https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9 en-us 2018-04-23 18:17:12 UTC 2018-04-23 21:13:15 UTC hello@padlet.com tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254549051 You must include your name at the end of the post OR as the title so that you get credit for writing it.                                             
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]]> 2018-04-23 18:18:08 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254549051 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254555124 In your opinion, is it wrong to focus on animal welfare when humans are suffering? Why or why not? Use textual evidence to back up your statement.]]> 2018-04-23 18:29:25 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254555124 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613468 Many cultures rely on animals to survive "because for BaAka, the end of the forest is the end of their culture and identity." They are also used to help the handicapped.]]> 2018-04-23 20:58:46 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613468 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613686 i personally think that we should focus on both as Ainimals are important

Aiden, why do you think this? Please expound. Mrs. H-M

Aiden, what do you think?]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:02 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613686 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613690 I think it is ok to focus on animal welfare  while humans are suffering because people like workers who cut down trees destroy animal habitats, so we need to help animals. ]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613690 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613691 However, we humans have the ability to defend and help ourselves. Animals don´t. In other words, animals are more innocent, so we humans naturally feel the tendency to help them.]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613691 sarsin503 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613727 I think we should be caring for animals because it is in our nature. According to the second article in the third paragraph, we have pets because of our biology and need for affection. ]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613727 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613738 No. I believe that if we help animals when we are suffering, when we are truly unable to help animals, both species will suffer.

Do you have evidence from the articles to support this?

Yes. From article one, many of us humans, depend on endangered species so they can get jobs. If the endangered species go extinct, many people would lose jobs.]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:15 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613738 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613778 I feel that it is not wrong to focus on animal welfare when humans are suffering because according to article #2, more and more people are marrying later or not marrying at all because they feel that the presence of a pet is better than the presence of a human. This shows that humans are starting to cope better with animals, and in terms of welfare, humans would probably care more about the ones they like. 

]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:25 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613778 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613810 It is okay for humans to focus on animal welfare, but both should be focused on at the same time

How does one do that?]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613810 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613834 It is okay to focus on animal welfare, because we depend on them, according to article 2  

But, is it ok to focus on them at the expense of helping humans who are suffering?


]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613834 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613888 I feel that we should help both animals and humans when suffering. I think this because humans help animals and animals help humans. ]]> 2018-04-23 21:00:58 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613888 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613937 I disagree because we need to worry about ourselves first because without helping ourselves, how can we help animals?

]]> 2018-04-23 21:01:11 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613937 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613955 If animals lives are as important as human lives then why do we send millions of chickens to their death constantly

]]> 2018-04-23 21:01:16 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254613955 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614160 I think its not wrong to focus on animal welfare because animals are more helpless than humans]]> 2018-04-23 21:02:19 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614160 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614202 We should focus on animal welfare because we depend on them for life

]]> 2018-04-23 21:02:30 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614202 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614219 I agree with you that it is okay to focus on animal welfare when humans are suffering because we have already ruined the environment for animals, so now it is time to help them . 
-Tanisi T. ]]> 2018-04-23 21:02:34 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614219 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614268 hey sherry shouldnt we like focus on animals first, as we idealized and industriasze them and also id like to mention that people are selfish and do not wnat change that would benefit someone else other than them]]> 2018-04-23 21:02:50 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614268 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614330 I agree with aiden but no creature is less than another. Accordig to article 1, humans depend on animals and vice versa

]]> 2018-04-23 21:03:05 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614330 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614367 We slaughter animals constantly yet we say we care about their well being. On page six of article two, it says 42 million cows are killed for human consumption each year.]]> 2018-04-23 21:03:20 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614367 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614446 Not really, because even if we focus on both, the "food chain" won't change because of more deaths. Personally, I think we should not kill more animals, instead of trying to save animals that we kill]]> 2018-04-23 21:03:50 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614446 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614468 What do you mean by your post that people are marrying later or not marrying at all

-Rishathvik


]]> 2018-04-23 21:04:01 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614468 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614563 We can't survive without other animals thriving. Dzanga Sangha said "the animals would be gone, and we might be gone, too."
Garima U.]]> 2018-04-23 21:04:29 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614563 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614586 According to article 2, paragraph 21, ¨the bigger the tragedy, the less people care.¨ I think this means that because chickens and cattle are so plentiful, people won´t care if one or two die. If it is a dog, however, people will feel more aroused.]]> 2018-04-23 21:04:36 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614586 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614611 We should focus on animal welfare because animals help us too]]> 2018-04-23 21:04:44 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614611 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614765 I see that others are saying that we depend on other animals. I do not think that we should worry only about ourselves, I believe that we should split our resources]]> 2018-04-23 21:05:33 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614765 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614774 If you can't care for yourself, there is no way you have the ability to care for other animals. It doesn't make sense to care about others if you can't take care of yourself]]> 2018-04-23 21:05:38 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614774 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614784 According to article one, as I mentionel earlier, saving animals helps humans. SO why not focus on them first and do less work?]]> 2018-04-23 21:05:42 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254614784 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615009 I mean that people are feeling that the presence of an animal is more comforting for people, which is why people are marrying later or not at all.]]> 2018-04-23 21:06:39 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615009 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615034 Responding to Sushane, we depend on chickens.If there are no more chickens left,there may not be any more humans. The same also goes for other meats. This is probably why some people are vegetarian.

]]> 2018-04-23 21:06:44 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615034 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615067 2018-04-23 21:06:53 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615067 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615161 We should also help animals because we depend on animals for many things, like milk and meat. On page 6 of article 2, it says that that millions of chickens are sent to death because humans have them for ]]> 2018-04-23 21:07:23 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615161 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615244 Even if we believe we should have the right to eat animals we shouldn't be mass killing animals just for our appetite. 42 million, seems like a lot to me.]]> 2018-04-23 21:07:49 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615244 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615251 Animals being eaten is not abuse because they are a source of food. If humans eat chickens and cows, what is wrong with eating another source of food?]]> 2018-04-23 21:07:51 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615251 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615341 Responding to Tanisi 
I agree with you because we have to focus on animal welfare because we need animals for many things]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:20 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615341 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615359 Can you give an example where animals help humans?
Garima U.]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:26 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615359 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615368 Also, animals are innocent. They don't have a voice to speak up for themselves, so we need to help them by standing up for them.]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:29 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615368 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615372 SO accordin to Article 2, we are more interested in dindividual suffering. I think that this is becuase of two reason. One, when there is only one, there is more to focus on. We feel mor ehurt becusae we focus on that one being. WIth multiple beings, it is easier to imagine them as faceless blobs. Secondly, the rise of individual self(like social media) means that this "me self me" philosipgy is taking over]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:30 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615372 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615443 We kill chickens to eat but we are keeping their population sustainable. We care about wild animals because they are endangered and they are needed to keep their ecosystems sustainable.]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:52 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615443 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615444 I don't know who wrote this, but I think you bring up a fair point. How should one respond to this?

Is it the difference between what's a pet and what is used as a food source?

]]> 2018-04-23 21:08:53 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615444 tharman_murray https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615727 2018-04-23 21:10:05 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615727 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615748 Another point that I want to make is that majority of the times, humans that are suffering are facing that fate because of their own actions, while animals have no cause of facing brutal deaths(such as slaughters.) This should lead us to care more for animals so that we can make sure that everyone receives justice.]]> 2018-04-23 21:10:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615748 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615784 It is ok to eat some animals, while when you eat dogs or cats everyone thinks you are weird. Why do you think that is?]]> 2018-04-23 21:10:27 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615784 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615894 I think there is a difference between animals that are pets and animals that are used for food. The animals that are used for food, they are specifically raised and fed to be eaten. Pets are to be loved.]]> 2018-04-23 21:11:03 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615894 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615905 According to article 2 , humans care about individuals that are helpless, like some animals so, its not wrong to focus on animal welfare]]> 2018-04-23 21:11:06 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615905 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615939 why aren't helpless humans helped (who live in third-world countries)]]> 2018-04-23 21:11:12 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254615939 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616142 2018-04-23 21:12:06 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616142 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616148 I agree with you because we help animals and animals also help us. ACcord]]> 2018-04-23 21:12:07 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616148 https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616187 Like that article 2 post, we are more concerned with "cool " animals. The thing is is that people are concerned with dolphins being caught in tuna nets, and dolphins are "cool" animals, but what about the tuna?]]> 2018-04-23 21:12:21 UTC https://padlet.com/tharman_murray/s39fbj07w8m9/wish/254616187