https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz Chapters 9-12 en-us 2021-11-08 15:35:14 UTC 2025-10-11 18:56:44 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f9df-2642.png https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875470583 2021-11-08 15:38:06 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875470583 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875470749 Irony plays a huge role, as Victor is so miserable with himself and his creation that he considers ending his own life. This is ironic because just a few years earlier he had craved to create life from the dead, but this ability has made him so depressed he no longer wants to be alive. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:09 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875470749 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471250 Victor compares the monster to the devil and the monster threatens to send Victor to hell if he does not listen to his story.]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471250 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471299 It's interesting how Victor's perception of nature differs from his creation's perception of it. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471299 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471313 I thought it was interested when the creature acted on his longing for love and appreciation by trying to help people who are struggling with poverty. Because he doesn’t have this sort of interaction in his life, he is trying to create that for other people. This changes the mood of the story because the audience can see the true nature of the creature’s heart instead of his murderous actions from the being of the story. It provides a sense of compassion for the creature because he is acting out of love even though Victor gave him no fatherly love after his creation. 

]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:18 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471313 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471601 “Remember that I am thy creature; I ought to be thy Adam, but I am rather the fallen angel.” Shelley (through the creature) is implying that Victor is playing god by his manipulation of life and death. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:24 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875471601 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472070 2021-11-08 15:38:33 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472070 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472430 Essentially the story is being told to us by Walton, who was told by Frankenstein, who was told by his creation. It is like a game of telephone but with an entire novel.]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:40 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472430 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472492 Because so many life changing events have happened in such a short period of time she is losing faith in humanity rapidly. In regard to the human circumstance she does not see any good in men. Elizabeth views men as evil now and that is not a positive aspect because she is married to Victor who is the cause of all this. It is ironic because the one man she thinks she knows the best is responsible for her distrust in humanity. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875472492 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875473034 I think it is interesting how such a progressive women creates the women in the book as if they can't do anything and are weak and frail. She highlights them as what men would say all they can do is cook and clean.]]> 2021-11-08 15:38:50 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875473034 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875473786 we see the humanlike emotions and thoughts behind the creature when he observes the cottagers]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:03 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875473786 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875474381 we learn about how the creature survived and lived on his own, even though he never really talked to or interacted with the people ]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875474381 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875474411 I thought the romanticism period was prevalent through the importance of nature on Victor's mood.]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875474411 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475140 2021-11-08 15:39:28 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475140 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475496 I noticed a parallel between Victor's desire for knowledge and the creature's desire to learn how to speak/read.]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475496 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475512 There is a parallel between how Victor’s parents neglected him as a child and now how he is treating his creation. In a way the creature is his child. It was not a good idea for Victor to react scared and ashamed of his creation right when it became conscious. Because now as long as Victor wants to kill the creature, the creature will continue to destroy Victor’s happiness. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:34 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875475512 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476196 His creation is just trying to navigate life, but he can essentially be compared to a lost child having no guidance or idea what to do next. The creation isn't all evil like Victor thinks, he has emotions and feelings deep down.]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:46 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476196 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476624 2021-11-08 15:39:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476624 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476639 I find it really interesting how when the monster sees the family he thinks they are living in luxury and have all these nice things, when in reality they are very poor. I feel like this shows a lot about how in society we place value on things with high monetary involvement and the monster who has never been a part of society sees things like happiness and community as luxuries instead.]]> 2021-11-08 15:39:54 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875476639 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477155  “the sight of awful and majestic nature had indeed always the effect of solemnizing my mind.” highlights the duality of nature 

“the valley assumed more magnificent and astonishing character” ]]> 2021-11-08 15:40:04 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477155 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477779 An interesting part of the story was when the creature was talking to Victor about his life experiences. I thought it was cool to see the compassion in the heart of the creature and how he only murdered the boy in order to gain Victor's attention. It's an extreme action, but it shows how desperate the creature is for Victor to step in as his father. It also exposes the trauma the creator has from Victor's abandonment. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:40:15 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477779 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477910 Debate on whether Victor the monster's creator influenced it's traits or it's environment created it's characteristics. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:40:17 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875477910 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875479285 2021-11-08 15:40:42 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875479285 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875481706 seems to represent the creation, it is present when he creates him, then the next time Frankenstein sees him it is because he is illuminated by lightning, then the next time Frankenstein talks to him there is a thunderstorm roaring.]]> 2021-11-08 15:41:26 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875481706 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875481792 2021-11-08 15:41:27 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875481792 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875482751 I really related to Victor in the sense that he needed to seek out nature in our to sooth his soul from depression. Sometimes I find that taking a walk outside or going somewhere to enjoy nature will calm my nerves and provide me with a sense of hope for the world. ]]> 2021-11-08 15:41:41 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875482751 https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875495548 The creature is not a mindless being that attacks without reason.  Instead he is able to recognize his emotions and channel the anger that he feels from abandonment into something "productive" (no matter how bad it is).  The feeling of vengeance is also mirrored in Victor as something intrinsic to human nature.  Both characters have the capacity for good, but choose revenge.  That agency shows how the creatures monstrous behavior is actually what makes him human.  ]]> 2021-11-08 15:45:29 UTC https://padlet.com/ktschuster/r8zjm074a9gj46fz/wish/1875495548