1/21 2nd Period by https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx F451 Section 2 en-us 2022-01-21 14:08:50 UTC 2022-01-25 05:33:14 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f47b.png Emma Baker https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005284085 Yes, my opinion of Montag has changed since the first section. This is because he has given off a different kind of character. I felt like he was more selfish in the first section but in the second section he cares more about Mildred than himself.]]> 2022-01-21 15:51:08 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005284085 michael hassler https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005285356 My opinion of Montag has changed since the first section. He seemed to act like everyone else in society, selfish and stubborn. But now he seems to think more and question things]]> 2022-01-21 15:51:47 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005285356 Addy H https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005286783 My opinion on Montag has changed because he has changed. He was originally quite rude and arrogant and I think he felt a sense of superiority, now he shows a softer more vulnerable side and he see the corruption within their society and so called "utopia".]]> 2022-01-21 15:52:28 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005286783 Peyton Lauterborn https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005286970 My opinion has changed in the sense that i don't see him as just a naive follower of society. I've gained knowledge of his social life and struggles after reading these pages.]]> 2022-01-21 15:52:33 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005286970 Scialabba Michael https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005287245 I used to see him as a firefighter, salary man who wanted to suppress readers. I now see him as a complex character who deeply cares about is wife but is troubled and torn by his work]]> 2022-01-21 15:52:41 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005287245 Lexie (better one) https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005288124 In the beginning of the novel, I thought that Montag was more somber of a man who was used to routine. He doesn't stray from said routine that often and when that did get interrupted he didn't know what to do with himself. That broke that somber shell and now he's in more touch with his surroundings which makes me think that he might be a more genuine guy as a whole. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:53:07 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005288124 Kara Dell https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005288701 My opinion on Montag has changed. I feel after reading the second portion of the story, you see the more caring side of Montag. In the first portion of the story Montag seems almost obsessive towards fire and his job, but through the second part of the story you almost find out why. You learn that life in his home is not the greatest which may be why he longs to go to work and burn books. I think the second portion shows some of the corruption Montag has gone through and why he is so sick towards burning items. He has control. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:53:20 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005288701 Scialabba Michael https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290059 Disturbed I think she is mentally disturbed. As seen from her disconnection from society.]]> 2022-01-21 15:54:02 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290059 Emma Baker https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290144 The adjective that best describes Mildred is oblivious or clueless. She really gives of this vibe that she doesn't realize things going on right in front of her face. When Guy asks her about the previous night and if she remembers anything all she says is that she is hungry thinks they had a wild party. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:54:05 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290144 Zayba Iqbal https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290546 My opinion of Montag has changed because I've seen a different side of him. In section 1, I saw him as an arsonist because of him freely walking in the fire and his life was surrounded by his fireman duties. In the second section, I see a more open side of him after the pill episode and his interactions with Clarisse.]]> 2022-01-21 15:54:18 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290546 Olivia Hieber https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290886 My opinion of Guy has changed because at first I thought he was deliberately trying to seem cool and unfazed by anything, but now I see that it doesn't take much to upset him, as shown by his conversation with Clarisse and how upset he got with the two hospital workers that came to his house. He seems like someone that thinks they deserve more respect than they actually do, probably because of his high position in society as a law enforcement officer. I do think that he is probably one of the most open to different opinions and ideas of the people in his society, as shown by how he follows some of Clarisse's advice and wants to learn more about the conversations that her family has.]]> 2022-01-21 15:54:28 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005290886 Paityn Trogdon https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005291392 I don't know if he's necessarily changed but we now have a better understanding on why he is the way that he is. But this does kinda make you feel sympathy for him.]]> 2022-01-21 15:54:45 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005291392 Scialabba Michael https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292047 I don’t have any evidence to support this but I have a hunch that Guy looks at her as a daugther just the way he acts with her seems like he cares about her like a daughter.]]> 2022-01-21 15:55:03 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292047 Andrew Dover https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292331 Fake. I feel like she is not telling her husband that she is depressed. She tried to kill herself. Dont like her.]]> 2022-01-21 15:55:12 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292331 Caleb Burd https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292529 Yes my opinion has changed, His character has changed and he cares a lot about Mildred now and less about himself.]]> 2022-01-21 15:55:17 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005292529 Cami https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005293668 I think isolated is a good adjective i would use. She feels alone, and like out of the world in her own world. She likes to listen to music and watch TV to be alone and that makes her feel better with her depression. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:55:51 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005293668 michael hasler https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005294538 I think that an adjective that best describes mildred is because she does a lot of thinking and questioning about her world.]]> 2022-01-21 15:56:16 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005294538 Addy Hulbert https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005296068 Depth-less, Mildred has almost no personality and she has little thoughts and opinions. She is a shallow thinker and you can really see that when she reads the play and tries to describe to Montag what it is about and why she thinks its fun.]]> 2022-01-21 15:57:01 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005296068 Brooke Moore https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005296163 My opinion of montag has changed since the first section. Before he seemed like someone who didn’t want to question anything and just wanted to be normal. But after seeing his home life he seems unhappy. He starts to wonder more about his surroundings. He takes the girls advice to tilt his head back and taste the rain. He’s a very divided character especially with the things that have happened to him recently. “He felt his body divide itself into a hotness and a coldness” (Bradbury 24) “I don’t know anything any more” (Bradbury 18)]]> 2022-01-21 15:57:05 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005296163 cami https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005297456 I think they make eachother happy. He said that he thinks of her has someone thats older and not to be 17. She talks about stuff and teaches him new stuff he has never herd before. He also talks to her and is there for her like she is for him. I think maybe Guy is a little jealous of her and her family life. They are all so happy and laugh and spend time together and her doesnt get that with his wife. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:57:48 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005297456 Emma Baker https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299033 After reading more and observing the interaction between Guy and Clarisse, I can tell they are getting closer. I can also tell that Guy is wanting to know more about her and what her thoughts are on different things. From this line: " 'You're not like the others. I've seen a few; I know. When I talk, you look at me. When I said something about the moon, you looked at the moon, last night.' " (Bradbury, 21). Clarisse is saying that she enjoys being around Guy because he actually listens to her. Based on this, I would describe their relationship as good friends and nothing more. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:58:43 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299033 Andrew Dover https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299108 There relationship is weird but good. There different but the same. You can tell there going to have a strong friendship, because they kinda complete eachother. "Im still crazy. the rain feels good. I love to walk in it. I dont think i'd like that, he said. You might if you tried."(Ray 19)]]> 2022-01-21 15:58:45 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299108 michael h https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299422 I would describe their relationship as millie does all the talking and makes guy do the thinking. She is changing Guy. "Of course I'm happy. What does she think? I'm not? he asked the
quiet rooms." (Bradbury, 8). She makes him think all the way home after their encounter]]> 2022-01-21 15:58:53 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005299422 Maddie Volinski 12367100 https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005300445 Yes, my opinion on Montag has changed because of how he cared when he saw Mildred overdosed on the bed. I originally thought he was rude and creepy but now I see he just confused about his place in society. ]]> 2022-01-21 15:59:27 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005300445 Eli Pendergrass https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005300685 Yes, My opinion of Montag has changed. He seems like he is actually feeling some type of way, He also is giving off a different type of character.]]> 2022-01-21 15:59:35 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005300685 Michael Stewart https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301184 Yes, in the beginning of Fahrenheit Guy doesn't seem to have his world view challenged, nor has he ever thought why his life was what it was. He is growing as a character rather than dissociating. We see this when he is thinking about his current state.

]]> 2022-01-21 15:59:49 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301184 Peyton Lauterborn https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301373 An adjective that describes Mildred would be stubborn. I noticed that she couldn't let Guy get words out and cancels a conversation all together when it gets serious.]]> 2022-01-21 15:59:55 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301373 Ashley Bonilla https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301586 My opinion of Guy really has changed more than I expected it to. I did really despise him at first for what he did, burning books and houses (FYI Guy, houses are NOT fireproof). However, he seems like a genuinely lost person just having an identity crisis with a wife who is in denial that she's an addict on sleeping pills who wants to blow off all their money on TV parlors. So yeah, I guess I don't really blame him for doing the things he does, that's just his job. I know if I had a wife or husband like that, I would be in a pretty bad place myself. Society totally sucks in his world. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:00:02 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005301586 Addy Hulbert https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005302470 I think Montag see himself in Clarisse. I think Clarisse has shown him what to value in life and Guy values that. I think Guy see them selves as really good friends or maybe even a father figure and daughter. Guy has changed as a human because of her presence in his life and I think that is more important to Guy than and flat screen TV is. We see him constantly thinking about her and he even compare her to Mildred when he says "How Strange. And my wife thirty and yet you seem so much older at times." (Bradbury 21). I think he likes her depth thinking and how wise she is and he wishes in that Mildred was more like that.]]> 2022-01-21 16:00:27 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005302470 Olivia Hieber https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005303292 One adjective to describe Mildred is dreary. Her days seem to go by slowly as if every day of her life and her whole attitude towards life is overcast. She reminds me of rain clouds that cover the entire sky, and I think that she has that affect when Guy sees her. He always seems dissapointed but not surprised when he interacts with her, like when you know that the weather will be cloudy and sad the next day but there's nothing you can do to stop it. She also has this effect on herself of course, by immersing herself in whatever she listens to in her earbuds or whatever she watches on TV to distract herself from the life she's in, as if she's in a cloud of media to distract herself from her current life.]]> 2022-01-21 16:00:53 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005303292 Eli Pendergrass https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005304935 I think Mildred has problems because she took the whole bottle of pills. She also Seems to isolate herself from the rest of society.]]> 2022-01-21 16:01:46 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005304935 Lilah Krauth https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005305141 For me, yes, my thoughts about Montag have changed. At first I thought he was nothing more than some ignorant, somewhat naive man that accepts whatever society tells him to believe, and he still kind of is, but now we understand that he's not selfish and is showing signs of being open minded when it comes to Clarisse and Millie.]]> 2022-01-21 16:01:53 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005305141 Maddie Volinski 12367100 https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005308203 After seeing the interaction between Guy and Clarisse, I would say their relationship is friendly and she is influencing Guy to be a better person. I see this in the scene in the rain "And sometimes, I tell them, I like to put my head back, like this, and let the rain fall in my mouth. It tastes just like wine. Have you ever tried it?" (Bradbury 20). 
"And then, very slowly, as he walked. tilted his head back in the rain, for just a few moments, and opened his mouth..." (Bradbury 21). ]]> 2022-01-21 16:03:26 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005308203 Eli Pendergrass https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005309661 I feel That Guy looks at her like a daughter. I do not have any evidence that shows this but when they talk she makes him think about himself and she has brought out the other side of him and made him question himself whether he was really happy. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:04:08 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005309661 What adjective do you think BEST describes Mildred? Explain the rationale behind your choice. https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005310830 One word that really describes Mildred is dull.  She doesn't do much other than watch TV and sleep. Also I don't feel like she has much of a personalty. -Ava]]> 2022-01-21 16:04:46 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005310830 Ashley Bonilla https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005312103 I would describe Mildred as "out of her head" or bewildered, for a better word, because she seems lost and dazed as her husband told her she nearly almost died because of ODing on sleeping pills, but she denied that ever happened and stated she "would never do such a thing." Poor girl just wants to escape the twisted reality she's living in where nobody has any freedom whatsoever, and is mindlessly blinded by the media and technology. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:05:27 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005312103 Brooke Moore https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005312462 Mildred is very detached, especially from reality. “She had both ears plugged with electronic bees that were humming the hour away”(Bradbury 18). She’s always in her own world, especially when she takes the sleeping pills. She also refuses to admit that she toke them at all. She talks about getting a fourth tv wall installed. “How long you figure before we save up and get the fourth wall torn out and a fourth wall-TV put in? It’s only two thousand dollars”(Bradbury 20). This is out of budget for them but she says they could do without a few things for this wall. She wants to be further disconnected with reality and more in her realm. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:05:38 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005312462 Lilah Krauth https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005313094 I feel like a word to describe Millie would be "desperate". And I thought of this word because she obviously wants to escape out of reality, wants to escape her society so desperately that she would be willing enough to purposely overdose. It's obvious that she is unhappy, but to go to such lengths to escape imply she is more than just delusional.]]> 2022-01-21 16:05:58 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005313094 Kara Dell https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005315315 I think an adjective to describe Mildred is desperate I think the word desperate describes Mildred because she seems to be so depressed she is desperate to escape by any means. She seems like she has to escape and can not face the real world any longer. These means seem to be through overdosing, listening to music all day long, and TV. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:07:06 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005315315 Zayba Iqbal https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005318209 After seeing Guy and Clarisse' interactions, I would describe their relationship as best  friends. I think this because of the way she springs herself onto him and has no hesitation when asking him whatever. Guy is slowly starting to become more comfortable and confide in her in a way so subtle that I don't think he even notices yet. "And then, very slowly, as he walked, he tilted his head back in the rain, for just a few moments, and opened his mouth...." (Bradbury 21). He did this after she told him the rain tastes like wine. I think that if he never met her, he wouldn't have become so open to ideas and such. Guy also has an impact on Clarisse because he gives her somebody to let all her curiosity onto when her mind takes her to 100 different places. She opened up to him about her psychiatrist and I think that is another step closer to a great relationship they will create further on. "'I've got to go to see my psychiatrist now. They make me go. I made up things to say. I don't know what he thinks of me. He says I'm a regular onion! I keep him busy peeling away the layers'"(Bradbury 20).

 
]]> 2022-01-21 16:08:37 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005318209 After seeing more of the interaction between Guy and Clarisse, how would you describe their relationship? Support your response with evidence from the text (cited appropriately). https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005319712 I think Guy is really interested in Clarisse. After living one way for so long I think he is curious to see how she is living. Clarisse appreciates the little things in life but Guy has never stopped and noticed the little things. "I'm still crazy. The rain feels good. I love to walk in it". "I don't think id like that," he said" (Bradbury 19). -Ava]]> 2022-01-21 16:09:28 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005319712 Brooke Moore https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005321669 I would say their relationship is a learning one. They learn from eachother because of their completely different lives and personalities. Montag is usually puzzled by clarisee but the way she thinks and acts invokes thought in him. After she asks if he’s happy, he goes home and says to himself “He was not happy. He was not happy.” (Bradbury 12). Montag is confusing in a way to Clarris. Hes different than other firemen in her mind. “That’s why I think it’s so strange you”re a fireman. It just doesn’t seem right for you, somehow”(Bradbury 24)]]> 2022-01-21 16:10:29 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005321669 Ashley Bonilla https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005323141 "Are you happy?" (Bradbury, 7)
I believe that their relationship is a little more complex and complicated than what meets the eye. I believe Clarisse sees through Guy's facade of being cool and unfazed by the world that's surrounding him, and frankly being proud of what he's done. As we see through the text, that's clearly not the case with him feeling like his world is being "split in two" and having a full on identity crisis. Clarisse makes Guy think about his life, she gives him something to actually think about rather than dwell in his own personal life. She makes him really think about this "society" he thinks is so good. I like this quality about her. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:11:12 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005323141 Peyton Lauterborn https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005323379 I would describe Guy and Clarisse's relationship as a teacher vs ordinary. She tells him things he's never thought or know of like, "Did you know that billboards used to be 20 feet long...Theres dew on the grass in the morning...long ago firemen used to put fires out instead of going to start them," (Bradbury 7). Guy never sees beyond things and how they are or were. Clarisse always challenges him to see society in a way he's never thought of. She acts like a teacher because she's opened his eye and his mind to see things as they really are...not normal.]]> 2022-01-21 16:11:20 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005323379 Olivia Hieber https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005324764 I think that Clarisse is the final push that Guy needs in order to see whats wrong with what he does. That first "are you happy?" question that Clarisse asks introduces Guy to his new discomfort with his life and hearing about all the outlandish things that Clarisse and her family do intrigues Guy into wanting to learn more about what life would be like if he lived like Clarisse. This is why I think he thinks it's so easy to forgive Clarisse. I also think that when Clarisse says "I'm crazy" every time they meet up, this is her way of saying that it's OK with her if he thinks that the way she talks and thinks is weird, and she doesn't care. I think Clarisse is confused by Guy because of the way he behaves and how that doesn't correlate to his profession. This is shown when Clarisse says "When I said something about the moon, you looked at the moon, last night. The others would never do that. The others would walk off and leave me talking. Or threaten me. No one has time any more than anyone else. You're one of the few who put up with me. That's why I think it's so strange you're a fireman, it just doesn't seem right for you, somehow." (Bradbury 21). This part shows us that Clarisse thinks that Guy is different from the other firefighters she has met in the past and that she appreciates that he actually cares about what she has to say. ]]> 2022-01-21 16:12:03 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005324764 Lilah Krauth https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005336137 It is obvious to me that Montag is very intrigued by this girl and some of her views on society and life. Montag listens to her, he seems very curious about what she has to say and her way of living because she is different to him than other people are. When Clarisse says "'You're one of the few that put up with me. That's why I think it's so strange you're a fireman, it just doesn't seem right for you, somehow.'" (Bradbury 21), it shows how he even intrigues her because he is in a group of people considered to be ignorant and close-minded. Each of the characters are curious to learn about each other and the perspectives they both have.]]> 2022-01-21 16:17:31 UTC https://padlet.com/clinea31/qgzcazhyuicpgflx/wish/2005336137