Who is to Blame? (Period 5) by

Who is to Blame? (Period 5) by https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7 Let the debate begin! en-us 2016-10-25 16:30:18 UTC 2026-01-20 00:41:56 UTC hello@padlet.com Victor claims he is, "the true murderer" (Shelley p.59) so he is aware that the death of Justine is his fault https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133441744 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:33:51 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133441744 "This death will carry despair to him" (Shelley 102) The creature is very aware of his actions and intended to cause harm https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442313 Meghan Townsley]]> 2016-10-26 18:35:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442313 you can't expect Victor to take care of the creature if society can't handle him either https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442359 Hannah Blackwell

]]> 2016-10-26 18:35:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442359 Creature was shunned, he was constantly brought down and no one wanted to acknowledge him, it couldn't be his own fault since he looked upon other people https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442455 trinity downs]]> 2016-10-26 18:35:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442455 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442541 Much like Holden Caulfield, the creature initilly wanted to maintain peace and innocence in his encounter with William. He calls him, "a beautiful child," "unpredjudiced," and had not lived long enough to "imbibe a horror of deformity," (Shelley, 102). The creature was brought to the brink of his own detsruction by William's (society's) ridicule. - Lindsay Lucas

]]> 2016-10-26 18:36:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442541 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442567 Learning evil is inevitable. It's encripted in our society's DNA. It's not Victor's fault because Victor wasn't ready to be a 'parent'/'father'. Maybe creature would be better without Victor! If Victor didn't isolate him, creature wouldn't know what KINDNESS IS - kaylene munoz]]> 2016-10-26 18:36:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442567 Although Victor ran away the moment he created the monster out of fear, he spewed insults at him later when he encountered the Victor later on like in the mountains. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442769 Katrina Uriarte]]> 2016-10-26 18:36:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442769 Upon seeing the creature, people "fled" and "attacked" (p. 74). Society is rejecting the creature's desire to be with mankind. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442869 Matt Buendia]]> 2016-10-26 18:36:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442869 The creature is miserable BECAUSE Victor left him alone and abandoned him https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442931 Meghan Townsley]]> 2016-10-26 18:37:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442931 The creature was aware of what he was doing, "'I too can create desolation...[I] shall torment and destroy him'"(102). He plans to destroy all of mankind due to his anger towards Victor, and even kills Victor's brother. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442957 Isabella Piziali]]> 2016-10-26 18:37:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133442957 Even though Victor left the creature, he can't be put at blame for corrupting the creature's innocence, for it is society that rejected him for his appearance https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443209 Atir Mirza

]]> 2016-10-26 18:37:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443209 His isolation was voluntary, he wasn't forced into it. While the isolation did put him in a weird head space, he still did that to himself. You can't give Victor the benefit of the doubt when it was something he himself caused. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443223 Ella H.]]> 2016-10-26 18:37:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443223 God did just leave humans to fend for themselves on Earth https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443280 Hannah Blackwell

]]> 2016-10-26 18:37:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443280 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443521 2016-10-26 18:38:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443521 Victor abandoned the creature only for his own benefit, he knew the creature would be shunned, he knew the consequences of creating him. Victor didn't want the blame to be on himself so he just left. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443655 Trinity Downs]]> 2016-10-26 18:38:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443655 That is not what society taught them that is human nature https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443859 hannah Blackwell

]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443859 Society can't be put at blame for disregarding the creature, since they don't control his appearance. They act as they do out of fear. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443861 Atir Mirza

]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443861 The creature can choose who he learns from and what he wants to pick up, he chose what he wanted to learn from society. Like how he learned how to find food and shelter, he chose these things. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443931 Emily Williams

]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133443931 They are fearful because society put these beliefs in their head that looking different is bad https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444045 ashley shirhall]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444045 It would be hypocritical to blame the cottagers because if any of us were in that situation, we would do the same thing Felix did https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444058 Katrina Uriarte]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444058 If you can't blame people for the actions when they are fearful then why blame the creature when he lived in a state of fear because of the way society treated him? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444109 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444109 If we are not to blame for actions out of fear then is it ok to murder? is it justified if you fearful? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444149 Hannah McCulligh]]> 2016-10-26 18:39:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444149 creature is kind-hearted. so when SOCIETY SHUT HIM OUT, did he have any better choice? All he wanted was to be accepted, all he wanted was love and to be love by. WAS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444249 Kaylene Munoz]]> 2016-10-26 18:40:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444249 Society didn't give the creature any chances whatsoever, but what do you expect? We as humans see differences and are afraid. We are fearful of the unknown. We shut it out in order to reserve our internal comfort and our exterior safety. If I saw a giant monster gripping my mom, I'd fight with no hesitation because he's something unfamiliar and scary. I don't blame the DeLacys for how they reacted, it's an unconscious value of society to protect ourselves from what is feared. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444272 Ella H.]]> 2016-10-26 18:40:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444272 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444571 Although the creature is certainly planning a revenge against Victor and his loved one, are they not society themselves?
Lindsay Lucas]]> 2016-10-26 18:40:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444571 The creature was following Victor when he learned to place blame and the evidence else where. Since Victor left him as soon as he was born, he picks it up from his creator and learns his traits https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444644 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444644 The creature did not want revenge until AFTER he was shunned by society, so it is society's actions and hatred that made the creature so violent https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444732 Meghan Townsley]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444732 although society is causing the pain the creature feels, he is aware of his actions and has developed morals but continues to cause chaos. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444778 Ellisia Quintana]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444778 why is that victors greatest punishment when he cares so much only about himself. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444830 Ashley S]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444830 Even though the creature has this knowledge, he still makes irrational decisions. Killing William only reveals his cynical and revenge-seeking nature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444856 Matt Buendia]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444856 he wants revenge with no just victor but he "vow[ed] eternal hatred and vengeance to all mankind"(pg 101) https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444881 Hannah McCulligh]]> 2016-10-26 18:41:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133444881 Creature wanted to be loved, he has a kind soul. He never wanted to do harm, all he wanted to do was have a family to love him. But society ruined that chance, they forced him into doing what he did. He was simply acting in hate towards his creator. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445136 Trinity Downs]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445136 Even though the creature was abandoned by Victor, he learned good morals, but acted out of anger. He does this because he is unable to choose the good in life since he cannot except the positive outcomes. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445194 Ellisia Quintana

]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:23 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445194 "I could not conceive how one man could go forth to murder his fellow..." (Shelley 84). The creature previously could not even comprehend the thought of violence and death, until he witnesses it himself (being shot after doing a good deed). Therefore, society influences him to be so hellish destructive https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445252 Meghan Townsley ]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445252 The family that taught him the value of family and kindness is also the same family who shut him out and furthered him from humanity. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445325 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445325 But after saving the human, he follows the man and stalks him leading him to get shot. It was his fault that society caused harm too him. His actions caused society to act in fear. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445348 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445348 But again, the man who shot the creature was just trying to save his family and assessed the situation on how it seemes. The creature is always in the wrong place at the wrong time https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445356 katrina uriarte]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445356 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445463 The creature was only working to protect himself when he was seeking out friends and companions such as the elderly man an William. He is working to protect his mental state and his insanity in the instance. He doesnt have the intention of causing harm and distruction in other lives.
-Jane Zorich]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445463 The creature was unjustified in killing anybody, he was only seeking vengeance for his disappointment. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445478 Isabella Piziali]]> 2016-10-26 18:42:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445478 Put it in YOUR perspective. What would you do if you saw one of your beloved ones being "attacked" by a 8 foot yellow creature? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445558 Atir Mirza]]> 2016-10-26 18:43:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445558 Most of us would act the exact same and shoot the creature not only to save our loved one but to save ourselves. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445854 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:43:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133445854 Being scared and angry does not justify his actions, it is still his fault https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446021 Hannah Blackwell]]> 2016-10-26 18:44:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446021 The creature developed his own views on life based on society, but deep down he is filled with anger. "Urged by impulse" (p 126) https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446377 Ellisia Quintana]]> 2016-10-26 18:45:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446377 Victor chose his reputation over justice and let Justine die innocent. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446412 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:45:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446412 Victor was amazed by knowledge he could not fight his passion to learn even though he was warned by God https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446668 Ashley S]]> 2016-10-26 18:45:58 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446668 But he couldn't handle the knowledge obviously since he left the monster eventually. He should've known that as soon as he started creating this monster. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446674 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:45:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446674 Victor claims he hated knowledge, but remember that Victor is telling this story after the fact. Victor already realizes the knowledge is his ultimate defeat. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446843 Jane Zorich]]> 2016-10-26 18:46:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446843 The creature knew that knowledge was going to hurt him yet he continued to learn more as an attempt to try and fit in to society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446899 Nico Saboonchi]]> 2016-10-26 18:46:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446899 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446986 But how did he ever get the idea to compare himself to Satan? Through the works of society whether it be written "history" or the words spoken to him such as "demeon" and "wretch."
Lindsay Lucas ]]> 2016-10-26 18:46:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133446986 It's the creature's environment that shaped his decisions and ultimately made him commit these dreadful acts, such as killing William. Being isolated made him lose his innocence. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447085 Atir Mirza]]> 2016-10-26 18:47:11 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447085 society had caused the creature to be isolated then causes his anger to build up which caused him to act in an angered way towards William. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447096 Hannah McCulligh]]> 2016-10-26 18:47:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447096 The creature seems hypocritical when he wages war on humanity but then goes out to save a young girl. He is emotionally unstable and is thus more prone to make rash decisions. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447214 Matt Buendia]]> 2016-10-26 18:47:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447214 When the creature was created, he was pure and innocent. Society corrupted him more than Victor was able to because Victor wasn't even around to impact him. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447351 Isabella Piziali]]> 2016-10-26 18:48:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447351 But he learned how to take care of himself without society. Like finding food and shelter. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447483 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:48:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447483 Creatures "roots" that he was developing were based not off of Victor, but of those surrounding him. For example the DeLaceys. He learned to do the good things that he learned by watching them. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447549 Trinity Downs]]> 2016-10-26 18:48:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447549 Creature was born innocent and pure while society destroyed and "dirtied" these qualities. He could of denied these aspects or he could of not copied society's nasty ways, however that'd almost be impossible since society basically raised him and was his example. His individual ordeals says a lot about society as a whole. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447604 Ella H.]]> 2016-10-26 18:48:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447604 Without any knowledge of society's evils, creature "desired to claim their protection and kindness; [his] heart yearned to be known and loved by these amiable creatures" https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447693 Kaylene Munoz]]> 2016-10-26 18:48:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447693 Was Victor influenced by society? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447766 Meghan Townsley]]> 2016-10-26 18:49:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447766 Victor was originally influenced by society, as we have learned throughout the "One Story" theory we have looked at. Growing up in society causes him to make decisions based off the negativity of society. All that Victor has done is a byproduct and evidence to support that society is to blame.  https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447838 JaneZorich]]> 2016-10-26 18:49:14 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447838 Victor, as his creator, created this impulse inside the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447943 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:49:33 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447943 Yes he was, he abandoned the creature in fear of how society would act towards the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447963 Emily Williams

]]> 2016-10-26 18:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133447963 the creature is like a child, is it his fault for acting the way he did or is victor to blame for not caring for him? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448258 Hannah McCulligh]]> 2016-10-26 18:50:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448258 There reaches a point in a child's life when the parents are no longer to blame for a child's mistake. Isn't creature at that point? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448822 Trinity Downs]]> 2016-10-26 18:51:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448822 V https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448869 2016-10-26 18:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448869 I disagree. My dad walked out and im perfectly fine https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448947 Ellisia Quintana]]> 2016-10-26 18:52:12 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133448947 He was working with what he could find. It's kind of hard to get a hold of old body parts. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449610 Emily Williams]]> 2016-10-26 18:53:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449610 Victor didnt think about the size of the creature because he didnt think his experiment would work. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449611 Ellisia Quintana]]> 2016-10-26 18:53:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449611 It was Victor's parents who gave him this god-like attitude since birth. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449740 Mikaela Becker]]> 2016-10-26 18:53:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449740 Yes Victor does what he does, the creature also did what he wanted, he made his own decisions https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449750 Ashley Shirhall]]> 2016-10-26 18:53:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449750 even if the creature had been accepted by Victor and his family would people still be prejudice towards him? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449901 Hannah McCulligh]]> 2016-10-26 18:54:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133449901 God gave Adam someone to be there for him and Victor gave the creature no one pushing him to be violent https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450006 Hannah Blackwell]]> 2016-10-26 18:54:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450006 YEEEAAAAAHHH BOIIIIII https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450151 2016-10-26 18:54:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450151 i love SHrek https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450390 2016-10-26 18:55:33 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450390 But shrek didn't kill anyone as a result https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450481 Hannah Blackwell]]> 2016-10-26 18:55:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450481 he killed my heart https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450548 2016-10-26 18:55:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450548 But Shrek helped fight a dragon https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450615 2016-10-26 18:56:05 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133450615 way to be a h camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452343 2016-10-26 19:00:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452343 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452365 Back to the Shrek analogy, Shrek a least try his best to be accepted and eventually got that acceptance. However, the creature gave up and actually killed two innocent people. If he tried harder, he could have eventually got that peaceful and loving life he wanted.
Christine Chang]]> 2016-10-26 19:00:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452365 Creature initially practices restraint "I could have torn them limb from limb as the lion rends the antelope... but I refrained" When the creature kills William it is a targeted and purposeful act of violence and rage. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452414 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:00:59 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452414 Society: Justine is a symbol of the soicety he can never be a part of https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452502 2016-10-26 19:01:13 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452502 He DID try to go to someone: The De Lacey family. We all saw how THAT worked out. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452517 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:01:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452517 But when he did go to someone, he was neglected camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452526 2016-10-26 19:01:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452526 but the creature didn't have anyone to talk to he was completely isolated and society wouldn't accept he wouldn't be able to turn to anyone for help https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452545 ramneek sanghera]]> 2016-10-26 19:01:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452545 He could have gotten help from who? society has pushed him away based on his looks and had no one to talk to. Just look at the case of the cottagers that pushed him away when he went to talk to people.                             Rebecca Belton https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452559 2016-10-26 19:01:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452559 It was society and his parents that enabled and acted as catalysts towards Victor's godlike pursuits. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452602 Justine Damolo]]> 2016-10-26 19:01:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452602 the creature learns very quickly the difference between right and wrong katelyn_chiappone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452676 2016-10-26 19:01:43 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452676 But he has a very intelligent mind, more intellegant than a regular human being https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452680 Andrew Franco]]> 2016-10-26 19:01:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452680 But he has an adult brain, he learns quickly. He is more intelligent than humans. This "child-like" state cannot be held to him for the entire duration of the book. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452722 Danielle Dymond

]]> 2016-10-26 19:01:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452722 But he looks like a monster and people are just reacting from the natural reaction of fear https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452804 steven garcia ]]> 2016-10-26 19:02:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452804 Only reason they reject him is because they fear him. Whenever they saw him, he was caught in bad scenarios or positions, making him look like a monster. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452875 Andrew Franco]]> 2016-10-26 19:02:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452875 Justine is a symbol of society he can never be a part of so he frames her in vengeance of society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452964 Gabriela Romero

]]> 2016-10-26 19:02:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133452964 Society judges the creature in a way that is literal and figurative. As if it's double. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453059 2016-10-26 19:02:47 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453059 the creature even says "i do not intend to hurt you" (p. 178) katelyn_chiappone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453086 2016-10-26 19:02:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453086 His intentions were good because he learned it from society, he learns both good and bad and still chooses the bad thing to do https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453113 Emily Manzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:02:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453113 Society can't be blamed because the men were only doing what they did because they were afraid for their lives. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453121 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:02:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453121 These names could be brought up by the ideas society could bring up to him while he was growing up. He also had grow up in this way that caused Victor to leave through the fears and ideas brought up by society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453267 Rebecca Belton]]> 2016-10-26 19:03:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453267 But William was Victor's brother. Victor must have had an influence on William. William could have just been repeating what he had heard from Victor. Victor helped shape the idea of a monster. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453270 Ramneek Sanghera]]> 2016-10-26 19:03:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453270 Everything that the creature does is to get revenge to Victor, but Victor was still concerned with what people would think of him in the trial of Justine rather than proving her innocence, so obviously he must not care about his family as much as the creature thought. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453420 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:03:53 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453420 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453429 William was so young and was already corrupted by societies values, even the monster believed that this young of a boy would not be as corrupted as the elder peoples "unprejudice" ...."had lived too short a time to have imbibed a horror of deformity"

Dom]]> 2016-10-26 19:03:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453429 The creature never really inflicted much damage to anyone and only towards William who is associated with Victor. Because it was Victor who abandoned him in the first place. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453461 Justine Damolo

]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453461 William was like 5, he's being taught to be careful around strangers and to be cautious of the world. And when this 7 foot, yellow-ish skinned creature grabs him, as a child, he is going to be scared. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453471 Danielle Dymond

]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453471 Society group is constantly making the same point that the people were only like that because society taught them to be like that. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453475 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453475 Although society is a contributing factor, the creature ultimately committed the crimes, making him to blame. "She shall suffer the murder I have committed" (Shelly 154). https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453479 Gabriela Romero]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453479 Doesn't Victor share a lot of similar views that society has towards the creature? How hideous, and terrible and wretched it is. Therefore, Victor would be apart of society and if one were to say Victor was to blame, society would have to be as well. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453485 Xzavier Caldwell

]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453485 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453505 The creature, his natural impulse is to do good. He actually "rushed" to save the girl from drowning from the forceful river. (101) He went through so much to save a person who will reject him and shoot him. He is naturally good but everything that happened to him causes him to get corrupt and accept he is an evil being.

Christine Chang]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453505 However, society also gave him many good thoughts, taught him good morals. It was the creatures choice to only rely on the bad morals. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453549 Andrew Franco]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453549 The creature is nothing but a product of Victor's creation. Any actions he performs are a reaction to his initial isolation, abandonment, and rejection by his master https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453568 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453568 Realize that before the creature came in contact with humans, he was living and learning in nature and while he was in nature he was happy and peaceful katelyn_chiappone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453662 2016-10-26 19:04:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453662 He learned very quickly, he is choosing to do all these things HIMELF https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453706 Steven Garcia

]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453706 He learned in a way that couldn't be viewed by society for he was pushed out. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453812 Rebecca ]]> 2016-10-26 19:04:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453812 The creature wasn't initially shut out from society, he was thrown into the world without any prior knowledge by Victor, beginnning that sprial of rejection from that point on https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453861 Jenny Nakano]]> 2016-10-26 19:05:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453861 He is drawn into society, he can't just learn things on his own. You can only get to a certain point on your own, to really advance you have to learn certain things from his environment. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453944 Emily Manzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:05:16 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133453944 Victor also does that, so using that logic, Victor would also be at fault. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454077 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:05:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454077 he chooses to learn because he wanted to be human. Yes this knowledge is hurting him but he wants to be accepted by the people he admires katelyn_chiappone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454098 2016-10-26 19:05:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454098 But the creature takes in all of that knowledge because he is lost and can't help himself, he doesn't know any better aside from the natural instinct of curiosity. If values were taught to him from Victor, then he wouldn't need to seek out that knowledge. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454120 Camille Baldovino]]> 2016-10-26 19:05:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454120 There is no choice in the acquirement of knowledge, it is an uncontrollable and irrevocable process compared in the novel to "lichen on a rock https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454155 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:05:56 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454155 Couldn't he have learned these ways based on who brought him up, or Victor. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454199 Rebecca ]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:02 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454199 Hes two but is gaining maturity a lot faster than an actual two year old https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454282 Steven Garcia

]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454282 "And now with the world before me, whither should I bend my steps?" The creature knew he wouldn't be accepted into society, but he kept trying to find a place in society. The creature has embarked on a futile journey and he understands he won't find a place in society but he still tries to anyways. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454394 Ramneek Sanghera]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454394 When someone commits a crime (like MURDER) you don't blame their creator or society, you blame the person's actions. And the creature made those actions. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454409 Danielle Dymond]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454409 But isn't the image of the creature a result of the person who created him? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454424 Jenny Nakano]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:49 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454424 Society has this strong grasp on the creature while he's only two years old. Showing how strong these influence could be on anyone. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454455 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:06:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454455 It's not society's job to raise the monster. Victor as a parent figure is the one who should have raise him and taught the monster morals and protect him from harm. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454589 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:20 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454589 We all have knowledge, yet we are not all rejected. Society’s rejecting the creature drove him quicker towards the inevitable. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454698 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454698 How do you expect society to accept this monster (not even a human) when they cannot even accept each other. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454737 Justine Damolo]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454737 The actions of the humans were natural, these actions were not society influenced. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454753 Andrew Franco]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454753 I don't know if wanting friends and being accepted is considered further corruption. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454761 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454761 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454794 @ hannah would you blame a toddler for anything]]> 2016-10-26 19:07:55 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454794 These ideas the people in society have gained over time come through ideas that could be spread out of time. The religious aspects of the world then could have also affected how the people lived during the time. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454840 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:08:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454840 He may be young, but he still has the brain of an adult, so he is capable of making decisions himself and forming his own opinions https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454862 Emily Manzer

]]> 2016-10-26 19:08:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454862 Society crushed him not Victor's act of abandonment. He blames society "I vowed vengeance to all mankind" (Shelly 152). https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454971 Gabriela Romero

]]> 2016-10-26 19:08:31 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133454971 The reason why he is called all of those names is because of the way Victor made him. In a real life situation, it would be like a new born baby and of course no one would say that to an innocent child. But no The Creature is a full blown person with monstrous features. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455052 Camille Baldovino]]> 2016-10-26 19:08:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455052 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455182 Even if Victor accepted the creature, what could he done? People would still judge the creature and probably bring Victor and the creature to the same downfall. They probably would have been both killed instantly in the end.Bringing in the same fate or bring a worse fate in the end.
Christine Chang]]> 2016-10-26 19:09:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455182 Yeah why didn't Victor just kill him wut https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455350 2016-10-26 19:09:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455350 The majority of killers are normal members of society, isolation has no effect on their future actions. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455359 Jenny N

]]> 2016-10-26 19:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455359 He could have nurtured the creature, and taught him not to fear or mistrust society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455362 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455362 No matter what happens, they would still be seen as outcast by their appearences   https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455368 2016-10-26 19:09:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455368 If he killed the monster his hard work would have left him all together. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455424 Rebecca

]]> 2016-10-26 19:09:51 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455424 We infer that if Victor stayed with the creature at "birth" things would have turned out better, but wouldn't the creature still learn from the society he would be apart of? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455454 Xzavier Caldwell]]> 2016-10-26 19:10:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455454 If Victor created him, couldn't he have created the monster to be better-looking or couldn't he have made the monster peaceful? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455459 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:10:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455459 All Victor has to do now is to make another monster to be Rocky's companion. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455655 2016-10-26 19:10:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455655 Why did Victor leave the creature? Because he feared how SOCIETY would react! https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455672 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455672 Again, if the creature had learned these things from a father figure, aka Victor,he would be set on a different path. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455746 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:10:44 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455746 If Victor really feared how SOCIETY would react, he wouldn't have made the monster in the first place. Honestly, Victor went against society before by accepting Enlightened ideas which was frowned upon by a few professors. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455800 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:10:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455800 experimentation through ideas of enilightment https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455838 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455838 Was the monster really that hateful or spiteful before being berated and attacked by the family or the man? I'm pretty sure the monster said he hated all of humanity. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455891 Justine Damolo]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:10 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455891 Yes, Victor was the motivation for the Creature's actions. camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455952 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455952 The only reason the creature killed someone was because Victor had wronged him. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455960 Ramneek Sanghera]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455960 He only feared and mistrusted society because of his rejection by Victor https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455970 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133455970 Victor fled from the creature because it was dangerous to society, but really society was dangerous to the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456022 Xzavier Caldwell]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456022 But the creature is an infant, and born with human-like features. So you can't apply the same logic based off of an entirely different species https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456044 Jenny Nakano]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456044 If a mother had a child, but the child turned out to be a serial killer, would you blame the child? Just like blaming Victor for the Creature's actions? camille_baldovino https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456071 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456071 But what influenced that kid? if that kid is surrounded by good people, what could have lead that kid to decide to go against what he has been taught? katelyn_chiappone https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456072 Katie Chiappone]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456072 Dom https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456095 Its like you guys are saying that if there was no columbine high school there would be no shooting… dig deeper go on another path]]> 2016-10-26 19:11:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456095 Creature has reason to blame society since he tried multiple times to let his inner virtue show. After saving the girl at the river he gets shot and exclaims " This was then the reward of my benevolence" (Shelly 151). https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456166 2016-10-26 19:12:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456166 Sharks aren't humans, the situations are different https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456169 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:12:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456169 Victor didn’t have to stay with him, but that doesn’t make it any less his fault... https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456226 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:12:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456226 But victor was scared regardless thats why he left https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456299 Steven Garcia

]]> 2016-10-26 19:12:19 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456299 The sharks show how naturally this could happen.  https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456362 2016-10-26 19:12:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456362 Isolation brought him into a state that wasn't making it okay for Victor to bring up the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456446 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:12:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456446 Victor is to blame because no matter what he teaches the creature, the creature is going to learn from him. Any influence he has on the creature, such as leaving him right away, is going to affect the creature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456517 Emily Manzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:12:48 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456517 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456712 I agree with Justin. Victor is corrupted and if he did raise the creature, the creature could have become worse than what he actually became.
Christine Chang]]> 2016-10-26 19:13:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456712 But society didn't do that well of a job either. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456752 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:13:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456752 Victor only tries to “play God” because he was treated like a god by his parents (i.e. society) https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456753 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:13:32 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456753 Victor is not responsible for the direct actions of the creature "I could with pleasure have destroyed the cottage and its inhabitants and have glutted myself with their shrieks and misery" The creature has sinister thoughts and actions regardless. Whether or not he wanted it, he has fallen into the role of "monster" https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456955 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:14:05 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456955 Could Victor have been the Fiona to the Creature as she was to Shrek? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456964 2016-10-26 19:14:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456964 Justine was influenced religiously giving her different roots than other people, like Victor, so there choices would have been different. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456986 Rebecca ]]> 2016-10-26 19:14:11 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133456986 In the end talking about what if scenarios is pretty useless so we should really be talking about whats HAPPENING in the book. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457074 Justine Damolo]]> 2016-10-26 19:14:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457074 If they both wanted to be isolated, they could have been. At least they would be together. Away from anything else. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457334 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:15:05 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457334 As we can see with Victor during the creation of the creature, isolation isn't always best for human kind. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457492 Rebecca ]]> 2016-10-26 19:15:38 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457492 Isn’t Victor a part of society? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457504 2016-10-26 19:15:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457504 Victor is not a part of society since he isolated himself for the entire time he made the monster. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457678 2016-10-26 19:16:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457678 How did he learn to spell and read, speaking gives no inside? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457763 2016-10-26 19:16:25 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457763 I think you're blaming society, not the creature... https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457882 2016-10-26 19:16:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457882 Honestly the creature should take the L just straight up leave because NOBODY likes him. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457996 Justine Damolo]]> 2016-10-26 19:17:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133457996 god made adam and eve to be flawed and less than him while victor created his creature to be flawless and better than humans,, fault : Victor https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458053 Dom]]> 2016-10-26 19:17:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458053 Could you see this creature on the woman as a modern day crime, rape, that has influenced many others. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458086 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:17:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458086 Do you think even if the creature would have stayed with victor, Victor would have conditioned him to believe that he was an outcast also? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458260 Camille Baldovino

]]> 2016-10-26 19:17:57 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458260 "...the picture of an omnipotent God warring with his creatures was capable of exciting." The novel Paradise Lost encouraged the creature to go after Victor. If he went after his creator, the creature would take the place of the humans. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458277 Ramneek Sanghera]]> 2016-10-26 19:18:00 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458277 Society is also repeating the same points https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458295 2016-10-26 19:18:06 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458295 OKAY BUT EVERY GROUP ONLY HAS ONE ARGUMENT IT'S NOT JUST VICTOR'S GROUP https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458306 2016-10-26 19:18:08 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458306 The creature feels like he’s not enough. How did he learn that he’s not enough? Society. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458312 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:18:10 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458312 What came first, the Victor or the society? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458372 Spencer Seltzer]]> 2016-10-26 19:18:22 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458372 https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458451 There are many heroes in stories where they go against society but in this case they both confirmed to society and accept their roles. Society has triumph in Frankenstein.
Christine Chang

]]> 2016-10-26 19:18:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458451 Society group is only saying that the mean attitude of the people made the monster angry. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458462 2016-10-26 19:18:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458462 Victor went back into society right after the creature so without this societal influences than the creature, or victor could have been played out differently. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458489 Rebecca]]> 2016-10-26 19:18:52 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458489 But even so, Victor was still isolated. He ran from his family to reflect on himself (alone) in nature. https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458549 Sylvester Jung]]> 2016-10-26 19:19:07 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458549 Victor was never really a part of society, from the beginning he was isolated with only his doting parents and then later on buried in his work, away from the rest of his friends and family. Even after the incident, Victor flees into isolation https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458565 Jenny Nakano]]> 2016-10-26 19:19:11 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458565 If society was to blame, wouldn't it have conditioned everyone else the same way as Victor and the Creature were? Would Justine be like Victor? William? https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458568 2016-10-26 19:19:11 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458568 Victor is just acting like a true go https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458648 2016-10-26 19:19:37 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458648 Victor’s a loser, but that doesn’t mean HE’S responsible for his creature’s actions https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458687 Josiah Williams]]> 2016-10-26 19:19:45 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458687 “his hair was lustrous … black…(and) flowing” page 55 : victors fault for making his creature have god like flow and god like hair https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458757 Dom but that's not about the debate i just wanted to mention his flow]]> 2016-10-26 19:20:01 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133458757 END ecavolt https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133461106 Mrs. Cavolt]]> 2016-10-26 19:28:21 UTC https://padlet.com/ecavolt/s18t2lxwgwb7/wish/133461106