Pros and Cons: Guidance Counselors Following Students 9-12 by Scott Rhymer https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a Made with magic en-us 2017-08-31 11:47:54 UTC 2017-09-18 19:16:26 UTC hello@padlet.com List Pros/Cons and inhibitors to moving forward in 18-19 on having Guidance Counselors follow students from one grade to the next: wrhymer https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/183908134 2017-08-31 11:48:54 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/183908134 Our School counselors are able to build a relationship with students by staying with them throughout high school. https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184705457 2017-09-05 12:20:15 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184705457 Pros- get to know students and parents well and able to build relationships dimperat https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184822590 2017-09-05 16:21:32 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184822590 Con - If there is a conflict in their personalities, they are stuck together for their entire school experience. https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184838568 Pro - They should be able to know each other very well.]]> 2017-09-05 16:54:50 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184838568 Growing Together... mford20 https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184851469 Pro - students and parents are able to build a relationship with someone and talk deeply about next steps

Con - if there is turn over within the position then the students have to start over with someone that is also starting fresh and they may be reluctant to build that relationship

Con - personality conflict may prevent relationship building

Pro - build capacity within a department (knowing how your job impacts someone else's job, know different aspect of school counselor roles and responsibilities)]]> 2017-09-05 17:22:19 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/184851469 pro: building relationships with students and families {rapport} ability to write more personalized college recommendation letters. https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185255722 Con: difficult to specialize in needs of all 4 grade levels.freshman needs are so different than say a senior]]> 2017-09-06 18:04:17 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185255722 https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185263401 A solid relationship is developed over time. Not only with the student but the parents as well. However, it is inevitable that parents will compare one counselor to another.]]> 2017-09-06 18:20:48 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185263401 We have had counselors follow students 9-12 for at least 6 years and it has proven effective and efficient. Duties that are specific to a grade level are shared between counselors and this has built a collaborative and team focused department. https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185279314 2017-09-06 18:53:42 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185279314 We have been doing it for 9 years and believe the pros vastly outweigh the cons. Would not want to go back. Only negative is occasionally when a parent doesn't like the counselor. However, we still will not change a counselor. Everyone has to learn to work together. csmayfield65 https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185475254 2017-09-07 13:00:44 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185475254 We have been following the procedure with counselors for at least 7 years now and it works great. Previously, we moved students to specific grade level counselors each school year. I encountered 2-3 major issues (graduation issues), because the counselor was not familiar with the academic issue(s) of the student(s). https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185497644 2017-09-07 13:40:24 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185497644 Pros - get to know students and establish relationships jmpeake https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185704039 Cons - not every counselor has the skills set for addressing the needs of seniors and/or freshmen -plus those in the middle. It is important to tap into the skills of the counselors so they can better meet the needs of ALL students and the school. If there is a conflict, the student could potentially be "stuck."]]> 2017-09-07 21:03:11 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185704039 The only 2 roadblocks for us switching to this would be the freshman counselor position being so crucial and the senior position. I believe the freshman position has been said to be ok so it would just be some difficulty getting the knowledge of the senior position to all of them. With so much money and attention paid to that it will be quite a challenge. As anyone whose had to hire a new senior counselor knows it is hard and to do that every year essentially would be a little scary. https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185823480 2017-09-08 11:59:35 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/185823480 We now have grade level counselors that move up each grade level (10 - 12) with that class, except for the Freshman Academy. I think the 9th grade counselor needs to have a certain type of personality and skill set (similar to a Freshman Academy administrator) to be successful. I think the 10th -12th rotation provides great opportunities: building relationships with students and families, professional development and building capacity in the department by learning different grade level tasks with support, and targeted work with one grade level at a time. jludley https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/186038228 2017-09-08 20:34:37 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/186038228 W https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/186086181 We made the switch this year and have seen immediate dividends. Counselors know their students and families and are able to offer immediate help and feedback to students. ]]> 2017-09-09 14:36:37 UTC https://padlet.com/wrhymer/pvry246zs49a/wish/186086181