Remake of Themes in "Oedipus Rex" by Prof. Feindert https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj Include short summaries, paraphrases, and specific quotes that support one of the themes listed. The goal is to have a good collection of specific details and quotes that we have found together. en-us 2022-02-23 17:59:26 UTC 2022-02-24 19:49:54 UTC hello@padlet.com Symbol feindek https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065200300 Crossroads - O has choices, kills father]]> 2022-02-24 19:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065200300 99711921 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065204613 O argues with Teiresias who refuses to outright tell him that he fulfilled the prophecy]]> 2022-02-24 19:27:48 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065204613 personal sacrifices are necessary for leaders so long as the population is safe https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208494 2022-02-24 19:30:17 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208494 O, when speaking to elderly peasants to verify how he was adopted https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208943 He treated the elderly peasant ruthlessly, likely placing blame on him to avoid having to face his fate-determined role in his actions. The peasants unwillingness only strengthened his pride as a king.]]> 2022-02-24 19:30:34 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208943 Portraying theme https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208975 Oedipus sleeps with his mother. Oedipus's father also tries to kill Oedipus]]> 2022-02-24 19:30:36 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065208975 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065209363 Through the years Oedipus was with his family, not once did they ever even mention these prophecies of ill fate to one another until the events of "Oedipus Rex" takes place, which contributes to the immense amount of tension and drama.]]> 2022-02-24 19:30:52 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065209363 tiresias is the one able to see ahead as a prophet and knows the truth meanwhile everyone else does not https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065209903 2022-02-24 19:31:15 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065209903 It is ironic that Tiresia was blind, yet she was the one who showed the truth to Oedipus who was in denial of the prophecy. Oedipus stabs his eyes so he ends up blind once he knows of the truth. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210168 2022-02-24 19:31:27 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210168 Oedipus parents abandoned him due to a prophecy https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210186 2022-02-24 19:31:27 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210186 irony https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210355 Oedipus insulted Teiresias' blindness, but he ended up blinding himself at the end of the play]]> 2022-02-24 19:31:35 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210355 Free will VS Fate https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210676 Throughout play, the Chorus mentions names of gods and ties them into the situations therefore showing how much of a role they play into determination of the outcomes of one's fate. This shows how there was a great reliance on appeasement of the gods and how one felt as though this would determine their fate.]]> 2022-02-24 19:31:49 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210676 Oedipus and Jocasta have their prophecies/ version of the killing of King mixed up (Oedipus thought it was himself while Jocasta/ the witness + the rest of Thebes thought it was a gang of people who killed the King) https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210725 2022-02-24 19:31:50 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065210725 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065211429 When Oedipus could see, he was blind to the truth, but when he learns the truth, he becomes blind]]> 2022-02-24 19:32:12 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065211429 The gouging of the eyes after finding his mother/wife committed suicide. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065211974 His determination to blind himself so he would not see his incest born daughters and feel the guilt more than he already had was the epitome of shame.]]> 2022-02-24 19:32:32 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065211974 Jocasta https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212093 Jocasta feels shame for marrying her son (and perhaps for trying to kill him as a child), so she kills herself]]> 2022-02-24 19:32:37 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212093 Lines 81-82 feindek https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212209 I would surely be an evil man not to do/whatever the god reveals. 
Previous lines: my soul groans for the city

]]> 2022-02-24 19:32:40 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212209 He is ashamed that he had married his mother and has had kids with her, so he blinds himself. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212936 2022-02-24 19:33:09 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065212936 99711921 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065213314 O saves Thebes originally and seems to be a hero, but he causes the plague

]]> 2022-02-24 19:33:23 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065213314 Once Oedipus realizes that he has fulfilled his prophecy, he blinds himself so that he never has to see the tragedy that is his life https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065213777 2022-02-24 19:33:40 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065213777 Lines 103-104 feindek https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065214883 O: I consider their pain more important even than that of my own soul.]]> 2022-02-24 19:34:18 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065214883 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065215055 When learning of the death of Oedipus's adoptive father, both he and Jocasta were overjoyed with his death due to their fear of the prophecies coming true. Their morals and rational emotions taken over by the fear of their own demise and wrongdoings.]]> 2022-02-24 19:34:25 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065215055 Fear https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216086 The queen did not know that her husband was actually her child, but when she made the connection she tried to convince Oedipus to stop teaching for the truth. Realizing he was going to find out, she could not bear the chaos of the aftermath and took her own life, hiding from the truth.]]> 2022-02-24 19:34:55 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216086 His Mothers Determination to hide the truth from O that he did in fact kill his father by attempting to convince him fate is meaningless https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216109 This is a strong indication of a dysfunctional family. His mother was hiding the truth, both from her son/husband and from herself due to the tragedy it would bring their family.]]> 2022-02-24 19:34:56 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216109 Fate and Free Will https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216314 "And what in her makes you so fearful? Stranger, a dreadful prophecy sent from the God" (lines 1177-1179).]]> 2022-02-24 19:35:05 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216314 Oedipus must find Thebes murderer but the reality of it is that oedipus is the murderer himself https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216566 2022-02-24 19:35:17 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065216566 Oedipus killed his father, married his mother, and slept with his mother. His parents sent him away as a baby too. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065217028 2022-02-24 19:35:38 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065217028 Lack of Trust feindek https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218051 O fears that Creon (at this point his brother in law) is secretly trying to get the throne and oust O]]> 2022-02-24 19:36:17 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218051 Oedipus cannot believe that he had married his mother and killed his father, so he tried to accuse the prophet of treason. He believed that they were conspiring against him for the throne. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218839 2022-02-24 19:36:50 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218839 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218901 Oedipus was so caught up in his rise to power and in his ambition to prevent the prophecies that cursed him that his paranoia gets the better of him. To an extent of narcissism, Oedipus thinks highly of himself, and deems anyone critical of him an enemy instantly.]]> 2022-02-24 19:36:53 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065218901 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065220547 Oedipus wouldn't accept any criticism like when the prophet tells him he's the source of the problem. Instead of trying to figure out the problem, he ends up condemning the Tiresias]]> 2022-02-24 19:38:03 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065220547 Blaming Creon https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065220958 Jumps to blaming Creon for being a traitor before he fathoms considering that he himself may be the killer. Refuses to believe that Teiresias’s prophecy might be true. Immediately jumps to usurping of his power as the rationale for betrayal.]]> 2022-02-24 19:38:19 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065220958 Oedipus' pride https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221130 Oedipus refuses to listen to Teiresias when he tells him that Oedipus is the cause of the plague]]> 2022-02-24 19:38:27 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221130 O and Creon's discussion after discovering the truth about his fate and gouging out his eyes. https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221654 During this moment, O is determined to see himself as a truly irredeemable person, having committed many vile acts. Creon comforts his brother, neither hating nor shaming O, but instead offering sympathy and empathy. Creon recognized this was O's fate but not what he would have chosen had his fate not been determined.]]> 2022-02-24 19:38:48 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221654 Ignorance https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221886 Because Oedipus becomes so eager to know the truth about his life and then when he does he is unable to accept his fate and blinds himself, we can see that he and Jocasta rather have not known about their realities. Similar to Oedipus Jocasta is unable to accept the truth and kills herself. This may show that they rather have lived their lives ignorantly without knowing. ]]> 2022-02-24 19:38:57 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065221886 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222027 Oedipus as a baby looked innocent and harmless, so the decision to save him in his pure age seemed good. Yet it was a baby that was prophesized to kill a his own father and commit incest.]]> 2022-02-24 19:39:02 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222027 "For heaven's sake, if you care for your own life, Don't seek it" -Jocasta https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222345 This shows how Jocasta did not want Oedipus to find out about their true relationship as it would be damaging to their reputation. ]]> 2022-02-24 19:39:15 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222345 Family Relationships and Fate https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222450 "OEDIPUS: No, no. It’s public knowledge. Loxias17 once said it was my fate that I would marry my own mother and shed my father’s blood with my own hands. That’s why, many years ago, I left my home in Corinth. Things turned out well, but nonetheless, it gives the sweetest joy to look into the eyes of one’s own parents. MESSENGER: And because you were afraid of her you stayed away from Corinth? OEDIPUS: And because I did not want to be my father’s killer" (lines 1182-1191). ]]> 2022-02-24 19:39:20 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222450 Lines 1004-1006 feindek https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222897 J: Why should a person fear when the ways of fortune / are supreme, when there is no clear foresight?/ It is best to live at random]]> 2022-02-24 19:39:39 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065222897 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065223221 How Oedipus was the one that solved the riddle before to save his kingdom, but in reality he was unable to solve the riddle of his own life, according to the Prophet. ]]> 2022-02-24 19:39:51 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065223221 Oedipus marrying Jocasta https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065224993 Seen by all as a good thing, but it’s actually incest.]]> 2022-02-24 19:41:01 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065224993 Oedipus speaking to the priest in the first scene, addressing how well he rules Thebes cayla_d2163 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226090 “What feeling brings you to me—fear or desire? You can be confident that I will help.
I shall assist you willingly in every way.
I would be a hard-hearted man indeed,
if I did not pity suppliants like these.” (11-15)
]]> 2022-02-24 19:41:46 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226090 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226391 The prophecies had only determined outcomes and results, but rarely all of how they could occur. It's possible that there is Free Will in the process and build up to a fated event or action foretold by prophecy. The personalities of characters in different situations could be altered to lure them to the final inevitable action or fate.]]> 2022-02-24 19:41:57 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226391 Ignorance https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226649 2022-02-24 19:42:08 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065226649 https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065237628 Though a king, O's fate was enslaved to that of his people benefit.]]> 2022-02-24 19:49:54 UTC https://padlet.com/feindek/r9ck9yq0cworo8sj/wish/2065237628