https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob Let's talk en-us 2020-04-28 12:15:43 UTC 2020-05-17 12:36:32 UTC hello@padlet.com https://padlet.net/icons/png/1f914.png liesbethvanmaele https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/545581590 Discuss the following questions:
1) Are there positive sides to the Corona crisis?
2) Do young people only think about themselves?]]> 2020-05-02 13:55:50 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/545581590 bo_deschrijver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559308017 Question 1: I think there are some positive sides to the Corona crisis. The first positive thing is that I (and I think a lot of people) have realized what a great life we normally have. Sometimes I thought that my life was boring and that I didn't do anything but now I see that I experience lovely adventures and moments with my friends and family and that I should be really grateful for that. If all of this is over I will appreciate more what I have and I now I know that these things aren't obvious. I've also realized how important friends and family are. I always knew that but this period really made me think. I have missed social contact so much and I miss talking to people in real life and from on i'm going to do even harder my best for my friends and put more effort into my social relationships. Another benefit of this crisis is that people can't travel / chill outside anymore so there is less carbon dioxide emissions which is better for the environment of course. It really makes me happy when I see pictures online of places where there is normally a lot of pollution but now it's way more clean. For example the river in Venice or the air in India. I don't like this period and I hope things go back to normal soon but some things that are happening now learns us a lesson that we shouldn't forget.]]> 2020-05-08 08:52:09 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559308017 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559318148 1) I have no doubt that there are positive sides to the Corona crisis. I think that everybody knows that our bonds with family and friends are going to be stronger after this crisis because now we can't see each other, but when we will be able to see each other, we're going to be happier than before. We will catch up on the lost time and this will create a stronger bond. Also, the fact that everybody is fighting against one enemy is something that puts us next to each other instead of thinking about inequalities.]]> 2020-05-08 08:57:08 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559318148 bo_deschrijver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559356804 Question 2: I don't think young people only think about themselves. There are a lot of initiatives that are set up by younger people. For example: the people who are already in college posted a message on their social media with which degree programme they are doing now, and so the people who are going to study next year can send them a message for more info. That way you can get a better picture of a particular degree programme because there aren't any info days.]]> 2020-05-08 09:18:35 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559356804 bo_deschrijver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559360017 I am completely in agreement with you  @Iris. Our bonds will be stronger and I also think that we learned who are true friends are and who not. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:20:32 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559360017 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559389829 Bo, didn't see your first answer at first but now that I've seen it, I couldn't agree more with your statements.]]> 2020-05-08 09:37:28 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559389829 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559396872 I'm also appreciating the moments with my friends and family before the Corona crisis and I miss the contact with them too. I share your view on how the crisis is changing the amount of emissions and that this helps the environment. I just hope that it will actually make a difference for the climate because we will go back to the "normal" ways, back to polluting the air.]]> 2020-05-08 09:41:30 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559396872 tine_deseure https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559398330 Question 1: I completely agree with Bo and Iris. The bonds with our family and friends that we have to miss will only strengthen after the corona crisis. It also strengthens the bonds with the people with whom we are stuck in quarantine. We realize more than ever who is important in our lives. I also certainly agree with the fact that it's good for our environment. The air quality is better and the rivers in Venice have clear water again.  I would also like to add that the corona crisis is good for R&D. A lot of research is being done into new things to solve this problem. A lot of new inventions are being made and people are coming up with the craziest ideas that can help us during this crisis. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:42:19 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559398330 tine_deseure https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559417714 Question 2: As Bo says, I don't think we're selfish. This is just an image that the "baby boomers" have of us. I think we just have other ways than them to help each other.  As Bo mentions, we do this for example through social media to help with study choices, but the older people don't see this. I think everyone helps other people in their own way, and there are several right ways to do this.  It doesn't mean that it's done differently that it's wrong. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:53:42 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559417714 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559419042 2) I believe that younger people don't only think about themselves too. I've seen these messages that the students send on social media too and I was able to get some information from a student. So I agree with that statement. I believe that thinking only about yourself is a personality that you can't just give to a group of people. Everybody has a personality of their own and I bet that not every young person is selfish. These days, there are a lot of measures that I am certain that almost everybody follows. So everybody, that means also the younger people, are helping each other out by staying at home and wearing masks when they have to.]]> 2020-05-08 09:54:25 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559419042 laura_delijser https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559426530 Question one : Personally speaking, I think Bo and Iris are right about creating better and stronger bonds with our close friends and family. In this strange crisis I do really think it becomes obvious who your close friends are. Some people just seem to dissapear, and some check on you and ask regularly how you're doing. Some people do really care, but maybe less than you expected. Bo also made a good point when she said we'll appreciate the little things more. I think we sometimes forget to live in the moment and are so busy with what happend the week before or what will happen next month. The last day we were allowed to be out in public (without us even knowing), we celebrated having only 100 days left to go to school. In the meantime, 56 days have passed. It feels like we just missed about two months of our last year of high school, which sounds unreal. Of course none of us saw a pandemic coming, but having to be in quarantaine for this long is so strange. I believe all of this shows us that a change in our lives could happen in no time, and we should always enjoy the present, because it could change any time. As Bo and Tine mentioned, the changes we notice in climate are unbelievable. In Venice, the water is crystal clear again, fish are visible and swans have returned. In some cities, wild animals have reclaimed the streets. Air pollution has also dropped in some of the most polluted cities like New Delhi and Wuhan. I really think these events give us unique insights into the impacts that we humans have upon the environment in many ways. This is an opportunity to see how much better it could be. I think it tells us what we could achieve if we put our minds to it. ]]> 2020-05-08 09:58:28 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559426530 nemo_boulnois https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559430647 Well you guys have summarized my thought about the corona crisis. Nobody likes this situation but we all agree that this situation has made us reflect on our privileged situation. I personally wanted to go to a festival this summer and I was really down due to the thought that I could not go. But then I realized that this summer will be incredibly special. Nobody will go on vacation everybody will be home and so we will do new activities. This will be a real opportunity for us. Because now we cant see our friends and family we will use the time lost during the quarantine and so enjoy their company a lot more. Bo talked about the climate change and what de drop in pollution made us realize. In Venice the mayor is thinking about banning mass tourism in has city so that the ancient structures are saved.]]> 2020-05-08 10:00:56 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559430647 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559430848 Regarding question 1: I totally agree with your previous statements Bo and Iris. It was the first thing that popped into mind. I am a firm believer that there are always positive aspects to a situation no matter how horrendous it might seem. In this case, there is so much data provided during this crisis. On a medical level, but also on a sociological level and I think it will provide us with some very good insights into how people respond to very big changes, loneliness etc. People find solace in others and by socially distancing themselves, we are refraining ourselves from what is a very natural thing to do. However, I don't really agree with the fact that this is good for the environment. At first, it seems like it is, but in fact, we will see an increase in global temperature. The emissions from China contain a lot of aerosols that (very simply put) stop the sunlight and therefore form a barrier. We've now lost this and thus the temperature will increase. China will likely invest heavily in their economy to bounce back from this pandemic. This will result in an increase in aerosols (yey) but also a huge increase in CO2.  We've also learned that working from home isn't ideal and that essential workers aren't always the CEO's, managers but the janitors, nurses and teachers. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:01:04 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559430848 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559434884 I agree with Tine on her statement on question 2. Nowadays, technology is improving fast and I take the view that elder people are having a hard time adapting to these new changes. By communicating through social media, we, the younger people, help each other out. And to prove that we don't only think about ourselves, you can ask a lot of people how they're handling this situation; sitting at home all day not being able to see their friends or family. I bet a lot of them will answer that it's hard.]]> 2020-05-08 10:03:41 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559434884 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559441514 2) You guys couldn't have done a better job putting my thoughts into words and I completely agree! This may be a bit harsh to say, but if younger people would only think about themselves, we wouldn't have been in a complete lockdown. We can survive this and it doesn't have that much of an impact on us. We're doing this for our elderly. The younger people go shopping for people at risk and basically just helping others out who are in danger. If that isn't altruistic ;)]]> 2020-05-08 10:07:44 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559441514 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559449201 I agree with Nemo regarding the festivals: I was also really looking forward to them and had several tickets before it got cancelled so when hearing Jan Jambon say: it's cancelled, it really took a hit on my well being, but in the grand scheme of things it's nothing compared to the other stuff we have to deal with and the festivals will be 10 times more special next year!]]> 2020-05-08 10:12:41 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559449201 laura_delijser https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559449462 Question two : Iris is completely right about categorizing the youth in such ways. If you're a good person and you realise what is going on right now, you will follow the guidelines of the governement, regardless of your age. If you don't care about yourself or your family you will break the rules and go out to see people, also regardless of your age. I've seen young and old people follow the rules, and I've seen both of these also break them. There's not a certain group of people who don't care and a group of people who follow every single guideline. I understand where the question comes from though. Young people have a lower risk of getting extremely sick and possibly even dying, and therefore could tend to care less about seeing other people. But I do think us young people realise just as well as everybody else that this situation is dangerous for everyone, including the people we love and care about. I personally follow the guidelines to protect myself, but most importantly my family. I could never forgive myself if I would infect my mom or grandparents because I thought I wouldn't get sick. I've seen people of all ages break these rules. Simply said, they care neither for their own health nor that of their loved ones, and that is in fact selfish. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:12:52 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559449462 bo_deschrijver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559458137 I'm feeling the same way that Iris does we cannot say that all young people think only of themselves, we cannot generalize that. You need to look at each individual separately. I think we are doing great, although some people still get together. What I do think is that young people moan about this situation more than adults do but that's just my personal opinion. I see more negative social media posts than positive and I thinks that's a shame. We should talk about the positive aspects because that will make people feel better. The negativity won't get us any further. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:18:01 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559458137 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559462883 I agree with Paulien about question 1. It is true that we will learn from this crisis. We will be able to study the behaviour of people in these times. We already know that helping each other is very important in such times. We also have a lot of time to think/reflect about ourselves and our behaviour as opposed to others. You can see this crisis as it is; it "injected" us as a sickness and now we know what to do when this sort of situation happens again. Like when a person has corona, he/she will have antibodies against it so this person will be able to handle the sickness next time. Maybe that is a little weird way of seeing it, but I think you can see it like that.]]> 2020-05-08 10:21:13 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559462883 nemo_boulnois https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559466834 2: Well yes of course we don't think we are selfish because why would we call ourself that? I think older generations always have a critical view on the new arrivals. The younger one's always tend to do it differently in comparison with the old classic ways.  Older people like the baby boomers are indeed not used to our lifestyle. But we are not selfish at all we will have to collaborate in the future to prevent climate change to become worse. The baby boomers were too selfish to do something about it and now we will have to fix their mess. W'eve created hundreds and hundreds of ways to communicate around the world. Our generation was born with the internet and it has become a part of our life. I can now have friends all around the world and still speak to them. We can share jokes and information to whom we want. Scout movements have never been so busy entertaining the kids. An enormous amount of organizations have been created to help those in need and never in the history of humanity  poverty was so low as now. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:23:49 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559466834 nemo_boulnois https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559480647 Bo is totally right about the fact that on our social media platforms there is a lot of negativity however since the COVID-19 situation started I have seen so much original ways to keep busy. Yet the newspapers keep giving bad news even though we ask for positivity. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:32:20 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559480647 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559481571 You're right Bo. I think this whole group is following the guidelines and therefore saying the younger generation isn't selfish because we are seeing it from our perspective. You'll always have people not following the guidelines whether they're 20 or 60. Personally, I work in a bakery and clearly see that people under 40 are following the social distancing rules and wearing masks. However, older people stop for a chat and come very close. Some just aren't that aware or forget about it. This may be a coincidence, but I did notice it these past 5 weeks.]]> 2020-05-08 10:32:59 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559481571 laura_delijser https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559486114 I have no doubt about what Nemo says about us young people. We have in fact done things differently and handles situations differenlty than the generations before us would. We did create numerous ways to communicate and created organizations to help people who have the virus right now. Our ways of functioning (like the internet, which we associate with the youth) have many benefits, and I think we try our best to help everyone who may need it right now. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:35:54 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559486114 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559486486 I agree with Nemo. We should never doubt new generations about their abilities. It is a fact that every new generation will learn about all the mistakes we made in the past. For example the baby boomers who didn't pay attention to the climate. We will learn from it and never make that mistake again. I also hope that the more generations that come, the wiser we get so that we can find ways to solve this huge climate change problem. Another problem lies by mankind, such as poverty. I believe so too that it is at its lowest point but it still isn't low enough. So we, as the new generations, could work on that in the future.]]> 2020-05-08 10:36:08 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559486486 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559489024 Social media is also really encouraging people to lose weight and that NOW is the perfect time to start a workout routine and I think it's a really bad and negative thing because you're making people feel bad if they don't do anything and making them question how their body is shaped. Don't get me wrong, working out is great for your mental health, but you can't force it onto people. (I forgot to add this. I'm a terribly slow typer ;)]]> 2020-05-08 10:37:59 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559489024 iris_vanpaemel https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559494518 Paulien, you've made a good point. People should work out because they like doing it, not because they think they need to do it. I personally experienced that problem and I think it's impossible to hold on to something that you do to make yourself look good to other people. I've learned that you have to do it for yourself.]]> 2020-05-08 10:41:18 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559494518 p_vankerschaver https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559495445 I agree with you, Nemo. There has been made so much progress regarding a vaccine or an explanation of how it got so bad and what we could do in the future, but you never hear about those things. It's always how many victims and how terrible the situation is being handled (whilst I have so much respect for Wilmes and I don't think anyone would want to be her atm)]]> 2020-05-08 10:41:58 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559495445 laura_delijser https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559503178 Paulien, I share your opinion about workout routines and stuff like that. I think you can never justify trying to encourage people to change their body. I have also seen a lot of these videos, and people trying to ''glow up'' because ''now is the time''. Promoting unhealthy body standards is never ok. I don't see how people are so concerned about other peoples weight. Not even about them being healthy, but literally their weight. ]]> 2020-05-08 10:47:22 UTC https://padlet.com/liesbethvanmaele/pwoyerfd623olxob/wish/559503178