https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie Determine the Secretary (who will write your consensus response in the padlet) and your Foreman (spokesperson for your group). In your groups, read and review “Evidence A” - “Evidence E”. Once completed synthesize an answer to the age old question “what really happened that night?”. In order to successfully navigate this assignment you must reach a consensus (agreement). Share your response with the class utilizing at least 2 pieces of text evidence to support your position (in the padlet). We will also discuss. Each group must have a secretary and a foreman and their response must be submitted via this padlet. en-us 2017-10-11 12:52:02 UTC 2021-03-04 23:39:01 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/2696.png cvalledor https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/195993507 1) What is your group's consensus (agreement)? Is she guilty or innocent?   
2) Two pieces of textual evidence to support your findings.  
3) Explain how the evidence proves your point.]]> 2017-10-11 12:57:51 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/195993507 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1233645251 1) Lizzie Borden is guilty for the murder of her father and her stepmother.

2) "I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. I can hear that from my room if anyone is careless and slams the door." (Source C)
""The only persons-living persons-in the house were Miss Lizzie and Mrs. Churchill, in the back entry, near the kitchen....Glanced about the room and saw there was nothing disturbed; neither the furniture nor anything at all." (Source D).

3) According to the testimony of Churchill and Dr. Bowen, no one else (living) was present in the house and if a intruder came, Churchill would've known so it is a inside job. Additionally, the doctor mentions that nothing in the house was disarranged so if a intruder did come, there would have been a scuffle at least between the victims and the intruder but that was not the case. It was someone the father and the stepmom trusted hence proving that Lizzie and even the Maid possibly had a hand in it.

 

]]> 2021-02-23 20:34:30 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1233645251 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1239090955 1) I think Lizzie is innocent due to all the evidence we have collected from the sources.
2) "I had not seen Lizzie at all, from the time of my arrival on Wednesday, until I returned to the house on Thursday, after the murders." (Source A)
"Saw a medium-sized young man of very pale complexion, with his eyes fixed on the side-walk. He was passing slowly towards the south. He was paler than common, and acting strangely." (Source B).
4) She was not home according to the sources when the murder had occurred and in Source B, Benjamin Handy saw a strange man around the Borden house which might have been the murderer.]]> 2021-02-25 01:32:43 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1239090955 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1242085968 1) I believe Lizzie Is guilty for the murder of her dad and step mother. 
2) "Saw a lady come out the way from the barn right to the stairs back of the house, the north side stairs. She had on a dark-colored dress. Nothing on her head. Was walking very slow." (source E) 
" I don't think I went to sleep at all. I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. I can hear that from my room if anyone is careless and slams the door. The next thing was that Miss Lizzie hollered, "Maggie, come down!" I said, "What is the matter?" She says, "Come down quick; Father's dead; somebody came in and killed him." This might be ten or fifteen minutes after the clock struck eleven, as far as I can judge." (source c)
3) this demonstrates how Lizzie was the only person downstairs with her parents when this took place. As soon as Maggie went upstairs that when she heard Lizzie scream that her father was killed. Which shows how Lizzie had time to leave the house quietly and go into the barn to get the ax and come back into the house and make it seem as if she was not the one who killed them.

]]> 2021-02-25 17:01:14 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1242085968 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243055333 1. Lizzie Borden is guilty of killing her parents.
2.Miss Lizzie came out there….Then I laid down in the bed. I heard the City Hall bell ring and I looked at my clock..Miss Lizzie Hollered ‘Maggie, come down"(source C)
“Mrs. Borden had been killed...And that it was fortunate for Lizzie she had been out of the way, or else she would also have been killed" (source D)
3.Lizzie was the only one in the house that was awake while everyone else was asleep or int their rooms. Lizzie was the only one  who was not hurt and awake.
She was somehow unharmed, and why would the person kill the Borden;s and leave her daughter alive, unless she committed the crime herself.

]]> 2021-02-25 20:04:26 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243055333 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243673559 1) Lizzie Borden is guilty of the murders.

2)Source C: "“I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. I can hear that from my room if anyone is careless and slams the door. The next thing was that Miss Lizzie hollered, "Maggie, come down!" I said, "What is the matter?" She says, "Come down quick; Father's dead; somebody came in and killed him." This might be ten or fifteen minutes after the clock struck eleven, as far as I can judge.”

Source D: "“Glanced about the room and saw there was nothing disturbed; neither the furniture nor anything at all. Mr. Borden was lying with his face toward the south, on his right side, and apparently at ease, as if asleep. His face was hardly to be recognized by one who knew him."

3) Source C proves my point because prior to the murder, Lizzie was asking Bridget many questions, and Bridget did not hear any closing or opening of the door, therefore it was something that happened by someone already in the house, which is Lizzie because she called for Maggie right after it happened to make herself not look guilty. Source D supports my consensus because the doctor says the place looks as if nothing was touched or moved around, and if it were an intruder, I'm assuming the place would be a mess because they are breaking in. This proves again that the killing was done by someone already in the house, which is Lizzie.

]]> 2021-02-25 23:53:20 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243673559 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243917588 2.)  "Saw a lady come out the way from the barn right to the stairs back of the house, the north side stairs. She had on a dark-colored dress. Nothing on her head. Was walking very slow." (source E) 
Source D: "“Glanced about the room and saw there was nothing disturbed; neither the furniture nor anything at all. Mr. Borden was lying with his face toward the south, on his right side, and apparently at ease, as if asleep. His face was hardly to be recognized by one who knew him."
Source C: "“I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. I can hear that from my room if anyone is careless and slams the door. The next thing was that Miss Lizzie hollered, "Maggie, come down!" I said, "What is the matter?" She says, "Come down quick; Father's dead; somebody came in and killed him." This might be ten or fifteen minutes after the clock struck eleven, as far as I can judge.”
3.) These sources show how Lizzie was the only person downstairs with her parents When Maggie went upstairs that when she heard Lizzie scream that her father was killed. Lizzie had time to leave the house and go into the barn to get the ax and come back into the house and make it seem as if she was not the one who killed them.Lizzie was also asking Bridget to many questions and the doctor says the place looks as if nothing was moved or touched  .

]]> 2021-02-26 02:20:58 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1243917588 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1244100334 1. I believe she is guilty of murder.
2. source E: "Saw a lady come out the way from the barn right to the stairs back of the house, the north side stairs. She had on a dark-colored dress. Nothing on her head. Was walking very slow."
source C:  "I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. ...."Come down quick; Father's dead; somebody came in and killed him." 
3.Source C proves my reasoning because before the murder,because Bridget didn't hear someone opening of the entry meaning it should have been someone already inside the house. and source E proves my point as well because, When Maggie went upstairs, she heard Lizzie scream, but during all that time she could have killed him, leave, and come back so that she looks like she just got there.]]> 2021-02-26 04:32:56 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1244100334 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1245742512 1. 
I believe she is definitely  guilty of the murder 
2. 
-I heard no sound; I didn't hear the opening or closing of the screen door. I can hear that from my room if anyone is careless and slams the door." (Source C)
- "Saw a lady come out the way from the barn right to the stairs back of the house, the north side stairs. She had on a dark-colored dress. Nothing on her head. Was walking very slow." (source E) 
3. 
My first piece of evidence shows how she is guilty because they stated that nobody was in the house so how would she hear something from the door. My second piece of evidence shows how she is guilty because when Maggie went upstairs, she heard Lizzie scream, but during all that time she could have killed him]]> 2021-02-26 15:53:08 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1245742512 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1245764119 1) I believe that Lizzie is innocent for the murder of her father and stepmother.
2) Source A: "I had not seen Lizzie at all, from the time of my arrival on Wednesday, until I returned to the house on Thursday, after the murders." 
Source B: "Saw a medium-sized young man of very pale complexion, with his eyes fixed on the side-walk. He was passing slowly towards the south. He was paler than common, and acting strangely." 
3) According to source A, since they were saying that Lizzie was not there when it happened, this helps us understand that she was not the one who killed her father nor stepmother. And in source B they were saying that some person was acting weirdly suspicious, so from this we can tell that this person might have done the killing of Mr and Mrs Borden and not Lizzie Borden. ]]> 2021-02-26 15:57:49 UTC https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1245764119 https://padlet.com/cvalledor/lizzie/wish/1271462620 Lizzie Borden is guilty of the murder of her father and Mrs.Borden.

Source C: “Then I heard like a person at the door was trying to unlock the door but could not; so I went to the front door and unlocked it. The spring lock was locked. I unbolted the door and it was locked with a key; there were three locks. I said "pshaw," and Miss Lizzie laughed, upstairs. Her father was out there on the doorstep. She was upstairs.”

Source E: 
“Saw a lady come out the way from the barn right to the stairs back of the house, the north side stairs. She had on a dark-colored dress. Nothing on her head. Was walking very slow. I didn't see her go in the house. Have seen the servant at that house: delivered ice cream there two or three weeks earlier. This woman was not the servant. Am sure of it.”

Source C shows my point of view on this case, as it shows Lizzie's suspicious acts, laughing at a very strange situation.  Bridget didn't understand the reason for this.  However, after this Lizzie continued asking him questions and influencing him in one way or another to leave the house, a few hours after this Lizzie told Bridget that she had found her father dead from her.  In the ice cream maker's statement, he claims that the woman he saw very close to the house on the day of the murder was not the housekeeper.



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