https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak Please write your reaction to the video. If you have a judgment, please phrase it as a question. en-us 2021-03-05 17:29:46 UTC 2021-03-26 16:31:18 UTC hello@padlet.com whwhitaker2022 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496129 The hyper traditional gender roles in Pakistan are a large cause of honor  killings, and I think these gender roles are the true underlying problem. While it would be shocking for the roles to be changed, in this situation it prevents death, so it may be worth it.
Also, why didn't the family leave Pakistan? It seems like that would be a better solution than hiding.]]> 2021-03-12 13:49:45 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496129 vmmills2021 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496192 Compared to the U.S., their government lacks democracy. It is concerning that the people of a country can't have a voice. Yes, there is gender inequality, but men are also being oppressed. Why haven't other countries taken action in demolishing the Pakistan government? How has the pandemic affected the people of Pakistan.]]> 2021-03-12 13:49:46 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496192 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496197 I think that the video was sad.  It was very sad to hear that in certain parts of Pakistan women are basically invisible. ]]> 2021-03-12 13:49:46 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496197 crpucci20211 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496641 I thought it was just completely shocking that families are able to choose to kill their own family members and do. In most families, they never want anything to happen to each other. It is interesting to be able to contrast the meaning of family in different cultures.]]> 2021-03-12 13:49:54 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302496641 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498006 i thought the video was very eye opening. These girls were just clapping and ]]> 2021-03-12 13:50:14 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498006 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498059 I thought that what did was very extreme. considering the women in the videos were just clapping. It is also interesting how the police have no involvement with it. I think that an outside authority needs to step in and not allow this to happen.]]> 2021-03-12 13:50:15 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498059 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498625 I didn’t know that things like this were happening and it is really unfortunate for all the people involved in it. It is also interesting how the law is barely involved at all. ]]> 2021-03-12 13:50:23 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498625 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498886 It's just really interesting to see how different cultures do things in general. I find it interesting as well how gender roles are so different there than in the United States. I'm hoping they will get demolished and people can live in peace. ]]> 2021-03-12 13:50:27 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302498886 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302501773 The video was sad and it is unfortunate that these rules are unlikely to change in the near future. I think that the amount of fear that people have right now when it comes to being an activist is too great to get enough people to make a difference ]]> 2021-03-12 13:51:10 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302501773 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302501940 Its not really my job to judge other cultures, but death in general is too far.  This was kind of wild from start to finish, it looked like a innocent, but i guess they were disrespecting there family. ]]> 2021-03-12 13:51:12 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1302501940 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303702764 I found it very shocking that families would be willing to kill their own family. This is surprising because families usually love everyone no matter what they do. I respect their culture but I believe that killing is too harsh. I also found it interesting that women are treated ]]> 2021-03-12 18:08:29 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303702764 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303702782 I feel out of place judging a culture for their beliefs because our culture here may be completely unique compared to other places. Ignoring the cultural part, this is beyond disturbing. Its scary to even imagine living under these conditions when you don't even have a right to expressing yourself or freedom. Its sad to think people would choose death over being in the living conditions ]]> 2021-03-12 18:08:30 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303702782 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703005 I found it shocking that families had the ability to kill another family member, I didn't think that anyone would ever want a family member to die never mind killing their own family members. I find it interesting that this is considered normal in other cultures. ]]> 2021-03-12 18:08:32 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703005 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703240 I think that this just shows how different the cultures are around the world. The main problem here is that honor killing is literally killing your family members for them doing something you disagree with. My only question is that is every single person in a family able to do this to each other?]]> 2021-03-12 18:08:36 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703240 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703310 I thought the video of the girls clapping while the boys were dancing seemed extremely innocent and I cannot believe that death was the consequence of it going public. The tribal leader was going to great lengths to cover up the murder of these girls. He definitely knew it was wrong if he was trying that hard to pretend it didn't happen. If he knows it is wrong then why is this a normal part of the culture? I hope that some things have changed within the past few years so that this is not as common as it was up to 2012. ]]> 2021-03-12 18:08:37 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303703310 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303709547 i find the tradition pretty disturbing and how people from their own family has to kill a family. I know its frowned upon to judge other religouns and cultures but its just crazy to how its your own family and it doesnt bring a concern to anyone in the community. ]]> 2021-03-12 18:09:58 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303709547 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303710269 I thought was crazy that people would be willing to kill there own family members]]> 2021-03-12 18:10:08 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303710269 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303712529 The video was disturbing and feel bad for the family that has had to flee their home. I wonder how far the leader is willing to go to protect this way of life. He clearly knows that the western world thinks what they do is wrong as he lied to the vice interviewers.  ]]> 2021-03-12 18:10:35 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303712529 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303738664 I think this is the same struggle between new vs. old.
Just like how older adults complain about the “kids these days” doing this and that and claiming “back in my day” everything was that much better, here the traditions pull people towards honor killings as “back in [their] day” people were somehow better.
This is probably a societal advantage especially for early humans.  Older people will pass on traditions as they worked (got them to adulthood) thus a change could or would endanger the future of their society...]]> 2021-03-12 18:16:05 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1303738664 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315334557 I think that what happened in the video is awful. I think that there should certainly be laws stopping situations like this however I understand that it may be hard to put them in place because of religion and the traditions that have existed for so long. I think that people who feel as if they are in danger should be given protection, whether that be by the government of Pakistan or another country. I don't think it is ok that people are commiting murder and getting away with it without justice.]]> 2021-03-16 12:49:52 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315334557 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315336120 It's obvious that there is a big difference between the cultures in the US and in Pakistan. In a place where religious tradition is a huge part of their culture, it feels weird to judge them. However, the video of the women and the men was not what I would have expected to lead to all of their deaths. The inequality of women in Pakistan is what I think creates these traditions which is a problem. Not only are these killings the problem, but so are their every day lives. Women have to cover everything on their bodies except for their eyes or they fear their lives, while men can walk around without worry. Hopefully in the future these killings will be brought to life without other harmless religious traditions having to be changed in Pakistan.]]> 2021-03-16 12:50:10 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315336120 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315337748 I honestly can't believe that it's still socially acceptable in some countries to treat women like this. Obviously every culture and country around the world is different and should be respected, but I think there should be a line drawn at some point. This treatment of women is so dated that it's so hard for me to believe that this all happened within the past ten years. I think there should be major change in that country when it comes to how they treat their women, because it's the twenty-first century. I think the change has to come with getting justice for these girls and making people see why their deaths were unjust.]]> 2021-03-16 12:50:28 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315337748 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315338607 I found it interesting to see how different cultures differ when it comes to gender roles, law, family, etc. I was also surprised at how little the police are involved in general and I wonder if this is their choice or if they are forced to stay out of these types of cases due to religion. ]]> 2021-03-16 12:50:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315338607 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315339686 I think it is crazy how different Pakistan and the United States is. I think most people living in the US would think this story is crazy and irrational, but in reality this is "traditional", and the norm in Pakistan. I hope that in the near future the people of Pakistan can take a stand and end this.]]> 2021-03-16 12:50:51 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315339686 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315340839 I was very shocked that such an extreme consequence came from such an innocent looking video. The girls clapping seemed to be doing no harm and their own family going out of their way to take their lives is crazy to me. It was also surprising how far the man in the last interview was willing to go to cover up these deaths.]]> 2021-03-16 12:51:05 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315340839 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315341369 I was very surprised to find out that their tradition is to kill one of their own family members if they dishonored the family. I personally believe that this is too far of a punishment and that there should be an alternative way to treat these situations with the police and government more involved. ]]> 2021-03-16 12:51:11 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315341369 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315342975 You can make change by actually prosecuting these people and actually policing these villages. It seems like the government has done a week job of this and has basically left their citizens to figure it out for themselves which is not the way it should be. The world decides what is right and wrong. I understand that it is a cultural thing for them but plenty of cultural traditions have changed with modern society. We are constantly changing as a race and tradition is not an excuse]]> 2021-03-16 12:51:32 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315342975 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315344935 I found it shocking the influence that tradition had over this society. The combination of the lack of education and weak government allowing these honor killings is a tragedy and should never happen. I was also shocked at the willingness of family members to torture and kill someone they felt had dishonored them, and how strong this concept must be in their society.]]> 2021-03-16 12:51:57 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315344935 malkurdi2022 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315346933 what happened in the this video is awful and super sad the fact you kill if your different blood the us culture is super different, it was so uncessary. just sad that this case is still going now ]]> 2021-03-16 12:52:21 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315346933 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315349511 I was shocked that people could kill other family members for bringing shame to their family and not be put in jail or punished in another way just because of a tradition. ]]> 2021-03-16 12:52:52 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315349511 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315353710 I think that the video was very disturbing and I found it horrible how people will go as far as to kill their own family to keep their honor. I don't really understand how what they were doing was dishonoring the family and I don't agree with it and I think that what they did was unjust and evil.]]> 2021-03-16 12:53:38 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1315353710 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316865099 I never knew this was going on until I watched the video. In our culture in the US, we see this as brutal and an awful way to live. Whereas in Pakistan, this is normal and part of their culture. I do feel that this could be changed with law and the video of the girls clapping is a good example of why it should be changed. I feel as if nothing wrongful was being done because they were covered up and just clapping. It is crazy to me how much the man in the interview was attempting to cover up and justify these killings when many thought they were inhumane.]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:14 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316865099 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316866473 I find it interesting how strongly culture/tradition can be for certain groups of people. I feel like most cultures don't take their traditions or even religions down to the law. But instead just come down to expectations. For example; in other cultures maybe it's expected for someone to do something. But, in this video it seems like something that would be expected in another culture, is the law in this one. ]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:28 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316866473 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867136 I didn't think they should go to an extent as of killing, personally I saw no harm in the clapping. I also found it interesting that how easy you can kill someone due to "dishonoring" the family, but this girl really didn't dishonor the family, even the family didn't think so that she dishonored them and I really think that they have that much of a power of killing someone over a really small thing.]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:35 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867136 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867707 I think that it's a little extreme to be killed if you make a mistake and "bring dishonor" to your family. I think that it's a very old way of thinking and that culture should try and adapt to and adjust to what happens in the rest of the world. In the US if you make a mistake it's ok, your family will forgive you. Just because someone clapped their hands doesn't mean they should die. I think it's wrong and I think it's too extreme. ]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:41 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867707 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867796 I found this video to be highly disturbing in very many aspects. The complete contrast between rural Pakistan's culture and the culture of the United States is clear as day as I could never imagine anything like this happening where the killers could just walk away without punishment. Using tradition and culture as an excuse to absolve the victims family of guilt is something that I hope will be changed in Pakistan's court as the country goes into the future.]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:42 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316867796 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316868743 I think change has to be made by having more strict laws and a stronger police force. At the moment it appears as if the police due nothing, and it is mostly decided between the citizens, which is not the way it works in any other part of the world. If the police and government were to step up and make regulations, everyone would know exactly what is legal and what is not. This would avoid all of the debates and people trying to get justice. Although this may seem like a tradition, it must be changed. The world is constantly changing and evolving, so the traditions must change with the times.]]> 2021-03-16 17:07:52 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316868743 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316871697 As Americans I think it is hard to grasp the horrible  idea that people would kill their own family members just for doing something as innocent as clapping for a few boys dancing. From an outsiders perspective it feels blatantly obvious that this action is wrong and needs to be stopped. However, in a place like Pakistan I can imagine it is really hard to create change when the traditions are so deeply rooted, and the individuals who are supposed to protect citizens may agree with the traditions as well. 

]]> 2021-03-16 17:08:22 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316871697 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316874622 I think that it is quite shocking that family members can kill another family member or members due to them bring dishonor. I think the way that dishonor is define among their cultural is also very interesting and because even by just clapping along and singing with these men both the women and men were killed.]]> 2021-03-16 17:08:54 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316874622 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316875516 I think that even though this is apart of a tradition, I don't think murder should be allowed what so ever. I think the only way this is going to be fixed or stopped is if there are strong laws put in place that have punishments so people follow them. I think it would be difficult to have enough people to stand up to this, which is why I don't think this will go away anytime soon.]]> 2021-03-16 17:09:03 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316875516 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316876949 killing your own family members is definitely out of a social norm. Its crazy to think about how different the US is from Pakistan and even other countries as well. the reason the girls were killed was very non logical and they werent causing any harm]]> 2021-03-16 17:09:17 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316876949 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316892277 I find it crazy that there are people/cultures out in the world that still live like this. Where women are so oppressed and attacked that they try and just stay inside and keep to themselves. It’s also crazy that for people in the US murder is completely illegal and absolutely frowned upon while in Pakistan it is completely normal. To us this seems completely wrong but to many people in Pakistan this is ok and I feel it’s just about our culture and how we are raised. They probably think that it’s wrong that women have a position of power here while we think it is normal and that just goes to show that traditions and culture are super important to people and how they are raised]]> 2021-03-16 17:11:53 UTC https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1316892277 https://padlet.com/mlohan1/r7vgtvwc2c71zmak/wish/1329562551 I understand this is a cultural thing but this definitely needs to be stopped. It shouldn't even be called Honor Killings this is just plain murder. After watching this it makes me feel awful for these women and I am very thankful to live in America. Clearly one of the highest unmet needs in Pakistan is quality family planning services. Gender equality needs to be fixed with laws in place and I think other countries like the US can help their voice be heard. 

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