https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9 Comments, rules, observations, laws, things implemented en-us 2018-01-03 15:25:00 UTC 2018-01-25 17:47:18 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Dartstarget.png kendall_lin https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220022724 Ralph has been made into the “chief” of the boys stranded on the island. Jack- however close to Ralph he may appear to be- does not approve of this and yearns to be chief, attempting twice now to overthrow Ralph. In addition, it seems that though Piggy is the laughing stock of the group, he seems to be the brains behind the whole operation.]]> 2018-01-10 02:15:49 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220022724 kendall_lin https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220023624 The idea of getting work done is not working at all, even the older boys are still very young and don’t understand the gravity of the situation at hand. In addition, though Ralph seems to be a good leader, it seems his authority is beginning to fall apart]]> 2018-01-10 02:25:31 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220023624 kendall_lin https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220023923 Jack creates a group of his own, and becomes chief, however the way he rules and the way his tribe interacts differs greatly from that of Ralph’s. Ralph’s group was peaceful, and more of a democracy- exemplified by the fact that each boy in his group could claim the shell and speak his own opinions. Not as strictly run, Ralph attempted to assign his group to different tasks, but many would not completely follow through. Jack’s group from the beginning was very militaristic and fueled mostly by fear. When Jack manages to control his own group, he creates a hierarchy, and demands to be treated like a king. He hides behind a mask and kills human and animal alike without remorse. These two groups both are run on a basis of innocence and ignorance, yet they differ greatly]]> 2018-01-10 02:28:45 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220023923 kendall_lin https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220025055 To be perfectly honest, barely any of the ideas in this book seemed like good ones, especially because they led to a group of innocent boys becoming insane and turning into ignorant murderers. However, the one successful idea that drove a lot of conflict in this book, but also ended up saving the boys was the smoke signal. I may think of incorporating something like that into my society in order to let others that may be out there know there are other survivors. It could possibly backfire but🤷🏻‍♀️
In addition, i would incorporate something along the lines of the shell so everyone could get an equal chance to speak and be heard.]]> 2018-01-10 02:40:51 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/220025055 matthew_harbaugh https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217338  Early in the book, Ralph and Piggy find a conch shell on the beach and used it to call for others. This at first is a symbol of unity, which is vital in a government to be successful. The conch shell was used as a microphone both figuratively and literally, when at an assembly one has the floor when they are holding the conch shell. At the beginning of the book, when the "two tribes" had an assembly, Ralph and Jack both want to be the leader of the groups. Instead of other methods, the "two tribes" resort to the civilize method of a democracy in voting for a leader. Later in the book, we see that Jack's group, the hunters, are developing rebellious characteristics when they are starting to follow Jack rather than Ralph. 

]]> 2018-01-13 23:35:00 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217338 matthew_harbaugh https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217567 We see at the beginning of the book, an assembly to call an order was working, but this method is losing its grip of the kids when Jack is pulling them away from an assembly and instead to only listen to him rather than the "chief", Ralph. Lacking authority, Ralph is beginning to lose his role as "chief" and is not standing up to keep his role as the leader in which means that the assembly method is not working. Jack's hunting group is working in the way they are gathering food.

]]> 2018-01-13 23:43:55 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217567 matthew_harbaugh https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217967 Later in the book, we see two tribes separated and not working together. One, Ralph's tribe, is still sticking to more of a democracy rule of law, but the other, Jack's tribe, is turning into a dictatorship where Jack is the leader and you are either with him or you are his enemy. 

]]> 2018-01-14 00:00:05 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221217967 matthew_harbaugh https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221218019 There are not many ideas that I would consider in using in my society. One idea that I would consider in using would be having some sort of an assembly. I believe that this makes every action and decision fair and clear to a group. The last idea that I would consider would be implementing a squad or group to perform certain tasks such as hunting or building shelters. These would be the only ideas that I would consider using from the book, Lord of the Flies. 

]]> 2018-01-14 00:03:01 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221218019 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221844642 The boys make their own system of keeping order after they crash land on the island through an assembly an a system for calling meetings and who speaks and who is their leader]]> 2018-01-16 19:04:12 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221844642 daniel_ross1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221844662 In the early chapters of the book two early leaders emerge. Ralph and Jack both try to lead the group however Ralph is the chosen leader of the group. He implements many rules, the most important of which is the person with the conch. However not everyone listens to the rules which leads to arguments and tension between characters. Other characters abide by these rules such as piggy and the "littluns"]]> 2018-01-16 19:04:15 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221844662 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221845078 It seemed to work to assign the hunters to keep the fire going so a passing ship or plane could see it but they chose to hunt over keeping the fire going and neglected that responsibility in the process.]]> 2018-01-16 19:05:07 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221845078 george_strachan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221845539 2018-01-16 19:06:02 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221845539 michael_difelice https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846289 they seem to have one set leader for the group, but have it so that everyone has a say in whatever matter they are talking about. everyone has a job and if they do not complete their job they then are supposed to be held accountable ]]> 2018-01-16 19:07:37 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846289 carley_brosovich https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846312 The children stuck on the island vote Ralph as the chief or leader. However, as the book progresses Jack desires more power as things aren't being done his way and creates a great divide between him and Ralph. All in all, I think the "Chief" thing was a good idea, but it is crashing down and failing.]]> 2018-01-16 19:07:40 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846312 george_strachan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846583 Ralph's idea of the new society kind of parallels communism in that everyone gets assigned a role to play in the greater society ]]> 2018-01-16 19:08:14 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221846583 brenden_wood https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847176 They seemed to still have humanity within themselves to the point where they know what is right and wrong. ]]> 2018-01-16 19:09:33 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847176 marcus_perotti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847464 While the group of hunters have become wild untamed savages at the moment in the book who don't care about anything else, I think it's important to establish that group. To have people who are designated to go out and get the food while the others focus on other things like shelter. Now that I'm realizing it I'd say I'm more interested in keeping the organization of the group, not just the hunters per say.]]> 2018-01-16 19:10:11 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847464 justin_nam https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847562 The boys made roles for the group like being chief, hunters, etc. They also had gathering assemblies, conch lets you talk, and tending the fire is main priority. ]]> 2018-01-16 19:10:23 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221847562 brenden_wood https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848020 The leadership among the group of boys seemed to work for awhile as well as their goals for a short time. The idea of whoever holds the conch may speak did not last for long, and responsibilities of certain members did not work out efficiently. ]]> 2018-01-16 19:11:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848020 michael_difelice https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848145 what seems to be working now is the group of hunters that jack forms. they finally caught a pig a can now have a stable food source. also, the assemblies work in the sens that everyone shows up and contributes, but when it comes down to actually acting on the topics discussed, the group falls short. they also constantly fail at keeping the fire going and building the shelters which are two of the most important things. ]]> 2018-01-16 19:11:31 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848145 justin_nam https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848767 The roles that were originally implemented seemed to work partially. Ralph being a leader acted like one, but didn´t necessarily work out. Jack and his hunters hunted for pigs, but did not tend the fire. In general, things only worked to a certain extent- not completely. ]]> 2018-01-16 19:12:38 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221848767 carley_brosovich https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221849295 In order to create some order when it comes to talking at assemblies, you must be holding the shell in order to be permitted to talk.]]> 2018-01-16 19:13:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221849295 michael_mcgrath2 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221852757 Ralph was voted as leader and he insists on the good of the group while Jack, leader of the hunters, insists on hunting. They use a conch shell to call assemblies and require that in order to talk at the assemblies, you must be holding the conch shell. Also, they designate the rocks to be where the signal fire is located and that there must be two people actively watching the fire at all times.]]> 2018-01-16 19:20:03 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221852757 michael_mcgrath2 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221853159 Jack continually using the threat of the beast worked in getting people to join his side. Creating a separate group of hunters didn't seem to work because they became engulfed in hunting and became obsessed with it. The conch shell worked in that it grabbed everyone's attention and was a symbol of authority.]]> 2018-01-16 19:21:03 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221853159 scott_hall1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221923124 In the book when Ralph finds the Conch he blows into causing boys to come out and find him and Piggy. But one individual that heard the Conch was Jack. When everyone is around they all agree that there should be a chief or someone in charge, and they take a vote between Ralph and Jack, Ralph wins. Jack and the Choirboys are put in charge of hunting, and one rule that is put into place is, you are only able to speak if you are holding the Conch. ]]> 2018-01-17 00:43:14 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221923124 scott_hall1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221923923 Even though Ralph has set up rules to keep there society somewhat organized, kids fail to abide by them resulting in drama among the boys. The rule with kids having to hold the Conch for them to talk doesn't last very long, also some of the kids don't do there assigned jobs making Ralph upset. ]]> 2018-01-17 00:51:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221923923 anthony_vinciguerra https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221943652 In Chapters 1-6 the boys stuck on the island choose a leader for the group. They also divide people and assign them to specific tasks to do, such as hunting. Also, while on the island they all realize that the main goal is to be rescued so the attempted to start a signal fire from the top of the mountain.]]> 2018-01-17 03:53:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/221943652 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223506580 As time passed through the island, the kids started becoming more and more like animals, specifically Jack's tribe. The boys separated because of the different views for a society. The group started not caring for what is truly needed, and instead just for the lust of killing pigs. Also, Jack's tribe implied that they 'killed' to solve problems. ]]> 2018-01-22 19:07:50 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223506580 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223509237 A dividing line between the group because of views is something I would like to implement to my own society. I like the idea of dividing power between individuals and want they want in their society. For example, Jack's group were intended for hunting and only hunting. While Ralph's group were trying to keep the society balanced and same as their old life. ]]> 2018-01-22 19:12:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223509237 justin_nam https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223513339 As time passed through the island, the kids started becoming more and more like animals, specifically Jack's tribe. The boys separated because of the different views for a society. The group started not caring for what is truly needed, and instead just for the lust of killing pigs. Also, Jack's tribe implied that they 'killed' to solve problems.  ]]> 2018-01-22 19:18:55 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223513339 justin_nam https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223513821 A dividing line between the group because of views is something I would like to implement to my own society. I like the idea of dividing power between individuals and want they want in their society. For example, Jack's group were intended for hunting and only hunting. While Ralph's group were trying to keep the society balanced and same as their old life. ]]> 2018-01-22 19:19:49 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223513821 daniel_ross1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604105 There were many ideas the kids wanted to implement in their society. The most important of which is rules, Ralph who is elected leader comes up with rules you would see in common societies. However Jack who on the inside believes he should be chief disagrees with the way Ralph goes about leading. In the beginning these laws worked, but as tensions grew higher and higher, with no real way to enforce these rules things devolve into anarchy. ]]> 2018-01-23 00:49:45 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604105 daniel_ross1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604156 In the second half of the story, we truly start to see the devolution of the boys and their previous beliefs of society. Jack turns into a savage human being, concerned more with violence than survival. Many people leave Ralph's tribe for the dictatorship of Jacks tribe. The group is split and aggressive showing true human greed and hatred.]]> 2018-01-23 00:50:08 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604156 daniel_ross1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604244 I like the idea of anyone being able to talk as long as it is their turn. Although Piggy was turned away multiple times from the conch he could still use his voice, which i value as an important rule. However more than one person should be leading the group to avoid jealousy and total separation.]]> 2018-01-23 00:50:38 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223604244 anthony_vinciguerra https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223947267 The conch shell was used as a symbol to bring everyone together and it worked effectively. However, the signal fire to get them off of the island did not work because nobody tended to ti.]]> 2018-01-23 18:47:34 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223947267 scott_hall1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223947700 At this point in the book, order in the society is starting to go to crap. jack is starting to win over the boys in the society. Also Jack is turning into a savage. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:48:15 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223947700 brianna_spadel https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948461 In chapter 1-6 the boys on the island elect Ralph as their leader. Ralph then proceeds to put laws and rules in place in efforts to keep order between the boys because there are no adults to do so.]]> 2018-01-23 18:49:20 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948461 shawn_mcpoyle https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948476 Later in the book the rules and system of governing themselves that they devised starts to break down and they divide into several groups.]]> 2018-01-23 18:49:22 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948476 rachel_johnson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948575 2018-01-23 18:49:31 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948575 michael_difelice https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948635 they break up into two groups, one that still has rules and is civilized while the other is more savage . jacks group seems to only care about hunting and does not care about being rescued. he is obsessed with the hunt and with power while ralph still wants order and to be rescued ]]> 2018-01-23 18:49:36 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948635 marcus_perotti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948899 While it wasn't implemented correctly here, I think it was a good idea to just separate the kids into groups who all have responsibilities like the hunters]]> 2018-01-23 18:49:58 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223948899 kschwerzler https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949030 The first law that was created was that only the boy holding the conch could speak. They created this law and may more to try and keep order throughout the group; to try and keep everyone under control. however while the boys were on the island their whole goal was to be rescued.]]> 2018-01-23 18:50:10 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949030 owen_mcnamara https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949866 only the person with the conch shell could speak, ralph would be leader, and they would focus on getting rescued. They also broke up into hunters and non-hunters]]> 2018-01-23 18:51:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949866 shawn_mcpoyle https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949870 In lord of the flies most of the power was divided between people who had extremely different views on topics instead of one ideology of sorts holding all the power]]> 2018-01-23 18:51:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223949870 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950304 2018-01-23 18:52:05 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950304 brenden_wood https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950307 The children had split up into two groups, one which is civilized with rules and still follows the laws of humanity. While the other group doesn't follow any rules or laws, instead they only listen to their leader "Jack", while acting like savages and wild animals]]> 2018-01-23 18:52:05 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950307 carley_brosovich https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950339 Jack challenges Ralph's power and ends up splitting the boys into two groups. One group, Jack's, begin to act like savages and wild animals. The other group, Ralph's, continue to act like normal, civalized people until they are attacked by the other group.]]> 2018-01-23 18:52:08 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950339 michael_mcgrath2 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950433 Ralph's group and Jack's group of hunters split. Ralph's group is civilized and works for the good of the society. They believe in having rules and authority. Jack's group is savage and completely uncivilized. They have lost their sense of their previous societies values. They have no rules and live for the hunt]]> 2018-01-23 18:52:17 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950433 marcus_perotti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950472 Not a lot ended up working in this book but I think the use of the conch to summon people for the meetings worked well.]]> 2018-01-23 18:52:21 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950472 sophia_falciani https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950553 The Lord of the Flies, things that worked seemed to be getting certain boys on the island compared to others, so convincing certain people. The litluns hung around Ralph and Piggy because they felt more safe than Jack and the rest of the shells. What didn't work was the conch in my opinion because the boys still said what they wanted whenever they wanted, so it didn't work. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:52:30 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950553 marcus_perotti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950873 The whole group lost respect for their elected leader Ralph and did whatever they wanted.]]> 2018-01-23 18:53:01 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223950873 marcus_perotti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951216 Separating the people into groups responsible for certain things like hunters foragers etc.]]> 2018-01-23 18:53:33 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951216 michael_difelice https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951326 having different positions for people in the group is extremely helpful. since everyone knows what theyre doing it should help them as a group survive more efficiently until they are rescued. being organized and knowing your job is very important to survival]]> 2018-01-23 18:53:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951326 kschwerzler https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951417 Just because Ralph implemented rules, does not mean that the rules were followed. the conch rule where only the boy holding the conch doesnt last long at all, resulting in fighting among the boys.]]> 2018-01-23 18:53:50 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951417 gabbymercanti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951576 2018-01-23 18:54:04 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951576 brenden_wood https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951634 I will use the opposite of what they used it since their leadership/government style failed. The person with all the materials/food seemed to have the power over others. Developing a system which has division of power among others will create resolution if a conflict were to arise.]]> 2018-01-23 18:54:08 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951634 owen_mcnamara https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951896 Using the shell to call everybody worked however the fire didn't work and neither did catching a pig until later in the book]]> 2018-01-23 18:54:37 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951896 carley_brosovich https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951959 Although I believe a democracy is important when it comes to making sure everyone gets heard, I thoroughly believe that there should be a group of people who hold important information in order to maintain social and mental stability. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:54:43 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223951959 gabbymercanti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953204 2018-01-23 18:56:48 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953204 owen_mcnamara https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953241 some of the childeren stopped listening to the conch shell to call a meeting. and the hunters vs non-hunters ended up becoming 2 seperate groups led by jack and ralph. The children simply lost their sense of humanity]]> 2018-01-23 18:56:51 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953241 kyle_caruthers https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953516 From the very beginning of Lord of the Flies rules are one of the first thoughts when it comes down to just Ralph and Piggy. To almost all the boys it seems right, until Jack constantly takes violent turns when it comes to practically anything. The second the hunters begin, the line begins to blur between power and rules as a whole.]]> 2018-01-23 18:57:20 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953516 kschwerzler https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953748 people begin to challenge ralphs power resulting in fighting among the boys about who they should actually listen to ]]> 2018-01-23 18:57:40 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223953748 owen_mcnamara https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223954203 I think that regular meetings with the society are a good idea because they keep everyone unified and on the same page (at least they try to) this didnt really work out too well in the book]]> 2018-01-23 18:58:21 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223954203 sophia_falciani https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223954411 Rules implemented were keeping people doing work that would sustain survival, such as keeping shelters up to date and the hunters working on meat, and keeping the fire going to have a signal to passing ships and people. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:58:40 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223954411 kschwerzler https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955475 i think that if one person holds the power then that can result in controversy therefore there should be multiple people in charge, much like a democracy. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:59:31 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955475 gabbymercanti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955528 People follow Jack now do to his savage ways, they crave the power to hunt and kill and that is what jack provides a lawless society. Unlike Ralph's which maintained its aspects of human civilization]]> 2018-01-23 18:59:34 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955528 scott_hall1 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955739 Some of the ideas I will use, will be the fact that they elect one person Chief or put one person in charge of everyone else. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:59:51 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955739 sarah_baldwin3 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955853 In the beginning, the children seem to try and emulate the society they knew from before by electing a leader assigning jobs to everyone. ]]> 2018-01-23 18:59:57 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223955853 brianna_spadel https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956419 In chapters 1-6 the boys on the island elect Ralph to be their leader, which immediately creates tension between him and jack. Ralph then proceeds to put laws in rules into place in the efforts of keeping order between the boys. Many of the laws were followed but the rules and jobs implemented were not. Many of the boys avoided many of their responsibilities and duties like creating shelter and keeping the fire going.]]> 2018-01-23 19:00:47 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956419 gabbymercanti https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956712 2018-01-23 19:01:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956712 sophia_falciani https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956743 Observations that changed from the beginning was the way their society was structured. Both Jack and Ralph started their own groups by the end instead of how they were together in the beginning.]]> 2018-01-23 19:01:15 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223956743 michael_mcgrath2 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223957113 For my society I would consider using something similar to the conch to serve as something that will maintain order. ]]> 2018-01-23 19:01:50 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223957113 kyle_caruthers https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958135 The conch shell basically implied power, and did work well on its own with everyone. The roles did not work too well though, specifically those who had to watch the fire.]]> 2018-01-23 19:03:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958135 sarah_baldwin3 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958350 The conch seemed to work really well at first because it called the kids and kept everyone from talking over each other. The meetings didn't seem to work because they made a lot of empty promises.]]> 2018-01-23 19:03:50 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958350 sophia_falciani https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958742 I would consider using some kind of leader because it keeps authority going in the society. Though it did not work well in the book, that was because there were too many people with big personalties. ]]> 2018-01-23 19:04:28 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223958742 brianna_spadel https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223959117 The conch shell has a consistent and actual effect to the boys throughout the whole book. They respected what it meant when one was holding it and listened to what they had to say. All the rules and laws put in place by Ralph had no meaning to most of the boys by the end of chapter 6. Many of the boys were more concerned with their own needs and wants to focus on following rules and doing their jobs]]> 2018-01-23 19:05:10 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223959117 kyle_caruthers https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223959235 They should have definitely tried to fix things when Jack and Ralph endured a troubled relationship, because the root of the main issue was the separation of groups. Also Piggy did not deserve the harsh treatment :(]]> 2018-01-23 19:05:25 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223959235 kyle_caruthers https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223960427 The conch and idea of giving every single person a time to speak their mind and focus on them is definitely an important idea that I think should be implemented in our society.]]> 2018-01-23 19:07:18 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223960427 brianna_spadel https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223960761 There are now two groups, jacks and Ralph’s, which are run on different morals and laws. Jacks group are an inhuman group of kids who focus Moreno on their list for hindering rather on building shelter and trying to be rescued. Ralph’s groups just wants to be rescued and to have peace between the groups through rules and laws Ralph implemented in the first place. ]]> 2018-01-23 19:07:52 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223960761 brianna_spadel https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223962593 Laws and rules are always great to have especially beacuase they create order in the society, but sometimes too many rules can be a bad thing. When you are on an island as a kid with no adult supervision resirtucing your fun and exploration of the island will create an issue. You need to let people have that freedom at first and explore and let them realize that their only was to survive and be rescued is to have laws and rules implemented. You can’t force this idea on them, it has to be one you come together on. ]]> 2018-01-23 19:10:04 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/223962593 john_mcgowan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224070383 I was impressed that the kids were able to come up with the idea of splitting up into groups to perform specific tasks. Ralph led the group in building shelter, while Jack led his group in hunting.]]> 2018-01-24 02:46:23 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224070383 john_mcgowan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224072867 The use of the conch worked very well with the kids to hold meetings. The fire didn't work because nobody kept it going.]]> 2018-01-24 03:06:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224072867 john_mcgowan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224074167 The boys seem to split into two separate groups. Ralph leads the civilized group, while Jack leads the savage group.]]> 2018-01-24 03:17:49 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224074167 john_mcgowan https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224074391 I would definitely like to use something like the conch in my society. It seems like an entertaining and effective way to hold meetings.]]> 2018-01-24 03:19:47 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224074391 anthony_vinciguerra https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224758111 The group or society they created was not getting along as planned, therefore, they split into separate groups led by Ralph and Jack. Also, many of the boys lost their humanity and began acting like wild savages.]]> 2018-01-25 17:09:20 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224758111 anthony_vinciguerra https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224761631 An idea from Lord of the Flies that I could use for my own society would be how they split the boys up to do different tasks. This would be like assigning someone an job to complete in order for the community to thrive.]]> 2018-01-25 17:15:24 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224761631 rachel_johnson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224776311 I found it very outstanding how young kids, the oldest being 13, we’re able to come up with a system of laws and rules to follow and a way of survival. The way Ralph was in charge and coming up with all of the rules was impressive. ]]> 2018-01-25 17:41:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224776311 rachel_johnson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224777027 One thing that stuck out to me that dude not work very well was the fire. Although it did bring a boat to the rescue it also managed to spread over the island a take the life of a the boy with the birthmark. Something that did work was when Piggy suggested he use a conk shell to call the boys and they came. ]]> 2018-01-25 17:42:59 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224777027 rachel_johnson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224778079 The way this seems is that the boys managed to split into almost two groups. With the leaders being Jack and Ralph. They each had their own views on how things should have been played out Andrew what should happen but they disagreed with eachother  ]]> 2018-01-25 17:45:01 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224778079 rachel_johnson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224778672 One thing that I may use for my own society is assigning certain people and groups of people to certain tasks. If each person or group is assigned to something they would like doing then everything would get done and hopefully people would be happy. ]]> 2018-01-25 17:46:14 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod9/wish/224778672