https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4 observations in book en-us 2018-01-03 14:49:44 UTC 2018-01-31 15:19:30 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/icons/Xmastree.png https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/221739194 The only major rules they had were whoever held the conch go to speak during the assemblies and to keep the fire going so they can get reduced, there should have been more rules made since everyone just did their own thing. ]]> 2018-01-16 15:21:21 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/221739194 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/221739892 The conch rule worked but everyone seemed to do their own thing and no one wanted to contribute to building shelters or keeping the fire going the majority wanted to swim or go hunting.]]> 2018-01-16 15:22:51 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/221739892 justin_bilderback https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223280490 In the beginning of the book there were not really any laws. By voting, they elected their leader. The one rule they had was that whoever was holding the conch got to speak.]]> 2018-01-22 12:00:28 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223280490 justin_bilderback https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223281070 There were no adults on the island so the kids had to live and provide for themselves. The conch idea worked because I️t was easier for one person to speak at a time. Their leader that they voted for also worked. However when I️t came to each person or group pulling their weight, some did not do what they were supposed to do. For example, the group that was supposed to be building shelters did not do what they were asked to do.]]> 2018-01-22 12:03:26 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223281070 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223381449 Having a strong leadership or government present so the rules aren’t forgotten and so no one starts killing]]> 2018-01-22 15:36:36 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223381449 justin_bilderback https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223623396 At the beginning of the book there are a few rules and everyone works well together. At this point of the book everything changes. Jack convinces almost all the boys to join him as he becomes a new leader. He becomes a brutal leader and sets his own rules. There are now no rules on the island. ]]> 2018-01-23 03:17:40 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223623396 justin_bilderback https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223623651 I would use the idea of electing a leader to lead the people. This is fair because everyone would have the chance to vote. I would also use the idea of splitting up into groups so a group of people can complete many tacks. For example, one group was in change of making shelter while another was hunting for food. ]]> 2018-01-23 03:20:19 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223623651 zeppe32 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223807987 In the beginning of the book there really werent any laws implemented other than the holder of the conch can speak during assemblies and that they had a vote to elect a leader. They wouldve benefited from having more structure early on]]> 2018-01-23 15:03:04 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223807987 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808067 The only rule that stuck around was the conch and even then it was destroyed, the boys lost their sense of humanity and started going wild and gave up on being civilized.]]> 2018-01-23 15:03:12 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808067 joseph_roberto https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808114 In the beginning it was total mob rule, until they voted ralph chief even then a lot of decisions were made by the individuals because there was really no outside force to hold the children to the rules]]> 2018-01-23 15:03:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808114 rachel_anderson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808241 At the start of the boys new society, a leader was selected but no major laws were put in place except the rule of the conch. Whoever held the conchcould speak without being interrupted. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:03:28 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223808241 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809115 -Mari]]> 2018-01-23 15:04:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809115 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809298 The main rule that was implemented in the beginning was that who ever had the  conch would be the only person speaking and the rest would be listening so that it didn't get overwhelming and out of hand. The boys also had certain duties for example, some boys were in charge of keeping the fire going]]> 2018-01-23 15:04:54 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809298 rachel_anderson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809424 While the rule of the conch shell was fairly effective it had its moments, the only true thing that really worked was when Ralph blew into the shell they would congregate. Because there weren’t any laws each person did their own thing and no one really contributed to a common goal, therefore nothing got done. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:05:04 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809424 joseph_roberto https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809533 The closest thing to effective rule was the conch but even then the children only respected the conch when it was convenient to them. Their idea of a chief was totally ineffective while it gave the idea of being under control and having laws it eventually turned into mob rule]]> 2018-01-23 15:05:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809533 zeppe32 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809571 The conch seemed to really work but the jobs people had been assigned didnt seemed to be followed.]]> 2018-01-23 15:05:17 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223809571 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810446 Assigning certain kids to watch the fire was a good idea, but there should have been a game plan as far as how to revive the fire or other ways to make it so that they aren’t helpless if the stick aren’t working or it rains on the fire.]]> 2018-01-23 15:06:12 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810446 megan_knapp https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810627 In the beginning, the most important rule was that whoever had the conch shell could talk. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:06:29 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810627 zeppe32 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810706 it becomes a lawless society and any structure they once had is gone.]]> 2018-01-23 15:06:35 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810706 zeppe32 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810969 i would use the need for a strong leadership right from the get go]]> 2018-01-23 15:07:03 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223810969 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811068 The conch did seem to work because the boys really looked at the conch as a symbol of authority when you are speaking, although sometimes the boys got carried away and would talk over the person holding the conch. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:07:12 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811068 joseph_roberto https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811286 No not really, the conch still was in effect but Jack did split from the group and made his own group]]> 2018-01-23 15:07:37 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811286 megan_knapp https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811610 The conch shell worked in the beginning, but started to lose value throughout the book]]> 2018-01-23 15:08:07 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811610 rachel_anderson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811679 At this point in the story, the law of the conch has completely crumbled and as a whole the boys are losing any sense of humanity they harbored. There are no laws and the group is beginning to divide. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:08:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811679 joseph_roberto https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811755 Not a lot from this book, I would try and have a system of some sort of job rotation in order to quench people from becoming bloodthirsty and I would try and have the people vote as well ]]> 2018-01-23 15:08:23 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223811755 rachel_anderson9 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812002 From the start, a strong leader is important as is an opportunity for everyone to be heard (aka the conch) but the boys don’t put much in place to ensure survival they live recklessly and take each day as is with no plan. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:08:47 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812002 megan_knapp https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812355 If more rules were set into place from the start, there may not have been a break in the group. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:09:22 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812355 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812564 At this point the rule of whoever holding the conch could speak started to get destroyed and some of the boys lost respect for it.]]> 2018-01-23 15:09:39 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223812564 lily_tran https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813256 A couple rules that were placed in the beginning of the book was that if the conch shell was blown everyone would gather to the beach for a meeting, whoever has the conch shell could talk, and to keep the fire going so they could get rescued]]> 2018-01-23 15:10:44 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813256 megan_knapp https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813546 Having a person or multiple people in charge to give people certain tasks to do that would help everyone would be really important. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:11:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813546 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813552 I would have a leader a leader as well in my society and everyone will be in charge of something as well ]]> 2018-01-23 15:11:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223813552 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223814364 At first, the conch shell was a symbol of authority where the individual who held it, had the right to speak. As the story progressed, the shell lost its value and meaning. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:12:33 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223814364 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223816900 The implementation of the conch shell as a meeting initiator was simple yet effective in controlling the kids. Ralph gave roles to certain groups/kids and it was alike to occupations in modern society. The use of a vote to appoint Ralph as a leader was a implementation of democracy.]]> 2018-01-23 15:16:35 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223816900 lily_tran https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223817683 The conch rule seemed to work well, but nobody wanted to do any responsibilities (building shelters, keep fire going, etc)]]> 2018-01-23 15:17:58 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223817683 lreana https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223819783 At first, I thought the conch shell and the rules that were developed would keep the group of boys together. However, because of the different age groups and personailities it made them split apart. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:21:19 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223819783 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223820921 The conch shell still had a major influence over the kids as they still would gather for a meeting when it was blown. However, jobs fell apart when kids ignored their responsibilities to swim in the pond. The lack of responsibility in Jack causes the group to split in opinions on how they should live on the island. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:22:46 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223820921 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223821307 It was very important to keep the signal fire going. Ralph made sure this was a rule because signal fires could help them become rescued faster. Also, in the beginning, Ralph decided that whoever held the conch had the authority to speak during meetings. That way everyone had the right to voice their opinions but in a one-at-a-time kind of manner.

]]> 2018-01-23 15:23:22 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223821307 lreana https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822124 Setting certain people in charge of things and to complete certain tasks.]]> 2018-01-23 15:24:39 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822124 lily_tran https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822216 The conch shell rule was completely destroyed. Ralph tried keeping the fire going for as long as possible but eventually that was destroyed as well because Jack and his group were starting to lose their humanity and not thinking about getting rescued anymore.]]> 2018-01-23 15:24:48 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822216 lreana https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822672 Ralph tried to create rules and civilization with in the group of boys. However due to the lack of immaturity and the mixed group of ages and immaturity it started to fail.]]> 2018-01-23 15:25:21 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822672 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822937 Jack's savagery and control over most of the members of the group causes the conch shell to lose meaning and Ralph's leadership to diminish. The incentive to hunt for food overtook the incentive to build shelter and seek rescue. The lack of discipline in the kids causes the group to fall apart.]]> 2018-01-23 15:25:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223822937 lreana https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824008 At first the Ralph was leader and had control of the boys however the boys started to not listen to him and thats when it started to fail. No one listened. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:27:16 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824008 lily_tran https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824325 I would assign people different tasks to split the responsibility and have a rule similar to the conch shell rule because it kept order within the group before they started losing their humanity.]]> 2018-01-23 15:27:43 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824325 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824387 A vote would be needed to decide on tasks and each member would have a role while also working as a team. The use of the conch shell to keep meetings orderly was a clever idea. ]]> 2018-01-23 15:27:48 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/223824387 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224040206 The conch shell still seemed to work well. One who is holding the conch shell has the authority to speak, and when the conch shell is blown, everyone must gather for a meeting. The group seemed to have trouble keeping the signal fire going. Throughout the 6 chapters Ralph kept getting mad at Jack and his group for not keeping up with their responsibilities.]]> 2018-01-23 22:39:25 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224040206 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224041365 In the beginning, Ralph was the initial leader of the group. Towards the end, the group basically started to turn against Ralph, and Jack created a new group in which he was the leader of. In the last chapter, all of the group members were on Jack's side and failed to listen to Ralph again. ]]> 2018-01-23 22:45:55 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224041365 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224042791 I would have everyone vote for a strong leader that would assign people certain jobs to do (such as one group building shelters or another group in charge of finding food). I believe this would help keep everyone in order without bringing chaos. ]]> 2018-01-23 22:54:29 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224042791 john_butkowski https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224064623 The need for a solidified leader was clearly much more important than what the kids had thought. I would make sure that there was a clear leader or leaders in place to have to have some kind of authority or power to get things done, and keep the society in proper order. ]]> 2018-01-24 02:02:15 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224064623 kylieg00 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073067 In the beginning of the only rule that was placed was when the conch shell was blown everyone must come to the beach. 
Due to the split among the group this rule did not last long.]]> 2018-01-24 03:08:41 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073067 kylieg00 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073190 The conch shell did seem to work at first but after the split among the kids Jack’s tribe never went to the beach when they heard the shell. ]]> 2018-01-24 03:09:50 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073190 kylieg00 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073326 More rules should have been placed from the start so that the boys didn’t lose every amount of humanity left in them ]]> 2018-01-24 03:11:01 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073326 kylieg00 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073524 Choosing a leader who would only help everyone and keep everyone sane]]> 2018-01-24 03:12:43 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224073524 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224079941 One of the most paramount rules implemented when the civilized group was established was the conch shell. The boys were instructed to listen quietly to the one holding it, but the immaturity of the boys and the disagreements between them diminished this rule. ]]> 2018-01-24 04:11:26 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224079941 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224080181 When the civilization was developed, Ralph was the only leader. Later on in the text, the boys turned on him and began following Jack's group that he established when the disagreements between him and Ralph separated them. ]]> 2018-01-24 04:13:26 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224080181 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224080452 I would assign individual tasks to each person, based on their strength of certain abilities. Additionally, I would appoint a strong leader that will ease all disagreements and issues, in order to prevent what happened in LOTF. ]]> 2018-01-24 04:15:21 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224080452 emily_nguyen4 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082361 Ralph had made some simple rules for the boys to follow such as the boys are instructed to listen to the boy that is holding the conch shell and interrupting them is not allowed. And, another rule that was made was to keep the signal fire on the mountain going at all time.

]]> 2018-01-24 04:33:03 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082361 emily_nguyen4 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082543 Something that seemed to work well was the conch shell, because it allowed a boy to be able to talk without being interrupted. Something that didn't seem to work was the rule about the signal fire that must be going on at all times. The boys didn't always follow the rule. ]]> 2018-01-24 04:35:25 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082543 emily_nguyen4 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082683 Originally, Ralph was the only leader that ruled over the boys, however later in the story Jack and his followers split from Ralph and they make their own colony somewhere further from the original group.]]> 2018-01-24 04:37:10 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082683 emily_nguyen4 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082924 I would use something like the conch shell, because it will allow one person to be heard and not be interrupted. I will also choose a strong leader that everyone will agree on. And, I will allow everyone to use their strengths in their ability and use it to help the civilization. ]]> 2018-01-24 04:38:53 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224082924 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083215 In the beginning of the book the most important rule was that whenever the conch shell was blown all of the boys would gather around and listen to whoever was holding the conch shell which symbolized order within the society.]]> 2018-01-24 04:42:22 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083215 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083236 What seemed to work for the boys was the use of the conch shell which symbolized civilization and order. What didn’t work at all was the assignment of the groups and what their assigned job was. For example, although the boys within Jack’s group were assigned to keep watch of the fire they spent most of their time hunting with Jack which explains why the fire always went out.]]> 2018-01-24 04:42:37 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083236 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083295 A rule that was changed from the beginning of the book was that whenever the conch shell was blown everyone would gather around and listen to the leader although that rule slowly lost its purpose as the boys, especially Jack, rebelled and chose not to follow the rule anymore.]]> 2018-01-24 04:43:35 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083295 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083319 Some things that I would consider using from this book in my society would be that one person would be assigned the official leader of the group and there would be separate groups assigned to do certain tasks so there would be authority and equal responsibility in the society.]]> 2018-01-24 04:43:55 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224083319 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224242286 At the beginning of their time on the island, the boys made and followed rules. Their society seemed like it would work well, the conch symbolized authority and gave power to the holder, it kept things organized. The fire was tended to at all times and never went out and shelters were built. After a while however, people became fed up with rules.

]]> 2018-01-24 14:55:35 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224242286 john_butkowski https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224492173 In the very beginning of the boy's story, the boys develop very simple basic rules, and the bare fundamentals of a functioning society. They developed the conch into a symbol of power and authority, and set basic priorities such as hunting, building shelter, and tending to the fire.]]> 2018-01-25 01:56:24 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224492173 john_butkowski https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224492580 The main thing that seemed to work the best, and remained a constant source of power and authority was the conch. What didn't seem to work very well, was all of the tribes tending to their duties and responsibilities, such as Jack's tribes failure to tend to the fire resulting in tension amongst the tribes. ]]> 2018-01-25 02:00:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224492580 john_butkowski https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224493293 At the beginning, it was decided that there would only be one leader amongst the boys: Ralph. As time went on, and tensions grew, some boys such as Jack had had enough of Ralph and his ways and eventually began to disobey his orders and commands, which would ultimately result in the group splitting completely. ]]> 2018-01-25 02:06:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224493293 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224648505 The conch seemed to work for a bit, but people slowly started disregarding it. People would talk without holding it, and it slowly lost its meaning. In the beginning it symbolized authority and order, but that faded. ]]> 2018-01-25 14:12:34 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224648505 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224649224 Ralph eventually loses his power as the leader when Jack decided to leave and make his own tribe. The boys slowly leave Ralph's group and his authority is replaced by Jack's. The conch has no meaning anymore, the signal fire is left out and forgotten about. When Jack is in charge, rules go away completely.]]> 2018-01-25 14:13:55 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224649224 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224650180 I would look at everything Jack did and make sure to stay away from it. The way Ralph ran things could be used in our society, voting on a leader for example. Calling meetings could be used in some way. ]]> 2018-01-25 14:15:40 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224650180 haley_plitt https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224883601 I observed that the rules the boys implemented was first they elected a chief, which was smart to have a set leader that everyone agreed on. Also, they conducted a rule that when holding the conch, that's the only time you're allowed to speak.]]> 2018-01-25 21:29:12 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224883601 haley_plitt https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224884491 What seemed to work was the power of the conch so that everyone listens to one another. What didn't seem to work was having just one leader. ]]> 2018-01-25 21:32:27 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224884491 haley_plitt https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224887460 When Jack made his own tribe, most of the others left Ralph's to go to jacks. This didn't work because they should've been working together instead of fighting.]]> 2018-01-25 21:44:44 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224887460 haley_plitt https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224888914 I would consider using the way Ralph was a leader if I ever were to be in that position, because he knew how to run a society and how to work together to get things done.]]> 2018-01-25 21:53:24 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224888914 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224894380 The first thing that they boys established on the island was a leader. They vote Ralph as head chief to bring rules and order to the group. The second rule involved the conch shell: when the conch was held, no one else except the one holding the conch was allowed to speak. Their next step to keep order was to give jobs: some hunting, some tending to the fire, some building shelter.]]> 2018-01-25 22:24:49 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224894380 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224895144 The conch worked fairly well. People usually kept their mouth shut when they didn't have the conch, even if they needed to be reminded a few times. Before the end, every one respected Ralph as a leader as well. What didn't work, though, was assigning people jobs and expecting people to listen. They neglected to keep the fire lit and only Simon and Ralph worked on building shelter.]]> 2018-01-25 22:30:06 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224895144 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224895602 From the beginning of the book to the end, the group changed their mindset and their goal. At first it was pretty laid back and as the book progressed Ralph got more and more strict on the importance of having a rescue fire lit. Another thing that changed was Jack's ideas of rules for the group. While safety was at first the number one priority, the most important thing later became hunting and violence. All of the rules originally set were completely ignored. ]]> 2018-01-25 22:33:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224895602 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224896163 I think every society needs some sort of leader to establish rules (like Jack) so I would consider using that. I think assigning jobs is an efficient way to get things done as well.]]> 2018-01-25 22:37:24 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224896163 ben_grossman https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224935817 In the beggining there is no major rules put in place besides the rule of the conch. They choose the leader though so that’s major ]]> 2018-01-26 05:06:42 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224935817 ben_grossman https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224935998 The conch seemed to work very well but no one really wanted to do anything important like the responsibilities]]> 2018-01-26 05:09:49 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224935998 ben_grossman https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224936372 It’s really became almost like a lawless society. If more rules were put into place it wouldn’t be like this I don’t think ]]> 2018-01-26 05:13:29 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224936372 ben_grossman https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224936495 I think every society needs a leader basically so for my society we’re goinf to assign bob Ross to lead us to success]]> 2018-01-26 05:15:14 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/224936495 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225657054 in the beginning they established the rule of the conch that determined authority and they picked a leader, along with basic rules]]> 2018-01-29 15:02:33 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225657054 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225658246 the conch worked for a little but ended up becoming unimportant and everyone started to talk when they didnt have it so the idea of authority was gone.]]> 2018-01-29 15:04:10 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225658246 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225663298 the rules started to get disregarded and there were fights over who would be the leader until both groups split up and everyone was fighting]]> 2018-01-29 15:11:48 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225663298 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225664810 there needs to be implemented rules but everyone needs to be treated fairly and someone needs to be assigned a leader to make sure all of the rules were being followed.]]> 2018-01-29 15:14:06 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/225664810 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226602830 the conch shell was used to call together meetings so whoever used it was in charge ]]> 2018-01-31 15:15:13 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226602830 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226603386 the conch shell worked at the beginning but once jack made his own group it didn't hold it's use anymore ]]> 2018-01-31 15:16:06 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226603386 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226604026 the longer they were on the island the more careless they became and soon there were barley any rules and more acts of violence ]]> 2018-01-31 15:17:03 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226604026 https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226605286 i would use the idea of choosing a leader and assigning everyone a specific job ]]> 2018-01-31 15:19:08 UTC https://padlet.com/DayCap/LOTFperiod4/wish/226605286