https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4 As you move through each discussion station, consult the detailed questions in your Greek Drama Packet. Then add new evidence to the Padlet discussion and record ideas found here in your own notes. en-us 2020-11-17 20:09:23 UTC 2021-10-18 22:10:08 UTC hello@padlet.com 21gwendolyngleason1 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934126681 Gwen, Natalie, Mia

Antigone is torn between the governmental law, religious law, and patriarchal law. One scene that exemplifies this is when Antigone chooses to face capital punishment to complete burial rights (following the God's rule). By breaking the gov's law, Antigone also breaks patriarchal law by disobeying Creon. This conflict is what sparks the events of the play.

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Antigone faces the internal conflict of obeying her family while also staying true to her morality. She sacrifices her family's loyalty for Polyneices' burial. ]]> 2020-11-17 21:38:21 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934131030 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934132669 miranda and skylar 
He coveys the message of blaming and perpetuating emotions onto the bearer of news rather than the root of the problem. ]]> 2020-11-17 21:38:52 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934132669 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934137093 Luna and Claire

Creon is set in his ways and refuses to pardon Antigone or give Polyneices a burial. Tiresias warns him that he is going against the gods if he continues down this path and as a consequence his son, Haemon, will die. ]]> 2020-11-17 21:40:15 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/934137093 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943490308 Sophia, Peter, and Miranda Lile

Antigone believes in a traditional Greek view of the world. She believes that it is her duty to bury her brother and honor him. This action is her way of honoring the Gods and carrying out justice. She believes that honesty is important as she does not deny that she buried her brother, even when facing death. She thinks it is unjust and unfair that she carries the weight of her parents sins and fate. The chorus touches on this on page 112, "But in this ordeal you are paying, perchance, for your fathers sin". Antigone responds, "You have touched on my bitterest thought". This character reveals that humans will go to great lengths for what they believe is just. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:06:03 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943490308 21sydneycottongim1 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943501436 The basis of their feud is the debate of loyalty. Antigone believe the loyalty to the gods and family is more important than loyalty to the state. This directly challenges Creon's power. Creon believe that because he is the care giver and ruler she should be loyal to him because his word is the law. The power dynamic between Creon and Antigone shows the greeks value of male dominance. This dived case tension because anteogie is a women who is challenging a mans authority. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:09:28 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943501436 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943502482 When Haemon argues with his father, Creon, about whether or not to kill Antigone he cautioned Creon that he was being single-minded and doesn't consider what others think. In addition, he states that anyone can bend in their beliefs.]]> 2020-11-19 21:09:48 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943502482 21oliver_niehaus https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943504146 2020-11-19 21:10:19 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943504146 21gwendolyngleason1 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943505574 Gwen and Mia

The guard turns Antigone in to Creon at the beginning of the play. He retells how Antigone performed burial rights on her brother. Although the guard is friends with Antigone, he chooses arrest her because of his fear of Creon. Notably, the guard is left untouched by the tragedy of the play, showing how the events cementing that his indifference is warranted.]]> 2020-11-19 21:10:45 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943505574 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943506472 Miranda and Livy
The guard specifically says that he was conflicted about delivering the message and that it would work out better for him if someone else were to deliver it, showing that he fears Creon's response.]]> 2020-11-19 21:11:02 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943506472 21gabriellakoziol1 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943511008 Haemon sacrifices familial values and then ultimately his own life to convey his anger at his father's decisions and Antigone's injustice. When Haemon discusses Antigone's fate with his father, Creon,  he questions his father's power and process of running a country, and directly disobeys his father's wishes by standing up for Antigone. Here, he sacrifices the greek value of family unity and gains a new sense of independence at the cost of losing his father trust. Haemon also commits the greatest sacrifice of all: taking his own life. After seeing his fiance dead in her cave/tomb, Haemon once again lashes out at his father, physically this time, and then falls upon his own sword, killing himself. He sacrifices his own life to stand up against his father and share the same fate as his loved one. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:12:25 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943511008 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943515539 Miranda and Livy
The two disagree over leadership styles concerning how much you should take the opinions of others into account. When the two argue, Haemon suggests that Creon would make a good monarch  of a desert, suggesting he rules as if he is the only person on his own radar. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:13:49 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943515539 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943519654 Creon did what he believed to be fulfilling justice by not allowing for Polyneices' burial. This is because Polyneices left his kingdom to fight against his own people, so to Creon, refusing a burial means justice is served.]]> 2020-11-19 21:15:08 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943519654 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943522058 Creon and Haemon have layers within their power dynamic. Creon is Haemons father as well as the king of thebes. Haemon values following his father and respects the familiar respect expected of him but believes that Creon should change his decision to kill Antigone. Since Haemon respects his father and the power Creon has but disagrees with his verdict, Haemon decides the way to gain power in the situation is to take his life and in turn leave an impact on his father. "Father I am yours, and in your wisdom you trace the rules which I shall follow" (107). This quote demonstrates Haemons general agreement with his fathers power. Haemon later says, "You would make a good monarch of a desert" (109) showing the scorn he feels at his fathers decision. Haemon and Creons relationship shows that unbalanced power dynamics within a family can tear them apart. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:15:55 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943522058 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943537027 2020-11-19 21:20:43 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943537027 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943539412 Miranda and Livy
Creon was brought to justice for sentencing Antigone to a terrible fate even though he ended up alive at the end. This occurred through the deaths of his close family members, which is possibly worse than death, so he was brought to justice for the death of Antigone. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:21:15 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943539412 21sydneycottongim1 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943555755 At the expense of his own life he is used to serve justice for his fathers arrogant behavior and Antigone's death. Creon's actions are punished through the loss of loved ones just as Haemon lost Antigone.  Haemon's character is used as a motivator as after his death he is never served justice despite him being a pawn in his fathers downfall. By serving justice for his dad he simultaneously brings justice for Antigone's execution. Haemon's death demonstrates that justice is served at the expensive of others punishing Creon. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:26:04 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943555755 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943557602 2020-11-19 21:26:41 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943557602 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943563559 Throughout the play, Antigone is faced with many conflicts involving her loyalty to religion, family, and state. All of these conflicts start when her Uncle Creon refuses to correctly bury her brother Polyneices. Antigone believes that her brother, despite his attack on Thebes, deserves a proper burial because he is still a part of the royal family. This sprouts into a conflict of state as when she opposes Creon's  verdict and attempts to bury her brother herself. This attempt leads to Creon sentencing her to death for her actions, showing that she is willing to die in order to say loyal to her family and religion, "... for it was not Zeus who had published that edict; not such are the laws set among men by the Justice who dwells with the gods below" (102).
Besides her cursed existence thanks to her parents, Antigone still remains loyal to the system she is cursed to live under. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:28:26 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943563559 21oliver_niehaus https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943573887 Creon holds power over Haemon as the father figure and thus Haemon grows bitter over his father's lack of acceptance for the woman he wants to marry and the choices he makes. The power Creon accumulates makes him arrogant, selfish, and just downright nasty to those around him. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:32:04 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943573887 https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943574544 Antigone’s story essentially starts with Oedipus. His banishment/sins put a bad name on their house and cause stigma to surround them. Since he was no longer the king, his sons, Eteocles and Polyneices, went to war and fought for the position of the king. They both end up dead, and their uncle, Creon assumes the ruler of Thebes. Creon declares Eteocles as a war hero and Polyneices a war criminal, refusing to give him a burial. With no proper burial, this prompts Antigone to try and give Polyneices a funeral which goes against the state (Creon). All in all, the absence of Oedipus is the reason that Antigone must go to these lengths in order to bury her brother. ]]> 2020-11-19 21:32:19 UTC https://padlet.com/pattysibbernsen/pyxcorw5k0k73x4/wish/943574544