https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4 Ian R., Hayden, Ian F., Azan, and Dale's discussion Padlet en-us 2017-12-01 16:18:21 UTC 2017-12-21 21:35:28 UTC hello@padlet.com azan_siddiqi https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213141652 When the judge called up witnesses to tell when they interacted with the prisoner]]> 2017-12-05 03:31:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213141652 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213336207 What do you think was Mr. Cruncher's first impression of Charles Darnay?

]]> 2017-12-05 15:27:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213336207 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213336762 2017-12-05 15:27:58 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213336762 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213340155 What is Jerry JR's role in the book and is he going to play as one of the main characters?]]> 2017-12-05 15:32:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213340155 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213340764 The juxtaposition is shown with the love between young Jerry and Lucy, and the abusive relationship between Old Jerry and the wife.]]> 2017-12-05 15:33:39 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213340764 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213364803 What do you think Miss Pross meant when she said, "Never imagined anything. Have no imagination at all,"? Do you think this was to be taken literally? Or is there a deeper meaning to it?

I think it has a deeper meaning, Being the dullness of their environment and simpleness of their city. ]]> 2017-12-05 16:11:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213364803 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213365308 What does Miss Pross do? Why is this important to the plot?

Go to page 101 if you want to learn more about miss Miss Pross's whereabouts]]> 2017-12-05 16:11:47 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213365308 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213371662 Why does Mr cruncher beat his wife for praying?

Mr Cruncher believes that his wife prays against him and wishes that he will have bad luck.

Why?

Hayden Zuza
Probably Mr. Cruncher just has paranoia or perhaps she does this because she wants him to lose his case in court.]]> 2017-12-05 16:22:13 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213371662 azan_siddiqi https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213747775 What happened to Doctor Manette that made him ill for so long?]]> 2017-12-06 15:34:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213747775 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213749212 Who is lady bird?

Its a nickname for Lucy that Miss. pross says to her]]> 2017-12-06 15:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213749212 azan_siddiqi https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213751735 Why does the Monsieur the Marquis think he is the most powerful person in the world? What do think he  will do with whats going on with the Trial and Doctor Manette and Miss Pross?

Monsieur the Marquis is probably worried because of the people rising up in france from the revolution. So his motives will probably be trying to settle down the revolution in France.

]]> 2017-12-06 15:41:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213751735 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213756648 Is the trial a main point throughout the entire story or is it a plot driving execution to show the French dynamic?

Yes i Believe your right about it being an almost parallel plot and that's part of reason there are two main settings, Paris and London. ]]> 2017-12-06 15:50:00 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213756648 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213759628 Is the trial still going on after the 4 month jump to chapter 6?]]> 2017-12-06 15:54:59 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213759628 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213761468 What is Dickens trying to make the reader see by naming the dad and son both Jerry?

Hayden Zuza
Probably just to show how Jerry Jr. follows thoroughly in his Father's footsteps.]]> 2017-12-06 15:58:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213761468 azan_siddiqi https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213767729 I think the Monsieur the Marquis are going to come to London to end the trial]]> 2017-12-06 16:08:49 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213767729 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213938943 In the scene where Monsieur the Marquis kills a citizen carelessly, how do you think this scene reflects the structure of society since the people who watched the child get killed by Monsieur the Marquis did not show any visible anger? 

]]> 2017-12-06 22:42:14 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213938943 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213942540 The french revolution was mainly caused by crumbling finances and no strong national unity . But how much do you think just the overall poor personality of wealthy nobles such as Monsieur the Marquis affected the uprising?]]> 2017-12-06 23:10:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213942540 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213943168 The introduction of the separate plot that involves Monsieur the Marquis starts with action right away and gives little to no background or clear exposition of the second plot. So although this isn't at the beginning of the story I still believe it clearly represents Media Res since the second plot starts with action.

Dale]]> 2017-12-06 23:15:09 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213943168 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213957617 These 3 chapters really represent a clear introduction and fate of the character Monsieur the Marquis, and is shown to be purposely shown this way by the author.  Chapter 7 starts with briefly introducing Monsieur the Marquis as a rich nobleman that is not very caring of people who aren't as wealthy as he is. In the chapter he carelessly instructs his carriage to move quickly through the town center to get home, upon doing so he recklessly runs over a citizen of the village. But the Marquis ignores the death and refuses to pay for a coffin and moves on with his day as if nothing happened. Later on in the day he has a conversation with his nephew about accepting his inheritance when dies. His nephew, Charles Darnay, refuses the inheritance by stating how he is not proud of bearing the name. Ironically at the end of chapter in the morning Monsieur the Marquis is found dead. So This shows chronological order since the author intentively shows how bad karma and actions towards other people leads to one's fate.]]> 2017-12-07 01:17:56 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213957617 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213964052 Do you think Charles Darnay's refusal of his family's inheritance be his own fate? Do you think Lucy Manette will marry Stryver because of him having more wealth possibly?
Ian Rousseau 12/11/17 
I think that lucy will be more forgiving of money and look at the personality of them.]]> 2017-12-07 02:15:06 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/213964052 azan_siddiqi https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/214181840 Why does Miss Pross take care of Lucy, and if its because Doctor Manette is ill, how ill does he have to be to have a caretaker?

Will he has to be pretty ill since he himself is a doctor. And I think Miss. Pross takes care of Lucy because of her tight family bond with the Manettes.]]> 2017-12-07 16:01:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/214181840 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215066645 On page 173 what do you think is the meaning of the bird symbol? Is Madame Defarge trying to say something else?]]> 2017-12-11 15:40:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215066645 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215069012 In chapter 16 is Madame Defarge having a flashback to her childhood as she talks about "John Barsad"?]]> 2017-12-11 15:44:04 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215069012 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215070859 Who is Jacques? Will he play a role later on in the story?

Hayden Zuza
Jacques is codename for revolutionists to call other revolutionists its also used rather frequently by the Defarge's.]]> 2017-12-11 15:47:01 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215070859 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215099978 "Workmen dig, workmen hammer, soldiers laugh and sing; in the morning, by the fountain, there is raised a gallows forty feet high, poisoning the water." This sentence really represents the literary contrasting that Dickens uses throughout the book. The gallows is really shown to be a sort of poison that pollutes society since it is place where a lot of violence happens.]]> 2017-12-11 16:39:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215099978 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215247918 In chapter 14 when Jerry jr. follows his Dad who supposedly said he went fishing, Do you think Mr. Cruncher could possibly be keeping even more crooked and darker secrets? If so how do you think it will change the course of the plot?]]> 2017-12-11 23:02:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215247918 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215251936 What do you think Dickens was trying to message to the reader in chapters 14-17 by involving a large presence of death in the story?]]> 2017-12-11 23:42:55 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215251936 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215258130 "Never did the sun go down with a brighter glory on the quiet corner in Soho, than one memorable evening when the Doctor and his daughter sat under the plane-tree together." This shows a flashback that Doctor Manette remembers with Lucy as she is preparing to be married the next day. Dickinson placed this in the story to show how Doctor Manette values his daughter highly and feels that his daughter has grown up so fast since she already is getting married.]]> 2017-12-12 00:48:45 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215258130 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215419873 Why does Mr cruncher not want Young Jerry saying hooroar. Is it because he doesn't want him shouting in his ear or is there a deeper meaning behind it?]]> 2017-12-12 14:24:38 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215419873 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215445974 Juxtaposition is shown in the life of Mr cruncher. He is a porter for tellsons by day and a graverobber, donating the bodies to medical schools at night. This light and dark comparison shows juxtaposition and a bit of humor in this dark novel.]]> 2017-12-12 15:10:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215445974 hayden_zuza https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215485698 How do you predict people like Mr. Lorry's and Mr Manette's love for Lucy Manette will effect her safety and protection from the revolutionists (the Defarge's) later on in the plot?]]> 2017-12-12 16:15:35 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/215485698 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216525681 Were Mr. Lorry and Miss Pross always this guilty or have they just lost they're complete innocence and honesty? ]]> 2017-12-15 15:52:54 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216525681 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216525880 What route is Charles Dickens taking with the turning of events in chapters 18 and 19? Is he going to allow the characters to continue on this dark path?

Hayden Zuza 
I believe so since the revolution in France just gets more and more chaotic since DIckens is making the book follow a specific historical timeline. Which means more violent and entanglement in Charles Darnay since of his real identity and family.]]> 2017-12-15 15:53:20 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216525880 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216526941 Why or why not do you think Charles Dickens is using a lot of symbols and metaphors in chapters 18 and 19?

Hayden Zuza
I think he does this to contrast of how the wedding day is all bright and cheerful while Dr. Manette is frightened and shows great change in mood. Also Mr. Lorry and Miss Pross even have to get rid of Manette's tools to help Lucie]]> 2017-12-15 15:55:37 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216526941 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216530056 The status of Miss Pross's and Mr Lorry's in society is quite different from what their actual character is like. Since they act so joyous and happy during the wedding between their dear friend Lucy Manette and Charles Darnay. But they show a swift change in that mood when after they hacked the shoemaker's bench at night and burn the body suspicously.]]> 2017-12-15 16:02:15 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216530056 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216780027 Why is Dickens comparing character's personality traits with their footsteps?  ]]> 2017-12-17 17:24:16 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216780027 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216783297 Was Dickens trying to show something stronger by describing the mob as an ocean to the reader?]]> 2017-12-17 17:47:21 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216783297 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216783307 Charles Dickens describes the horde of french revolutionists as an ocean that storms into the Bastille. The chapter precedes very chaotically and flows fast just like an ocean is during during a storm]]> 2017-12-17 17:47:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216783307 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216795894 At the end of chapter 21 Dickens compares the blood stained streets from the rest of the chapter to when wine spilled all over the streets in chapter 5 of the book. I considered this a flashback because of how the author utilized it to bring the reader back on how wine had stained the streets and affect such a large number people. Like the wine, blood and violence later on in the story affect a large number of people that are of such great numbers that they are considered an ocean of people. ]]> 2017-12-17 19:16:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216795894 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216955755 I skimmed through the first few chapters of the story and it seemed rather curious how much of a big deal Dickens made the wine spilling everywhere. DO you think this will play a major role later on in the story?

Nevermind I have reached chapter 22 and know now]]> 2017-12-18 14:21:22 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216955755 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216978150 Was there more metaphors used in the chapter, An Opinion, than just the comparison between the smith and the shoemaker?

]]> 2017-12-18 15:17:25 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216978150 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216979095 Why did dickens skip 3 years between chapter 23 and 24?


Hayden Zuza 12/21/17 
I think Dickens is trying to show how the political turmoil gets more tense in France. Also I believe there is a swift change in plot in the story as new things happen such as urgency to travel to France in chapter 24. So between chapter 23 and 24 Darnay is mostly lying low trying to wait until the revolution dies down and they forget about who he really is, but this is not the case.]]> 2017-12-18 15:19:57 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/216979095 ian_rousseau https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217003545 The quote "Jacques One Jacques two Jacques three! This is the Witness encountered by appointment by me Jacques four. He will tell you all Speak Jacques five!"]]> 2017-12-18 16:15:50 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217003545 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217007936 "The village had its one poor street, with its poor brewery, poor tannery, poor tavern.." 114]]> 2017-12-18 16:25:51 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217007936 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217011091 "Monseigneur was a national blessing, gave a chivalrous tone to things, was a polite example of luxurious and shining life, and a great deal more to equal purpose; nevertheless, Monseigneur as a class had, somehow, or other, brought things to this."

This is an example of parallelism due to the amount of repetition throughout the sentence used to described what a Monseigneur is. What makes it be repetitive is when in the first clause it exclaims how Monseigneur is a name only given to those of honor and elegance. But then as the sentence progresses it keeps on describing how the name is luxurious, shiny to life, and saying it has a great purpose. Continuing the sentence wasn't actually necessary since overall its just repeating what the clause said. So Dickens used this for a purpose and that purpose is to described how the rich and nobles are too full of themselves so they tend to boast an awful lot about themselves. Which makes the reader in turn tired of hearing the same description over and over again much like how the poor revolutionists have grown tired of the rich nobles at the time.]]> 2017-12-18 16:33:29 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217011091 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217013552 "Dead Darkness lay on all the land, dead darkness added its own hush to the hunting dust on all the roads." 128]]> 2017-12-18 16:39:28 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217013552 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217014253 "All this was seen in a moment, as the vision of a drowning man, or of any human creature at any very great pass, could see a world if it were there."]]> 2017-12-18 16:41:07 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217014253 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217121930 "The corner has been mentioned as a wonderful corner for echoes; it had begun to echo so resoundingly to the tread of coming feet, that it seemed as though the very mention of that weary pacing to and fro had set it going." 

This is shown to be a loose sentence since the first clause basically tells the main idea which is that there is a lot of echoes from the corner. This is done to show the reader that the corner is rather mysterious and quite weary. The reason Dickens does this is to create emphasize the echoing by echoing the the first clause of the sentence throughout the rest of the sentence.


]]> 2017-12-18 23:35:02 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217121930 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217130520 "down in the little village, under the mill; or captivity and Death in the Dominant prison on the crag"

This paradox is used to highlight the contrast of the choices peasants could make in France. They are both described as rather awful choices but they in reality they are the choices one must make at the time. Dickens placed this paradox at this spot to show how hopeless the majority working class of France felt, which in turn is what sparked revolutionists to overthrow and decapitate the rich]]> 2017-12-19 01:57:58 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217130520 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217616982 What made Charles Darnay think he would be able to do good if he went to France to save Gabelle? What does this show about his overall character?]]> 2017-12-20 23:57:58 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217616982 https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217617372 Why does Dickens incorporate history so much in ATOTC? How deeply does this affect the plot?]]> 2017-12-21 00:05:30 UTC https://padlet.com/hayden_zuza/qpkpuwtukgm4/wish/217617372