https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5 Symbols within Romeo and Juliet and Pyramus and Thisbe en-us 2017-12-08 18:08:16 UTC 2023-02-18 13:02:08 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Balance.png kayla_wienbeck https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214601668 The Wall and the Montagues and Capulets
The wall and the families are connected because the wall acts as the families of Montague and Capulet. In Romeo and Juliet, their parents/ family separate them and their love. In Romeo and Juliet, a family feud between the Montagues and the Capulets forbid any type of interaction between each other. "The quarrel is between our master and us their men."- Romeo and Juliet (1.1.17)  Romeo and Juliet meet and are forced to keep their love a secret, since both families are filled with hatred for each other. In Pyramus and Thisbe, their parents disapproved of any love between the two. However, a chink in the wall allowed Pyramus and Thisbe to communicate and grow their relationship. The chink in the wall symbolizes the parents of Pyramus and Thisbe. "They longed to marry, but their family forbade" Pyramus and Thisbe (Ovid 947.)]]> 2017-12-08 18:22:35 UTC https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214601668 athaila_iemsisanith https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214603686 The Cloak and the Potion

Misconception of the facts is one concept that is reflective in "Pyramus and Thisbe" and Romeo and Juliet  The cloak in Pyramus and Thisbe relates to the potion used in Romeo and Juliet because both of them were huge factors resulting in the deaths of the main characters. When Thisbe saw the lioness she ran away but dropped her cloak behind her, and the lioness tore it up.  When Pyramus arrived a little later, he saw the torn cloak on the ground, mistaking it as the remains of his lover. Moments later, Pyramus stabbed himself to death so that he could be with Thisbe, not knowing that she was alive. This eventually led up to Thisbe stabbing herself as well, so that they could be together. This is similar to what happened in Romeo and Juliet. In (4.1.90-120), Friar Lawrence explains how the potion will work. The potion was primarily being used to fake Juliet's death and was supposed to last for 48 hours, so that she did not have to marry Paris the next morning. Friar Lawrence sent a letter to Romeo explaining the scheme, but it did not reach Romeo. Everyone thought that Juliet was dead, and it was part of the plan, but soon enough the word got around to Romeo. Romeo was devastated and planned to kill himself in the tomb that Juliet was asleep in. When Romeo got to the tomb, the potion had not worn off of Juliet yet, and he thought that she was actually dead, so he killed himself. Shortly after he died, Juliet woke up and saw that Romeo was dead, so she committed suicide. As you can see, both of the stories have a similar storyline, but the cloak and the potion are both misconceptions that led to tragedies.

]]> 2017-12-08 18:27:31 UTC https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214603686 dabbse3 https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214603839 The Gods in the story "Pyramus and Thisbe" and the prince of Verona from the story of Romeo and Juliet are alike because they both mourned the death of the two lovers and they are both in a way "all-powerful" in the two stories. The Prince in Romeo and Juliet says, "A glooming peace this morning with it brings. The sun for sorrow will not show his head. Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things; some shall be pardoned, and some punished; For never was a story of more woe than this of Juliet and her Romeo" (5.3.305-310). The statement "glooming peace" speaks for the people of Verona and for the personal feelings of the prince over the death of the children from both of the families. In the story Pyramus and Thisbe the Gods became sad that the two lovers met there demise. "Pyramus and Thisbe" reads, "The gods were pitiful at the end, and the lovers' parents too" (949). The story says the gods had pity on the two lovers meaning the gods were mourning their death. In both stories a seemingly all powerful being felt for the misfortune of the two lovers. The pity that the prince and the gods have on the lovers don't have a immediate effect on the story but it gives a sad tone to both stories that makes the reader feel for the lovers. ]]> 2017-12-08 18:27:54 UTC https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214603839 matthew_staten https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214606909 Communication

The couples' plan to meet in Pyramus and Thisbe, and Friar's plan to reunite Romeo and Juliet are similar in many ways. Both of the plans in the end failed resulting in the death of the lovers'. On page 948, Pyramus says "It is I who killed you" without knowing what happened he killed himself. Since the two didn't communicate well enough so they jumped to conclusions and killed themselves. In Romeo and Juliet the Friar planned to get Romeo and Juliet back together after he was banished. A man says to Romeo (5.1.18) "Her body sleeps in Capulets Monument..." Romeo got false information about Juliet's death. When the Friars note never got to Romeo so he thought Juliet was actually dead. In the end Romeo killed himself which caused Juliet to kill herself as well.]]> 2017-12-08 18:35:53 UTC https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214606909 taraedouglas123 https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214611043 The Mulberry Tree and the Feud
The mulberry tree and the feud connect, because the berries on the mulberry tree change from white to red, relating to the death of "Pyramus and Thisbe," and at the end of Romeo and Juliet, the feud ends between the two families after Romeo and Juliet die. Ovid writes, "The gods were pitiful at the end, and the lovers' parents too. The deep red fruit of the mulberry is the everlasting memorial of these true lovers, and one urn holds the ashes of the two whom not even death could part" (949). This tells us that after the death of Pyramus and Thisbe, their parents become upset, because of their forbiddance of the couple's love. The prologue from Romeo and Juliet says, "doth with their death bury their parents' strife," and that suggests that it took the death of the couples to make their families come together as one.]]> 2017-12-08 18:46:51 UTC https://padlet.com/matthew_staten/qv1vf4dlcub5/wish/214611043