https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2 en-us 2020-09-09 21:37:49 UTC 2026-01-24 18:57:10 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739205253 2020-09-11 15:46:19 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739205253 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739211793 2020-09-11 15:47:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739211793 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739215906 2020-09-11 15:48:22 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739215906 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739219858 2020-09-11 15:49:08 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739219858 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739225809 2020-09-11 15:50:19 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739225809 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739239618 2020-09-11 15:53:10 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739239618 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739243785 The valley of ashes is a farm covered with ashes. The ashes represent both the evil and death in the valley as well as the people that live there. The way the evil they do is covered up by their money and riches.

]]> 2020-09-11 15:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739243785 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739246008 Mr. Wilson is blonde, spiritless and anemic. Myrtle is a beautiful, thickish figure, and evil person. They fit this dark, shady, and dreary setting, because Mr. Wilson’s physical description fits the setting and Myrtle's secret actions also match the setting.

]]> 2020-09-11 15:54:31 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739246008 cfisher221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739247375 The Valley of Ashes is supposed to represent the death and despair that comes with the area, people in the lower class are constantly struggling while the people in the higher classes are dancing, drinking, and smoking.]]> 2020-09-11 15:54:49 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739247375 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739249131 it looks dirty, hopeless but busy and represent the base of the fancieness in new York, the backside, darkside of it. the appearance of New York covered this rotten place, which also hides the cheating of Tom.]]> 2020-09-11 15:55:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739249131 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739249959 In my eyes he is no better than the people he hangs around, because he fact that Tom felt comfortable telling him, “come meet my girl” even though he’s married to his cousin tells you all you need to know.

]]> 2020-09-11 15:55:21 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739249959 bvos22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739250746 2020-09-11 15:55:31 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739250746 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739251124 Tom breaks Myrtle’s nose which shows he is an abusive and selfish character. 

]]> 2020-09-11 15:55:37 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739251124 jdavis2216 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739252055 “Daisy was not a Catholic, and I was a little shocked at the elaborateness of the lie.”(pg 33) This quote shows you how far the people in the story are willing to go to justify their wrong doing.

]]> 2020-09-11 15:55:48 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739252055 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739253762 The valley of ashes is a place between West Egg and New York where lower-class people lived. It stands for poverty and desolation.]]> 2020-09-11 15:56:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739253762 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739254383 2020-09-11 15:56:19 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739254383 cfisher221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739260261 They're a generally unhappy couple, and its obvious that Mr.Wilson is just doing his best to make himself successful to make his life work, while his wife cheats on him. They fit the setting.]]> 2020-09-11 15:57:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739260261 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739261291 it is a lower class area and ashes represent the life of being a laborer]]> 2020-09-11 15:57:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739261291 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739263176 I consider them as very fit to the setting, Myrtle cheats, she dress very Gaudy and in opposite her husband is dirty and with bad personality, don't have nice relationships, I would say. they suit this rotten valley, with the dirtiness and dusts.]]> 2020-09-11 15:58:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739263176 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739269362 they do not seem to be happy together, and myrtle fits the setting with her dreary mood]]> 2020-09-11 15:59:25 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739269362 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739269876 they don't fit in the system and they are opposites of each other.

]]> 2020-09-11 15:59:33 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739269876 cfisher221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739271013 Nick is definitely not a good person, as he sits by and watches while Daisy's husband cheats on her, abuses her, and then breaks his mistresses nose.]]> 2020-09-11 15:59:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739271013 bvos22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739273351 2020-09-11 16:00:16 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739273351 cfisher221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739275076 It shows that he has no self control and (has a fragile masculinity) and when he doesn't get what he wants he hurts others.]]> 2020-09-11 16:00:39 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739275076 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739275762 I would say neither, because he seems to not be the type of person to blend in, but his apathetic behavior and emotionlessness helps him not stick out.]]> 2020-09-11 16:00:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739275762 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739280536 he is completely different from them, he seldom drink, he don't like the chaos Tom was making, he always try to walk away but he can't , because Tom always stops him from getting away. He is the one with ambition and pure mind, ]]> 2020-09-11 16:01:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739280536 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739282464 He is abusive and short tempered, and he is used to getting away with actions like this, as he is not called out for his violence.]]> 2020-09-11 16:02:17 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739282464 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739282554 he is no better than the people he hangs around as he was shown to be just a watcher which makes him guilty by association.]]> 2020-09-11 16:02:18 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739282554 bvos22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739283224 2020-09-11 16:02:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739283224 cfisher221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739283376 'we all looked, the knuckle was black and blue' (its important to Tom's character because now we know he's abusive]]> 2020-09-11 16:02:28 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739283376 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739289172 -Elsa]]> 2020-09-11 16:03:40 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739289172 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739289947 Tom slapped her in the face and broke her nose. he's with a bad temper, he doesn't like other women to mention Daisy in front of him, which means he actually loves her.]]> 2020-09-11 16:03:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739289947 bvos22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739291709 2020-09-11 16:04:12 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739291709 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739291795 -elsa]]> 2020-09-11 16:04:14 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739291795 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739295571 it reveals that tom is a short tempered abusive man.]]> 2020-09-11 16:05:04 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739295571 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739296580 Nick is similar to the people he hang around with at some point. However, he does behave well a]]> 2020-09-11 16:05:16 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739296580 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739304610  'Here's your money. Go and buy ten more dogs with it.'  it shows that Tom is rich and with bad temper.]]> 2020-09-11 16:06:56 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739304610 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739306029 2020-09-11 16:07:12 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739306029 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739309470 -Elsa]]> 2020-09-11 16:07:43 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/739309470 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740076424 2020-09-11 18:49:57 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740076424 cisaacson22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740694766 The valley of ashes represents where the lower class people work and live. It is described as a "fantastic farm" (23), implying that it area doesn't even look like part of the city. It is also described as a "desolate area of land" (23), which shows how little the upper class values the homes of the lower class. This also points to the large economical gap between classes.]]> 2020-09-12 02:55:16 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740694766 cisaacson22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740698319 It's a bit of a mix whether or not the Wilsons fit the setting. On the one hand it is abnormal for two people of different social classes to be married. On the other hand, both Mr. and Mrs. Wilson fit their own settings very well. Mr. Wilson appears to be hard working and a common member of the lower class. Mrs. Wilson is clearly a great representative of the upper class. She cheats and changes dresses four times a day. ]]> 2020-09-12 03:01:43 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740698319 cisaacson22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740701046 Nick is like a stick in a river, he goes with the flow. He knows a lot about both sides of any given conflict, but he finds a way to stay completely neutral and not get involved. He also appears to judge less than the people he's around. Most of the characters in this book are snobby and self centered, but Nick doesn't seem to judge others nearly as much. ]]> 2020-09-12 03:06:37 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740701046 cisaacson22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740703445 Tom smacked Myrtle in the head and broke her nose after she was asking why she couldn't say Daisy's name. This reveals Tom's thin skin and his expectation of respect from his partners. He expects to be the boss of any relationship he's in, and if he feels push back he feels he has to end it quickly. His mistress saying his wife's name might also revel some guilt for what he's doing, tho his personality doesn't seem do line up with that. ]]> 2020-09-12 03:10:53 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740703445 cisaacson22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740706376 "It's really his wife that's keeping them apart. She's catholic, and they don't believe in divorce." (33). This quote is important because it truly shows what the upper class acts like in this book. Daisy is not Catholic, so Myrtle's sister made up a lie with no basis for gossip purposes. They have no thought for anyone but themselves and it's all shown in the lie.  ]]> 2020-09-12 03:15:58 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/740706376 emora221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741517632 The valley of ashes is a lower class almost hidden area between west egg and New York. A more farming type of area and smoky houses. 

]]> 2020-09-13 05:32:54 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741517632 emora221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741518453 Mr Wilson seems to fit in as he sells and buys used cars, and he also repairs them. He is middle class it seems, but when compared to tom is subservient and socially fits In. In contrast, Myrtle seems to be yearning for a more plentiful and glamorous lifestyle, unhappy with her current economic and social situation; however her husband and self doesn't provide for the lifestyle she wishes for. So economically they both fit in, but socially Myrtle seems not too. ]]> 2020-09-13 05:33:59 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741518453 emora221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741520930 Nick seems almost neutral in between groups and classes of people. He is connected to money and wealth, but will still find ways to interact with people who are not in his social class, and gets along with them. He is similar to the people in that he is typically the same socially, but not mentally and ethically. ]]> 2020-09-13 05:37:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741520930 emora221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741523633 Tom violently breaks Myrtle's nose after she repeatedly recited Daisy's name. This shows Tom as a self centered, power centric and driven person, assuming his domination over the other gender. It also shows signs of guilt and remorse towards Daisy, almost respecting her despite him cheating on her. ]]> 2020-09-13 05:40:56 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741523633 emora221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741525313 "'I want you to meet my girl.'... his determination to have my company bordered violence,"(24). This foreshadow's Tom's violent outbreak which shows more light on his relationship with Daisy, but also shows his arrogance and power driven, patriarchal standards towards all people, almost trying to show off his new 'girl'. It also shows the social dynamic as the wealthier have more power and say in even groups of people socializing with his demanding voice. ]]> 2020-09-13 05:43:05 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741525313 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741872689 2020-09-13 14:12:56 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/741872689 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742037928 2020-09-13 17:53:57 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742037928 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742052780 2020-09-13 18:11:28 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742052780 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742057061 Ben: Tom break her nose when Myrtle keeping shouting the name of daisy. Such a behavior reveal the abusive and the hot temper of him. ]]> 2020-09-13 18:16:25 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742057061 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742063959 2020-09-13 18:25:05 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742063959 aaguilar221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742333799 I interpreted the valley of ashes as some possible farm or lower class area of the town where all the poor live.  I also found it interesting how quick the description of it is since the rich wouldn't even take the time to consider it.  ]]> 2020-09-13 23:51:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742333799 aaguilar221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742336462 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle both seem to be a middle class couple who is incredibly unhappy with their situation. Mr. Wilson works at a run down garage in the valley of ashes and is constantly depressed, while Myrtle is a more extravagant woman she sees Mr. Wilson as unworthy of her and has an affair because of this. Mr. Wilson is miserable while Myrtle is incredibly selfish and egotistical. Both fit into the setting of the book perfectly and appear to be products of their time. ]]> 2020-09-13 23:54:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742336462 aaguilar221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742341854 Nick is probably one of the most true neutral characters I've ever come across in any sort of media. He simply seems to observe and little else. However I wouldn't consider him a good person since he let's people continue with actions ones would consider bad. So he is arguably just as bad as those he surrounds himself with. ]]> 2020-09-13 23:58:54 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742341854 aaguilar221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742347260 Tom breaks Myrtles nose by slapping her after she continued to mention Daisy over and over again. While this does show that he is abusive it also shows two other important things. He is very prone to anger and that he also feels some degree of shame for what he is doing. ]]> 2020-09-14 00:02:56 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742347260 aaguilar221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742351455 " I thought he knew something abut breeding, but he wasn't fit to lick my shoe." pg. 34. While this does show that Myrtle is unhappy with her marriage it also shows how selfish and egotistical she actually is. She seems to have an image of herself that she is entitled to better treatment or what she considers a better man. ]]> 2020-09-14 00:06:13 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742351455 cbarnett221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742523646 2020-09-14 01:38:16 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742523646 cbarnett221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742528757 2020-09-14 01:40:49 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742528757 cbarnett221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742534871 2020-09-14 01:43:48 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742534871 cbarnett221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742545319 2020-09-14 01:49:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742545319 cbarnett221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742550430
I thought this was important to what happened this chapter because of what was about to happen 3 pages later at the dinner table, we were really about to see the trouble between everyone at the table.]]> 2020-09-14 01:51:35 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742550430 crichardson222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742575019 I think that the valley of ashes is represented as the rotting of the american dream as a deeper meaning to it. otherwise it is just a place for the lower class people.]]> 2020-09-14 02:04:57 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742575019 crichardson222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742579248 I feel like mr. wilson fits into the setting because he spends a lot of time working but i feel that myrtle doesn't necessarily fit in because she spends a lot of her time at either parties or just wasting money elsewhere.]]> 2020-09-14 02:07:05 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742579248 crichardson222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742593059 In this chapter i kinda feel like he does whatever he is told to do. but then again he does not seem to be a good person.]]> 2020-09-14 02:14:35 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742593059 wwagnon22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742600088 The valley of ashes is a symbol of all that had to be burned or destroyed just so a choice few could sit and reap the benefits.]]> 2020-09-14 02:18:20 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742600088 wwagnon22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742602639 2020-09-14 02:19:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742602639 wwagnon22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742610176 Nick, in the first two chapters, tends to drift through life and his interactions with other people. They have little to no impact on his life, but on the other hand, he also doesn't put any effort in towards seeking meaningful relationships with anyone either. ]]> 2020-09-14 02:24:01 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742610176 wwagnon22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742615610 Tom lashes out towards myrtle after she tries to insert herself into the complicated nature of tom's life, the show how fearful tom truly is of upsetting the careful balance that he has between his two lives. ]]> 2020-09-14 02:26:48 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742615610 crichardson222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742673944 Tom had gotten angry with Myrtle and hit her accross the face and he ended up breaking her nose]]> 2020-09-14 02:59:25 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742673944 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742707278 The Valley of Ashes is an area near West Egg that is very industrial and this leads to the sky being drowned by black smog. This is very specific symbolism for the suffering of the lower class, those in the smog, to the rich people like Tom who enjoy the benefit of the smog, which is eccentric wealth ,while many struggle to maintain basic living standards.]]> 2020-09-14 03:19:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742707278 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742719955 Mr. Wilson is a very hard worker and also very depressed, so he fits into the melancholy setting. Myrtle doesn't care about the hard work her husband does, she just focuses on the negatives of her situation and this makes her shallow and alike to the shallow and snobby girls in the rest of the story.]]> 2020-09-14 03:27:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742719955 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742727266 Nick is the kind of person to have many acquantances, but not many close friends. Nick also does not see many people as worth his focus and time, but he all of a sudden sees Gatsby as a mysterious man that can make an impression on him.]]> 2020-09-14 03:32:35 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742727266 eliu222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742737788 Valley of ashes is a place that near West Egg. It represents the struggles that lower class has. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:39:52 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742737788 eliu222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742744056 Mr. Wilson works at a garage and he puts a lot of effort to improve life quality. Myrtle focuses on how her life is depressed. Hence they do not fit into the setting and Myrtle has an affair with Tom. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:44:02 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742744056 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742746573 Myrtle starts to try to get into Tom's life more than just a passing fling and she ends up getting hit in the face and breaks her nose.]]> 2020-09-14 03:45:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742746573 aray221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742749641 2020-09-14 03:47:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742749641 eliu222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742752103 Nick does not fit in his now living environment. He avoids being dragged into conflicts so he ignores some parts of the reality to give him enough space to settle himself. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:49:12 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742752103 aray221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742753093 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle are rich. That is the only way they fit into this book. Tom is sleeping with another woman, Myrtle is sleeping with Tom. The only thing they have in common is adultery.]]> 2020-09-14 03:49:55 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742753093 aray221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742756779 Tom breaks Myrtles nose out of anger from her saying Daisy's name over and over again. Even when Tom would talk to Daisy, you could tell he had always been aggressive. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:52:34 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742756779 eliu222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742762377 This movement shows that he is a very hot-tempered person who expects to control everything. He does not give enough respect to neither Daisy nor Myrtle. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:56:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742762377 eliu222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742766315 This quote describes the confusion and dear from dogs. They do not know what is happening but the unknown fears them. It could be reflecting people being confused but still try to blend into the groups. ]]> 2020-09-14 03:59:45 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742766315 aray221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742809732 Myrtle knew marring Mr. Wilson was a mistake. This chapter of the book reminds me of mistakes, and everyone makes mistakes. Nick getting drunk, Tom and Myrtle's marriages. You don't know you've made a mistake until after it's all said and done. ]]> 2020-09-14 04:28:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742809732 aray221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742820698 The "Valley of ashes" is somewhere w]]> 2020-09-14 04:34:32 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/742820698 cbrown2211 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743809971 Valley of ashes stands for people living in the lower class areas in New York, the name represents the despair and death brought upon the people and the area]]> 2020-09-14 13:25:59 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743809971 cbrown2211 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743820428 They do fit the setting, they are a poster board unhappy couple, with Mr.Wilson only caring about his work and Myrtle cheating on him with Tom. They fit the Valley of ashes stereotype quite well]]> 2020-09-14 13:28:13 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743820428 cbrown2211 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743831810 I don't think Nick is the same as the people he hangs out with, Nick is a very reserved and intellectual person and we have seen throughout these 2 chapters he is very quite when around others while Tom is very loud and aloof. Although I don't think as highly of him as I used to for going along with Tom and letting Daisy live in such a toxic and abusive household, although at the time there probably wasn't much he could have done to stop it.]]> 2020-09-14 13:30:25 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743831810 cbrown2211 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743842830 When Tom breaks Myrtles nose if shows us what we already thought to be true, he's an insecure brute of a man with major anger issues. I see this outburst as him losing control, he seems to be very controlling over the people in his life and when he feels that slipping he reacts violently to the situation]]> 2020-09-14 13:32:39 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743842830 cbrown2211 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743872120 "The only crazy I was was when I married him. I knew I had made a mistake." (35) This quote shows the true unhappiness felt by the Wilson couple, the despair of their relationship ties back to the despair presented to us by the Valley of Ashes]]> 2020-09-14 13:38:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/743872120 ehaghighi22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744152439 2020-09-14 14:33:44 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744152439 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744154547 It represents the the financial difference of the people who are under the higher class, and the higher class as the lower class and middle class are packed together under the east and west eggs in a city ash dump.]]> 2020-09-14 14:34:09 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744154547 sfox222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744156233 The valley of ashes represents the people living in the lower/ working class. It is a place between West Egg and New York that stands for poverty, destruction and death.]]> 2020-09-14 14:34:29 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744156233 ehaghighi22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744157612 2020-09-14 14:34:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744157612 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744165584 To me, they seem to fit into the setting by creating the mood for the scene of a terrible marriage, and an almost lifeless man being forced to work in a beat down garage doing shady work on the side. It is almost foreshadowing for the coming events (Tom getting dead drunk and clocking a woman) ]]> 2020-09-14 14:36:11 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744165584 ehaghighi22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744165762 2020-09-14 14:36:13 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744165762 sfox222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744171265 Myrtle doesn't enjoy being/ spending time with Mr. Wilson. They're a normal unhappy couple who's personalities clash. They are opposites of each other. ]]> 2020-09-14 14:37:17 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744171265 ehaghighi22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744173113 2020-09-14 14:37:38 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744173113 ehaghighi22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744182978 2020-09-14 14:39:30 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744182978 tjensa22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744208057 2020-09-14 14:44:10 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744208057 tjensa22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744217943 2020-09-14 14:46:03 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744217943 tjensa22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744227120 2020-09-14 14:47:48 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744227120 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744228282 It didn't seem like he fit in. He wasn't really a "party animal" like everyone else and was one of the first to leave. It was also his second time ever getting drunk.]]> 2020-09-14 14:48:01 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744228282 tjensa22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744229922 2020-09-14 14:48:20 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744229922 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744236809 Tom breaks Myrtle's nose and this shows the abusive behavior that was foreshadowed in the first chapter by calling him "hulking" and other word as such. The reason for hitting her however, was because Myrtle was talking about Daisy which makes me think that Tom has some sort of defensive emotions connected to Daisy, especially since she is so clueless, but more "pure".]]> 2020-09-14 14:49:42 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744236809 tjensa22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744238995 2020-09-14 14:50:07 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744238995 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744252502 "Neither of the can stand the other person" (Page, 33). This quote describes the unhappiness between the Wilson couple and the foreshadowing of Myrtle trying to marry Tom.]]> 2020-09-14 14:52:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744252502 mshpilenok22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744547085 The valley of ashes is a place between West and New York. All of New York's ashes ashes are brought to the valley. It represents the lower/working class of people. The financial difference between the upper and lower class is very vast. The upper class lives in thriving cities where the lower class lives in a ash dump.]]> 2020-09-14 15:44:28 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744547085 mshpilenok22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744561932 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle are not happy together. Myrtle doesn't like Mr. Wilson that much and is into Tom. The couple represents the place that they are in, they don't have any money.]]> 2020-09-14 15:47:57 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744561932 mshpilenok22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744568274 I felt like Nick wasn't too happy where he was. Nick doesn't like getting drunk or hanging out with those kind of partying groups of people. He is still very observant but awkward and not sure how to act.]]> 2020-09-14 15:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744568274 mshpilenok22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744571864 Tom broke Myrtle's nose because she was talking about Daisy. I feel like this shows that the upper class doesn't care that much for the lower class and there is no sympathy. Tom is easily provoked and is stubborn.]]> 2020-09-14 15:50:33 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744571864 mshpilenok22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744579406 Pg. 33- "Neither of them can stand the person they’re married to” 
This quote shows what kind of a relationship Tom, Dairy, Mr. Wilson and Myrtle have. They would rather be in love with other people but Tom stays with Dairy because she is catholic.

]]> 2020-09-14 15:52:28 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744579406 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744588938 The valley of ashes is between West and the city.  The ash of the industry of the area makes it smoke up and his covered in ash and gives it a dusty old and poor look.  The people of the valley are working class people who do not live at the same standard of life as we see the people in the eggs or in the city live to.  The contrast between rich and poor is very visible in the valley.]]> 2020-09-14 15:54:59 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744588938 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744604902 Nick felt quiet once people showed up.  He seems very similar to last chapter where he was just quiet not involved and watching. It seems like Nick is anti engagement because he refuses to interfere even if his morals are at question.]]> 2020-09-14 15:59:00 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744604902 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744606706 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle don't seem to fit together in the setting. Mr. Wilson is a poor working class man who fits perfectly in to the valley. His wife on the other hand, desires a life of riches and luxury and thus does not fit into the valley of the working class.]]> 2020-09-14 15:59:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744606706 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744611216 Myrtle saying Daisy's name provokes him to break her nose. This reveals how he really feels about his wife and reveals his true violent nature.]]> 2020-09-14 16:00:18 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744611216 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744611904 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle don't seem to fit together in the setting. Mr. Wilson is a poor working class man who fits perfectly in to the valley. His wife on the other hand, desires a life of riches and luxury and thus does not fit into the valley of the working class.]]> 2020-09-14 16:00:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744611904 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744615245 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle don't seem to fit together in the setting. Mr. Wilson is a poor working class man who fits perfectly in to the valley. His wife on the other hand, desires a life of riches and luxury and thus does not fit into the valley of the working class.]]> 2020-09-14 16:01:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744615245 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744615291 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle don't seem to fit together in the setting. Mr. Wilson is a poor working class man who fits perfectly in to the valley. His wife on the other hand, desires a life of riches and luxury and thus does not fit into the valley of the working class.]]> 2020-09-14 16:01:06 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744615291 slebo22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744626775 "Though I was curious to see her, I had no desire to meet her," (Fitzgerald, 24).

This quote to me shows a lot about Nicks's personality. This shows that he is a curious guy who wants to know, but at the same time his curiosity conflicts with his morals as he is clearly against Tom cheating on Daisy.]]> 2020-09-14 16:03:07 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/744626775 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746453776 Nick seems like a person who is morally repelled by the party, but he still cannot resist it, which shows his desire of the higher class life. Also, he witnessed Tom cheating on her wife without feeling any guilty.]]> 2020-09-15 02:47:39 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746453776 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746463013 The violent reveals Tom's lack of self-control and the unfairness in the society back to 1920s. Tom basically just utilised his social status and physical strength to maintain his power.]]> 2020-09-15 02:52:52 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746463013 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746482523 "This is a valley of ashes ----...through the powdery air(23)."
This quote introduced the context of the story and the poverty gap between high and low social classes through its environment.]]> 2020-09-15 03:03:48 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746482523 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746489634 They fit the setting, since Wilson works at the valley of ashes and his wife cheated on him. Myrtle has an affair with Tom just because of his money and power, which shows her desire to become a member of higher class.]]> 2020-09-15 03:07:58 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/746489634 kzhang221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/750984315 The Valley of Ashes is described as a desperate place where the workers are moving dimly, already crumbling in the powdery air who are just like the death. For them, their dream is dead, due to their birth and property.]]> 2020-09-16 09:42:10 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/750984315 kzhang221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/750996791 Mr Wilson and Myrtle do fit the setting in my point of view, it offers the different characteristics of people, Mr Wilson who is a person living in the valley of ash and does not seem to have any expectation toward being rich or nobility. Instead, his wife would prefer to become a higher class, and that’s the reason why she cheated on Mr Wilson and went together with Tom.

]]> 2020-09-16 09:52:40 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/750996791 kzhang221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751006446 Nick was different from people he spent time with, because he sort of refused to attend too many parties. He always doesn't drink as much as the others who hang out with him, and he does not really have a strong sense to be rich as others do.

]]> 2020-09-16 10:00:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751006446 kzhang221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751011725 Tom hit Myrtle in the face and broke his nose. Tom's actions show that he is an insulting and arrogant person. He thinks he can reasonably bully others because of his wealth.]]> 2020-09-16 10:04:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751011725 kzhang221 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751024233 “This is a Valley of Ashes—a fantastic farm where ashes grow like wheat into ridges and hills and grotesque gardens... which screens their obscure operations from your sight.” (Page 23)

]]> 2020-09-16 10:15:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/751024233 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771283464 Valley of ashes is a desolate place hide from  West egg and New York. It is a place full of ashes. Ashes are the representative of worthless, and abandoned things. People who work their are just like ashes, always live in the bottom of the social status, no hope, no dream and no chance to become rich. Valley of ashes reveals the huge comparison between rich and poor.]]> 2020-09-23 08:17:34 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771283464 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771312936 Mr. Wilson definitely cannot get along well with Mrs. Wilson. Mr. Wilson is a classic character of people who live in the valley of ashes, he has no power to against the rich and no money. Myrtle, instead, desire to become rich and own a better life in New York. So she choose to become Tom's women to enjoy the benefits Tom's money bring to her.]]> 2020-09-23 08:33:14 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771312936 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771318445 He acts like an outsider and just want to see how things go. But he has trouble of getting out of the stereotype when he get along with people surrounds him. He is different from others because he didn't involve into them much, but he is also similar to others, because he barely refuse and follows the crowd.]]> 2020-09-23 08:36:09 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771318445 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771333929 Tom breaks Myrtle's nose when she mentions daisy's name. Which reveals the burden between rich and poor. It is like although myrtle can get money from Tom, she has no rights to talk about people has the same social status as Tom. Moreover, it also reveals the empty inside of Tom, that he worries about the loss of power so he has to bully others physically to prove his superior social status.]]> 2020-09-23 08:44:59 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771333929 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771346491 "The little dog was sitting on the table looking with blind eyes through the smoke, and from time to time groaning fainty. People disappeared, reappeared, made plans to go somewhere, and then lost each other, searched for each other, found each other a few feet away. " (p40)
This quote is important because it reveals the mental state of people at that era. The little dog bought by money, and lost in the smoke of money. People try to find each other, make connections, but they can't. When they give up, loneliness gathered people together again. Very ironic.]]> 2020-09-23 08:52:02 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771346491 rjiang22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771627687 The valley of ashes is a place of desolation. Not the place itself is barren, its residents are also hopeless. People there work repeatedly everyday without the hope to ever meet the light of days. The valley of ashes is an epitome of the living condition of the bottom class in the early twentieth century. Tom and Nick's first visitation to this place is just a highlight to the disparity between the rich and poor. ]]> 2020-09-23 11:52:01 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771627687 rjiang22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771834976 Mr. Wilson is a typical working being living in the valley of ashes, he is almost a person who is destined to stay there. Whereas Ms. Wilson who is also in the same condition, she attempts to escape from it by having affair with Tom. To me they both fit into the setting; since they are both striving to live while the higher class people were exempted from this type of quandary. ]]> 2020-09-23 12:59:36 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771834976 rjiang22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771864783 For me Nick is special at least regarding to those people who he stayed with. Actually, he is not even form the some social class. He is conservative and also an outsider to those extarvagant party and those quick relationships.]]> 2020-09-23 13:06:50 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771864783 rjiang22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771931229 In the reading, it mentioned that Tom broke Myrtle nose just because she mentions Daisy. This coined out the disparity between people once again. Even when Myrtle is having a relationship with, due to their class difference, she is no more than a nobody to Tom. ]]> 2020-09-23 13:21:35 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/771931229 rjiang22 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/772119278 "Yet high over the city our line of yellow windows must have contributed their share of human secrecy to the casual watcher in the darkening streets, and I was him too, looking up and wondering. I was within and without, simultaneously enchanted and repelled by the inexhaustible variety of life." 
In this piece of description, Nick uses his first person experience to elaborate the entrancing nature of social jubilance at point. ]]> 2020-09-23 14:01:26 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/772119278 jliang222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778543250 The name "valley of ashes" is a literal discription of the place. In contrast to the wealthiness of East Egg where rich class inhabitats, the valley of ashes is filled with impoverishment with a messy looking. The place represents its residents that they are mostly poor working class who are conenitally destined to be poor due to the existance of severe social hierarchy of that time period. It is a place with desperation and extremely vague prospect.]]> 2020-09-25 07:16:24 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778543250 jliang222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778566811 Nick has conscience in contrast to the people he spends his time with. He reveals his unwillingness of staying with them by initiatively asking to depart. During the time when people are chatting, Nick did not participate much, instead, he is just looking at the vain flattering.]]> 2020-09-25 07:36:27 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778566811 jliang222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778623751 Mr. Wilson and Myrtle are couples. By common sense, they are supposed to love each other; however, Myrtle seems to have more enthusiasm for Tom than for her own husband, while Wilson has ignorance with the relationship between Tom and his own wife. Wilson is in working class and Myrtle regard him as the inferior relative to herself with his poverty and background.]]> 2020-09-25 08:26:25 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778623751 jliang222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778630516 Tom being provoked by Myrtle simply mentioning Daisy's name reveals his violent nature and his shame on himself for his behavior.]]> 2020-09-25 08:32:47 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778630516 jliang222 https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778642315 "'I wouldn't think of changing the light,' cried Mrs. McKee." (I do not have the page number since my version of the book is electronic.) Mrs. McKee proposed for a picture for Myrtle; however, refused to make the picture the best in quality. This reveals that Mrs. McKee is pure flattering, which hints the fact that under such social values that only care about wealth the relationships between people are fake and purposeful.]]> 2020-09-25 08:43:04 UTC https://padlet.com/sengberg/Gatsby2/wish/778642315