Evidence - School shootings p -2 by Trenton McCullough https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw Evidence-based discussion en-us 2018-03-02 18:23:49 UTC 2018-05-22 21:28:07 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Diskette.png Karma nsarol19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303863 1) Only teachers who can be trusted and has experience with using guns and still does shooting classes should be held with the responsibility of using a gun.
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1) There was a police officer at the scene, but he waited outside while the shooting was happening
- Donald Trump says that he was a coward
2) Can't judge someone who was under fire with the natural instinct to run, while you don't have any understanding with being under fire
3) Having guns at school
- may not be effective
- may cause more problems
- not always accurate while defending themselves
- having more stress on teachers to know how to use a gun (police train thousands of hours on how to use a gun)
- police confused on who is good, who is bad, who is the shooter (confusion)
- when under pressure, it's hard to make life or death decisions
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1) Donald Trump giving bonus's to teachers who undergo gun training
2) some of the staff in texas are armed with guns
- "I don't believe teachers should be armed. I believe teachers should teach"
- some students feel protected with teachers being armed with guns

- You could have more security or police walking around the school
- security cameras placed in a lot of places to keep the school in check
-  have more exits
https://blog.koorsen.com/2014/08/smart-ways-to-keep-schools-safe 
- utilize a thorough visitor management system
-  train staff to know how to react in different situations 
- using access control instead of keys, and so much more.]]> 2018-03-05 19:21:33 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303863 Notes, don't copy good notes iramel19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303865 *insert notes*
 Some Utah teachers already bring guns to school, this issue is happening such as a shooting or a terroristic threat.
(CBS)
- Donald Trump wants to arm many teachers with guns
- (Kylie ann) A teacher used to be part of the NRA
- During the Florida shooting, one fully armed police officer stayed outside during the shooting
- It is a natural instinct to run from a gun shot
- Teacher are already overworked, and some people except them to learn how to use firearms. It is not hard for police officers because it is their primary job, they have thousands of hours of training, how to use a firearm
- Teachers with guns may turn of students
- It's hard to make decisions under pressure as oppose to when being quiet and alone at a shooting range.
- A school in Texas allows staff to have firearms during school hours to protect students


]]> 2018-03-05 19:21:33 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303865 NOTES: tholly19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303999 -  Donald trump wants to arm teachers with guns to prevent from students getting hurt
- Having teachers armed would "not be effective and would only cause more problems" 
- Police could get confused with the shooter and the teacher armed. (more confusion)  
- Law enforcement should be dealing with this, as this is there job, being a teacher isn't about saving people's lives. They could potentially make big mistakes. 
- is not a one time training situation 
- A school is not a place for guns 
-  It is a natural instinct to run away from danger, what will teachers do in this type of situation? 
- It takes a LOT of practice to be trained with a gun. It seems as though we are training teachers to be police, when they are supposed to be trained to be teachers
-  " I don't think teachers should be armed, I think they should teach"
- Students feel more protected when aware of teachers being armed.
-  ]]> 2018-03-05 19:21:46 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238303999 School schooting anatividad19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304016 There were students  killed due to one person.I think that gun laws are really easy to pass.Teens 18 and older can get a gun no problem.They should make gun laws more harder, like people who wants a gun need to show their id to show they have authorization to have a gun.]]> 2018-03-05 19:21:47 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304016 notes hcampos19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304046 -teacher brings gun at school to protect the students from any harm
-police officer was at school and armed but did not go in the school
-that law enforcement are not always accurate, still police officers still make mistakes
-students think that they are protected
-I don't think teachers should be armed, I think they should teach
-students feel more protected, when teachers are armed
-law enforcements should eb dealing with these kinds of stuff, not teachers

]]> 2018-03-05 19:21:50 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304046 Don't copy notes -MJY 2 gud 4 u myoro19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304152 - Some teachers already bring guns to school, incase of an issue is happening such as a shooting or a terroristic threat.
(CBS)
- Donald trump wants to arm many teachers with guns
- (Kylie ann) A teacher used to be part of the marines
- There was a police officer on campus, whom was armed 
- Teachers with guns may cause more problems or may not be effective.
- It takes 1000s of hours to train an officer, we can't train teachers for thousands of ours to use guns, and also train them how to teach too.
- More armed people my cause confusion for law enforcement.
- It's hard to make decisions under pressure as oppose to when being quiet and alone at a shooting range.
- Some schools are already putting donald trumps idea into action.
- Some students agree that teachers should hold guns.]]> 2018-03-05 19:22:01 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304152 Gun for teachers notes alanderoz19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304487 - Trump made a speech about how teachers should hold firearms
- During the Florida shooting, one fully armed police officer stayed outside during the shooting
- It is a natural instinct to run from danger 
- More training is required for teachers to get firearms
- Training - 1000s of hours
- It is hard to be good under pressure
- Continued training
- A school in Texas allows staff to have firearms during school hours to protect students
- Students feel protected with the teachers having guns
- A teacher in Utah carries a firearm at school to protect herself and her students]]> 2018-03-05 19:22:37 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304487 Notes gcruz19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304510 Utah teacher carries a gun for her own protection.
Donald Trump made comments about teachers should have firearms.
Donald Trump said the teachers should train and have firearms for bonus pay.
Guns can cause problems.
Teachers might accidentally shoot students.
Teachers are not always accurate.
Teachers can get confused to who to shoot bad guys.
Texas school allows teachers to carry guns.


 


]]> 2018-03-05 19:22:40 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238304510 notes smagaoay19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305069 2018-03-05 19:23:32 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305069 Gun for Teachers Notes dallera19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305210 Donald Trump said that a Police officer wasn't investigating in where the shooting happened because he stayed outside. The lady was addresing was Donald Trump was saying and said that if people hear gunshots then the option would take is to run. And if you have a gun then you have the power to stop a shooting. The Lady's opinion on arming teachers with guns to stop school shootings is that teachers could turn on students. She made a point that teachers have training to be a teacher and that is a lot and they are adding on training to assess a school shooting. An they have to be comfortable with using guns and know what to do in when to engage the shooter. Some students want teachers to be armed with guns because they think they will  be safe
https://everytownresearch.org/reports/analysis-of-school-shootings/]]> 2018-03-05 19:23:46 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305210 the teacher carrys a gun to school to protect her and her children smagaoay19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305815 2018-03-05 19:24:44 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305815 School shooting ccapitle19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305965 Teachers should be armed but they should take classes on how to actually shoot and aim well and they should only use it when there is actually a shooter and not aiming at their kids. BUt i also think that teachers  shouldn't be armed because that's why schools have security  guards and schools should have like this button that banks have when there is a robbery but a button for a school when there's like a shooter so that way they don't need to use there phones to call and there ain't any noise all you have to do is press the damn button and they should have like a button by there desk and there wouldn't be any noise and the shooter wont be able to hear anything. Schools should also have something in there class that can protect students or put students in like ]]> 2018-03-05 19:24:59 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238305965 Notes about school shooting anatividad19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238311523 -Teachers should not have a gun in school because it will cause more problem
-addition training to teaching and learn how to shot a gun and protect students.
-Not alwayś accurate.
-Teaching = 1000 hours of training + another 1000 hours of training on using a gun.(over training)
-Confusion on which person starting it and which one is a teach and which one is the one who shoot.People could lie in front of the fully trained law enforcements.


]]> 2018-03-05 19:33:25 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238311523 smagaoay19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238319044 teachers shouldnt have guns

]]> 2018-03-05 19:45:46 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/238319044 Notes for School shooting project alanderoz19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241078685 Essential question: Are firearms the answer to the school safety problem?
Sources:
- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/22/us/school-safety-mass-shootings.html
- https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/learning/should-teachers-be-armed-with-guns.html
- https://www.usnews.com/debate-club/did-the-sandy-hook-shooting-prove-the-need-for-more-gun-control/teachers-should-be-allowed-to-carry-firearms
- https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/the-absurdity-of-armed-educators/553961/
Pros/Cons:
Pros;
- These tools should sit in glass cases right next to the fire alarm and fire extinguisher. (U.S. News/Teachers Should Be Allowed to Carry Firearms)
- Dave Workman, the senior editor of The Gun Mag and communications director of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, said arming guards or teachers could act as a deterrent so that no one had to draw a weapon in the first place. (New York Times/Should Teachers Carry Guns?)
- Teachers who were qualified to handle a weapon — Mr. Trump estimated between 10 percent and 40 percent — would receive “a little bit of a bonus,” he said, adding that he would devote federal money to training them. (The New York Times/Should Teachers Be Armed With Guns?)
Cons;
- In the creation of the carceral state, in the expansion of drug laws, and in the extreme militarization of police in recent years, people have argued that placing more guns in the hands of authorities is the only way to keep people safe. But why would pro-Second Amendment enthusiasts be in favor of providing more firepower to the government? (The Atlantic/Arming Educators Violates the Spirit of the Second Amendment)
- Accidents happen. Guns can fall out of holsters, be taken from the classroom or accidentally discharge. (The New York Times/Should Teachers Carry Guns?)
- “You don’t want to have a gun that’s available to a student or another worker who may have mental health issues,” said Maureen S. Rush, vice president for public safety and superintendent of the Police Department at the University of Pennsylvania. (The New York Times/Should Teachers Carry Guns?)


]]> 2018-03-12 19:10:48 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241078685 Call to action-notes tholly19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241079403 Essential question: How are students protesting for safety and what are the steps  to students safety?
Students in Wisconsin are organizing a 50-mile march to Speaker Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) hometown later this month to demand action on gun control.
"We have grown up experiencing school shootings followed by this inaction, and we refuse to let it happen this time,” she said in a press release.
students are willing to waste there own spring break to follow through a protest - 4 days long -  students plan to sleep in high schools.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/377923-wisconsin-students-to-march-50-miles-to-ryans-hometown-to
There were 464,033 total gun deaths between 1999 and 2013: 270,237 suicides (58.2% of total deaths); 174,773 homicides (37.7%); and 9,983 unintentional deaths (2.2%).  Guns were the leading cause of death by homicide (66.6% of all homicides) and by 🤬 (52.2% of all suicides). Firearms were the 12th leading cause of all deaths. American children under age 15 were nine times more likely to die of a gun accident than children in other advanced wealthy countries… About 200 Americans go to emergency rooms every day with gunshot wounds." guns are causing deaths! 



]]> 2018-03-12 19:12:13 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241079403 Call to Action Notes iramel19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241079745 EQ: Are guns the answer to the school safety problem?
Original Sources:
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/3/2/17064240/arming-teachers-black-latino-students-danger-school-discipline
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/reports/2017/04/07/430247/keeping-americas-schools-safe-gun-violence/
http://www.nea.org/home/54092.htm
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/07/us/politics/parkland-school-shooting-congress-gun-control.html
- they are suggesting to arm teachers with a gun, and have to practice with guns
- The current federal law helps ensure that schools remain safe places of learning for students, faculty, and other personnel by limiting the ability of individuals to carry loaded, concealed guns on K-12 school grounds
- More schools are getting metal detectors. | Students are still bringing weapons to school.
Some schools are hiring police officers for enforcement.  | There are still many school shootings.
Schools are becoming more aware of the dangers and are taking more precautionary measures. | Students are scared to go to school.
A new organization, SASS (Students Against School Shootings) was formed and is helping people become more aware of the dangers.  | Schools and police officers are cracking down so much on this that children and teenagers are getting strip searched for only talking to their friends about other shootings." this shows pros and cons of having security measures to prevent from another shooting.
-]]> 2018-03-12 19:12:57 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241079745 call to action -notes smagaoay19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241080163 EQ are guns the answer to the school safety problem?]]> 2018-03-12 19:13:56 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241080163 Call to action notes anatividad19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241087181 EQ: Could removing guns make the solution for mass shooting schools good or bad, and why?
-some pros and cons by http://www2.gvsu.edu/alvestek/proscons.htm
"More schools are getting metal detectors. | Students are still bringing weapons to school.
Some schools are hiring police officers for enforcement.  | There are still many school shootings.
Schools are becoming more aware of the dangers and are taking more precautionary measures. | Students are scared to go to school.
A new organization, SASS (Students Against School Shootings) was formed and is helping people become more aware of the dangers.  | Schools and police officers are cracking down so much on this that children and teenagers are getting strip searched for only talking to their friends about other shootings." this shows pros and cons of having security measures to prevent from another shoting.
-Another shows on http://time.com/5158678/what-to-know-about-the-active-shooter-situation-at-florida-high-school/ were a students take out a rifle and started to shoot in the classrooms then blend in with the students and ran off.I think removing guns make the problem good because if that student did't have a rifle then i can't do mass shooting in school.
-Next is on Vox https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/6/16612014/sutherland-springs-shooting-good-guy-gun were they are saying "a good guy carry a gun" it showsthat when a good guy carries a gun it could save the problem before it get's worst, but there are some disclaimers about it.Like they might not respond to the shooting in time, and also guns could be the only solution that might cause shooting to happen.More guns,more death.
-Lastly on cnn news https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-history-fast-facts/index.html were a person shot 21people including children in a local Mcdonals in1984, soon technologhy will hurt more people and more damage to 🤬 people in the future.

]]> 2018-03-12 19:27:38 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241087181 Call to action - Notes and sources myoro19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241089545 https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/21/17028930/gun-violence-us-statistics-charts
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mass-shootings-are-an-american-problem-theres-an-american-solution/2017/10/02/ac934588-a7ac-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/opinion/mass-shooting-vegas.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/02/21/trumps-solution-for-school-shootings-arm-teachers/?utm_term=.ae2ba0aa5c31
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/opinion-to-prevent-school-shootings-can-mental-health-be-taught (Ivan isn"t cool)
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/how-teens-want-to-solve-americas-school-shooting-problem (Opinion and solutions by kids and teens)
Notes - 
EQ - Is getting rid of guns the only solution to stop mass/school shootings?
1
  • - There are many solutions to gun violence and mass shootings. One of them being the main one stricter gun regulations
  • Some senators/congress members do not want to pass these laws.
  • March 14th is a national walk out due to it being exactly one month from February 14 when the shooting took place. This walk out is to put pressure on our state and federal lawmakers to pass and vote for the gun regulations.
  • 2
  • Mass shootings barely take place anywhere else besides the U.S.A

]]> 2018-03-12 19:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241089545 Stop violence jugapo19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241090367 EQ: What I'm going to be researching is "Why do people with mental illness have guns?" Also, "Why isn't the age to own a gun going up but the age for other legal things are going up?"

]]> 2018-03-12 19:34:52 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/241090367 Call to action notes anatividad19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/242124346 EQ: Could removing guns make the solution for mass shooting schools good or bad, and why?
-some pros and cons by http://www2.gvsu.edu/alvestek/proscons.htm
"More schools are getting metal detectors. | Students are still bringing weapons to school.
Some schools are hiring police officers for enforcement.  | There are still many school shootings.
Schools are becoming more aware of the dangers and are taking more precautionary measures. | Students are scared to go to school.
A new organization, SASS (Students Against School Shootings) was formed and is helping people become more aware of the dangers.  | Schools and police officers are cracking down so much on this that children and teenagers are getting strip searched for only talking to their friends about other shootings." this shows pros and cons of having security measures to prevent from another shoting.
-Another shows on http://time.com/5158678/what-to-know-about-the-active-shooter-situation-at-florida-high-school/ were a students take out a rifle and started to shoot in the classrooms then blend in with the students and ran off.I think removing guns make the problem good because if that student did't have a rifle then i can't do mass shooting in school.
-Next is on Vox https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/6/16612014/sutherland-springs-shooting-good-guy-gun were they are saying "a good guy carry a gun" it showsthat when a good guy carries a gun it could save the problem before it get's worst, but there are some disclaimers about it.Like they might not respond to the shooting in time, and also guns could be the only solution that might cause shooting to happen.More guns,more death.
-Lastly on cnn news https://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-deadliest-mass-shootings-in-u-s-history-fast-facts/index.html were a person shot 21people including children in a local Mcdonals in1984, soon technologhy will hurt more people and more damage to 🤬 people in the future.

]]> 2018-03-14 22:01:16 UTC https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/242124346 Call To Action Notes ccapitle19 https://padlet.com/tmccullough3/rzjemf188qkw/wish/242675568 EQ: Is removing guns the solution or is it just gonna make the students think that they're unsafe now?

Cons of having teachers armed in school:
-Having more guns would just cause more shootings and access to these guns. In order to control guns, you must limit them. Having fire arms in school would also cause students to feel less safe and more likely to be targeted if you are in a heated situation, you would always have to watch your back.
- What happens if the teacher doesn't lock it up right? A student could get it and it could be a 4 or 5 year old or it could be a 16 or 17 year old and it would cost more money that schools don't have to train teachers and what if the teachers use the training in the wrong way. Did you ever think of that?
- Why the heck would a teacher bring a gun to school!? The teacher may have serious mental problems plus anger issues. Plus some teachers might leave the gun unattended and the child might pick up the gun and play with it. And you know what happens when a child plays with a gun.
Pros of teachers being armed:
-Responsible adults who know how to handle a weapon properly should be able to carry with a conceled weapon permit. It's abserd to think that a good civilian with proper knowledge of weapons would leave the weapon on the desk or within reach of students. Conceled carrying permits means they are hidden so the student wouldn't even know.
- Teachers need to be able to protect their students. I do not believe in just giving some 🤬 teacher a gun. I think that the gun should be locked into a indastructable box that is only able to be unlocked in an intruder emergency. The principal would be informed when a gun is out and could unlock or lock the box if needed to
-Without the fire arms lots of people and children will be killed. Many schools have done it so why don't all schools carry weapons. Also the teachers would more than likely have to be trained. That would prove to adminastraters it is safe to let teachers carry guns in schools. In Sandy Hook Elementary school the weapons were brought in by an intruder. The children were not killed by a teacher.

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