-10-15 18:41:23 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833600375 barellano2620 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833699690 Women were seen almost as the religious center of the household, and were expected to accompany the man and satisfy him with his needs. The woman will be looked down upon if she doesn't do what the man wants, even if its not her fault. ]]> 2020-10-15 19:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833699690 acompton2764 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833843005 I think the way women were treated was horrible and even now it hasn't improved much, women and men should be treated equally women are just as capable as men to do anything they want to do, the idea that they have to be pure and religious is preposterous and doesn't make any sense at all. ]]> 2020-10-15 19:58:07 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833843005 ckyle0478 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833857433 It's so terrible to see how some people view women, seeing somebody and almost disconnecting their actual humanity from themselves is just awful, it was then and especially now. I hate the way that they are held to higher standards than men but still receive worse treatment, its disgusting to see such a blatant power imbalance between people that should be equal to one another. ]]> 2020-10-15 20:03:43 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/833857433 yrobleroramirez1942 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834073192 It's interesting to see how women were treated as objects and their voice were heard as if they had no value. If you look around in other countries,  man still treat woman like that and makes them feel as if they can't be anything for themselves and value something without a man. ]]> 2020-10-15 21:42:41 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834073192 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834318784 I don't agree with this article under any circumstances. The way women are treated in the article, is still happening in some places till this day. They are human beings too, everyone should be treated fairly no matter the gender. The idea of women being so called "fragile" is unruly, they should have the same capabilities as men.]]> 2020-10-16 00:28:36 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834318784 tdegeal4326 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834320722 I think it is disgusting how differently women were treated because of their gender. In paragraph four of the article is states that "Purity was as essential as piety to a young woman, its absence as unnatural and unfeminine. Without it she was, in fact, no woman at all, but a member of some lower order." I think it is ridiculous that if a women was not how the standard were she wasn't even considered a woman.]]> 2020-10-16 00:29:39 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834320722 epope5735 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834320726 2020-10-16 00:29:39 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834320726 jcervantesgonzalez4203 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834341155 Back then when you compared man and woman, Men were "women's superior". This article talked about how men were above woman and they were seen as people who worked from home and they had to follow certain rules to even be considered a woman. I think that people treated others different based on their gender or race and people still do today. I am amazed at the fact that some people don't realize that we are all human. ]]> 2020-10-16 00:39:22 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834341155 fhiggins0466 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834394252 the way the women are treated in the article is still happening now in some places more than others. it is upsetting that that is a way of life to some people and that it is okay to treat someone poorly because of their gender or their beliefs.]]> 2020-10-16 01:04:41 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834394252 eborges4834 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834432016 The way they treated women was bad and I do not understand how it was okay. Even to this day women are not treated as they should be. In the article it says "her society could be divided into four cardinal virtues - piety, purity, submissiveness, and domesticity... Without them.... all was ashes. With them she was promised happiness and power. " I think its stupid how they based these 4 virtues to promise a women happiness]]> 2020-10-16 01:23:01 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834432016 lbanks6309 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834519037 Its crazy that women use to and still get treated like this. The line "Man was "woman’s superior by God’s appointment" Is just awful. We are all equal no matter what gender we are. No gender is more superior or better than the other.]]> 2020-10-16 02:07:58 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834519037 hmonroe8999 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834560277 I can't comprehend the thought process behind this. To say a woman has to be pure regardless of anything that happens to her and that without purity she is not even a woman is insane and nonsensical. All this religious talk and these "attributes" and views of woman are void of any of the morals that their religion even teaches. There is nothing that brings up the mental state or how a woman feels. And the section that explains a woman is responsible for being assaulted, which she has no control over, and is rejected because of it explains enough to how disgusting this article is]]> 2020-10-16 02:29:56 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834560277 pkim9643 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834629312 I found it surprising that a woman's purity was based on if they did anything immoral or someone did anything immoral to them they would get punished and be considered an fallen angel which in their terms is an outcast. The man would basically never be punished for assaulting a woman but instead the woman would be for something they didn't even do because they were essentially forced too. It's also weird that men thought that they had more superiority over women and they only believe this because they think God gave them this power over women.]]> 2020-10-16 03:10:58 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834629312 cbaker2660 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834655550 The way that they treated women was wrong.Its interesting how women were treated like objects.They treated them like they were worthless also if they were sexually assaulted they would be looked down on by the rest of the community.]]> 2020-10-16 03:26:58 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834655550 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834671270 2020-10-16 03:37:56 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834671270 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834672801 It was definitely hard to read and process the fact that things haven't changed much at all. Especially in other places around the world there are many different example about how the behavior toward women have not changed, where we are still treated like objects and talked to badly. They use the term "women's superior" when referring to men, which is sickening that they think men hold more power and respect then woman do. ]]> 2020-10-16 03:39:00 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834672801 twood9504 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834676829 This article highlighted some of the problems that women went through and still go through. It highlighted some major issues. one being in a lot of places that women are not allowed to be independent but are seen as some mans property, and how they really aren’t see as their own person or of any value which is obviously completely wrong. It also touched on the fact that women were abs still are judged on their purity; as well as their submissiveness(etc.). And based on these, if a woman didn’t not have these she was ruined. That is just wrong in so many ways. ]]> 2020-10-16 03:41:57 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834676829 mcriswell3456 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834848443  It makes me mad that society hasn't changed and women are still stereotyped and treated like property. I disgusted me that men are thought of to be superior to women.]]> 2020-10-16 05:54:15 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834848443 12083377 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834863214 While reading this I just couldn't believe how people could do that. I don't get what they thought and how they thought it was right or even ok to put someone at a lower stand than yourself just because of their gender. All people are created equal. Even more crazy is that it it still happens today in many places around the world.

]]> 2020-10-16 06:07:53 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/834863214 eaguilar2474 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835282072 2020-10-16 12:13:23 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835282072 gpenland8896 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835433305 It's really crazy to me that it took so long for women to even be able to vote, or even be respected. It seems that in the recent few decades that we've gone so incredibly far with woman's rights so fast and granted have still a ways to go around the world still. It just seems like common sense, we are all people. Its just crazy it took so long to even take steps in the right direction. And we still have a journey ahead. ]]> 2020-10-16 13:10:43 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835433305 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835562156 Now usually I don't speak my opinion on topics like this but, We as woman and men are all equal. I've never understood how we were different besides our gender and looks. The way that the woman treated was highly unacceptable. And it's hard to believe that it still happens in some places. A lot of men feel like woman have double standards when it comes to certain things but I]]> 2020-10-16 13:46:55 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835562156 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835655121 2020-10-16 14:12:16 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835655121 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835840116 The way women were treated bak than were unbelievable and the fact tha t some of it is still going on is just terrible.Why do we have to go through all these things just to geet what we want why are we not looked at as strong or able to do half the things men can do.]]> 2020-10-16 15:01:47 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/835840116 mlinaresperez0699 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/837332601 2020-10-17 03:32:17 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/837332601 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/840882558
Joseph Gibson

]]> 2020-10-19 13:16:34 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/840882558 lthrasher9927 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/846603948 Luke T]]> 2020-10-20 20:29:01 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/846603948 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/992299936 Its unfortunate that discrimination like this has ever existed let alone then or now. Having such strict standards for women really shows how long the precedent of women somehow being lesser had lasted for, when it really shouldn't make any sense.]]> 2020-12-06 23:04:05 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/992299936 nmitchell7825 https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/1014614486 It is really nutty and disgusting that society used to make such blatant double standards normal, and actually putting the responsibility on women for men's behavior.]]> 2020-12-14 02:30:01 UTC https://padlet.com/andrew_devine/s6xargkw2f4z/wish/1014614486