Criterion A by Hamed Mokhtar https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6 Criterion A en-us 2016-11-09 19:24:50 UTC 2023-04-05 07:16:26 UTC hello@padlet.com Katrijn - 12 pages or less? katrijn_ganne https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504021 I don't think students would be penalised when their IA exceeds 12 pages. I use it more as a guideline for students who are tempted to 'overcomplicate' things. Having said that ... I wouldn't 'allow' my students to hand in an IA of more than 15 pages...But that's me ofcourse!
Well said Ktrijn (HM)]]> 2016-11-23 03:21:43 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504021 Katrijn - Introduction vs rational katrijn_ganne https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504195
The rationale should be part of your introduction, it clarifies why a student chose this topic. It should show some interest in the topic. 

The introduction is broader, should contain a decent plan for the IA, what is the student going to investigate, how, what calculations etc...

]]> 2016-11-23 03:26:03 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504195 Katrijn - Organised but no coherence? katrijn_ganne https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504322 I personally don't think an IA can be organised without the student showing coherence. By organisation I understand that the structure of the IA needs to make sense. Students need to know what they are doing in order for their IA to have those logical steps. Organisation doesn't mean ' having an table of content' or neat titles. The way they work through their 'problem' in a logical way. ]]> 2016-11-23 03:28:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504322 Katrijn - Complete exploration? katrijn_ganne https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504551 In order for the exploration to be complete I need to see an aim (what?), the actual maths (how?) and a conclusion (reflect?! What did you found out?)]]> 2016-11-23 03:32:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139504551 Martin- Concise martin_mcmulkin https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510308 'Around' 12 pages and try to avoid repetitive processes. Many of the examples we get from the IB seem to be much longer though. ]]> 2016-11-23 05:38:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510308 Martin- Coherence martin_mcmulkin https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510440 There must be connections between the sections of the work. It is clear what is being done and why, things do not just 'appear' in the work. Maybe the 'flow' of the work? The guide says 'logically developed']]> 2016-11-23 05:40:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510440 Martin- Complete martin_mcmulkin https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510530 For a 3: coherent and well-organized but not concise or complete (therefore has a conclusion but maybe does not meet the aim?).
For a 4: coherent, well-organized, aim met (therefore complete?) plus concise]]> 2016-11-23 05:43:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510530 Martin- Organized martin_mcmulkin https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510584 Diagrams, Calculations, Graphs, Tables placed in the appropriate places? But this aspect could be coherence. Contains aim, rationale and conclusion, also an 'introduction', but I am unsure what the IB consider to be an introduction?]]> 2016-11-23 05:44:24 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139510584 Troy- Introduction vs Rationale: troy_droubay https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139681994 The introduction talks about what the paper will entail. It tells what the student plans to address in the paper. The rationale addresses the importance of the topic from the student's perspective.]]> 2016-11-24 01:43:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139681994 Troy- Organized and Coherent: troy_droubay https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139683162 I think a paper can be organized but not necessarily coherent. The paper can be well laid out with an introduction, body and conclusion but still be hard to follow.]]> 2016-11-24 01:57:31 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139683162 hamed_mokhtar https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139699253 Thx KatrinjI think too that it is fair enough to say that the introduction can include:
The reason for personal engagement, the aim of the exploration, the plan of the exploration,..
And in the conclusion it is important to refer back to the aim.
(HM)]]> 2016-11-24 07:08:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139699253 Quinn - Are candidates penalised if they exceed the 12-page recommended limit? quinn_velasco https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139787216 Based on FAQ in OCC: "6–12 pages should be appropriate... However, it is recognized that some explorations will require the use of several diagrams, which may extend them beyond the page limit."
Thus, I think students are not penalised. ]]> 2016-11-24 16:12:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139787216 Quinn - Coherent quinn_velasco https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139788832 A coherent paper is logically organized and easy to follow/understand. So what I do is I ask my students to do peer review so that they can verify if their paper is coherent in their classmate's perspective. ]]> 2016-11-24 16:26:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139788832 Martin martin_mcmulkin https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139828587 Quinn I use the peer review system . The only weakness with this I find is that the students are way too generous about each others work and they openly admit this! ]]> 2016-11-25 01:08:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139828587 Hamed hamed_mokhtar https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139851021 Surprisingly, my students are way to harsh when I give them a marking exercise of explorations !]]> 2016-11-25 08:20:10 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139851021 Urszula - page limit urszula_bednarska_l2 https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139962795 At the beginning most of my students think they will never be able to write 12 pages, later they have problem with fitting within that limit. I do not allow them to write longer, let's face it if you cannot close a topic in 12 pages there is something wrong with the topic chosen (it is too broad) or you are not concise (brief but comprehensive).]]> 2016-11-26 11:26:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139962795 Urszula - intro vs. rationale urszula_bednarska_l2 https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139963488 Introduction is about the topic in general, whereas rationale is about why this topic is important and was chosen. Still some of my students have problems with separating them.]]> 2016-11-26 11:44:10 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139963488 Urszula - coherent, organized and complete urszula_bednarska_l2 https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139963578 I think every work that student write (not only in IB) should have all these features. It is important to have an aim and stick to it. As long as they remember about this everything will be OK. :)]]> 2016-11-26 11:46:44 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139963578 Marjon https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983444 I tell my student to find a critical friend. That already implicates they can expect critique. ]]> 2016-11-26 19:16:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983444 Marjon Introduction https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983685 The introduction is often the first chapter. That contains the rationale and the aim. In the rationale the personal engagement plays an important role.]]> 2016-11-26 19:21:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983685 Marjon https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983877 The start of being organized is a title, content, page numbers and using the same font and letter size throughout the paper. The chapters (sections) show the coherence.]]> 2016-11-26 19:26:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139983877 Marjon- 12 pages https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139984411 I do not penalize for more than 12 pages. Most of the time that is because of tables, diagrams, pictures and formulas. ]]> 2016-11-26 19:39:18 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/139984411 Page Limit - George https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140006307 I use the 12 page limit as a guideline. Students do ask how long should my exploration be. Sometimes graphs and tables make an exploration seem longer. As long as an exploration does not get bogged down in repeat calculations, I would not penalise. You need to be able to address your aim in an efficient manner and how many pages this will take  will vary depending on the problem. However, conciseness is one of the descriptors used in criteria A, so repeat or long winded calculations would be penalised.]]> 2016-11-27 09:38:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140006307 Introduction - George https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140006780 My understanding is that the introduction contains an outline of what you will do and how. Within the introduction you can have the rationale, they don't have to be separate. The rationale is why you are doing this...it does move into the sphere of personal engagement also.]]> 2016-11-27 09:48:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140006780 Ju-Hee https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140195555 1) Are candidates penalised if they exceed the 12-page recommended limit? 
o   It wont be penalised. (I would rather ask students to count words - recommend to provide concise expression)
 
2) What is the difference between an introduction and a rationale? 
o   Introduction: discuss the context of the exploration
o   Rationale: an explanation of why a student chose the topic
 
3) Can an exploration be well organised and have no coherence? 
o   I don't think so. A coherent exploration is logically developed and easy to follow. Well-organised needs to be along with coherence.
 
4) What defines a complete exploration? 
o   All steps are clearly explained without detracting from its conciseness.
]]> 2016-11-28 15:02:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140195555 Adam-Page limit https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140334380 I don't think students should be directly penalised for exceeding 12 pages (contrast the EE where the assessment criteria specifically indicate which marks are withheld if the essay is too long). However often the page limit is exceeded because the student repeats themselves or includes needless detail. In that case it's unlikely to qualify as "concise".]]> 2016-11-28 20:35:11 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140334380 Adam - Coherence vs organization https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140336046 I think coherence is about the "local" meaningfulness of what the student writes i.e. do their individual sentences convey meaning? (An 'incoherent' exploration would be incomprehensible.) Organization is about meaning on a larger scale i.e. are ideas communicated in a meaningful order so that the development can be seen? The criteria imply that you can't have organization without coherence which I think ties in with this.]]> 2016-11-28 20:41:40 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140336046 Adam - Concise and complete https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140337002 Both these words appear at once in the very top band of criterion A. I think the idea here is to evaluate whether the scope of the exploration was sensibly chosen so that everything which "should" be part of it is included. For example I once had a student submit an exploration which consisted of disconnected facts about the number e. Although his ideas were well organised I don't think his exploration could ever have counted as complete with that topic!]]> 2016-11-28 20:45:17 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140337002 Anam-Criterion A anam_manzoor https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140426339 -Students should not be penalized for exceeding 12 pages if and only if there are no unnecessary details or descriptions that could have been otherwise easily avoided or if the student has been aimlessly writing without being focused on the main aim  of the exploration.In other words it should be concise and it can exceed 12 pages but still be concise depending on the topic and the approach taken by the student
-An introduction is where you discuss the context of the exploration whereas rationale is where the student needs to give an explanation behind choice of topic 
-A coherent exploration is the one logically developed and an organized exploration would be the one with proper introduction, rationale, aim, body , conclusion.So yes, i feel an exploration can be organized yet difficult to follow logically and hence not coherent.
-A complete exploration is one in which all steps are clearly explained without detracting from its conciseness]]> 2016-11-29 08:51:03 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140426339 Wael - Complete exploration https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140684518 -aim 
-Significance of the topic
-Introduction
-Body (Math processing)
-Conclusion
-Link to other topics and discussing limitations]]> 2016-11-29 22:48:45 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140684518 Paul - Criterion A paul_press https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140735057 The criterion itself expands on some of these definitions in the text above the descriptors. For example, it defines a  well-organized exploration as on that "includes an introduction, has a rationale (which includes explaining why this topic was chosen), describes the aim of the exploration and has a conclusion." Does that mean an exploration that doesn't include all of these is disorganized or do we adopt the spirit of the statement? Or does that relate to completeness?
Within that statement above, the rationale is defined.  To me, this is more personal than the introduction, and can help towards the personal engagement Criterion (although not exclusively contribute to it).  The introduction provides the mathematical background and is therefore more factual.
According to the text, a "coherent exploration is logically developed and easy to follow". This does not imply complete, but that the writing flows in a logical manner.]]> 2016-11-30 08:46:41 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/140735057 Quinn quinn_velasco https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/142528695 Martin, we use this guideline to help the students to be more objective or critical when reviewing. Its not mine though, i got it from an online source before but I can't cite it now as i think it was deleted already. ]]> 2016-12-08 13:18:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hamed_mokhtar/r12e2d4pfkg6/wish/142528695